@Alaskrab Now I may know why you have to bash salmon farming. Is it to hide your Alaska so called wild salmon? Want Wild? Alaska Seafood Processing creates dead zones
September 28, 2011
Trident Seafoods Corp. to Pay $2.5 Million to Resolve Clean Water Act Violations and Spend More Than $30 Million to Upgrade Processing PlantsSettlement to reduce discharges of seafood...
@Alaskrab Why not just be proud of what Alaska does to keep you working. This is just a small part of Alaska farming, but for a start Google this for your self, PRINCE WILLIAM SOUND AQUACULTURE CORPORATION 2011 HATCHERY RETURN FORECAST. The info is out there. Cherry Picking from you does not work for me.
@patemccormick07 I'll leave that comment up for sure. It will help us in our court case when we charge Alaska interests with illegal market tampering and protectionism.
@patemccormick07 I feel it is a good thing we have a Canadian like " Vivian Krause' who is in to research. Look for her interviews on Youtube. American foundations have payed over $90 million to promote so called wild Alaskan over farmed. Why didn't these foundations put any money to enviromental action in the Gulf of Mexico, on the eastren seaboard or the Alaskan coast? But , as the Watergate-era Deep throat source once counselled, follow the money.
Kudos to all of the posts by Alaskrab. The rest of you are ignorant with missinformation and don't know what you're talking about. Do your research. Alaskan salmon hatcheries are nothing like salmon farms.
@missjlkrauss What do you feed your hatchery fish Miss? Are they not held in net pens for up to 12 months? Did you not feed you salmon with tainted wheat in your feed pellets a couple of years ago, and did not recall the feed, letting your tainted salmon go out in the wild? It looks like Alaska can do what ever they want. Screw the rest of us.
@missjlkrauss It's 2010. All the record salmon returns are in the south coast of BC...right beside salmon farms. Things that make you go hmmmm?
Alaska hatcheries are very much like salmon farms - human cultured fish intended for human consumption. But maybe your right - it's less risky to the environment if you contain them in cages (aka farming) rather than releasing them into the ocean to out-compete with real wild salmon (aka ranching).
Gotbait, are you serious? I'll bet after you see the answer, you'll have wished you thought about it before hitting 'Post Comment'.
The answer is; this year about 1.5 billion Alaska salmon will escape into the ocean and could potentially spread disease. That's because every hatchery raised fish is a potential disease carrier and most hatchery salmon is released from a net pen - and, quite ironically, called an 'escape'.
Got another brilliant question GotBrain, sorry, I mean GotBait?
Alaska hasn't been short sighted enough to introduce such dangerous practices as fish farming to her waters - out of common sense. We've seen the damage happen again and again all over the world. Farming salmon in the ocean is just blatant stupidity. Find a way to do it on land without messing with the wild fish and I'm all for it. Farmed fish can't hold a candle to our wild fish as far as price goes...
Alaskrab: but your not doing it just on land. You are putting them in pens in the ocean and feeding them the same or similar food How is that different ? Are your hatchery fish treated before release ?
Thank you Gardenmaker - exactly my point. There seems to be a "zero impact" expectation for salmon farmers, but everyone else who cultures salmon can do what ever they want. Alaska farms billions of salmon - all in the ocean - not on land.
I'll answer your question (for Alaskrab) - if they have fish sick, yes, they do treat with medication. But, I have heard that in order to save money, sometimes they don't treat and just release the sick fish into the ocean...nice.
So I touched a nerve huh? Pictures say a thousand words, so little words are required here. The fact is: there are salmon farms in Alaska (you may call them "ranches", but that's still a farm).
And what is this "hatcheries do no damage" garbage. Everything has an impact. The only way you would believe "zero impact" was if you can't read. If you're interested (which I doubt you are), then look up the name "Jan Konigsberg" and see what impacts are being felt in Alaska.
Alaska isn't sticking Atlantic Salmon in her waters. We aren't introducing new diseases, we aren't having sea lice problems. Our wild stocks are continuing to grow in areas where there are hatcheries...You're trying to compare apples to oranges man. Ranching - farming...whatever. It seems to me that you're just looking for some shit to stir up. People in Alaska aren't complaining about hatcheries - or fish farming for that matter.
