And the sovereignty of the United States the special interests groups and lobbyists and stay in a foreign country that should have been made aware by the American taxpayer and voter in 2008 to begin with
Special Interest groups and lobbyists but other than that this Barrack Obama should not be in office should have said something immediately in 2007-2008 raised in a foreign country? Immigration issues? Perjury, embezzlement of taxpayer funds for personal use especially for those who didn't wanted a different candidate to begin with that's the special interest groups and the lobbyists unforunately should have been prevented and 2008 "administration" if you can call it that
They should be more focused on Obama's long track record in a foreign country how many years he was over there should have been disqualified immediately by the democratic party and not been allowed to run in the first place doubtful whether was born in the United States and basic perjury in office how embarassing Alexander Hamilton, Jefferson signer of the Declaration of Independence
What about Obama's long stay in a foreign country and foreign contacts? Shouldn't that have disqualified in 2008? Hamilton the Federalist not the original intent to say the least, Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Edison
Like I said before,President Obama is not a hypocrite.He's not out to make people live by rules he personally wouldn't live by.It's disappointing that some in his administration aren't like him&it seems they need to be pushed to do their job.
What this lady is saying about S.B.1070 is a TOTAL LIE but that's so typical of the media today, they're all full of S&%@, Viva Los 1070 Adios Illegal Aliens!
I love how Mexicans say" The Latins will take over" give us ALL a f-ing break we see how THEIR so called latin takeover has worked all so well down in South America, where it has been just a handful of the drug cartels who run everything & have BEATEN the latin people into submission,THOSE WHO KEEP SINGING THIS VERY OLD TUNE NEED TO THINK before they type or speak, Viva Los 1070 Adios!
Rounding up and deporting millions of illegal aliens would be very easy. And, it would happen rather quickly. Just put a bounty on them. Say, $100 per head.
I know many unemployed veterans who would gladly take on the job. Round up 10 every day, by noon, and collect $1000 for the day. No taxes. $1000 per day X 250 days per year (5 day work week) = $250,000 per year. 2500 aliens per bounty hunter per year X 5000 bounty hunters = 12,500,000 illegal aliens
OBAMA & the D.O.J. with 100% certainty will lose this case for the Supreme court has already decided this "case-law" decision on THREE IDENTICAL cases & have sided with the STATES EVERY SINGLE TIME, Viva Los 1070 Adios Illegals!
If President Obama would of allowed his great Aunt to be deported then he could look the other way.I applaud him for not being a hypocrite&suing arizona.
OBAMA & the D.O.J. with 100% certainty will lose this case for the Supreme court has already decided this "case-law" decision on THREE IDENTICAL cases & have sided with the STATES EVERY SINGLE TIME, Viva Los 1070 Adios Illegals!
What Jan Brewer has to do is get some smart attorneys to bust OBAMA butt up in court. He cant do one without doing the other. He cant tell one state u cant have a legislation to inquire into the status of the state citizens, but on the other hand let states be santuary states and NOT inquiry about legal status. One is just as detraminal as the other. Either u let states have some latitude in legistation to assist in the enforcement of immigration laws or u strike them all!!!!
Now if you want to get techincal about it, OBAMA'S law suit is discrimintary towards AZ because he has to strike down every piece of legislation on the state level regarding immigration. In California u cant inquiry about immigration status, but at the same time that puts a burden on california citizens, and has the potention to impact the quality of life for its citizen because the enforcement of our immigration laws are being impeded. He cant argue one without taking every state on.
Obama is clearly abusing his powers to act as dictator against the will of the majority. He is leading this nation to ruin. Just today the CBO has announced that his spending frenzy is unsustainable and that the HC bill will substantially raise cost well into the future. Even leaders in Europe are warning Obama that he is on an unsustainable course, yet he wrecklessly forges ahead at full steam, determined to have his way. He must be stopped!
How long have the U.S. border states been reporting the problems with illegals? 10 yrs?15? National Geographic has covered multiple times.Now it has escalated to the point the point AZ feels they need more laws to protect it's citizens.
Can Obama not take the time to visit these state,learn the history of the problem and what the current issues are and work on a solution? Isn't that his JOB?
...and all the elected democrats are begging the D.O.J. not to move forward with the lawsuit due to the backlash they will get in there upcoming election. Looks like Arizona will be a Red State in November if the lawsuit goes forward, GREAT!
Too bad. The Justice Department has decided to go after Arizona instead of going after illegal aliens coming across the border from Mexico into the United States through Mexico. Does this make sense to you? Makes NO sense to me. IMPEACH OBAMA
@1Makyo Now if we simply got all of them registered as citizens we would get a huge tax influx, and may bring the economy out of the gutter. On the other hand, it takes up jobs that the good 'working class fatties' could have taken. I am simply saying that the average American would not fcking dig a ditch. But a man from Mexico will, and it'd be even better for the economy if he brings in income tax as well.
So you think these underpaid illegals , if made whole somehow, would provide a huge tax influx. I say they would mostly fall into the category of those who get all their tax dollars back from the feds and get a little bonus on top of that too. You are an expert on fatty average Americans I see. I can see why you refer to yourself as flying spaghetti. Try a rolling doughnut.
@TAMARLANE No, the FSM is god, my kind sir. They would if taxed properly, and have the same job security as we do. Hell, it may cause some things to actually be done in America.
I have nothing agains Mexican people. I like the one's I know. We have an economic problem now and they are adding to the problem. Not any help at all.
We have been closing hospitals in California for some time because the illegals don't pay for services there. These are criminals pure and simple. People who don't respect our laws and enter illegally are criminal by definition.
@TAMARLANE If they do not pay then they are against the law. That is a generalization. It doesn't necessarily mean all of them wouldn't pay the hospital bill. Perhaps if given the chance, they would pay the bill. People in poverty tend to not be able to pay for the things you are not. Also, our economy would actually collapse if we got rid of them all instantly. There are not enough younger workers.
@TAMARLANE Like I said, no people to fill the position. Right now there is basically the cheaper labor that kids would offer, except it is in the form of illegal immigrants.
Lots of jobs performed by illegals were previously performed by American citizens. Restaurant workers were traditionally American students. Construction jobs done by most every class of American at one time or another. Landscaping jobs traditionally done by American citizens. Hotel and hospitality jobs done by Americans. True enough, Americans actually made more money doing these jobs, but, aw, never mind.
@TAMARLANE At one time. As you may see, we are moving over to a nearly complete service economy. It requires higher education and such, which is very good, at least in my opinion.
There is no reason for Arizona to continue to allow illegal aliens to cross the border into America on her borders. There is no law in the US or in Arizona to prevent American citizens from patrolling the border with Arizona. Armed American citizens can patrol the border with Mexico legally. All we need is volunteers to patrol the Arizona border with Mexico. I will volunteer to take a few shifts every month.
@FlyingSpahghettiMan How many instances do you know of where an American citizen has shot anyone coming across the border from Mexico. If anyone attempting to shoot me while coming across the border into the US, I would certainly return fire.
Rounding up quickly. Just put a bounty on them. Say, $100 per head.
I know many unemployed veterans who would gladly take on the job. Round up 10 every day, by noon, and collect $1000 for the day. No taxes. $1000 per day X 250 days per year (5 day work week) = $250,000 per year. 2500 aliens per bounty hunter per year X 5000 bounty hunters = 12,500,000 illegal aliens and deporting millions of illegal aliens would be very easy. And, it would happen rather
@TAMARLANE Quick thing: Where is this money coming from? Also, if this is done en masse, some of the paper work is bound to be confused. What if who they deport is an actual American? What if they aren't able to come back due to poverty? They obviously wouldn't be able to just pack up and leave.
@TAMARLANE - You are foolish if you think you can solve this problem by patrolling the border. Humans are resourceful, they will find a way. Stop looking at the symptoms and address the cause. There will always be Mexicans. But we as Americans can end this madness by cracking down on the illegal hiring and domestic drug use.
@matreyia Closing the border is just one aspect of the solution. Fining and jailing employers is one part of it. 5000 bounty hunters can find and deport 12,500,000 illegal aliens in a year. Drying up the demand for drugs is not easy like the other three things already mentioned.
@GreatSatan1 - I will let you have on million bounty hunters. You can find all of them in a year, then you will have to keep doing it every single day for the existence of this country. You are trying to stop ants from invading your picnic by squashing each individual ant and are not addressing the queen. If Mexico had a less corrupt gov. & super economy, some US folks might move there to live at nice places it has. But Mexico sucks in these aspects so that is another factor 4 immigration.
@matreyia If we want to have a sovereign country, governed by laws, we must secure the border with Mexico. We must find, arrest, jail, and fine all employers dealing in illegal immigrants. We must find the interlopers and deport them. We must prevent them from entering our country again by securing the border.
If you disagree, then you are not an American, and , you are wrong.
@TAMARLANE - What part of "not supporting illegal immigration" did you not understand?
And, what part of "being able to see both sides of the situation" did you not understand.
Spare me the ignorant black or white patriotism bullshit. You can take that kind of ignorance and shove it up your ass.
Your idea of patriotism is shallow and one sided. It is like people who think that only soldiers are patriotic. People who think that folks who don't like war are unpatriotic. A pathetic mindset.
@matreyia You don't seem to know what sovereign means. I will go and get the definition for you this once. I know it is hopeless, trying to educate you, but out of the generosity of my heart, I will give it a stab (also I'm bored out of my gourd today, otherwise I wouldn't spend any time of this at all)
@matreyia I think soldiers are patriotic. I think their parents, brothers, sisters, cousins, friends and neighbors are also patriotic. That covers just about all 300+million people in America.
You are so correct. The patrolling would be totally legal.
Now if an illegal alien were to come across while you were patrolling they could just walk right past you, because should you try to detain them in anyway you would have broken the law.
As it is not legal for just any American to detain any foreign national, that is reserved for ICE.
@DocRocz I have actually patrolled a little on property owned by a friend near Yuma. We stopped a few interlopers, contacted the local sheriff , who arrested 3 and turned them over to ICE ultimately. Nothing wrong with that.
