Super Street Fighter IV: Developer Commentary - T. Hawk

[Failbot9000]

Thawk, can fuck up any asshole thinking they are good with ken.

[thefreshman07]

T. Hawk is not an Apache, he belongs to the fictional Thunderfoot tribe.

[kilkolio]

uhm no he's clearly considered a native american

u want a mexican fighter theres that lucha libre guy

[oOharoneOo]

I cant cancel the tomahawk into a condor dive on AE, is it normal ?

[ShaolinKungFu93]

@oOharoneOo It has to be EX

[oOharoneOo]

@ShaolinKungFu93

Yes i know that but i can only do that on hit. And not away from my oponent

[DrKowalsky]

If you are searching for indians who live in Mexico and dress still like THawk you may find something here: /watch?v=hulRQnCNn8k

Thats the kikapu tribe in Coahuila. And there are lot more: Kiliwas, Kumiais, Cucapahs, Paipais, Cochimis and even Apache indians. So THawk is perfectly a northern mexican indian.

[Rabble2]

secret to thawk for noobs, jump towards them and spin the stick while mashing x

[xPegasusSeiya]

@DaftPunkeisteam Being Mexican is usually means your from a Native and European descent, you can not be Mexican and still live in Mexico.

[xPegasusSeiya]

@DaftPunkeisteam If your ancestors are Aztec or any other tribe from South America your likely a native,

[SPS148669]

T hawk is mistaken as a mexican because in street fighter 2 he ran away to mexico when his Rez got invaded or something according to the story back then.

[xPegasusSeiya]

@SPS148669 Did you know Natives live in Mexico :O

[SPS148669]

@xPegasusSeiya

Yeah but tradition dress is different than than the Northern counterparts and they had pyramids instead of teepee's.

[xPegasusSeiya]

@SPS148669 From what I heard the Natives seen in T Hawk's stage from Street Fighter 2, There are Mayan People and T Hawk is based off of stereotype of Native American in most cases are Apache, his original name was Geronimo which happens to be an Apache.

[SPS148669]

In Canada T Hawke is called an Aboriginal.

[arcangel1724]

THE HAWK IS A SERIS O YAQUI NATIVE MEXICAN

[TacticalElusion]

OMFG who gives a shit about where he is from....... just play the game and have fun

[SonicTheHedgehogZone]

@TacticalElusion no u

[SonicTheHedgehogZone]

T.Hawk shouldn't really be from Mexico, what we know now Natives / First Nations people are all but gone from down south. The people there are now called Hispanic / Latino Americans which are not the same thing as a Native / First Nation. They have a blended culture with the Spanish, hence why people call Hispanics / Latino Americans Spanish but that is incorrect because Spanish people look very different from them. The only well know tribe known from Mexico is the Aztec's which are gone now.

[WOLFMAN305]

CONDOR DIVE!!!!!!lol. I love T.Hawk. I'll kick anyone ass with him. You'll hate me.

[animelover129]

hes my main :)

[RealRussianStandard]

@animelover129 he's gay

[TKOBird]

@animelover129 Mine too :)

[cruz111]

He is Mexican from Sonora

so shut up bitches!!!!!!!!!!

[Slugg44]

I love T. Hawk... SO MUCH!! haha

[trickster1257]

Shut up Forum.....hes obviously jewish >_>

[suicine94]

since when can you ex DP into condor dive without the ex DP connecting... wtf?

[TKOBird]

@suicine94 They took it out of the final build :(

You can tell this is an earlier game build, one because T.Hawk can do an EX DP into EX condor Dive without the ex DP connecting and two because his face icon above his life bar in this video is completely different to the one in the final game build.

[DCWario886]

T. Hawk is so underrated...

[Rocky374]

Does It Matter Whos Mexican And Whatever? In That Case I'm Going To Make T.Hawk From Cuba!!! LOL

[SuperSnifit]

He was in street fighter turbo so he is not a new character

[Itsallover57]

its weird hearing his voice coming from the left but see his hands to the right. either seth killian is a master at throwing his voice or someone messed up.