If you actually work with the hatcheries in Alaska, then you should know more about how the salmon are raised. 1.5 billion are raised on the same feed as farmed salmon and also kept in net pens (the same net pens pictured in the video) until being released.
But your right, there is a big difference - whereas farmed salmon are kept separate from wild salmon, Alaska's ranched salmon are released to compete for limited food in the ocean. You should be ashamed!
Fish farming is raising fish in pens from birth to harvesting. Fish are raised in pens like chickens, fed grain, antibiotics and chemicals.
Alaskan hatcheries are NOT fish farming. Fry are released to wild and grow to maturity just like wild salmon. The fish in the pens you see are broodstock. They are captured after their return, not raised there. Big difference!
As a fisherman who also works with these hatcheries I know this video to be a lie! Thank you for shitting on my livelihood!
actually, you couldn't be more wrong. i work at an alaskan salmon hatchery, one of the largest ones in alaska. the salmon are kept in the net pins for 11 weeks and are fed the same diet they would be getting in a wild stream. the reason they spend time in them is to undergo imprinting, which is memorizing fresh water, something every pacific salmon goes through. you're 100% wrong. so thanks for telling lies. all alaskan salmon are 100% wild not matter what unlike that canadian rubish.
Your Salmon are hand picked for spawning, smolts are raised in plastic trays, fed pellets, put in net pens, spilled into the open ocean, become feed competitors to natural wild, and a large % of your ranched feed sealions that are overwelming the wild. Did I mention your fry are fed pellets? Truck loads head north every day.
The Alaskan seafood industry reportedly dumps 1.5 million metric tonnes of untreated fish waste into the ocean every year. In contrast, fish waste from processing farmed salmon is used to make fish-based fertilizer.
The David Suzuki Foundation participated in the "Go Wild" campaign based in Minneapolis, Minn. The stated purpose of the campaign was "to break the farmed fish habit" so that wild fish will be more widely distributed.
the Moore Foundation had changed the stated titles and purposes of at least four grants, including the one to SeaWeb. The title of a $453,000 grant to the Coastal Alliance for Aquaculture Reform was changed from "Farmed and Dangerous Markets Campaign" to "Aquaculture Education Campaign."
The Moore Foundation is the major source of funding for sea lice research by environmental organizations in British Columbia. SeaWeb publicized sea lice research by the David Suzuki Foundation during the time that SeaWeb was funded to "shift consumer and retailer demand away from farmed salmon." Alexandra Morton and John Volpe are profiled at SeaWeb as photographers.
VANCOUVER, BRITISH COLUMBIA -- Eighteen prominent scientists and researchers say there is no question that sea lice from fish farms are lethal to wild salmon, no evidence to the contrary and a need for greater protection.
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@Alaskrab Now I may know why you have to bash salmon farming. Is it to hide your Alaska so called wild salmon? Want Wild? Alaska Seafood Processing creates dead zones
September 28, 2011
Trident Seafoods Corp. to Pay $2.5 Million to Resolve Clean Water Act Violations and Spend More Than $30 Million to Upgrade Processing PlantsSettlement to reduce discharges of seafood...
Folkboat11 5 months ago
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@Alaskrab Why not just be proud of what Alaska does to keep you working. This is just a small part of Alaska farming, but for a start Google this for your self, PRINCE WILLIAM SOUND AQUACULTURE CORPORATION 2011 HATCHERY RETURN FORECAST. The info is out there. Cherry Picking from you does not work for me.
Folkboat11 10 months ago
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According to 2010 in-season estimates PWSAC salmon accounted for 72 percent of the ex-vessel value of the Sound’s common property salmon fisheries.
• According to preliminary 2009 data PWSAC salmon accounted for 64 percent of the ex-vessel value of the Sound’s common property salmon fisheries.
• Nearly 51 million PWSAC salmon were harvested in the Sound’s common property salmon fishery in 2010. Wild eh.
Folkboat11 10 months ago
canadians are retarded
patemccormick07 1 year ago
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@patemccormick07 "canadians are retarded" Best complinent I have had all day. Sucks when your industry is under question and scrutiny isn't it Pate.
Folkboat11 1 year ago
@patemccormick07 We can read through the U.S. propaganda scheme.
Folkboat11 1 year ago
@patemccormick07 I'll leave that comment up for sure. It will help us in our court case when we charge Alaska interests with illegal market tampering and protectionism.
schmarly2007 1 year ago
@patemccormick07 Americans import 90% of their seafood....who's retarded??