@TAMARLANE Well lets hope you do better than the Arizona rancher who detained illegals.
Federal Jury Finds AZ Rancher Roger Barnett Did not Violate Illegal Immigrants’ Rights … However, Did Find Liable on Claims of Assault $77,804 in Damages.
@YellowYoshiEgg oh, so arizona isn't bankrupt huh? it has all the money in the world to be involved in a federal law suit! in addition are you saying because the feds are in financial straights, all law suits will be dropped or not undertaken? where the hell are you from.
the law suits will go thru whether you think so or not. why do you think in 20 yrs the fed will be meaningless, and if true do you recall it was "christian"republicans who caused this? get your act and facts straight idiot!
@wntoply6Hey Win. You lose, as usual. You just can't resist can you? Resist putting in something about Christians. hhahahaha. Bigots. Homophobes. Racists.
You are a classic example of compulsive/obsessive behavior.
@NotEasilyRegimented i never talk about christians noteasilyregimented, much to your stupidity. i do talk about "christians" however. now go back to 3rd grade english and learn how to read, and what punctuation means, and how it effects written english. you're typical of the type person i talk about, ignorant, and like those "christians" bigoted.
you think you got the brains to comprehend now idiot?
@wntoply6 It's a bird, it's a plane, it's anti-"christian" man. anti-bigot man, anti-homophobe man, anti-racist man.Able to jump over tall tales spun by liberals, but unwilling to do so, it is WINTOPLYMAN
@1Makyo yup, i certainly are anti "christian" you should be too, but seems you're just too ignorant, intolerant or hateful too...attributes of "christians". and i repeat for your education, i never mention Christians. i only damn "christians" get it buddy?
you're statements are just plain stupid, as are most coming from "christian"conservatives...who are afraid of their own shadow.
@NotEasilyRegimented no you lose. i never mention Christians. i do however mention "christians". learn to read and quote correctly before you make a post here moteasilyregimented. and i stand by my statements, "christians" are not Christian. they are as evil, bigoted and intolerant as they claim muslims are. think about it before you further post. you don't want to make a fool out of yourself again...now do you...that is unless you're a fucking "christian"!
The federal government of the United States is the central government entity established by the United States Constitution, are the executive, judicial, and legislative branches. US Federal Immigration Policy already exists in the US Codes. The state of Arizona, under US Constitution Article 4 Section 4, has enacted a law to fulfill its duty to "protect every state in the union."
How extremist of Arizona to do as the US Constitution requires. I am proud of Arizona.
@borderraven Obama is showing his ass on this issue. On most issues. He is an ideologue who needs to be impeached. We must impeach Obama now. For Treason. For bribery. For high crimes and misdemeanors. For misfeasance. for malfeasance.
Oh hell, that pesky Constitution is in the way again............................ This nation IS doomed. Buy guns, ammo, and shovels. You'll be needing them soon.
Ok, now is their anybody out there that still supports this terrorists? Clearly he hates America. Eric Holder dismissed the voter intimidation case against the Black Panthers but will sue on of our Governors for upholding the United States Constitution? WTF? This is yet another treasonous act and yet again shows where Obama's loyalties lie, to terrorists and criminals.
This should be taken to the USSC as soon as possible, but it won't. Meantime, neither the administration nor the DOJ is going to go near this because it's so toxic. They've already postponed Obama's amnesty legislation indefinitely. I think Hillary's blowing smoke to appease the illegals' unfounded fears and the left's temper tantrums over the AZ law.
Civil War is on it's way, which i think is the only way for Americans to stop illegal immigration, defeat Obama, who is an immigrant himself and literally Hi-Jacked the White House. Our government has it's own agenda and the world calls it "USA" but it's not USA, it's Obama and his gangsters now.
Civil war and Confederacy is what we the American people need. we don't all need to live together like a melting pot with no culture... we should be allowed our own states within the continent like EU.
@dp535i - civil war! confederacy! hi jacking! defeat the President of the usa! separation! illegal aliens! don't let those Mexican babies be citizens because they are Mexicans! - they will form dangerous Mexican baby gangs!!! oh shit! You sound like a fucking extremist Muslim. Get a grip. The problem is the people who continue to hire illegal aliens for cheap. First they hire them and pay them peanuts, then you blast them for coming to work...so they get shitted on twice.
@matreyia Your ignorance is overwhelming. MS13 is huge in California and growing. We have a ton of problems from these illegals in our prison system. In fact the two worst gangs to deal with are the Norteños and Sureños. So these mexican babies HAVE formed gangs and are committing crimes and filling our prisons. They are costing tax payers billions a year and need to be sent back to mexico. Mexico does the same thing to central american illegals.
@irshchuculain - these are not Mexican babies. they are young adults. If they were born here, it isn't because they r Mexican that they are in gangs - so here ur ignorant. They are involved in criminal activities because of a lack of opportunity & racist policies and attitudes which Americans automatically apply to them for being Mexican. Such attitudes result in fear & rejection of their positive potential. Or does it suit ur mind that there have been no such thing as a positive Mexican figure?
@pwhited are you serious? so you think mowing lawns and waiting tables count as opportunities? How about being a housemaid? or Janitor? give me a break. we have Americans sitting in plush office chairs, participating in Wall Street matters, occupying distinguished positions in myriad organizations...did you think that a Latino could do such things? I do, if anyone gave them half a chance to go to school instead of instantly rejecting them as liabilities.
@matreyia Apparently the illegals consider those jobs opportunities, whether you do or not. They make more here waiting tables than they would in Mexico doing the same thing, yes?? If these illegals have it SOOOO bad here, WHY DO THEY STAY? Sure, Latinos can become corporate bigwigs. We have to GIVE the education to them, right?? Like, FREE? Get a grip...
@pwhited - don't give a person fair chances of being able to do anything constructive in life, then complain that they are fucking up...yeah, that's really sensible. People like GOP minded folks who whine about immigrants yet reject attempts to invest in education are the only ones shooting themselves in the foot. Keep all that money so that you can buy guns to shoot uneducated people running amok committing crimes.
@matreyia They commit these crimes of their own free will. They made the decision to violate law and they are responsible. If they come over the fence illegally they need to be sent back. They broke the law and will face the consequences. If they are here legally they have plenty of opportunities but if illegal go home.
@irshchuculain - are you implying that I want illegal aliens who violate our laws to stay free of any demands? Is this ur normal mode of thinking? To jump to conclusions about any little disagreement u have? Sure, illegals should be subject to proper laws and procedures and sent back, but such laws & procedures should not ever put any citizen in danger of getting their civil rights violated. This is the issue friend. Not that anyone wants free reign for illegals. That is absurd.
@matreyia I absolutely agree that civil rights should not be violated. Perhaps we were misunderstanding each other. If you are referring to random stops then yes it definitely goes too far. However the federal government under the obama administration has done almost nothing to stop the influx of illegal immigrants. So I can understand the State side of the issue although I think it is wrong.
@irshchuculain - so it seems that you quote MS13, one of the most violent gangs on earth as a reason to treat Mexicans like 2nd class humans. As though there is nothing good that could come of Mexicans or of their culture. It would be like fearing white people because only whites are members of KKK or Nazis. You are a slave to fear and ignorance and you might want to try to use objective logic to its fullest before allying urself with emotional logic. Emotions are unreliable.
@matreyia Most of the illegal Mexican inmates I deal with are gang members and part of Norteños or Sureños. However if they are illegal then there is no additional crime they have to commit to be deported. If they come illegally a crime has taken place and the proper response is deportation. This is not emotional but logical. You on the other hand seem to be quite emotional in your responses.
@irshchuculain - very good friend, you deal with INMATES, that is much different than a Latino-American walking on the street minding his own business. So do us all a favor and deport these inmates back to Mexico, but make to mistake, never support a law which puts legit Latino-Americans in danger of discrimination. You brought your work home with you. Would you break into your neighbor's house to demand papers if they were Latino-Americans?
@irshchuculain - again, Mexican gangs and cartels do not form in a vacuum. They form from the market for drugs in America and the world. So please get a grip and stop implying that Mexicans grow up to be in cartels automatically. There are good Americans who do not do drugs, and stupid Americans that love drugs and have no care for the consequences of their actions in the big picture. Drug users, businesses who continue to provide incentive for illegal immigration are more at fault.
@matreyia I am not implying that mexicans grow up into cartels. I am stating that illegal immigrants need to be deported. All 20,000,000 sent home to mexico. I am not denying that a market for drugs and cheap labor is a draw factor. However that does not justify these illegals breaking the law.
@irshchuculain "However that does not justify these illegals breaking the law. " What difference does it make whether someone is illegal or not if he is breaking the law? Come on. Look at your focus. You put "illegals" in front of breaking the law when clearly it should be the reverse. First, address the breaking of laws, then if they are illegal, deport them. But please, this absurd McCarthyism against Latino-Americans is uncalled for.
@matreyia Mexican gangs and cartels do not form in a vacuum? How do they form. Where do they form? Are you suggesting that if there were no drug users in America then the gangs and cartels would not exist. They would just disappear? hahahahaha
Get a grip. It would be absurd to base the creation of gangs on drugs alone. You'd be a fool to overlook turf wars etc. But it all boils down to life opportunities and options. You think a sane person wants to join an organization that kills you for leaving? If there isn't any option left, nothing to live for, the society around you rejects you just for being mexican...what where would you go? any place that will take you.
@matreyia - if they actually worked professionally, i might have a little pity for them. however, i've worked side by side with many of them & my apartment complex has even hired about 15 of them to do misc work on my apartment. when they set up to paint, they are scraping all the dried up wasted paint from the last work day that they should have cleaned up at the end of the day. they piss on the building, take 2 hr breaks, work slow, get paint on everything.
