I think the reason why the far side of the Uncanny Valley is so disturbing is that we must assign the object to either "HUMAN" or "ROBOT." A being like C3PO is still a robot but he's cute because he ACTS like a human. He does not look like one. The very-close-to-human androids and gynoids are assigned subconsciously to "HUMAN" but seem defective in some way and we are repulsed. They're like disfigured humans not robots. We look for flaws in them but not C3PO because he doesn't even come close.
I don't think it's just about death and dying. Children have a wider and deeper uncanny valley, some just can't stand puppets, clowns or santa. Those don't resemble death, but children get even more horrified specially when such characters look at them with a smile without blinking for too long. Oh yeah, without blinking for too long = death. Interesting.
I think the uncanny valley is COOL. The more human they are the better. I think it'd be cool to one day see how far a humanoid robot can go. I know there's the fear of robots taking over or people being robots but if you can distinguish the two I think it's fine and actually really exciting. :)
I don't understand however how well sculpted and animated 3D can be considered creepy.
Dolls where you clearly can see they aren't alive but they try to mimic humans are scary, not in the same league.
It's a bit like bad special effects from the 80's I always thought those were scary as shit when I was a kid, mostly because of how horrid they looked, guly faces etc, just like the first android in this movie.
I am one of the few people who was never frightened by the Polar Express, more proof that I am clearly from another planet. So what if it's pretty deep in the uncanny valley? I still enjoy it and it really touches my heart. I can't help but LAUGH however at all the truly creepy things that are deep in the UV. For some reason, it's so "creepy" it's FUNNY.
Did this theory exist before Emily was created? All the videos on the uncanny valley talk about her. Or is it just that Emily sparked public interest?
@GoblinXXX --> This is, for sure, a better explanation of the uncanny valley than the fear-of-death hypothesis. Nevertheless I'm tempted to point out, that the controversy as to whether we are hardwired to see faces or not is far from resolved. We may be hard-wired to pay more attention to social environment or top-heavy patterns and the experience will do the rest - we will specialize in processing faces. Just like birdwatchers specialize in bird recognition.
I dunno what this uncanny valley is all about, I like robots in pretty much any form. They're all fascinating. I'm just as scared of a big raging bear as I would be a militaristic looking robot.
the recent movie "mars needs moms" fell into the uncanny valley and as a result the movie bombed in the box office. Kids who went to go see mars needs moms felt uncomfortable and creeped out during the movie because of the facial animations, so no one wanted to bring their kids to see it.
Humans are hard wired to see faces, even when they aren't there. We see Jesus on tortillas. And we are thus hard wired to know a FAKE facial expression, and why most of these androids aren't so bad until they give one of those horrible SMILES. We'll anthropomorphize a robot that acts human in our heads, without it having to look at all human-- WALL-E and Johnny 5 are great examples of this, so stop wasting silicone on fake skin and make me a robot who can do my damn laundry.
@GoblinXXX Have you read the research Mori published about the uncanny valley in 1970? What you've said about the disparity between a real person's expressions and a humanoid robot's expressions is basically what his research was trying to prove. You should look into it, it's really quite an interesting paper.
@52hello25 I haven't read the paper, but I've read ABOUT it, and the conclusions-- I knew it was Japanese research, which is why it amazes me that the JAPANESE persist in creating these horrible, blank-eyed monstrosities. My guess is that their ultimate goal are sex robots, having recently created the artificial vagina to go in them. They should really look to the artwork of Hajime Sorayama and forget fake skin, and work on ways to keep chrome polished! ;)
@GoblinXXX I agree with you about sex robots being the goal - I'm guessing RealDolls aren't real enough for them. Although I understand where they are going with their thought processes, I can't understand WHY they are thinking/doing this at all. What is the point of having robot sex when you can have real, human sex? Have people become so greedy and antisocial that they'd rather have sex with something they can abuse and throw away, rather than an actual, feeling person? Can someone explain?
@52hello25 Frankly, I think RealDolls are for necrophiles too lazy to dig up an actual corpse, but in answer to your (probably rhetorical) question, I'd point out that the same culture invented virtual pets and robot puppies, too.
Why do research? I am autistic. Autistic people can't read emotions on peoples faces, so it's hard to tell the difference between a fake smile or a genuine smile. Thus, the uncanny valley doesn't really make autistic people feel uncomfortable and if it does, then it's not until the very very bottom of the valley.