[echoong6165]

A Triple E score? lol you so crap

[lOwnTheGhettoWorld]

to add

T. Hawk was going to be call Geronimo which equals a spanish name but was changed due to not being "racist" since a famous Apache is named that

he was born in the sonora desert which is mexico which apache tribes roam those deserts so what does that tell you he's an Apache from Northern Mexico

[strudel89]

The mexicans hated the apache and comanche,if he was living there he would have been murdered by them,some natives from the us raided mexican farms and were an important target for the mexican goverement

[lOwnTheGhettoWorld]

actually is possible for T. Hawk to be mexican he looks rather apache

Apaches aren't only from arizona (Unites States) but their also from Northern Mexico how do I know I'm a Mexican Apache descendant myself with also Yaqui and Tarahumara native blood

[arcangel1724]

@lOwnTheGhettoWorld is the same family apache(usa) , yaquis (sonora mexico) tarahumara is of famlily uto-AZTECA.

[arcangel1724]

@arcangel1724 the ancestry of apaches, yaquis ,mohicanos, hopi ete is the AZTEC family uto o yuto- AZTEC is the same family

[nano69ify]

2:02 - 2:04 HOLY CRAP! that took alot of HP out of Juri. O_O;

That never happened when i played T. Hawk!?

[theqman24]

my 2nd fav character

[doomsdayman107]

I hate playing as him, but at least T. Hawk's trials are some of the easiest in the game.

[canislatrans325]

T.HACK is mexican, they quitaron half territory a mexico live apaches iam inglish bad . aguila white head live in baja california and sonora, apaches in arizona pass is part of mexico.

[TeamMiseducation]

Whats the diferrence anyway? if you look back at history Mexicans are just Spanish speaking Native Americans or mestizos. Because Spanish conquistadores took over. So if T-Hawk is Native American that happened to move to Mexico it would be incorrect. There are still tribes that live in Mexico.

[Ninjikayatsu]

He should be called Tejano Hawk.

[jelaninoel]

omg the damage on that ultra! O_O i know its probably as strong as zangief's but it looks like its so much stronger since its all done in 2 hits.

[Toomnyusernae]

I saw his regular special once from a match and it looked better than his ultra. I'll actually want to use and explore this character for once!

[kryptondragon1973]

Hawk's pet is a bald eagle and not an actual hawk.........i wonder......

[ThatMellon]

Damn, i hate T.Hawk, he was such a trat in HD Remix, now he's broken in SSFIV!!!

[starlettine]

All up in your face, /GRAB/ your face, and then slam you into the earth.

[xGreySkullx]

@krokadile yea but I think t.hawk is more of a native American Indian Indians from Mexico are more like aztecs

[xGreySkullx]

T.hawk is native American an Indian who fights out of Mexico

[Karnalsyn]

If you live in Canada, you know exactly what a Native American is. T.Hawk's design, attacks, appearance, etc all point to that of a Native American. He is NOT mexican by any means.

[Raykak]

indigenous mexicans are native americans too

[Karnalsyn]

@Raykak

You see alot of mexicans running around with feathers in their hair? Or saying 'hao!' with their hand up? That is an "indian" thing, or Native American thing. Not many 'true Native americans running around the US. It's a Canadian thing.

[khantusions24]

@Karnalsyn texas was a mexican territory!!!

[Raykak]

@Karnalsyn yes actually you do. southwestern indian tribes behaved much like this. also no native american ever said 'hao', research it.

[KroKaDiLe]

@Karnalsyn

Native americans and indigenous mexicans are of the same people. T Hawk IS mexican.There are some people in mexico who dress like their ancestors and hold on to their traditonal past.

[dequann]

looks like an interesting character but i think it prefer zangief

[embimaru]

hmm dont forget the new grab character hakan,he looks cool xD lhis face looks like marios

[Cajunx2001]

t hawk probably does twice the damage that zangief does man. t hawk is zangief times 2

[dequann]

@Cajunx2001 really he is just a newbie friendly zangief right who do you main

[stefanaustin]

@Cajunx2001

i can agree with that, he is just the new zangief.

His command throw covers ridiculous range.

[drpope]

so you guys should just read the comics and mangas they are really interesting and Beelzeboogie is right and he is native american

[TimbocClock20]

Mabey not! lol hes mexican as he was from mexico!

[disembark]

this guy would be better off using the ps3 controller. Seems to be having too much trouble.