@dp535i - this is my point exactly. You should not even be working with illegal aliens. This is the crux of the problem. Why should they get shitted on when it's American companies who are cheap and hire them for cheap labor knowing that they are not qualified...then people like you turn around and complain about them not doing their "jobs" properly. If you went to a foreign country looking for ANY work to feed ur family, u might not know some kinds of trades also.
@dp535i As I said before, stop hiring illegal aliens and the problem will be reduced significantly. Hiring them for cheap shows no respect for them and no respect for your clients who buy the end product because the pay is subpar AND the product is subpar. Stop worshipping the bottom line and do the right thing even if it costs a little more. You get what you pay for.
@matreyia Well, the illegals are ACCEPTING those jobs "for cheap", are they not?? If they didn't want those jobs, they wouldn't accept them "for cheap".. They are making far more here working "for cheap" than they would be back home. There's a solution to their problem though, since they have it just SO bad here. GO HOME...
@pwhited - they would not accept the jobs nor would they be here if it were not for Americans who took the jobs for decent pay rates. It is because of greed that Americans hire illegals and pay them peanuts. You want to solve it? Pay decent wages for crappy jobs so that Americans will even consider taking them. The Mexicans are victims of poverty and greed.
@pwhited - Furthermore, you would piss off lots of small business owners with your "go home" crap since they depend on cheap labor to eek out their profits. Since Americans are protected by wage requirements, the businesses must exploit the illegal immigrants who must stay quiet to avoid being sent back & with no chance to earn money to feed their families. Firstly, US folks would balk at such low wage offers, secondly US folks r protected by wage laws so it's illegal to offer such low wages.
@matreyia I see.. It's the companies who hire illegals who are doing something illegal, NOT the illegals who enter the country illegally. If things are so bad for them here, why are they not leaving? And why are more coming in illegally everyday? I mean, if it just svcks so bad for them, why aren't the letting their countrymen know that its just not worth coming here at all? Even at low wages these illegals make far more here than they would in their own country. They are here ILLEGALLY.
@pwhited - no you don't see. you are not understanding that nobody is defending illegal immigration. BECAUSE IT'S ILLEGAL. Were there anyone who supported ILLEGAL immigration, they would also be classified as criminals.
So drop the one sided argument. "Why are they not leaving if it's so bad? blah blah" BECAUSE WE are breaking the law right along with them by hiring them ILLEGALLY. You'd better get your head out of the sand & accept some responsibility for the US or u won't ever figure it out.
@matreyia No.. YOU don't see.. If the illegals hadn't come here illegally to begin with, no one would be hiring them at all! I accept NO responsibility in this, because I am a citizen who works for a living, does not own a company, and do not hire illegals. It should be dealt with by our government, by keeping people from crossing illegally. There are those who support illegal immigration, La Raza, AND the Mexican government do, as do others.
@pwhited - Man you really don't know how to think fairly do you? You realize that the very first original illegal immigrants to this country was Columbus, then eventual white folk from Britain. Now these first "Pilgrims" came for religious freedom, then the rest came en-masse with a particular mind set: subjugation of the land & natives.
Think about that before saying something retarded like "if they hadn't come here illegally to begin with..."
@matreyia What's retarded about it? They commit a crime when they come here illegally. I have NO pity for them whatever, and never will. There was no "illegal immigration" to this land when the Pilgrims came here, since there were no laws covering that. It was an unhappy moment for the native Americans, to be sure, but it wasn't "illegal". However, now it IS illegal without proper documentation. Again, if they are SOO unhappy with their plight, THEY CAN LEAVE.
@pwhited - "There was no "illegal immigration" to this land when the Pilgrims came here, since there were no laws covering that."
That is the most idiotic statement I have ever read. So you are saying that it wasn't illegal for white folk to come here because the white folks did not create laws about illegal immigration yet. You single sided simpleton.
@matreyia That's EXACTLY what I'm saying, Braindead. Your reading comprehension skills need some polishing. If there are no laws making something illegal, it cannot be illegal. Therefore, europeans coming here to set up shop was totally legal. There were no laws stating that they could NOT come here were there? Please show me the laws that were on the books regarding immigration when Europeans first came to these shores. However, there ARE laws regarding illegal immigration now, moron.
@pwhited - You idiot. You don't even know that you just used circular logic to try to justify your argument. Saying that it was legal for Europeans to come to the U.S. because the Europeans did not make such laws yet ----means absolutely nothing. The Europeans still came and overpowered and conquered the original inhabitants. Just because Europeans did not make up laws yet, doesn't negate the fact that they were the foreign and alien elements to the natives. Get ur head out of the sand.
@matreyia So effing what? The strong always overpower the weak. It's the way the world works, braindead. It's been that way since DAY ONE. Get over yourself. Now that there ARE laws regarding illegal immigration, they should be enforced or done away with. The fact is, braindead, WE'RE FULL. We have no more room for freeloading assholes. Have a nice day!! Haha!!!
@pwhited - "So effing what? The strong always overpower the weak. It's the way the world works"
I was waiting for your stupidity and ignorance to show up and you didn't disappoint. You and all people like you are what makes the world a shitty place. Have a nice day you selfish greedy fuck.
@pwhited - "The fact is, braindead, WE'RE FULL..."
Well, then I guess you haven't seen those mountains, deserts, and prairies and most of all, you haven't been to Texas where I live. I was waiting for your true side to show up and you didn't disappoint. You and people like you give us a bad name. Have a nice day you greedy selfish ignorant fool.
@pwhited - Finally, if you were starving, you too would "ACCEPT" a shitty low paying job in terrible conditions. Why? Because you are starving and that might be the only job that was available or "OFFERED".
As I said before, nobody wants illegal immigrants, but folks gotta also see both sides and not just their own selfish fears or desires.
@matreyia Dear bleeding heart. I once scraped spaghetti sauce off a tile floor and ran it through a strainer to get the crud out of it before eating it. I know what hunger is. I've been poor like many others. There are several things I did NOT do, however. I did NOT cry about it, or complain to local government. I did NOT try to get things for free. I did NOT go to another country illegally and tell them that I wanted my drivers license test done in MY language.
@pwhited (continued) Nor did I go to another country and demand that my kids be schooled in their native tongue. I didn't demand free healthcare, or commit crimes to support myself. You are WRONG when you say that 'folks gotta see both sides". You might think that they should, but that doesn't make it so. If I went to Mexico illegally, I would get NO help from anyone, would be unable to work at all, and would be in prison soon enough. Screw the illegals, I really don't care at all.
@pwhited (continued) They came here of their own free will thinking that it would be SOOO great. Well, it appears that many of them were just wrong! Oh well.. Too bad, so sad. You pay your quarter and you takes your chances, as the man said so long ago. If it's so bad for them here, THEY CAN LEAVE. You really don't get it. THEY CAN GO HOME if they DON'T LIKE IT HERE. Pretty simple, really, if you THINK about it. Good luck with the thinking part..
@pwhited - "I did NOT cry about it... to local government."- They stay silent & fear deportation (you are wrong).
"I did NOT try to get things for free." - They stay silent for fear of deportation (you are wrong)
"I did NOT go to another country illegally and tell them that I wanted my drivers license test done in MY language." - They stay silent for fear of deportation (you are wrong)
These things are requested by legalized latinos, illegals since they have no rights of citizens.
@pwhited - All of your absurd claims about illegal aliens demanding this and that are also false. 100% of the time these people stay silent for fear of deportation. It is the legal latinos, churches and human rights organizations which ask for such things. Stop the bullshit. This is why you are so pissed off, you have a false view of the situation which flies in the face of logic and reality. Criminality, including abuse of the system is not exclusive to and single group. All are guilty.
You can all thank the Tea parties. The true voice of the American Middle is starting to emerge.
This will start a chain reaction that will address the issues of less crime, lower taxes, shorter waits in the emergency room, smaller classroom sizes for our children.
Those who are in favor of Illegal immigration, must also be for illegal murder, illegal drug smuggling, illegal rape
What part of Illegal don't these Mehicanos understand? The IL part or the Legal part? ILLEGAL=NOT LEGAL
@TheLibertariansUnite Last time I checked you don't need to be an illegal to commit those crimes. The tea parties are nothing but a bunch of rich brainwashed racist who are greedy self indulgent people.
Last time I checked illegal immigration, illegal rape, illegal murder, illegal robbery are all illegal. Why is it that you support illegal immigration and not illegal rape?
If illegal immigration infringes on somebody's liberty to migrate here, then illegal rape infringes on my right to get some from your mother whenever I feel like it.
The liberals are nothing but a bunch of rich brainwashed facists who are greedy and self indulgent people ;)
@Ambushcrysis, I'm not rich. I am not brainwashed. The point about illegals and crime, if if the illegal is not in the USA, our citizens won't be a victim of his crimes. Sure our citizens commit crimes, but if we remove those who should not be here (illegals) then we reduce crime.
@JASONNHENCHMENN Do you know that there are people on YouTube who will turn you in for making a direct threat to our President? Do you know that it can result in the Feds showing up at your door???? See Stephen Joseph Christopher,Theodore Carrington, Jr., Norman Leboon and others. Other nutjobs have been arrested for youtube postings threatening Elton John, Nancy Pelosi, Mayer Daley (Chicago), Hal Turner arrested for threatening 3 judges on his internet "talk show". Be careful, buster.
@172677 So, that still means that at least some of them entered illegally if they have no papers. This would infer, if I understand you correctly, not all undocumented would have necessarily entered illegally, but all "illegal immigrants" = "undocumented."
Therefore, we are still at least partially talking about those who acted illegally by entering our country illegally. Thus, my original presumption that it is strange that an illegal act would not be punished is justified.
So, the govt and their lawyer friends are going to shake down the states too. Just like the EPA is trying to shake down Texas right now. This is sickening. Arizonia ammended the current federal law which made it to where there would be no profiling.
@duvexy 1. correct spelling: Arizona (no second "i"), 2. no state can amend Federal Law..not even AZ, 3.AZ knows the law won't stand the smell test in the courts. The Governor and others are just looking to get re-elected by all this. This has been tried before....many times....and has been struck down. AZ government is shafting it's citizens...and pandering to them to stay in office...that's all.4.the "govt's" job is to uphold Fed Law..so of course they will remove AZ law..which is illegal.
