Wow @ how sentient he is. 2:54 He stops himself mid-sentence, upon realizing he was speaking of Analyzing with his hand gesturing on the right side of his brain, and instead gestured on the left side. Are you kidding? THIS is the difference between someone who truly understands NLP, (obviously, it's Grinder,) and the rest of the masses who "teach" it. That is the level of understanding he's speaking of here. This level of detail in communication is at the core of what NLP was intended to teach.
Words are frozen histories, so it's tricky to figure out a way to explain discoveries in meaning-making, habits & thinking. I've run into the same issue writing on Alexander Technique.
NLP solutions were often answered by inventing unnecessary words & using words in new ways. I used to "translate" for an attendee of their old NLP workshops - he was brilliant at picking up new languages.
You may have to listen again to understand what is being said because of this gratuitous word-inventing.
a reall shame these guys split up they should get back together who knows what theyd think of next( dudes scrw money) the legacy you could leave in history is worth moere than any sum of money so pair up again
Fantastic extended quote! And...an amazing ability to speak in AD for a whole conversation. I've never had one student able to talk in labelling language for ten minutes. The guy is a genius!
Did Grinder study Rand at all. I see a huge influence in similarity just not in the semantics and discription within NLP with the senses or Modalties and integration and deletion through epistemology which I know Grinder studied. He was in college in his 60's so he must have heard of her? I have never heard Bandler or Grinder say anything about her.
We recommend Whispering in the Wind by Bostic St Clair and Grinder, Turtles All the Way Down by DeLozier and Grinder and our NLP Field Guide by Collingwood and Collingwood. We also have articles including an article on the new code of NLP at our the Inspiritive site.
Did Grinder study Rand. Rand had a verson of modeling and also of how to integrate and learning to integrate correct functions of thinking by studying epistemology in which she created Psyco-Epistemology which deals with integrating and deleting limiting beliefs and reasoning. Grinder was in college back in the 60's so he had to have known about her. Just wondering if you know if he studied her at all.
This is a very clear & useful video, and a good one to recommend to those who haven't yet done training in the New Code of NLP, & who don't yet understand the distinction between NLP modelling & NLP applications.
this guy i like this. This is complex but it's worth understnading (unlike chomsky, who has detrimental poltiical messages). Grinder's message will take a while to understand but it's wroth it. this guy's clear solid good.
Chomsky's work in Linguistic is separate to his political writings. And it's his work in Linguistics that is of relevance to building models of human behavior. I agree with your above comment, Grinder's message is worth attending to.
ddaaaayyyaammn. How advanced can you get? This is like 500-level Advanced Advanced NLP. How advanced can you get John Grinder (and bandlers) FOUNDERS Of NLP new ideas on new formations of subcategories of nlp oomfg!!
Wow @ how sentient he is. 2:54 He stops himself mid-sentence, upon realizing he was speaking of Analyzing with his hand gesturing on the right side of his brain, and instead gestured on the left side. Are you kidding? THIS is the difference between someone who truly understands NLP, (obviously, it's Grinder,) and the rest of the masses who "teach" it. That is the level of understanding he's speaking of here. This level of detail in communication is at the core of what NLP was intended to teach.
DavidVerityTV 3 months ago
Words are frozen histories, so it's tricky to figure out a way to explain discoveries in meaning-making, habits & thinking. I've run into the same issue writing on Alexander Technique.
NLP solutions were often answered by inventing unnecessary words & using words in new ways. I used to "translate" for an attendee of their old NLP workshops - he was brilliant at picking up new languages.
You may have to listen again to understand what is being said because of this gratuitous word-inventing.
learnpoise 5 months ago
He communicates almost as much with his hands then his words..
DELPHIIII 1 year ago
how do you unconsciously assimilate someone elses patterns?
doyle430 1 year ago
a reall shame these guys split up they should get back together who knows what theyd think of next( dudes scrw money) the legacy you could leave in history is worth moere than any sum of money so pair up again
haris000000 1 year ago
The creation of what choice?
PaidVideoReviews 1 year ago
John Grinder is arguably the greatest NLP master to learn from.
A rare combination of wisdom, skill and congruence. Very, very rare...
stevebauernlp 2 years ago
Fantastic extended quote! And...an amazing ability to speak in AD for a whole conversation. I've never had one student able to talk in labelling language for ten minutes. The guy is a genius!
terryelston 2 years ago 2
There is nobody with Grinder's depth of patterning with NLP in the NLP community.
InspiritiveNLP 2 years ago
Did Grinder study Rand at all. I see a huge influence in similarity just not in the semantics and discription within NLP with the senses or Modalties and integration and deletion through epistemology which I know Grinder studied. He was in college in his 60's so he must have heard of her? I have never heard Bandler or Grinder say anything about her.
Bigturns33 1 year ago
@InspiritiveNLP what about Richard Bandler?
olhilt 1 year ago
what books are best to learn moddelling and the new code pls?
granas4life 2 years ago
We recommend Whispering in the Wind by Bostic St Clair and Grinder, Turtles All the Way Down by DeLozier and Grinder and our NLP Field Guide by Collingwood and Collingwood. We also have articles including an article on the new code of NLP at our the Inspiritive site.
InspiritiveNLP 2 years ago
thx for your respond
granas4life 2 years ago
Did Grinder study Rand. Rand had a verson of modeling and also of how to integrate and learning to integrate correct functions of thinking by studying epistemology in which she created Psyco-Epistemology which deals with integrating and deleting limiting beliefs and reasoning. Grinder was in college back in the 60's so he had to have known about her. Just wondering if you know if he studied her at all.
Bigturns33 1 year ago
@InspiritiveNLP is there any cd versions of nlp?
bicepsca 1 year ago
As a student at UC Santa Cruz, I was one of those people in California subjected to John's struggle to interpret what Erickson was all about.
Good to see you again John!
Matt Dubuque
Crashof2008 2 years ago
This is a very clear & useful video, and a good one to recommend to those who haven't yet done training in the New Code of NLP, & who don't yet understand the distinction between NLP modelling & NLP applications.
professorsnapper 2 years ago
Crikey John, you bloody ripper, keep up the good work sport!
stevenlathamgolf 2 years ago
this guy i like this. This is complex but it's worth understnading (unlike chomsky, who has detrimental poltiical messages). Grinder's message will take a while to understand but it's wroth it. this guy's clear solid good.
johntkucz 2 years ago
Chomsky's work in Linguistic is separate to his political writings. And it's his work in Linguistics that is of relevance to building models of human behavior. I agree with your above comment, Grinder's message is worth attending to.
InspiritiveNLP 2 years ago
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noahjscales 2 years ago
ddaaaayyyaammn. How advanced can you get? This is like 500-level Advanced Advanced NLP. How advanced can you get John Grinder (and bandlers) FOUNDERS Of NLP new ideas on new formations of subcategories of nlp oomfg!!
johntkucz 2 years ago