Famous Chess Game: Edward Lasker vs George Alan Thomas

[giffyhunter]

at 6:19 if bishop moved to e4 as opposed to e2 wouldnt that be mate?

[h4x7]

@giffyhunter no because of the bishop at b7

[WallSpace]

hey your voice sounds similar to the guide at the box factory in the simpsons

[MetalSwitch95]

After Nxf6+ can't black just move ...Kh8?

[foxyjohnuk]

@MetalSwitch95 he answers that question in the video.

[ANSIcode]

My last try to get an answer to my question: WHERE DID YOU READ THAT TERM=SOURCE

[mjamesification]

very brilliant queen sacrifice ....

[ANSIcode]

Why are you saying "discovered" double check? There is no other way to produce a double check, they're all discovered.

[ChessNetwork]

@ANSIcode Thanks! :)

[itsMinuteMaid]

@ANSIcode Wrong. A 'discovered double check' is an instance in which one or both players is initially unaware of the second checking piece. For example, I move my rook to where I open up a Bishop check and also a check from my Rook. My opponent seeing only the Rook check attempts to move a piece in front of his King to block check, then either I or a referee must aware him of the other check. Basically, when one or both players is not initially aware of the double check, it's a "discovered" one.

[ANSIcode]

@itsMinuteMaid And you cant possibly expect a grandmaster would miss a double check. Such lack of awareness should result in many losses. So even if the term "discovered double check" does not exactly mean the same (can you provide a source for that? Im still not convinced one would need a term for something which hardly ever happens), the term was used incorrectly in the video.

[itsMinuteMaid]

@ANSIcode With all due respect, you seem to haven't the slightest familiarity with the game of chess. Or, the human psyche for that matter. As to the latter, people make mistakes. All people. Our minds do so many calculations and sometimes we go over and miss even the simplest of ones. Anyhow, you are seemingly absolutely unaware of the Deep Fritz vs. Vladimir Kramnik match (Kramnik a World Chess Champion), whom missed a simple mate in one. It was even described as the "blunder of the century".

[ANSIcode]

@itsMinuteMaid I probably should just leave this pointless conversation here after that. Because such a thing happens "once in a century" (I dont mean it litteraly, hope you get the point) is why I wrote"EXPECT". Ive never had the expierience of someone telling me I braken the rules after missing a double check. Of course everyone makes mistakes, but I dont see the point of having a term for a missed double check. Where has this term been introduced? (=*continuing to ask for the source*)

[itsMinuteMaid]

@ANSIcode The term is used when annotating a game to give the reader (or viewer in this case), a more accurate description of that game. Basically, so they can get more of a feel of the actual game (and as is why exclamation and question marks are used). For example, there is no technical need for adding an exclamation mark after a good move is played, but it's like the annotator giving a 'hurrah' as a soccer fan would when their team has made a good play.

[foxyjohnuk]

@ANSIcode Clever clogs.

[dbriggs530]

watched this one a second time

[behnamasid]

King check mates king !!!

[ThebestPRO667]

6 days without a video! I'm going through withdrawals! XD

[bluedasher23]

yeah, I prefer the subtle and elegant Kd2 move... OOO seemed like it would take too much effort and be expected... Kd2 is a bit more unique in idea...

[artmelik]

This is sensational!

[dbriggs530]

What an interesting game

[blackbtty123]

I've seen a Morphy game that ended with O-O#. That was pretty cool.

[AericWinter]

I would love to have played a 0-0-0#

[08Mryuvraj]

superb game & commentary

[BORFILE]

Thanks Jerry !

[TheUniverseNow]

the black king walking behind enemy lines!

[xactxx]

There's also a quicker mate in the 14. h4+ line. After 14... Kf4 15. g3+ Kf3, White can simply play 16. O-O or 16. Kf1, as Black cannot prevent 17. Nh2# in the following move. So that would also be a mate in 7.

[xactxx]

There's actually a quicker mate: a mate in 7, which, in a sense, is even more spectacular.

The first three moves are the same: 11. Qxh7+ Kxh7 12. Nxf6+ Kh6 13. Neg4+ Kg5.

Now comes the first different move: 14. f4+. If 14... Kxf4, 15. g3+ Kf3 16. O-O# (so it's a mate in 6). But the King can go to h4 instead, so if 14... Kxh4, 15. g3+ Kh3 16. Bf1+ Bg2 17. Nf2#, and it's a mate in 7, rather than a mate in 8.

[bongsult]

thanks for the tutorial.......

[m1me1111]

Comments section is full of virgins

[SaintsMrio]

Hi everyone , its Jerry :)

[majorsromo]

Fantastic Jerry, as usual. Keep up the good work it's very much appreciated!

[freakkit]

Beautiful game

[mtgxerxes]

Like like like like like holy crap that was epic. I would have loved to write down 0-0-0# at the end of my card instead of moving the King, but after something like that, you can pretty much do anything in the world you feel like.