@Bernankegreenspan Actually, the term "illegal immigration" refers to the act of entering a country, bypassing normal channels. The term for those here without papers or whose papers have expired are called "undocumented". The term "illegal aliens" is a perjorative one...meaning something else entirely and dehumanizing a specific group of people. If an undocumented immigrant commits a crime here, he's called a criminal...regardless of where he's from.
Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
@LawyerScumGhost Exactly!!!!That Right we have is called the ballot box.Every election, we have a chance to remove or elect those who govern us.That's what the phrase means.It doesn't mean a state or a person can take matters into their own hands,override the Consitution or ignore the law.We,the people,speak on each and every voting occasion.Those who pay attention to the candidates,what they've done,what issaid usually make good decisions.Those who don't usually get the government they deserve.
Hilary is part of the broken anti-American machine that will soon fail. AZ needs to stand on its Constitutional rights. Virginia is soon to follow!!!!!!
@762lenny I agree, AZ need to stand on the Constitution....which specifically prohibits what AZ is doing. You don't get to pick and choose which part of that document you like and what you don't like.....
@762lenny No, it doesn't. It puts the onus on local police to enforce Federal law...and, they have no authority to do that.
Interesting how many in law enforcement in that state say they aren't going to enforce it. They know it's a racist law and they will have no part of it.
Not to worry. It will be gone in another few months.
@172677 that is really sad - there is NO racism in the law. LOCAL POLICE ARE SWORN TO UPHOLD FEDERAL AND LOCAL LAW. You leftists throw around racism like it doesn't mean anything and in a few months thanks to you it will have no meaning.
@762lenny Police are sworn to uphold laws that are Constitutional and lawful...they are NOT required to act as the gestapo on the orders of some whack-job politician who doesn't like people of color. Pima country Sheriff Clarence Dupnik won't do it..and said so in April. Phoenix officer David Salgado, same thing..and others. My brother is retired Sheriff and he wouldn't do it...neither will his friends still on active duty.
@pwhited Do you live in a cave? You certainly know nothing about our Constitution nor Immigration Law. Are you aware that the DOJ has taken the state of AZ to court in Phoenix? Are you aware that it was LAST WEEK...and the Judge has the case and will make a decision? Or is it that you only believe what you hope is true. If DOJ doesn't get a positive decision, they will appeal...which is a good possiblity because of AZ Judges. It may go all the way to the Supremes who will overturn it.
@172677 Hi.. Yes.. I do live in a cave, and one that apparently has better communication facilities than where you live. (Cardboard box, perhaps?) Check the judges ruling, MOST of the AZ law is still intact.
How about we sue the government for not keeping the greasy little fuckers out of here in the first place??!! They make up a huge percentage of our prison populations, not to mention being a total drain on society's resources......why the HELL are they here?? And monkey boy wants to sue Arizona!? God I hope this bumble fuck gets impeached.
@MrNewerbeg Federal Prison population by race: 57.9 white, 38.6 black,33.1 hispanic. All prisons and jails 2008: 33.44 white,40.21 black,20.29 hispanic. Sorry to bust your bubble.The majority of prison population is good old home grown white American MEN. By the words in your post, I can tell what a racist pig you are. People like you are the dregs of and the drag on our society....
@172677 Oh how I love it when you little libtards throw that R word around. Your facts are for FEDERAL prison.....NOT STATE and especially not TEXAS STATE PRISONS......get your facts straight corn hole before you make yourself look like a bumble fuck.
@MrNewerbeg Can you read? The first set is for FEDERAL PRISONS (note where it says "Federal Prison population). The second is for ALL prisons and jails (note where it says "all prisons and jails"),,,not my statistics bub.....Bureau of Federal Prisons and Incarceration in the United States..... As for Texas...well, what can I say. As a 5th generation Texan on my Father's side, I can say quite truthfully that it has gone to hell in a handbasket since the lunatics took over.
@172677 Oh....and while I've got your little brain's attention.....I'd rather be a racist any day than an ILLEGAL.....don't know what the word "illegal" means? Look it up. And just one more little factoid for you brother......over 70% of the American population is on MY side. I'll never understand people like you.....are you an anarchist or do you have a little illegal Mexican grandma hiding in your basement? The world may never know. ;)
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justinolson345 2 months ago
Filibuster and cloture
rhersh2011 3 months ago
10th Amendment
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rhersh2011 3 months ago
And the sovereignty of the United States the special interests groups and lobbyists and stay in a foreign country that should have been made aware by the American taxpayer and voter in 2008 to begin with
rhersh2011 3 months ago
Special Interest groups and lobbyists but other than that this Barrack Obama should not be in office should have said something immediately in 2007-2008 raised in a foreign country? Immigration issues? Perjury, embezzlement of taxpayer funds for personal use especially for those who didn't wanted a different candidate to begin with that's the special interest groups and the lobbyists unforunately should have been prevented and 2008 "administration" if you can call it that
rhersh2011 3 months ago
They should be more focused on Obama's long track record in a foreign country how many years he was over there should have been disqualified immediately by the democratic party and not been allowed to run in the first place doubtful whether was born in the United States and basic perjury in office how embarassing Alexander Hamilton, Jefferson signer of the Declaration of Independence
rhersh2011 3 months ago
What about Obama's long stay in a foreign country and foreign contacts? Shouldn't that have disqualified in 2008? Hamilton the Federalist not the original intent to say the least, Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Edison
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X4SerioX4ese 1 year ago
09/02/10 update: Justice Department sues Arizona sheriff in immigration probe!
Well, simple logic would dictate the question as to why isn't Sheriff Joe cooperating?
Hmm, maybe just maybe he has more to tell then what he's been saying.
Wouldn't it be just the bomb if Sheriff Joe wound up in tent city!
DocRocz 1 year ago
id or GTFO :P
87Bassist 1 year ago
hear hear!
Runstink 1 year ago
Like I said before,President Obama is not a hypocrite.He's not out to make people live by rules he personally wouldn't live by.It's disappointing that some in his administration aren't like him&it seems they need to be pushed to do their job.
PHILLYCORRUPTCOPLEON 1 year ago
Washington sucks.Obama admin sucks.
TheDivsterman 1 year ago
What this lady is saying about S.B.1070 is a TOTAL LIE but that's so typical of the media today, they're all full of S&%@, Viva Los 1070 Adios Illegal Aliens!
bulabula1 1 year ago
I love how Mexicans say" The Latins will take over" give us ALL a f-ing break we see how THEIR so called latin takeover has worked all so well down in South America, where it has been just a handful of the drug cartels who run everything & have BEATEN the latin people into submission,THOSE WHO KEEP SINGING THIS VERY OLD TUNE NEED TO THINK before they type or speak, Viva Los 1070 Adios!
bulabula1 1 year ago
@bulabula1
This is a good thing, the mask is now off. Obama is using the DOJ to change the will of the people in favor of foreign invaders.
IMPEACH OBAMA
TheJomogogo 1 year ago
@TheJomogogo Yahooooooo, Viva Los 1070 Adios Illegal Aliens!
bulabula1 1 year ago
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Rounding up and deporting millions of illegal aliens would be very easy. And, it would happen rather quickly. Just put a bounty on them. Say, $100 per head.
I know many unemployed veterans who would gladly take on the job. Round up 10 every day, by noon, and collect $1000 for the day. No taxes. $1000 per day X 250 days per year (5 day work week) = $250,000 per year. 2500 aliens per bounty hunter per year X 5000 bounty hunters = 12,500,000 illegal aliens
TAMARLANE 1 year ago
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OBAMA & the D.O.J. with 100% certainty will lose this case for the Supreme court has already decided this "case-law" decision on THREE IDENTICAL cases & have sided with the STATES EVERY SINGLE TIME, Viva Los 1070 Adios Illegals!
bulabula1 1 year ago
If President Obama would of allowed his great Aunt to be deported then he could look the other way.I applaud him for not being a hypocrite&suing arizona.
PHILLYCORRUPTCOPLEON 1 year ago
@PHILLYCORRUPTCOPLEON
U are aware he gave her amnesty about a month ago,right?
linwooddeaton 1 year ago
OBAMA & the D.O.J. with 100% certainty will lose this case for the Supreme court has already decided this "case-law" decision on THREE IDENTICAL cases & have sided with the STATES EVERY SINGLE TIME, Viva Los 1070 Adios Illegals!
bulabula1 1 year ago
What Jan Brewer has to do is get some smart attorneys to bust OBAMA butt up in court. He cant do one without doing the other. He cant tell one state u cant have a legislation to inquire into the status of the state citizens, but on the other hand let states be santuary states and NOT inquiry about legal status. One is just as detraminal as the other. Either u let states have some latitude in legistation to assist in the enforcement of immigration laws or u strike them all!!!!
nowisthetime1010 1 year ago
Now if you want to get techincal about it, OBAMA'S law suit is discrimintary towards AZ because he has to strike down every piece of legislation on the state level regarding immigration. In California u cant inquiry about immigration status, but at the same time that puts a burden on california citizens, and has the potention to impact the quality of life for its citizen because the enforcement of our immigration laws are being impeded. He cant argue one without taking every state on.
nowisthetime1010 1 year ago
If OBAMA sues AZ, then he will have to strike down EVERY state level law regarding immigration and that includes CALIFORNIA!!!!
nowisthetime1010 1 year ago
@nowisthetime1010 - Can't wait! LMBO!
dyad2r1 1 year ago
The sooner Holder files suit, the better. Arizona will take it to the USSC and the Court will find for Arizona. Case closed.
dyad2r1 1 year ago
Let em sue they'll just be wasting more tax paying dollars & lose hahaha!
bulabula1 1 year ago
Obama is clearly abusing his powers to act as dictator against the will of the majority. He is leading this nation to ruin. Just today the CBO has announced that his spending frenzy is unsustainable and that the HC bill will substantially raise cost well into the future. Even leaders in Europe are warning Obama that he is on an unsustainable course, yet he wrecklessly forges ahead at full steam, determined to have his way. He must be stopped!