It's funny that a Japanese scientist came up with this theory, since the Japanese are the ones that DON'T SEEM TO GET IT, and keep inventing all these damn creepy ass replicants.
It was interesting to note my physical reaction to each clip. I got a weird feeling in my stomach when we started going lower into the valley. Instinct is interesting.
The uncanny valley is a hypothesis that has never been proven or disproven. It is an appealing concept but there is nothing supporting it.
Personally I don't find any of these machines particularly scary, they are simply bad attempts at realism: If they were people, they would be ugly, so we find them ugly - there is no "theory" needed as to why that is, it's obvious.
Play video games like Heavy Rain or Crysis 2, the characters there are very realistic, yet not creepy at all.
We actually had a lecture about this in my 3D modeling class for the video games program. L.A. NOIRE was an example, but it was noted that it isn't quite as creepy as these robots since video games have yet to reach a point of realism where it's disturbing quite yet, Crysis 2 included. They aren't anatomically correct, though the texturing is very detailed, I find some of the mouthing they do somewhat unnatural. They didn't reach the perfect realism at the end of the chart.
The first statement is false. He did not say that it's "creepy" when they look and act "too much" like humans, but rather when they ALMOST do, a.k.a. not quite there, thus falling in this in-between gap which is the uncanny valley...
@StAnger220 The animatronic aliens (let's just pretend we don't care about the fantasy of them being real things) are actually more true to life in terms of visuality and movement... which in turn makes you go "shit that's real."
I love robots. I can't wait until they are a regular part of life. However I prefer androids which are humanoid but are not indistinguishable from humans. When you can't tell a robot from a human I think "Battlestar Galactica" and "The Terminator". However I can see from the Asian androids that such robots are coming soon.
It doesn't seem right in our human brains, because we're so intricately programmed to regonize the most subtle of facial expressions. Robotics can't yet replicate the speed and presicion of human expression, so looking at something that apears human yet has that "dead eye" look about it makes us feel uncomfortable. Human body language expresses itself all the way down to the diameter of our pupils, something you'd be hard pressed to replicate.
I'm apparently not affected by the Uncanny Valley Affect. (In fact, sometimes the opposite happens.) The more realistic a robot is, the more I like it. The only time I experience this sort of uncanny valley is when I see myself in a mirror or a picture. Sometimes I see myself as more of a crude imitation of a human, not a real person. Of course, most of the time this doesn't happen, and my reflection doesn't creep me out.
@LWillRuleTheWorld Ok my reflection used to creep me out too, but I experimented with my looks until I found one that "reflected" my real self. I am affected by the Uncanny Valley though... When everything becomes the same, how do you tell apart what is real and what is not?
Things are weird when they look different than how we expect them to look.
That's all there is to it. People are throwing around the 'uncanny valley' as if it's some secret and mysterious realm.
You'll get the same effect looking at a human missing a limb, or is mentally and physically handicapped, or just anyone who is different from expectations. Even if someone has a different skin color than you, though obviously most robots are further removed from your expectations than these examples.
Polar Express? UNCANNY? What is wrong with you guys? Not uncanny at all! I am easily able to distinguish that dude from a real human. Not creepy at all.
THIS! This is why i enjoy cartoons so much... why when i play world of warcraft or other video games i NEVER have or will ask for (more realistic) stuff in my games... i dont WANT the creepy fuckin uncanny valley lol
We find them creepy because the facial animations are not close to perfect yet and they're really unexpected looking. If you look at things that are motion captured such as LA Noir (the new video game) and compare them to games which don't use it but still look realistic such as Mass Effect 2, the difference is clear.
i think we find them creepy cuz they look so human that we expect human qualities from them. so when they let us down, we shun them. They also do not die, so thats why they evoke fears of mortality. you can never get the eyes right. there the gateway to the soul. the eyes are never right.....
@Jsh3281 Yeah like, I wonder what the exact point is where we start to realize something's "wrong." The scariest things to me are things that can be perceived as normal but your instinct tells you it's not.
They should exploit the uncanny valley for a horror movie. How creepy would it be if one of these realistic human but not quite human robotic or CGI humanoids were going around murdering real people?
At the bottom of the valley lies something so creepy that you have to like it. It's like disturbing things in the middle of non-horror games. Giygas, although overstated, is like that to me. >:)
Sorry, but the image metrics clip should be representative of the bottom of the valley, certainly not at a spot almost at the top on the other side. It's close to coming back up, and maybe as far as starting the climb, but it's down there pretty far as to most eyes it's not that obviously CG, but there an obvious creepy aspect about it. Polar express belongs on the stylized side of the valley, pretty far up as it is still obviously CG, but also very pleasing to the eye.