[098pissoffprick]

u really thought he was mexican? either thats a bad joke or u might be retarded

[cheesewheel]

He IS mexican....play Super Street Fighter 2 and listen to the announcer say "MEXICO" when you fly to MEXICO to fight T. Hawk, the Mexican indian

[Beelzeboogie]

His backstory says he only moved to Mexico when Bison forced his tribe off their homeland. He's from America originally.

[cheesewheel]

....Why is his skin colored then?

[Beelzeboogie]

........... What colour do you think native americans are?

[orochinagis]

lol what?

you know mexico is in America right? you mean United States

[Beelzeboogie]

Ah maybe it's a European thing, what else do you call someone from the US besides Americans? People born in Canada are Canadian, people born in Mexico are Mexican, and people born in Brazil are Brazilian, but for some reason people born in the US are American. It's just how the language works.

That what I was trying to say, that he's from the US.

I take your point though.

[orochinagis]

no prob, here the US residents are called north americans (or gringos in mexico lol)

T.Hawk birthplace is in mexico maybe Capcom thinks Texas and New Mexico are still mexican territory, his stage is in guadalajara, mexico

And they never mentioned where is his tribe territory before SF II

[gokudarkness5725]

@orochinagis but hes born in the desert of sonora

[Ninjikayatsu]

@Beelzeboogie but it never said his original homeland was America. It just said he was driven away from his "homeland".

[gokudarkness5725]

@Beelzeboogie not really,

hes born in the desert of sonora

[amerika10]

Native American? so hes not Mexican. u can hear the announcer say (here we have T. hawk the Native American). I new he was a fake ass Mexican. he looks like pochahuantus from DISNEY

[Mech347]

T Hawk looks a little overpowered.Hope he is not something like sagat in the original SF4.

[stefanaustin]

@Mech347

Oh no Buddy, hes not like sagat.

hes even worse and overly Brutal.

[iJayJerkz]

Wow, T.Hawk is Broken..

[kryptondragon1973]

His name in spanish should be, Halcon Trueno,does it sounds good?nope,now El Fuerte's name means The Strong One,and he's the true Mexican of the SF universe,in my book that is.

[Chris5553]

@kryptondragon1973 halcon trueno is thunder hawk

[kryptondragon1973]

Are you sure? i think i know that because i also speak spanish!

[Chris5553]

@kryptondragon1973 k lol....

[Musavi1]

@kryptondragon1973 t.hawk is an old fashion from the old mexico.. learn history faggot

[kryptondragon1973]

@Musavi1 Sure fag..... i'm a HISTORY TEACHER,and i have never heard what's an old fashion from mexico,plus i speak both spanish and english,anyway Hawk might have been born in mexico,but his roots are Native American customs,meaning he is a desendant from maybe Lakota,Cheyenne or any other N.american tribes,he's clarly non Aztek.

[ricc2154]

@kryptondragon1973 Never heard a grown teacher call someone a fag.

[kryptondragon1973]

@ricc2154

[kryptondragon1973]

@ricc2154 read my friend,who call me a fag 1st?and sadly some guys can't talk without insulting someone,guys like this Musavi are malking a difference.......ignorant kids.

[privategrab355]

@kryptondragon1973 man i have never heard of a teacher talk smack on youtube that takes guts u would like a guy named darksydephil his personality sounds just like youres

[robotecks001]

@Musavi1 no fighting watch my channel and see my hawk play

[arcangel1724]

@kryptondragon1973 T HAWK IS A NATIVE (SERIS AND YAQUI) MEXICAN IN NORTH OF MEXICO, T HAWK IS MEXICAN.

[kryptondragon1973]

@arcangel1724 Ok,but he really looks non mexican.

[arcangel1724]

@kryptondragon1973 wanted now seris in google he is a seri. native north of mexico= native south of usa.

[nextlevz]

theese developers cnt even play sf no wonder sf4 is shit

[Genesis2099]

developers aren't supposed to know how to play.. Thats the gamers job.

[nextlevz]

that is the dumbest fing iv ever heard so they dumbed down the input on moves so the silly developers have more of a chance 2pull off the moves lmao corse they supposed 2kno they a disgrace hand over that game 2me now u weak ass developers

[Genesis2099]

Their job is to develope the game, why should they care about not being able to pull off a super. They don't get paid for super exucutions. They get paid for creating the commands for inputing that super.

[nextlevz]

this game is a load of hype its jus gna b sf4 jus wiv new modes its gna play the same as 4 wiv new characters capcom u let down

[Genesis2099]

yes, I agree. They should of called it an expantion pack, or thay should at least sell it half price...