SuperEnoughAlready 1 year ago
How long have the U.S. border states been reporting the problems with illegals? 10 yrs?15? National Geographic has covered multiple times.Now it has escalated to the point the point AZ feels they need more laws to protect it's citizens.
Can Obama not take the time to visit these state,learn the history of the problem and what the current issues are and work on a solution? Isn't that his JOB?
goldensassenach 1 year ago
...and all the elected democrats are begging the D.O.J. not to move forward with the lawsuit due to the backlash they will get in there upcoming election. Looks like Arizona will be a Red State in November if the lawsuit goes forward, GREAT!
dantheleo 1 year ago
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qheeercks1 1 year ago
Too bad. The Justice Department has decided to go after Arizona instead of going after illegal aliens coming across the border from Mexico into the United States through Mexico. Does this make sense to you? Makes NO sense to me. IMPEACH OBAMA
1Makyo 1 year ago
@1Makyo correction: through Arizona rather than through Mexico.
1Makyo 1 year ago
@1Makyo Now if we simply got all of them registered as citizens we would get a huge tax influx, and may bring the economy out of the gutter. On the other hand, it takes up jobs that the good 'working class fatties' could have taken. I am simply saying that the average American would not fcking dig a ditch. But a man from Mexico will, and it'd be even better for the economy if he brings in income tax as well.
FlyingSpahghettiMan 1 year ago
@FlyingSpahghettiMan
So you think these underpaid illegals , if made whole somehow, would provide a huge tax influx. I say they would mostly fall into the category of those who get all their tax dollars back from the feds and get a little bonus on top of that too. You are an expert on fatty average Americans I see. I can see why you refer to yourself as flying spaghetti. Try a rolling doughnut.
TAMARLANE 1 year ago
@TAMARLANE No, the FSM is god, my kind sir. They would if taxed properly, and have the same job security as we do. Hell, it may cause some things to actually be done in America.
FlyingSpahghettiMan 1 year ago
@FlyingSpahghettiMan
Ever heard of the earned tax credit?
TAMARLANE 1 year ago
@TAMARLANE Not to mention there are around 10-20 million of them. That is quite a lot more you'd be adding on to your census and taxing data.
FlyingSpahghettiMan 1 year ago
@FlyingSpahghettiMan
I have nothing agains Mexican people. I like the one's I know. We have an economic problem now and they are adding to the problem. Not any help at all.
We have been closing hospitals in California for some time because the illegals don't pay for services there. These are criminals pure and simple. People who don't respect our laws and enter illegally are criminal by definition.
TAMARLANE 1 year ago
@TAMARLANE If they do not pay then they are against the law. That is a generalization. It doesn't necessarily mean all of them wouldn't pay the hospital bill. Perhaps if given the chance, they would pay the bill. People in poverty tend to not be able to pay for the things you are not. Also, our economy would actually collapse if we got rid of them all instantly. There are not enough younger workers.
FlyingSpahghettiMan 1 year ago
@FlyingSpahghettiMan Hospitals have ALREADY been shut down.
Our economy would improve immediately if they were gone. Come back manana when things are better in the USA.
TAMARLANE 1 year ago
@TAMARLANE Like I said, no people to fill the position. Right now there is basically the cheaper labor that kids would offer, except it is in the form of illegal immigrants.
FlyingSpahghettiMan 1 year ago
@FlyingSpahghettiMan
Lots of jobs performed by illegals were previously performed by American citizens. Restaurant workers were traditionally American students. Construction jobs done by most every class of American at one time or another. Landscaping jobs traditionally done by American citizens. Hotel and hospitality jobs done by Americans. True enough, Americans actually made more money doing these jobs, but, aw, never mind.
TAMARLANE 1 year ago
@TAMARLANE At one time. As you may see, we are moving over to a nearly complete service economy. It requires higher education and such, which is very good, at least in my opinion.
FlyingSpahghettiMan 1 year ago
There is no reason for Arizona to continue to allow illegal aliens to cross the border into America on her borders. There is no law in the US or in Arizona to prevent American citizens from patrolling the border with Arizona. Armed American citizens can patrol the border with Mexico legally. All we need is volunteers to patrol the Arizona border with Mexico. I will volunteer to take a few shifts every month.
TAMARLANE 1 year ago 3
@TAMARLANE It depends whether or not you shoot someone.
FlyingSpahghettiMan 1 year ago
@FlyingSpahghettiMan How many instances do you know of where an American citizen has shot anyone coming across the border from Mexico. If anyone attempting to shoot me while coming across the border into the US, I would certainly return fire.
TAMARLANE 1 year ago
@TAMARLANE I never said anyone shoots them. I'm saying if they did. Not to mention legal and diplomatic issues would ensue, if they allow that.
FlyingSpahghettiMan 1 year ago
@FlyingSpahghettiMan We already have legal and diplomatic issues with Mexico.
TAMARLANE 1 year ago
@TAMARLANE All the more to pile on.
FlyingSpahghettiMan 1 year ago
@FlyingSpahghettiMan
Rounding up quickly. Just put a bounty on them. Say, $100 per head.
I know many unemployed veterans who would gladly take on the job. Round up 10 every day, by noon, and collect $1000 for the day. No taxes. $1000 per day X 250 days per year (5 day work week) = $250,000 per year. 2500 aliens per bounty hunter per year X 5000 bounty hunters = 12,500,000 illegal aliens and deporting millions of illegal aliens would be very easy. And, it would happen rather
TAMARLANE 1 year ago
@TAMARLANE Quick thing: Where is this money coming from? Also, if this is done en masse, some of the paper work is bound to be confused. What if who they deport is an actual American? What if they aren't able to come back due to poverty? They obviously wouldn't be able to just pack up and leave.
FlyingSpahghettiMan 1 year ago
@TAMARLANE - You are foolish if you think you can solve this problem by patrolling the border. Humans are resourceful, they will find a way. Stop looking at the symptoms and address the cause. There will always be Mexicans. But we as Americans can end this madness by cracking down on the illegal hiring and domestic drug use.
matreyia 1 year ago
@matreyia Closing the border is just one aspect of the solution. Fining and jailing employers is one part of it. 5000 bounty hunters can find and deport 12,500,000 illegal aliens in a year. Drying up the demand for drugs is not easy like the other three things already mentioned.
GreatSatan1 1 year ago
@GreatSatan1 - I will let you have on million bounty hunters. You can find all of them in a year, then you will have to keep doing it every single day for the existence of this country. You are trying to stop ants from invading your picnic by squashing each individual ant and are not addressing the queen. If Mexico had a less corrupt gov. & super economy, some US folks might move there to live at nice places it has. But Mexico sucks in these aspects so that is another factor 4 immigration.
matreyia 1 year ago
@matreyia If we want to have a sovereign country, governed by laws, we must secure the border with Mexico. We must find, arrest, jail, and fine all employers dealing in illegal immigrants. We must find the interlopers and deport them. We must prevent them from entering our country again by securing the border.
If you disagree, then you are not an American, and , you are wrong.
TAMARLANE 1 year ago
@TAMARLANE - What part of "not supporting illegal immigration" did you not understand?
And, what part of "being able to see both sides of the situation" did you not understand.
Spare me the ignorant black or white patriotism bullshit. You can take that kind of ignorance and shove it up your ass.
Your idea of patriotism is shallow and one sided. It is like people who think that only soldiers are patriotic. People who think that folks who don't like war are unpatriotic. A pathetic mindset.
matreyia 1 year ago
@matreyia What part of "sovereign" are you missing here?
TAMARLANE 1 year ago
@TAMARLANE - "What part of "sovereign" are you missing"
As if tackling illegal immigration makes any country sovereign. Laughable simpleton logic.
matreyia 1 year ago
@matreyia You don't seem to know what sovereign means. I will go and get the definition for you this once. I know it is hopeless, trying to educate you, but out of the generosity of my heart, I will give it a stab (also I'm bored out of my gourd today, otherwise I wouldn't spend any time of this at all)
TAMARLANE 1 year ago
@matreyia
sovereignty in the modern world usually refers to a government's ability to enforce laws over territory.
TAMARLANE 1 year ago
@TAMARLANE - you must have learned this from Bush.
1. monarch or supreme ruler
2. person or state that has supreme power or authority (in that state)
3. an old british coin
4. royal
5. indisputable, supreme, preeminent
6. potent - as in a sovereign remedy
7. above others in character, importance, excellence etc.
Jesus Christ man.
matreyia 1 year ago
@matreyia We'll just leave this now. It is a British coin.
TAMARLANE 1 year ago
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@TAMARLANE - And that's why you are wrong.
matreyia 1 year ago
@matreyia I think soldiers are patriotic. I think their parents, brothers, sisters, cousins, friends and neighbors are also patriotic. That covers just about all 300+million people in America.
TAMARLANE 1 year ago
@TAMARLANE
You are so correct. The patrolling would be totally legal.
Now if an illegal alien were to come across while you were patrolling they could just walk right past you, because should you try to detain them in anyway you would have broken the law.
As it is not legal for just any American to detain any foreign national, that is reserved for ICE.
DocRocz 1 year ago
@DocRocz Easy to get deputized in the US. Deputy Sheriffs arrest people all the time and turn them over to ICE.
TAMARLANE 1 year ago
@TAMARLANE Very true if that is what you had said.
"Armed American citizens can patrol the border with Mexico legally. All we need is volunteers to patrol the Arizona border with Mexico.".
DocRocz 1 year ago
@DocRocz I have actually patrolled a little on property owned by a friend near Yuma. We stopped a few interlopers, contacted the local sheriff , who arrested 3 and turned them over to ICE ultimately. Nothing wrong with that.
TAMARLANE 1 year ago
@TAMARLANE Well lets hope you do better than the Arizona rancher who detained illegals.