AlaskaRanchedSalmon 1 year ago
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@patemccormick07 I feel it is a good thing we have a Canadian like " Vivian Krause' who is in to research. Look for her interviews on Youtube. American foundations have payed over $90 million to promote so called wild Alaskan over farmed. Why didn't these foundations put any money to enviromental action in the Gulf of Mexico, on the eastren seaboard or the Alaskan coast? But , as the Watergate-era Deep throat source once counselled, follow the money.
Folkboat11 5 months ago
Kudos to all of the posts by Alaskrab. The rest of you are ignorant with missinformation and don't know what you're talking about. Do your research. Alaskan salmon hatcheries are nothing like salmon farms.
missjlkrauss 1 year ago
@missjlkrauss What do you feed your hatchery fish Miss? Are they not held in net pens for up to 12 months? Did you not feed you salmon with tainted wheat in your feed pellets a couple of years ago, and did not recall the feed, letting your tainted salmon go out in the wild? It looks like Alaska can do what ever they want. Screw the rest of us.
Folkboat11 1 year ago
@missjlkrauss It's 2010. All the record salmon returns are in the south coast of BC...right beside salmon farms. Things that make you go hmmmm?
Alaska hatcheries are very much like salmon farms - human cultured fish intended for human consumption. But maybe your right - it's less risky to the environment if you contain them in cages (aka farming) rather than releasing them into the ocean to out-compete with real wild salmon (aka ranching).
schmarly2007 1 year ago 3
scmarly I have one question for you.
Q: When was the last time an Alaska Hatchery Salmon escaped it's pen and threatened to spread infection among the Native Pacific Salmon Species?
gotbait
GotBait 2 years ago
Gotbait, are you serious? I'll bet after you see the answer, you'll have wished you thought about it before hitting 'Post Comment'.
The answer is; this year about 1.5 billion Alaska salmon will escape into the ocean and could potentially spread disease. That's because every hatchery raised fish is a potential disease carrier and most hatchery salmon is released from a net pen - and, quite ironically, called an 'escape'.
Got another brilliant question GotBrain, sorry, I mean GotBait?
schmarly2007 2 years ago
Alaska hasn't been short sighted enough to introduce such dangerous practices as fish farming to her waters - out of common sense. We've seen the damage happen again and again all over the world. Farming salmon in the ocean is just blatant stupidity. Find a way to do it on land without messing with the wild fish and I'm all for it. Farmed fish can't hold a candle to our wild fish as far as price goes...
Alaskrab 2 years ago
Alaskrab: but your not doing it just on land. You are putting them in pens in the ocean and feeding them the same or similar food How is that different ? Are your hatchery fish treated before release ?
TheGardenmaker 2 years ago 3
Thank you Gardenmaker - exactly my point. There seems to be a "zero impact" expectation for salmon farmers, but everyone else who cultures salmon can do what ever they want. Alaska farms billions of salmon - all in the ocean - not on land.
I'll answer your question (for Alaskrab) - if they have fish sick, yes, they do treat with medication. But, I have heard that in order to save money, sometimes they don't treat and just release the sick fish into the ocean...nice.
schmarly2007 2 years ago
You think you have an idea of what you're talking about. The reality, however, is that you do not.
People need to stay away from misinformation like this. There are no salmon farms in Alaska, and hatcheries do no damage. This kid is full of shit.
Alaskrab 2 years ago
Alaskrab;
So I touched a nerve huh? Pictures say a thousand words, so little words are required here. The fact is: there are salmon farms in Alaska (you may call them "ranches", but that's still a farm).
And what is this "hatcheries do no damage" garbage. Everything has an impact. The only way you would believe "zero impact" was if you can't read. If you're interested (which I doubt you are), then look up the name "Jan Konigsberg" and see what impacts are being felt in Alaska.
schmarly2007 2 years ago 2
Alaska isn't sticking Atlantic Salmon in her waters. We aren't introducing new diseases, we aren't having sea lice problems. Our wild stocks are continuing to grow in areas where there are hatcheries...You're trying to compare apples to oranges man. Ranching - farming...whatever. It seems to me that you're just looking for some shit to stir up. People in Alaska aren't complaining about hatcheries - or fish farming for that matter.