[kryptondragon1973]

it will be half price.....

[BlitzTiger]

The game IS being sold at half price... It's been all over the net.

[CanadaRedBear]

@nextlevz Exactly what did you want? This is about as good as it gets without completely starting from scratch and making an entirely new engine, and even then that would probably end up having less characters due to having to redo every character

[nextlevz]

ye i kno ur right its jus cmon man so many characters are wrong in this game its slow the jumping is the most broken fing in the game im still gna buy it but i jus fink they havnt made a great streetfighter game since original super turbo an alphas is it really that hard to make a great streetfighter game wivout keeping it 2d?

[saltruj]

i thought T. hawk was mexican not native american.

[kryptondragon1973]

Of course he's not mexican,he was EXILED to mexico by Bison.

[saltruj]

Good to know.

[kkingcombo12345]

well mexicans r decendents from natives arn't they?

[saltruj]

kinda and not realy, Mexicans are decendants of aztecs and mayans.

Northern Native Americans not so much

[kryptondragon1973]

Hawk is the most weird mexican ever! never seen a mexican wearing war paint and talking about totems! he doesn't say a word in spanish.now El Fuerte is the real mexican in the SF Universe,and no i'm not mexican by the way......picture in your mind how an ancient Aztec looks..nothing like Hawk eh?

[fataldesain]

lol, so true

[saltruj]

El Fuerte is SF version of speedy gonzales.

[kryptondragon1973]

You are right!

[GodzzzSon]

maybe because T hawk is supposed to be native american not mexican u idiot..

[Lestat220289]

T.Hawk is listed in every official source as Mexican, yet looks native american for some reason. Back in his first appearance in SF II, his stage was a mexican town.

[kryptondragon1973]

that's because he was supposed to be a native american in the 1st place,why Capcom change that? i have no clue.

[GodzzzSon]

suck on my balls ... thank you

[kryptondragon1973]

Loser.

[kryptondragon1973]

Ok fruitcake,i never said that Hawk was mexican,learn to read 1st ,my comment was pure sarcasm......idiot.

[LegendOfNikkonolasco]

You mean he's Mexican?

Because he's not Native American. He's Mexican. Find proof that he's Native American.

[PheNOMofHDC]

last time I checked Mexico is a part of America, North America thats. Native American aren't restricted to just the US. There are tribes in Canada and Mexico.

[LegendOfNikkonolasco]

Damn you and your geographic logic!

But the common, stereotypical belief of Native Americans is restricted to the continental United States, I think.

[kryptondragon1973]

Not really,remember that Texas and California used to be part of Mexico.maybe Hawk is a decendant from that time's tribes,or maybe is just a mistake from my part.

[AllegroRubato]

As far as i knew, he was from a tribe that was forced out of New Mexico into just regular Mexico, thus losing an important part of their land.

So he lives in Mexico, but fights to get back the lost lands his tribe had in whats now part of New Mexico.

I may be wrong though.

[TheSkratchy]

@PheNOMofHDC True but its easy to rule out mexico because of what he is wearing. He is fully clothed in deer skins, something the natives fom mexico did not wear.

[KryptonianBaby]

@TheSkratchy This is the only comment that holds any water and nobody is addressing it. It's true, his native american attire doesn't resemble that of any of the tribes in mexico

[lOwnTheGhettoWorld]

@TheSkratchy deer skin is used by the yaqui tribes who are in sonora, mexico and united states (arizona) I'm a Yaqui, Tarahumara, Apache native descendant take my word for it we're know to do la danza de la cabra in other words worship the deer in a dance ritual

[MrLinder]

@PheNOMofHDC ...........ok............

[inchesandages]

@PheNOMofHDC I'm from Canada, and we don't call natives "Native Americans"

[kryptondragon1973]

Hawk doesn't speak spanish,also why in SSF,he talks about totems,war cry and wears traditional feathers and war paint?all indicating he's native american.or maybe he was exiled to Mexico by Bison.i'll take the exodus theory,thanks.

[doowtsaeneb]

@ stergenakis

Lol. No i posted in an earlier comment, I use zangief.