Federal Jury Finds AZ Rancher Roger Barnett Did not Violate Illegal Immigrants’ Rights … However, Did Find Liable on Claims of Assault $77,804 in Damages.
DocRocz 1 year ago
@DocRocz There are reasons we have laws on the books regarding illegal immigration into this country. You are touching on some of them..
TAMARLANE 1 year ago
@TAMARLANE I volunteered. I went to Yuma, to a friend's property to help out. We stopped a few illegals from entering the country. We had 3 arrested.
TAMARLANE 1 year ago
BrrREAk the LiTTLE RACiST PiGGiES' BANk!!!
Already Facing 5 Lawsuits...
~•From a Police Officer w/independent thought & a conscience
~•From the Brave City of Tucson
~•From a Coalition of Civil Rights groups
~•From a Coalition of Clergy men
~•From various people in Tucson
... The Justice Department's Lawsuit is just like the Lion's R_O_A_R.
AMERiCA R_U_L_E_S, Aryan-Zona will N_E_V_E_R!!!
NIKKEIsix 1 year ago
@YellowYoshiEgg oh, so arizona isn't bankrupt huh? it has all the money in the world to be involved in a federal law suit! in addition are you saying because the feds are in financial straights, all law suits will be dropped or not undertaken? where the hell are you from.
the law suits will go thru whether you think so or not. why do you think in 20 yrs the fed will be meaningless, and if true do you recall it was "christian"republicans who caused this? get your act and facts straight idiot!
wntoply6 1 year ago
@wntoply6Hey Win. You lose, as usual. You just can't resist can you? Resist putting in something about Christians. hhahahaha. Bigots. Homophobes. Racists.
You are a classic example of compulsive/obsessive behavior.
NotEasilyRegimented 1 year ago
@NotEasilyRegimented i never talk about christians noteasilyregimented, much to your stupidity. i do talk about "christians" however. now go back to 3rd grade english and learn how to read, and what punctuation means, and how it effects written english. you're typical of the type person i talk about, ignorant, and like those "christians" bigoted.
you think you got the brains to comprehend now idiot?
wntoply6 1 year ago
@wntoply6 It's a bird, it's a plane, it's anti-"christian" man. anti-bigot man, anti-homophobe man, anti-racist man.Able to jump over tall tales spun by liberals, but unwilling to do so, it is WINTOPLYMAN
1Makyo 1 year ago
@1Makyo yup, i certainly are anti "christian" you should be too, but seems you're just too ignorant, intolerant or hateful too...attributes of "christians". and i repeat for your education, i never mention Christians. i only damn "christians" get it buddy?
you're statements are just plain stupid, as are most coming from "christian"conservatives...who are afraid of their own shadow.
wntoply6 1 year ago
@NotEasilyRegimented no you lose. i never mention Christians. i do however mention "christians". learn to read and quote correctly before you make a post here moteasilyregimented. and i stand by my statements, "christians" are not Christian. they are as evil, bigoted and intolerant as they claim muslims are. think about it before you further post. you don't want to make a fool out of yourself again...now do you...that is unless you're a fucking "christian"!
wntoply6 1 year ago
The federal government of the United States is the central government entity established by the United States Constitution, are the executive, judicial, and legislative branches. US Federal Immigration Policy already exists in the US Codes. The state of Arizona, under US Constitution Article 4 Section 4, has enacted a law to fulfill its duty to "protect every state in the union."
How extremist of Arizona to do as the US Constitution requires. I am proud of Arizona.
borderraven 1 year ago
@borderraven Obama is showing his ass on this issue. On most issues. He is an ideologue who needs to be impeached. We must impeach Obama now. For Treason. For bribery. For high crimes and misdemeanors. For misfeasance. for malfeasance.
IMPEACH OBAMA
NotEasilyRegimented 1 year ago
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~•First "BiRTHERS", with "show us your papers Mr. President" , prove you R a citizen
~•Then "DEATHERS", swearing Obama's Health Care plan was really a plot 2 kill old people
~•Now "BROWNERS", with "show us your papers, everyone, brown"... • ban on ethnic studies •firing of teachers w/accents
~•Next "DENiALERS", seeking 2 deny babies birth certificates if the mother can't prove US citizenship
~•All brought 2U by republicans in Aryan_Zona•~
Who will they go after Next?..
NIKKEIsix 1 year ago 4
@JASONNHENCHMENN That's better.
172677 1 year ago
Oh hell, that pesky Constitution is in the way again............................ This nation IS doomed. Buy guns, ammo, and shovels. You'll be needing them soon.
pwhited 1 year ago
Ok, now is their anybody out there that still supports this terrorists? Clearly he hates America. Eric Holder dismissed the voter intimidation case against the Black Panthers but will sue on of our Governors for upholding the United States Constitution? WTF? This is yet another treasonous act and yet again shows where Obama's loyalties lie, to terrorists and criminals.
tiitytat 1 year ago 2
This should be taken to the USSC as soon as possible, but it won't. Meantime, neither the administration nor the DOJ is going to go near this because it's so toxic. They've already postponed Obama's amnesty legislation indefinitely. I think Hillary's blowing smoke to appease the illegals' unfounded fears and the left's temper tantrums over the AZ law.
dyad2r1 1 year ago
See
Legal Analysis of Arizona’s S.B. 1070 for the US Congress
fasDOTorg/sgp/crs/homesec/R41221.pdf
See
scribdDOTcom/doc/31862102/Who-is-Responsible-for-Securing-the-State-Border-and-Arresting-12-Million-Illegals
borderraven 1 year ago
Obammy is just another globalist pig who wants a borderless world. To hell with him a million times over.
ddddcinc 1 year ago
Civil War is on it's way, which i think is the only way for Americans to stop illegal immigration, defeat Obama, who is an immigrant himself and literally Hi-Jacked the White House. Our government has it's own agenda and the world calls it "USA" but it's not USA, it's Obama and his gangsters now.
Civil war and Confederacy is what we the American people need. we don't all need to live together like a melting pot with no culture... we should be allowed our own states within the continent like EU.
dp535i 1 year ago
@dp535i - civil war! confederacy! hi jacking! defeat the President of the usa! separation! illegal aliens! don't let those Mexican babies be citizens because they are Mexicans! - they will form dangerous Mexican baby gangs!!! oh shit! You sound like a fucking extremist Muslim. Get a grip. The problem is the people who continue to hire illegal aliens for cheap. First they hire them and pay them peanuts, then you blast them for coming to work...so they get shitted on twice.
matreyia 1 year ago
@matreyia Your ignorance is overwhelming. MS13 is huge in California and growing. We have a ton of problems from these illegals in our prison system. In fact the two worst gangs to deal with are the Norteños and Sureños. So these mexican babies HAVE formed gangs and are committing crimes and filling our prisons. They are costing tax payers billions a year and need to be sent back to mexico. Mexico does the same thing to central american illegals.
irshchuculain 1 year ago
@irshchuculain - these are not Mexican babies. they are young adults. If they were born here, it isn't because they r Mexican that they are in gangs - so here ur ignorant. They are involved in criminal activities because of a lack of opportunity & racist policies and attitudes which Americans automatically apply to them for being Mexican. Such attitudes result in fear & rejection of their positive potential. Or does it suit ur mind that there have been no such thing as a positive Mexican figure?
matreyia 1 year ago
@matreyia
If there is a "lack of opportunity" here, why are they here at all?
pwhited 1 year ago
@pwhited are you serious? so you think mowing lawns and waiting tables count as opportunities? How about being a housemaid? or Janitor? give me a break. we have Americans sitting in plush office chairs, participating in Wall Street matters, occupying distinguished positions in myriad organizations...did you think that a Latino could do such things? I do, if anyone gave them half a chance to go to school instead of instantly rejecting them as liabilities.
matreyia 1 year ago
@matreyia Apparently the illegals consider those jobs opportunities, whether you do or not. They make more here waiting tables than they would in Mexico doing the same thing, yes?? If these illegals have it SOOOO bad here, WHY DO THEY STAY? Sure, Latinos can become corporate bigwigs. We have to GIVE the education to them, right?? Like, FREE? Get a grip...
pwhited 1 year ago
@pwhited - don't give a person fair chances of being able to do anything constructive in life, then complain that they are fucking up...yeah, that's really sensible. People like GOP minded folks who whine about immigrants yet reject attempts to invest in education are the only ones shooting themselves in the foot. Keep all that money so that you can buy guns to shoot uneducated people running amok committing crimes.
matreyia 1 year ago
@matreyia They have a chance to do something constructive in life.. STAY HOME AND DO IT...
pwhited 1 year ago
@matreyia They commit these crimes of their own free will. They made the decision to violate law and they are responsible. If they come over the fence illegally they need to be sent back. They broke the law and will face the consequences. If they are here legally they have plenty of opportunities but if illegal go home.
irshchuculain 1 year ago
@irshchuculain - are you implying that I want illegal aliens who violate our laws to stay free of any demands? Is this ur normal mode of thinking? To jump to conclusions about any little disagreement u have? Sure, illegals should be subject to proper laws and procedures and sent back, but such laws & procedures should not ever put any citizen in danger of getting their civil rights violated. This is the issue friend. Not that anyone wants free reign for illegals. That is absurd.
matreyia 1 year ago
@matreyia I absolutely agree that civil rights should not be violated. Perhaps we were misunderstanding each other. If you are referring to random stops then yes it definitely goes too far. However the federal government under the obama administration has done almost nothing to stop the influx of illegal immigrants. So I can understand the State side of the issue although I think it is wrong.
irshchuculain 1 year ago
@irshchuculain - thank you for your patience and willingness to hear my statements.
matreyia 1 year ago
@irshchuculain - so it seems that you quote MS13, one of the most violent gangs on earth as a reason to treat Mexicans like 2nd class humans. As though there is nothing good that could come of Mexicans or of their culture. It would be like fearing white people because only whites are members of KKK or Nazis. You are a slave to fear and ignorance and you might want to try to use objective logic to its fullest before allying urself with emotional logic. Emotions are unreliable.