Alaskrab 2 years ago
@Alaskrab Happy to see you planting krabs dip shit. Would you like to threaten me here my little huggy man?
Folkboat11 1 month ago
AKphantom (wow, scary name dude);
If you actually work with the hatcheries in Alaska, then you should know more about how the salmon are raised. 1.5 billion are raised on the same feed as farmed salmon and also kept in net pens (the same net pens pictured in the video) until being released.
But your right, there is a big difference - whereas farmed salmon are kept separate from wild salmon, Alaska's ranched salmon are released to compete for limited food in the ocean. You should be ashamed!
schmarly2007 3 years ago
Fish farming is raising fish in pens from birth to harvesting. Fish are raised in pens like chickens, fed grain, antibiotics and chemicals.
Alaskan hatcheries are NOT fish farming. Fry are released to wild and grow to maturity just like wild salmon. The fish in the pens you see are broodstock. They are captured after their return, not raised there. Big difference!
As a fisherman who also works with these hatcheries I know this video to be a lie! Thank you for shitting on my livelihood!
AKphantom 3 years ago
Reply posted above
schmarly2007 3 years ago
Your shitting on my livlihood or is that different cause your an American and I'm just a Canadian ??
TheMyfancypants 2 years ago 15
Kaiarongstad, when you pull your feet out of your mouth can you please define what a farmed salmon is for us?
grilseking 3 years ago
actually, you couldn't be more wrong. i work at an alaskan salmon hatchery, one of the largest ones in alaska. the salmon are kept in the net pins for 11 weeks and are fed the same diet they would be getting in a wild stream. the reason they spend time in them is to undergo imprinting, which is memorizing fresh water, something every pacific salmon goes through. you're 100% wrong. so thanks for telling lies. all alaskan salmon are 100% wild not matter what unlike that canadian rubish.
kaiarongstad 3 years ago
Your Salmon are hand picked for spawning, smolts are raised in plastic trays, fed pellets, put in net pens, spilled into the open ocean, become feed competitors to natural wild, and a large % of your ranched feed sealions that are overwelming the wild. Did I mention your fry are fed pellets? Truck loads head north every day.
Folkboat11 3 years ago
Reply above.
schmarly2007 3 years ago
Schmarly, when are you gonna post something new? One request... no techno!
grilseking 3 years ago
perfect video but ı want learn this music name.?
Can you give me or say?
Thank you...
sanliaks 4 years ago
Say It Right - Nelly Furtado feat. Timbaland. Thanks for the comp. on the video.
schmarly2007 4 years ago
The Alaskan seafood industry reportedly dumps 1.5 million metric tonnes of untreated fish waste into the ocean every year. In contrast, fish waste from processing farmed salmon is used to make fish-based fertilizer.
Folkboat11 4 years ago 7
The David Suzuki Foundation participated in the "Go Wild" campaign based in Minneapolis, Minn. The stated purpose of the campaign was "to break the farmed fish habit" so that wild fish will be more widely distributed.
Folkboat11 4 years ago
the Moore Foundation had changed the stated titles and purposes of at least four grants, including the one to SeaWeb. The title of a $453,000 grant to the Coastal Alliance for Aquaculture Reform was changed from "Farmed and Dangerous Markets Campaign" to "Aquaculture Education Campaign."
Folkboat11 4 years ago
The Moore Foundation is the major source of funding for sea lice research by environmental organizations in British Columbia. SeaWeb publicized sea lice research by the David Suzuki Foundation during the time that SeaWeb was funded to "shift consumer and retailer demand away from farmed salmon." Alexandra Morton and John Volpe are profiled at SeaWeb as photographers.
Folkboat11 4 years ago
Lice from fish farms called threat
The Associated Press
Published: September 20, 2007
Lice from fish farms called threat
VANCOUVER, BRITISH COLUMBIA -- Eighteen prominent scientists and researchers say there is no question that sea lice from fish farms are lethal to wild salmon, no evidence to the contrary and a need for greater protection.
allpoints360 4 years ago
these people also have been paid to say this from the Moore Foundation. Save the wild eat them all.
Folkboat11 4 years ago
This isn't any news. We'd known this for 30 years.
Jibbie49 4 years ago
excellent video...
darkisland 4 years ago