[UltimatePotato]

So T hawk is the new Zangief really. Only different

[TheMrHandMan]

I wish they would put Charlie from Street fighter Alpha 2

[ChristianGonzo97]

They HAVE o put Alex form street fighter 3 in here. He's my all time favorite StreetFighter character :P

[claxtizle]

damn he hit hard

[boothesquirrel]

shouldnt you get people who are good so they can do the moves

[doowtsaeneb]

I play zangief and still will in ssf4. Psn tag is doowtsae, fight me I would like to know if I good or bad. I in g1-c. Zangief will kill this t-hawk loser. They can't seriously be thinking of weakening zangief when t-hawk looks as powerful if not more powerful. WTF.

[claxtizle]

geif kinda overpowered (vs certain characters) lol

[kryptondragon1973]

Yes,the other day i played aganst a guy who never stop spamming the spining lariat,i was playing with Fei,it was very hard to penetrate the lariat with Fei.

[sasukegir66]

@doowtsaeneb i dont think this guy made him sound better than zangief i mean no matter wat u u say zangief is a big threat to other fighters

[stergenakis]

@doowtsaeneb We have played against each other,if I remember well you use Bison a lot,don't you?

[JigglyNorris]

Gief lost to Hawk match-up wise in SF2. It'll stay the same in 4.

[malgab]

Lol@ Juri's health bar... please Capcom,...

[C4RL0Z479]

Ok so T. hawk is supposed to be mexican but he looks like a native-american and hes got an attack called the "condor spire" but the condor is supposed to be a bird from peru even htough it lives in other parts.

My point is theres nothing mexican in the character haha, im gonna buy the game anyways.

[kryptondragon1973]

Nope he's clearly not mexican,he was exiled to mexico from his native land by Bison,he was going to be called Geronimo in SSF2,but the name got dropped because a Capcom staff member said it was ofensive to native americans.

[GUEROMEXICANO831]

T Hawk doesn't dress like a Mexican Indian!! What gives??

[252Dazz252]

All the noobs will be changing over from Gief to THawk then *rolleyes*

[solidergamer]

i wish he was already on sf4 but the wait is going to be worth it

[meusapi]

Gotta love that eagle pet. :)

[StraightSnake]

deadly if he gets close... dee jay can zone him its balanced man

[DeusMortem]

WTF! Proudly saying that T. Hawk "definitely is the most deadly" out of the new characters doesn't really bode well for balance. :-S

Hopefully he's just referring to pure damage output.

[kryptondragon1973]

T.Hawk is dangerous when close,that's all,overall Balrog(boxer) is the strongest one in the game.

[magicishaq]

i love street fighter as much, asthe next dude.. but t.hawk is soo gay.. he looks like one of the village ppl.. seriously.. who the hell plays as him,.. this guy is gonna get spammed with fireballs online. not even a noob would play as him

[kryptondragon1973]

Try me,use your shotos and try to spam fireballs at me.i'm a Fei player and any non fireball character is ok in my book.i like Hawk a lot.

[magicishaq]

u must be good then.. all im saying is any new players to the street fighter seriesis gonna have a tuff time playing with t.wank. he is the gayest character in the game.. and bro u cannot lie about this

[kryptondragon1973]

Not me,Hawk plays a bit like Zangief with Dragon punch like move,hawk takes a LOT of life from an opponent if he's close, that is fact,but if you have a 360 my name is kryptondragon73 fight me and you tell me later how good or bad am I.oh yeah i like Adon too.

[videogamerockmusic]

When will this come out?

[TheDoom13]

i donno y they have this guy in here, he is like one of the worst character of all. They should put some body else in, also please put some of the characters in the SF3rd Strike in this game. Plus, please put more than 1 special combos in every characters.

[magicishaq]

@TheDoom13 duude i knw. .. knwing capcom.. there probrly gonna release all tis pro shit for...

"SUPER HYPER STEET FIGHTER 4.. the third champion strike edition + ALPHA" lol

[GoldoBeard]

Condor Spire should go through fireballs or that move will be useless

[sonicBlue00]

What I would also like to see in Super is easier timing on the button link combos which would stop people from just mashing out jab dragons and breaking through your combos all the time.

Some of the timings in sf4 are silly, like crouching strong into crouching jab, it's like 1 frame timing to link it, and for what, an extra jab's worth of damage? this is pointless imo.

[DannyCybar]

1:59 Imagine using that on a low health character? :O

Peace