matreyia 1 year ago
@matreyia Most of the illegal Mexican inmates I deal with are gang members and part of Norteños or Sureños. However if they are illegal then there is no additional crime they have to commit to be deported. If they come illegally a crime has taken place and the proper response is deportation. This is not emotional but logical. You on the other hand seem to be quite emotional in your responses.
irshchuculain 1 year ago
@irshchuculain - very good friend, you deal with INMATES, that is much different than a Latino-American walking on the street minding his own business. So do us all a favor and deport these inmates back to Mexico, but make to mistake, never support a law which puts legit Latino-Americans in danger of discrimination. You brought your work home with you. Would you break into your neighbor's house to demand papers if they were Latino-Americans?
matreyia 1 year ago
@irshchuculain - again, Mexican gangs and cartels do not form in a vacuum. They form from the market for drugs in America and the world. So please get a grip and stop implying that Mexicans grow up to be in cartels automatically. There are good Americans who do not do drugs, and stupid Americans that love drugs and have no care for the consequences of their actions in the big picture. Drug users, businesses who continue to provide incentive for illegal immigration are more at fault.
matreyia 1 year ago
@matreyia I am not implying that mexicans grow up into cartels. I am stating that illegal immigrants need to be deported. All 20,000,000 sent home to mexico. I am not denying that a market for drugs and cheap labor is a draw factor. However that does not justify these illegals breaking the law.
irshchuculain 1 year ago
@irshchuculain "However that does not justify these illegals breaking the law. " What difference does it make whether someone is illegal or not if he is breaking the law? Come on. Look at your focus. You put "illegals" in front of breaking the law when clearly it should be the reverse. First, address the breaking of laws, then if they are illegal, deport them. But please, this absurd McCarthyism against Latino-Americans is uncalled for.
matreyia 1 year ago
@matreyia Mexican gangs and cartels do not form in a vacuum? How do they form. Where do they form? Are you suggesting that if there were no drug users in America then the gangs and cartels would not exist. They would just disappear? hahahahaha
NotEasilyRegimented 1 year ago
@NotEasilyRegimented - are you saying that they appear out of nowhere?
Get a grip. It would be absurd to base the creation of gangs on drugs alone. You'd be a fool to overlook turf wars etc. But it all boils down to life opportunities and options. You think a sane person wants to join an organization that kills you for leaving? If there isn't any option left, nothing to live for, the society around you rejects you just for being mexican...what where would you go? any place that will take you.
matreyia 1 year ago
@NotEasilyRegimented stop being racist you motherfucker, go back to da concentration camps for that
Ambushcrysis 1 year ago
@matreyia - if they actually worked professionally, i might have a little pity for them. however, i've worked side by side with many of them & my apartment complex has even hired about 15 of them to do misc work on my apartment. when they set up to paint, they are scraping all the dried up wasted paint from the last work day that they should have cleaned up at the end of the day. they piss on the building, take 2 hr breaks, work slow, get paint on everything.
they're not even worth peanuts.
dp535i 1 year ago
@dp535i - this is my point exactly. You should not even be working with illegal aliens. This is the crux of the problem. Why should they get shitted on when it's American companies who are cheap and hire them for cheap labor knowing that they are not qualified...then people like you turn around and complain about them not doing their "jobs" properly. If you went to a foreign country looking for ANY work to feed ur family, u might not know some kinds of trades also.
matreyia 1 year ago
@dp535i As I said before, stop hiring illegal aliens and the problem will be reduced significantly. Hiring them for cheap shows no respect for them and no respect for your clients who buy the end product because the pay is subpar AND the product is subpar. Stop worshipping the bottom line and do the right thing even if it costs a little more. You get what you pay for.
matreyia 1 year ago
@matreyia - exactly. i couldn't agree more..
dp535i 1 year ago
@matreyia Well, the illegals are ACCEPTING those jobs "for cheap", are they not?? If they didn't want those jobs, they wouldn't accept them "for cheap".. They are making far more here working "for cheap" than they would be back home. There's a solution to their problem though, since they have it just SO bad here. GO HOME...
pwhited 1 year ago
@pwhited - they would not accept the jobs nor would they be here if it were not for Americans who took the jobs for decent pay rates. It is because of greed that Americans hire illegals and pay them peanuts. You want to solve it? Pay decent wages for crappy jobs so that Americans will even consider taking them. The Mexicans are victims of poverty and greed.
matreyia 1 year ago
@pwhited - Furthermore, you would piss off lots of small business owners with your "go home" crap since they depend on cheap labor to eek out their profits. Since Americans are protected by wage requirements, the businesses must exploit the illegal immigrants who must stay quiet to avoid being sent back & with no chance to earn money to feed their families. Firstly, US folks would balk at such low wage offers, secondly US folks r protected by wage laws so it's illegal to offer such low wages.
matreyia 1 year ago
@matreyia I see.. It's the companies who hire illegals who are doing something illegal, NOT the illegals who enter the country illegally. If things are so bad for them here, why are they not leaving? And why are more coming in illegally everyday? I mean, if it just svcks so bad for them, why aren't the letting their countrymen know that its just not worth coming here at all? Even at low wages these illegals make far more here than they would in their own country. They are here ILLEGALLY.
pwhited 1 year ago
@pwhited - no you don't see. you are not understanding that nobody is defending illegal immigration. BECAUSE IT'S ILLEGAL. Were there anyone who supported ILLEGAL immigration, they would also be classified as criminals.
So drop the one sided argument. "Why are they not leaving if it's so bad? blah blah" BECAUSE WE are breaking the law right along with them by hiring them ILLEGALLY. You'd better get your head out of the sand & accept some responsibility for the US or u won't ever figure it out.
matreyia 1 year ago
@matreyia No.. YOU don't see.. If the illegals hadn't come here illegally to begin with, no one would be hiring them at all! I accept NO responsibility in this, because I am a citizen who works for a living, does not own a company, and do not hire illegals. It should be dealt with by our government, by keeping people from crossing illegally. There are those who support illegal immigration, La Raza, AND the Mexican government do, as do others.
pwhited 1 year ago
@pwhited - "If the illegals hadn't come here illegally to begin with, no one would be hiring them at all! "
Haahaahaaaaaa
matreyia 1 year ago
@pwhited - Man you really don't know how to think fairly do you? You realize that the very first original illegal immigrants to this country was Columbus, then eventual white folk from Britain. Now these first "Pilgrims" came for religious freedom, then the rest came en-masse with a particular mind set: subjugation of the land & natives.
Think about that before saying something retarded like "if they hadn't come here illegally to begin with..."
matreyia 1 year ago
@matreyia What's retarded about it? They commit a crime when they come here illegally. I have NO pity for them whatever, and never will. There was no "illegal immigration" to this land when the Pilgrims came here, since there were no laws covering that. It was an unhappy moment for the native Americans, to be sure, but it wasn't "illegal". However, now it IS illegal without proper documentation. Again, if they are SOO unhappy with their plight, THEY CAN LEAVE.
pwhited 1 year ago
@pwhited - "There was no "illegal immigration" to this land when the Pilgrims came here, since there were no laws covering that."
That is the most idiotic statement I have ever read. So you are saying that it wasn't illegal for white folk to come here because the white folks did not create laws about illegal immigration yet. You single sided simpleton.
matreyia 1 year ago
@matreyia That's EXACTLY what I'm saying, Braindead. Your reading comprehension skills need some polishing. If there are no laws making something illegal, it cannot be illegal. Therefore, europeans coming here to set up shop was totally legal. There were no laws stating that they could NOT come here were there? Please show me the laws that were on the books regarding immigration when Europeans first came to these shores. However, there ARE laws regarding illegal immigration now, moron.
pwhited 1 year ago
@pwhited - You idiot. You don't even know that you just used circular logic to try to justify your argument. Saying that it was legal for Europeans to come to the U.S. because the Europeans did not make such laws yet ----means absolutely nothing. The Europeans still came and overpowered and conquered the original inhabitants. Just because Europeans did not make up laws yet, doesn't negate the fact that they were the foreign and alien elements to the natives. Get ur head out of the sand.
matreyia 1 year ago
@matreyia So effing what? The strong always overpower the weak. It's the way the world works, braindead. It's been that way since DAY ONE. Get over yourself. Now that there ARE laws regarding illegal immigration, they should be enforced or done away with. The fact is, braindead, WE'RE FULL. We have no more room for freeloading assholes. Have a nice day!! Haha!!!
pwhited 1 year ago
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@pwhited - "So effing what? The strong always overpower the weak. It's the way the world works"
I was waiting for your stupidity and ignorance to show up and you didn't disappoint. You and all people like you are what makes the world a shitty place. Have a nice day you selfish greedy fuck.
matreyia 1 year ago
@pwhited - "The fact is, braindead, WE'RE FULL..."
Well, then I guess you haven't seen those mountains, deserts, and prairies and most of all, you haven't been to Texas where I live. I was waiting for your true side to show up and you didn't disappoint. You and people like you give us a bad name. Have a nice day you greedy selfish ignorant fool.
matreyia 1 year ago
@pwhited - Finally, if you were starving, you too would "ACCEPT" a shitty low paying job in terrible conditions. Why? Because you are starving and that might be the only job that was available or "OFFERED".
