@MattBlytheTheOne obiviously a noob at archery or some guy that never shot a bow before it's called the archer's paradox enDOTwikipediaDOTorg/wiki/Archer's_paradox
I hope everyone who's had this argument with me in the past will notice that the arrow doesn't start any significant rotation until AFTER it's past the riser. Great job on the video. Also notice how a perfectly spined arrow's fletchings totally clear the riser as a correclty spined arrow will time the bend of the back end of the arrow away from the riser as the fletchings pass.
Archers paradox is the term used to describe what early archers noticed. In order to hit the target, the arrow in the bow pointed away from it. That's the paradox. Arrows bending isn't a paradox.
@Drivinfast247 "Archer's paradox" isn't the arrow bending. It's the departure difference between where the arrow is pointed while in the bow, and where it ends up in the target. In order for the arrow to hit the target, it points away from it. THAT is archers paradox.
@admacdo2009 I have no idea how I commented on this. I think I watched a diff. video before and was reading some stupid comments. But thank you for the info.
The "Archers Paradox" is not only at a recurve or compound bow, you get it by Longbows aswell. Sometimes even more, because the string hits the nock not even due to the big grip without a resting point for the arrow. The arrow bows more if you shoot over your handback and the paradoxon makes the arrow fly more accurate then, so its nothing bad.
Have you ever noticed anytime you see arrow movement like that it is from finger shooting? And usually from a recurve? This is a great shot...watch as her string is moving side to side. You cannot get truly straight string travel by shooting fingers, that is why compounds have cutout risers and you generally use a release; it allows straight string travel, thus straight arrow flight. This is simply the arrow reacting to what the string is making it do.
@jimmyp7162 According to what I read from another video it can also be "the archers paradox" which is "to do with the spine of the shaft in relation to the poundage of the bow" I'm still learning about archery. but it does seem to make sense that the rigidity of the arrow in combination with the poundage would make a difference.
Actually, you don't have straight arrow flight in compound bows either, it's simple physics. What happens is that with the compound bow, the arrow flexes in a vertical pattern, as opposed to the horizontal pattern of the recurve bow. That's why compound rests can be adjusted for stiffness, much like to the effect of a plunger button on a recurve.
I've seen a physics video explaining how archers paradox is actually the arrow storing energy by using the wobbling movement. When released, the arrow is accelerating up to it's peak speed and holds it for a great distance. The reason why is the quick vibration in the arrow you see in this video.
not all arrows do that that exaggerated hunting arrows are more stiff because they have to withstand impact comp arrows dont there lighter and more flexible.
This is why a release aid is easier to be accurate, fingers let the string roll off to one side. Finger shooters that are accurate have excellent form and the perfect taylored setup just for them.
Hey guys, this us Juan Rene Serrano (MEX) shooting and believe me he has one of the best bow tunings out there. He is a top world archer and this is one of the best bow tunings out there. So what we see here is perfectly fine for recurve archery.
You don't correct it. That's exactly what it is supposed to look like. This is good arrow flight. You have to have the right spine arrow for the weight of the bow and the arrow length to get the correct cycling as seen here.
Yes!...... you don't correct it but you do compensate for it by tuning, getting the arrows 'node' points ( the points about which the arrow oscillates) to travel in a straight line, Ignoring the vibration and concentrating on the general direction
Archers Paradox is necessary to allow the fletchings (feathers) to pass the riser (bow) these are well tuned arrows that are well set up to allow nice clearance.
That's the most perfect example of arrow spine flexing I've ever seen! Nice video.
utubesqueeze 3 months ago
I am as straight as an arrow! ;D
TheCraftlings 4 months ago
and you hit the target with these, it would be more accurate if you took the feathers off lol
MattBlytheTheOne 5 months ago
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@MattBlytheTheOne said "and you hit the target with these, it would be more accurate if you took the feathers off lol"
and you hit the target with these, it would be more accurate if you used a rifle lol
You got more stupid comment like that?
newtubetubetube 4 months ago
@MattBlytheTheOne obiviously a noob at archery or some guy that never shot a bow before it's called the archer's paradox enDOTwikipediaDOTorg/wiki/Archer's_paradox
CamperzHappy 2 weeks ago
@CamperzHappy haha thanks
MattBlytheTheOne 2 weeks ago
why r u tieing the rope if ur not gonna use it?!
darkdomainx 7 months ago
I hope everyone who's had this argument with me in the past will notice that the arrow doesn't start any significant rotation until AFTER it's past the riser. Great job on the video. Also notice how a perfectly spined arrow's fletchings totally clear the riser as a correclty spined arrow will time the bend of the back end of the arrow away from the riser as the fletchings pass.