"A robot stuck inside the uncanny valley is no longer being judged by the standards of a robot doing a passable job at pretending to be human, but is instead being judged by the standards of a human doing a terrible job at acting like a normal person."
Getting out of the valley is just a matter of solving problems until you're out (which is why trying has, so far, sucked up as much money as anyone's been willing to put into it). The consistent problem with all the speaking Japanese robots shown here is that their mouths don't more anything like correctly for the speech sounds, which is why they look so much worse than, for instance, the characters in the Final Fantasy movie.
The new roller skating babies animation is getting pretty close to the good side of the valley. Even as perfect as it is, surprises me just how many people get creeped out by it.
@ameridat That's the point: it falls into Uncanny Valley for so many people, including me. Of course watching it a million times I may get used to it... But the point is the first 999,999 times I see it, with my unavoidable Uncanny Valley reaction.
CGI doesn't irk me at all, really, but when I see those robots that have just a slight something wrong with them, the "yuck" comes in to play. When I see or hear that something is slightly off in movement or animation for example, it seems so wrong. Stop motion animation, if it's shot at enough frames per minute to look almost right, can be super freaky, because there's still that little something wrong. Anyone ever seen the video for the Rain (Supa Dupa Fly), by Missy Elliot? It's like that.
We will never be able to create a truly human like robot. The reason why most "humanoid" robots look like theyre dead is simple because they are not alive. We should stop focusing on give them skin and muscles and rather spend the time money and effort on developing better artificial intelligence instead of making them look like mentally retarded cockroaches.
@p99fanatic That's so true! Physical appearance and features (it's not just seeing it, it is also feeling it, touching it, sensing its movement etc.) will always have a very high risk to fall into the Uncanny Valley.
I think at some point our subconscious stops seeing "human simulation" and starts seeing "diseased human." At that point our instincts to get away from the plague carrier / crazy person kick in.
I too learned about this on NPR and now I understand why that dancing baby screensaver that was so popular in the early 90's so creped me out! I hated that baby but was fascinated by it too. Machines can be cute but robots that look too human, to me, seem like animated corpses. I haven't seen anything that I've found frightening yet but there is definitely a yuck factor.
I always noticed this effect but never had a term to frame it in. Then I heard about the "Uncanny Valley" on NPR today and said ah-ha!
To a lesser degree, I think the uncanny valley theory applies to CG animation as a whole, not just w/anthropomorphism. Ive always felt a visceral "yucky" feeling whenever Ive seen cg movies b/c the physics aren't quite right. I 1st noticed it in the 80s as a kid when cg animation started to appear. Only when cg is deliberately cartoonish is the effect mitigated.
I tend to find popular conceptions of space aliens very frightening, which I guess is how other people feel about the uncanny valley, and if these particular images disturbed me at all it's 'cause they were Japanese
Yeah, humanoids. The cliché kind with spindly bodies and huge eyes. I don't believe the Earth is being visited by extraterrestrials but idk this kind of image really gives me the creeps.
is the person at 1:50 real or a robot or 3d CGI?
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TheDJMixShow 1 week ago
I think the reason why the far side of the Uncanny Valley is so disturbing is that we must assign the object to either "HUMAN" or "ROBOT." A being like C3PO is still a robot but he's cute because he ACTS like a human. He does not look like one. The very-close-to-human androids and gynoids are assigned subconsciously to "HUMAN" but seem defective in some way and we are repulsed. They're like disfigured humans not robots. We look for flaws in them but not C3PO because he doesn't even come close.
ConstantTweeter 1 week ago
I don't think it's just about death and dying. Children have a wider and deeper uncanny valley, some just can't stand puppets, clowns or santa. Those don't resemble death, but children get even more horrified specially when such characters look at them with a smile without blinking for too long. Oh yeah, without blinking for too long = death. Interesting.