How does somebody see something like that, 8 moves in advance? "Hmm I think I'll swap my queen for this pawn and go from there" Crazy.

[numbcore]

seen it before, but still enjoyed to see it being covered by you

[pbezunartea]

Great game!

[Ditharu]

The king promoted to a queen, how gay of him.

[MrEmanuel1223]

i enjoy that game everytime i see it,makes you think of the deep thought that was required in that game....buen choice

[Nimzowitz]

fantastic

[FMafia206]

0 dislikes damn straight!

[bigfriki]

Isn't this considered Laskers' immortal?

[880330145789]

didint u post this game before... it looks so familiar

[gaasl]

Hi jerry,what is the chess program you use?

[dumpnchase]

That was amazing. Thanks for the video.

[vokuheila]

wanna try submitting this video to a porn site

[TheBe187]

awesome!

[hraesvelgML]

People, note that this is Edward Lasker, not Emmanuel : p

[kolibrizas]

amazing checkmate in 8. I would have done castle-queen-side tho :P

[ejadvg]

Amazing game! Just amazing. I wish chess player´s where paied like soccer player´s! Such an amazing game.

[AlanWattParrot]

stunning

[MajorBosco]

beautiful

[cHIEN87]

Unbelievable.

[Mudd0000]

Wow, Awesome!

[mraxeguy]

Castling into mate is the most awesome thing ever! Kd2 was ok, but how often do you see O-O-O#? Would've been great.

[OgreVI]

I love Lasker. You can do Lasker every day, as far as I'm concerned.

[7777Ralph]

The long castle at the end would have been the most incredible slam dunk, if this were basketball, that I have ever seen. The reason why is because it's clear from the queen sac right up front that he calculated each of those moves from the very beginning.

[AndyMH182]

awesome. If only he castled for the mate.

[dyslexichobo]

Great video Jerry. As always, thanks for uploading.

[vengadordelhell]

i loved that sacrifice

and mate in 8 !

omg !

[MrSuednym]

That was a sick mate.

[Piewalkermatt]

Perhaps the King mate (Kd2#) was a symbolic gesture, or more symbolic than castling queenside (a rare 0-0-0#). Perhaps one reason why Lasker opted to checkmate with the King move instead of castling was to say in effect "My king is more in control than your king and only has to move a single square, a sign of minimal effort, in order to prosecute the forced termination of this battle"...whereas castling for mate requires the King to move 2 squares away, perhaps a sign of weakness or retreat.

[MoPar7055]

@Piewalkermatt Yea but it would be more ironic if he mated by castling because usually castling is a protective or symbolic move, very rarely a move that delivers mate in one

[Piewalkermatt]

@MoPar7055 Yes, castling is protective, and he rejected the need for protection. He just didn't NEED to do it. Perhaps castling was too "flashy." We know there is a sublime beauty in the efficiency of chess. "I don't need protection from anything," he says. "Instead, I'll move my King one step toward the center." Symbolic because the Black King becomes deposed, his dominion torn from him at the very same moment the White King proudly steps victoriously into the gleam of total, undisputed power.

[fLowKnows]

@Piewalkermatt Or perhaps Lasker just didn't consider O-O-O in his original calculation which was technical enough. Kd2 is more intuitive than O-O-O.

[noxure]

@Piewalkermatt pfff... Chess-hipsters... :p

[DixieNormas07]

@Piewalkermatt ...you're thinking too hard into it

[GamlaSonn]

@Piewalkermatt D'no, I'd argue castling queen side to deliver checkmate could be interpreted by the opponent as arrogant as in: "Look at me I'm showing off". Moving the king is more subtle.

[Bigboi2036]

LMAO Thats So Funny To Me The Black King Was Just Bullied Into A Lost

[nicocola1]

I saw the mate in 8 :P

[Comosiem]

3:57 this guy is going to be lost... Poor Bishop <3 in spanish is known as "Alfil"

Hey dude, you have participated on a tournament or something?

[AMK2287]

Great video as always, Jerry. I have kind of a random chess question for you. In an interview, Fischer said that he doesn't like computer age, "new chess" because of its lack of creativity and reliance on theory. Do you think there's any truth to that statement? Do the new school grandmasters possess a different type of talent to make them so great at the game? And, in your opinion, how would a player like Fischer (or Lasker, for that matter) fair against Kasparov, Anand,Topalov, etc? Thanks!

[beko1016]

wow, im never able to see this far into a chess game, maybe cause im not a grand master :)

[nicocola1]

omg Jerry you're just awesome. <3

[Lhurgolf]

I like these unique games.

[xHippieHunter]

Incredible that he saw that far ahead. Was this a timed game Jerry? If so how much time was given to each player?

[Sonyshotable]

Viewer number 1, awwwww yea