As I said before, nobody wants illegal immigrants, but folks gotta also see both sides and not just their own selfish fears or desires.
matreyia 1 year ago
@matreyia Dear bleeding heart. I once scraped spaghetti sauce off a tile floor and ran it through a strainer to get the crud out of it before eating it. I know what hunger is. I've been poor like many others. There are several things I did NOT do, however. I did NOT cry about it, or complain to local government. I did NOT try to get things for free. I did NOT go to another country illegally and tell them that I wanted my drivers license test done in MY language.
pwhited 1 year ago
@pwhited (continued) Nor did I go to another country and demand that my kids be schooled in their native tongue. I didn't demand free healthcare, or commit crimes to support myself. You are WRONG when you say that 'folks gotta see both sides". You might think that they should, but that doesn't make it so. If I went to Mexico illegally, I would get NO help from anyone, would be unable to work at all, and would be in prison soon enough. Screw the illegals, I really don't care at all.
pwhited 1 year ago
@pwhited (continued) They came here of their own free will thinking that it would be SOOO great. Well, it appears that many of them were just wrong! Oh well.. Too bad, so sad. You pay your quarter and you takes your chances, as the man said so long ago. If it's so bad for them here, THEY CAN LEAVE. You really don't get it. THEY CAN GO HOME if they DON'T LIKE IT HERE. Pretty simple, really, if you THINK about it. Good luck with the thinking part..
pwhited 1 year ago
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@pwhited - "I did NOT cry about it... to local government."- They stay silent & fear deportation (you are wrong).
"I did NOT try to get things for free." - They stay silent for fear of deportation (you are wrong)
"I did NOT go to another country illegally and tell them that I wanted my drivers license test done in MY language." - They stay silent for fear of deportation (you are wrong)
These things are requested by legalized latinos, illegals since they have no rights of citizens.
matreyia 1 year ago
@pwhited - All of your absurd claims about illegal aliens demanding this and that are also false. 100% of the time these people stay silent for fear of deportation. It is the legal latinos, churches and human rights organizations which ask for such things. Stop the bullshit. This is why you are so pissed off, you have a false view of the situation which flies in the face of logic and reality. Criminality, including abuse of the system is not exclusive to and single group. All are guilty.
matreyia 1 year ago
the federal gov should be making this kind of law. But their not. So the states have to.
zcar300 1 year ago
Kill all Congresspersons. Kill all politicians.
Civil War 2 is coming.
HavePenisWillButtsex 1 year ago
You can all thank the Tea parties. The true voice of the American Middle is starting to emerge.
This will start a chain reaction that will address the issues of less crime, lower taxes, shorter waits in the emergency room, smaller classroom sizes for our children.
Those who are in favor of Illegal immigration, must also be for illegal murder, illegal drug smuggling, illegal rape
What part of Illegal don't these Mehicanos understand? The IL part or the Legal part? ILLEGAL=NOT LEGAL
TheLibertariansUnite 1 year ago
@TheLibertariansUnite Last time I checked you don't need to be an illegal to commit those crimes. The tea parties are nothing but a bunch of rich brainwashed racist who are greedy self indulgent people.
Ambushcrysis 1 year ago
@Ambushcrysis
Last time I checked illegal immigration, illegal rape, illegal murder, illegal robbery are all illegal. Why is it that you support illegal immigration and not illegal rape?
If illegal immigration infringes on somebody's liberty to migrate here, then illegal rape infringes on my right to get some from your mother whenever I feel like it.
The liberals are nothing but a bunch of rich brainwashed facists who are greedy and self indulgent people ;)
TheLibertariansUnite 1 year ago 2
@Ambushcrysis
Fuck off you piece of shit.
HavePenisWillButtsex 1 year ago
@Ambushcrysis, I'm not rich. I am not brainwashed. The point about illegals and crime, if if the illegal is not in the USA, our citizens won't be a victim of his crimes. Sure our citizens commit crimes, but if we remove those who should not be here (illegals) then we reduce crime.
borderraven 1 year ago
@JASONNHENCHMENN Do you know that there are people on YouTube who will turn you in for making a direct threat to our President? Do you know that it can result in the Feds showing up at your door???? See Stephen Joseph Christopher,Theodore Carrington, Jr., Norman Leboon and others. Other nutjobs have been arrested for youtube postings threatening Elton John, Nancy Pelosi, Mayer Daley (Chicago), Hal Turner arrested for threatening 3 judges on his internet "talk show". Be careful, buster.
172677 1 year ago
@172677 So, that still means that at least some of them entered illegally if they have no papers. This would infer, if I understand you correctly, not all undocumented would have necessarily entered illegally, but all "illegal immigrants" = "undocumented."
Therefore, we are still at least partially talking about those who acted illegally by entering our country illegally. Thus, my original presumption that it is strange that an illegal act would not be punished is justified.
QED.
Bernankegreenspan 1 year ago
So, the govt and their lawyer friends are going to shake down the states too. Just like the EPA is trying to shake down Texas right now. This is sickening. Arizonia ammended the current federal law which made it to where there would be no profiling.
duvexy 1 year ago
@duvexy 1. correct spelling: Arizona (no second "i"), 2. no state can amend Federal Law..not even AZ, 3.AZ knows the law won't stand the smell test in the courts. The Governor and others are just looking to get re-elected by all this. This has been tried before....many times....and has been struck down. AZ government is shafting it's citizens...and pandering to them to stay in office...that's all.4.the "govt's" job is to uphold Fed Law..so of course they will remove AZ law..which is illegal.
172677 1 year ago
Guys. stop worrying; its *illegal* immigration. *Illegal* being the key word there. Everyone who didn't commit a crime is exempt.
murder = crime which is punished
theft = crime which is punished
*illegal* immigration = crime which is not punished?
weird.
Bernankegreenspan 1 year ago
@Bernankegreenspan Actually, the term "illegal immigration" refers to the act of entering a country, bypassing normal channels. The term for those here without papers or whose papers have expired are called "undocumented". The term "illegal aliens" is a perjorative one...meaning something else entirely and dehumanizing a specific group of people. If an undocumented immigrant commits a crime here, he's called a criminal...regardless of where he's from.
172677 1 year ago
Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
LawyerScumGhost 1 year ago 3
@LawyerScumGhost Exactly!!!!That Right we have is called the ballot box.Every election, we have a chance to remove or elect those who govern us.That's what the phrase means.It doesn't mean a state or a person can take matters into their own hands,override the Consitution or ignore the law.We,the people,speak on each and every voting occasion.Those who pay attention to the candidates,what they've done,what issaid usually make good decisions.Those who don't usually get the government they deserve.
172677 1 year ago
Hilary is part of the broken anti-American machine that will soon fail. AZ needs to stand on its Constitutional rights. Virginia is soon to follow!!!!!!
762lenny 1 year ago 4
@762lenny I agree, AZ need to stand on the Constitution....which specifically prohibits what AZ is doing. You don't get to pick and choose which part of that document you like and what you don't like.....
172677 1 year ago
@172677 It mimicks the Federal laws - this is why people that are stupid should learn to read.
762lenny 1 year ago
@762lenny No, it doesn't. It puts the onus on local police to enforce Federal law...and, they have no authority to do that.
Interesting how many in law enforcement in that state say they aren't going to enforce it. They know it's a racist law and they will have no part of it.
Not to worry. It will be gone in another few months.
172677 1 year ago
@172677 that is really sad - there is NO racism in the law. LOCAL POLICE ARE SWORN TO UPHOLD FEDERAL AND LOCAL LAW. You leftists throw around racism like it doesn't mean anything and in a few months thanks to you it will have no meaning.
762lenny 1 year ago
@762lenny Police are sworn to uphold laws that are Constitutional and lawful...they are NOT required to act as the gestapo on the orders of some whack-job politician who doesn't like people of color. Pima country Sheriff Clarence Dupnik won't do it..and said so in April. Phoenix officer David Salgado, same thing..and others. My brother is retired Sheriff and he wouldn't do it...neither will his friends still on active duty.
172677 1 year ago
@172677 Well said friend well said.
matreyia 1 year ago
@172677 No, it puts the onus on local police to enforce the Arizona law, NOT the federal law. And so far, the Federal courts are on Arizona's side...
pwhited 1 year ago
@pwhited Do you live in a cave? You certainly know nothing about our Constitution nor Immigration Law. Are you aware that the DOJ has taken the state of AZ to court in Phoenix? Are you aware that it was LAST WEEK...and the Judge has the case and will make a decision? Or is it that you only believe what you hope is true. If DOJ doesn't get a positive decision, they will appeal...which is a good possiblity because of AZ Judges. It may go all the way to the Supremes who will overturn it.
172677 1 year ago
@172677 Hi.. Yes.. I do live in a cave, and one that apparently has better communication facilities than where you live. (Cardboard box, perhaps?) Check the judges ruling, MOST of the AZ law is still intact.
pwhited 1 year ago
How about we sue the government for not keeping the greasy little fuckers out of here in the first place??!! They make up a huge percentage of our prison populations, not to mention being a total drain on society's resources......why the HELL are they here?? And monkey boy wants to sue Arizona!? God I hope this bumble fuck gets impeached.
MrNewerbeg 1 year ago 5
@MrNewerbeg Federal Prison population by race: 57.9 white, 38.6 black,33.1 hispanic. All prisons and jails 2008: 33.44 white,40.21 black,20.29 hispanic. Sorry to bust your bubble.The majority of prison population is good old home grown white American MEN. By the words in your post, I can tell what a racist pig you are. People like you are the dregs of and the drag on our society....
172677 1 year ago
@172677 Oh how I love it when you little libtards throw that R word around. Your facts are for FEDERAL prison.....NOT STATE and especially not TEXAS STATE PRISONS......get your facts straight corn hole before you make yourself look like a bumble fuck.
MrNewerbeg 1 year ago
@MrNewerbeg Can you read? The first set is for FEDERAL PRISONS (note where it says "Federal Prison population). The second is for ALL prisons and jails (note where it says "all prisons and jails"),,,not my statistics bub.....Bureau of Federal Prisons and Incarceration in the United States..... As for Texas...well, what can I say. As a 5th generation Texan on my Father's side, I can say quite truthfully that it has gone to hell in a handbasket since the lunatics took over.
172677 1 year ago
@172677 Oh....and while I've got your little brain's attention.....I'd rather be a racist any day than an ILLEGAL.....don't know what the word "illegal" means? Look it up. And just one more little factoid for you brother......over 70% of the American population is on MY side. I'll never understand people like you.....are you an anarchist or do you have a little illegal Mexican grandma hiding in your basement? The world may never know. ;)
MrNewerbeg 1 year ago