WheeliePete 7 months ago
it is very interesting to watch in slow motion.
i only seen it in normal speed, and from behind.
gitareivind 7 months ago
Archers paradox is the term used to describe what early archers noticed. In order to hit the target, the arrow in the bow pointed away from it. That's the paradox. Arrows bending isn't a paradox.
admacdo2009 1 year ago
@admacdo2009 WHAT???
Drivinfast247 10 months ago
@Drivinfast247 "Archer's paradox" isn't the arrow bending. It's the departure difference between where the arrow is pointed while in the bow, and where it ends up in the target. In order for the arrow to hit the target, it points away from it. THAT is archers paradox.
admacdo2009 10 months ago
@admacdo2009 I have no idea how I commented on this. I think I watched a diff. video before and was reading some stupid comments. But thank you for the info.
Drivinfast247 10 months ago
@admacdo2009 ...and it is staggering how many people get that wrong.
Even some COACHES don't seem to understand that the paradox is simply the arrow not pointing where it goes.
The bend plays a vital part in that, of course, but it is not the paradox.
thirteenfingers 10 months ago
the best archer in mexico !!!! i admire him !!!!
micompu 1 year ago
no wonder it takes some time to become an efficient archer,
finding the right arrow to your bow is crucial.
odacir64 1 year ago
lol looks like a cartoon arrow
aR3DF0Xa 1 year ago
The "Archers Paradox" is not only at a recurve or compound bow, you get it by Longbows aswell. Sometimes even more, because the string hits the nock not even due to the big grip without a resting point for the arrow. The arrow bows more if you shoot over your handback and the paradoxon makes the arrow fly more accurate then, so its nothing bad.
000000AEA000000 1 year ago
@000000AEA000000 Wut about short bows? cuz i use one.
penutk 1 year ago
Have you ever noticed anytime you see arrow movement like that it is from finger shooting? And usually from a recurve? This is a great shot...watch as her string is moving side to side. You cannot get truly straight string travel by shooting fingers, that is why compounds have cutout risers and you generally use a release; it allows straight string travel, thus straight arrow flight. This is simply the arrow reacting to what the string is making it do.
jimmyp7162 2 years ago
@jimmyp7162 According to what I read from another video it can also be "the archers paradox" which is "to do with the spine of the shaft in relation to the poundage of the bow" I'm still learning about archery. but it does seem to make sense that the rigidity of the arrow in combination with the poundage would make a difference.
mattxr2i 2 years ago
Actually, you don't have straight arrow flight in compound bows either, it's simple physics. What happens is that with the compound bow, the arrow flexes in a vertical pattern, as opposed to the horizontal pattern of the recurve bow. That's why compound rests can be adjusted for stiffness, much like to the effect of a plunger button on a recurve.
rrrcorvesco 1 year ago
I've seen a physics video explaining how archers paradox is actually the arrow storing energy by using the wobbling movement. When released, the arrow is accelerating up to it's peak speed and holds it for a great distance. The reason why is the quick vibration in the arrow you see in this video.
slavestothemind 2 years ago
not all arrows do that that exaggerated hunting arrows are more stiff because they have to withstand impact comp arrows dont there lighter and more flexible.
jbm4551 2 years ago
pup wow all arrows do that no matter how fast the bow is
zmann2121 2 years ago
It seems that the arrow can't take the acceleration given by the string and start's to wobble ?
Pupixario 2 years ago
All arrows do that. Thats why arrows are spined to the weight of the bow so it doesnt brake.
fusionstar916 2 years ago
This is why a release aid is easier to be accurate, fingers let the string roll off to one side. Finger shooters that are accurate have excellent form and the perfect taylored setup just for them.
SoundsFantastic 2 years ago
Hey guys, this us Juan Rene Serrano (MEX) shooting and believe me he has one of the best bow tunings out there. He is a top world archer and this is one of the best bow tunings out there. So what we see here is perfectly fine for recurve archery.
centerdenis 2 years ago
You don't correct it. That's exactly what it is supposed to look like. This is good arrow flight. You have to have the right spine arrow for the weight of the bow and the arrow length to get the correct cycling as seen here.
lloydsboat 3 years ago
Yes!...... you don't correct it but you do compensate for it by tuning, getting the arrows 'node' points ( the points about which the arrow oscillates) to travel in a straight line, Ignoring the vibration and concentrating on the general direction
roythearcher 3 years ago
Archers Paradox is necessary to allow the fletchings (feathers) to pass the riser (bow) these are well tuned arrows that are well set up to allow nice clearance.
ZenArcherUSMC 2 years ago
ohhh. so this is archer's paradox. BUT HOW THE HECK DO I CORRECT IT!!!!!
Alchrat 3 years ago
its good when that happends, but it doesnt happen with a release...it only happends when u shoot with a glove, fingerguard, or fingers
dasexybeastboi 2 years ago