3D4Ureel 2 weeks ago
seriously was te girl on 1:53 a robot?!
beertjeslisser 4 weeks ago
@beertjeslisser Actually she was just a cgi animation.
redelman43199 4 weeks ago
@beertjeslisser No, at the beginning shes is normal then some 2D motion tracked masks kick in, nothing special.
thewaysh 2 weeks ago
Don't watch this stoned.
redelman43199 4 weeks ago
I think the uncanny valley is COOL. The more human they are the better. I think it'd be cool to one day see how far a humanoid robot can go. I know there's the fear of robots taking over or people being robots but if you can distinguish the two I think it's fine and actually really exciting. :)
bbiz20 1 month ago
FUCK ME as soon as the Halloween music started I got the chills, that fucking face... No sleep tonight
Pontus900 1 month ago
@Pontus900
I don't understand however how well sculpted and animated 3D can be considered creepy.
Dolls where you clearly can see they aren't alive but they try to mimic humans are scary, not in the same league.
It's a bit like bad special effects from the 80's I always thought those were scary as shit when I was a kid, mostly because of how horrid they looked, guly faces etc, just like the first android in this movie.
Pontus900 1 month ago
i react this way when i look at a alien picture
gin0ichimaru0tama 1 month ago
I can't stand Wall-E....Mostly because of their voices.
LikaLaruku 1 month ago
I am one of the few people who was never frightened by the Polar Express, more proof that I am clearly from another planet. So what if it's pretty deep in the uncanny valley? I still enjoy it and it really touches my heart. I can't help but LAUGH however at all the truly creepy things that are deep in the UV. For some reason, it's so "creepy" it's FUNNY.
MarissaOfUnderground 1 month ago
Oh shizz. Just saw the 1970 thing. Ignore the previous comment.
crouchisawesome 1 month ago
Did this theory exist before Emily was created? All the videos on the uncanny valley talk about her. Or is it just that Emily sparked public interest?
crouchisawesome 1 month ago
Lars and the Real Girl
rcmontecalvo 1 month ago
I didn't notice/feel it with the Polar Express, although I know a lot of people do. But that thing at 0:38 was the creepiest thing ever...
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NewAgeDirector 2 months ago
The pausing then the music is just friggin' amazing
bp56789 3 months ago
I actually loved The Polar Express
barsif1017 3 months ago
@GoblinXXX --> This is, for sure, a better explanation of the uncanny valley than the fear-of-death hypothesis. Nevertheless I'm tempted to point out, that the controversy as to whether we are hardwired to see faces or not is far from resolved. We may be hard-wired to pay more attention to social environment or top-heavy patterns and the experience will do the rest - we will specialize in processing faces. Just like birdwatchers specialize in bird recognition.
Imponderabilion 3 months ago
Reminds me of that youtube video of how they kept a severed dog's head alive.
RenegadeOfShadows 4 months ago
i think this is amazing..not weird..wtf is wrong with people..put creepy music behind anything and of course itll be creepy.
kiball09 4 months ago
down very down lays .... Japanese Crazy Dog waiting to rape youre children
MultiTilburg013 4 months ago
"Eh? Eh?"
Splodey 4 months ago
Throughout this video, I thought "Oh, that's not too uncann--OH MY GOD! KILL IT WITH FIRE"
theJMBgamer 5 months ago 26
The end is the scariest part. I have to go to sleep now too... D:
GameBuilder15 5 months ago
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matheussousuke 4 months ago
@GameBuilder15 well, me too. But if I dream, I think I would just @#%* her.
matheussousuke 4 months ago
Very interesting phenomenon.
Niridur 5 months ago
I'm scared.
GameBuilder15 5 months ago
NIGHTMARE FUEL
NIGHTMARE FUEL EVERYWHERE!
HaLfGiRl65 5 months ago 6
I dunno what this uncanny valley is all about, I like robots in pretty much any form. They're all fascinating. I'm just as scared of a big raging bear as I would be a militaristic looking robot.
11889music 6 months ago
1:05 - 1:12 I got a boner from that robot.
Maybe for the voice. I'm not joking.
BlankoGatillo 6 months ago 2
Not scared
deyan777 6 months ago
@deyan777 It's not about being scarred, it's basic bodily function.
Psychstix 6 months ago
When there isn't many human like features in a robot, we focus on those few and we like it.
When there are many human like features, we focus on the exceptions and we get freaked out.
That's my basic understanding of uncanny valley, anyway.
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0:38 - 0:45 - KILL IT! KILL IT WITH FIRE!
mjgc8755 6 months ago
I cracked up at :38 ... omfg ahhahahah
WhiteHawkPROD 6 months ago
what's the one at 1:06? that one was actually pretty fucking cool
ishouldplayzelda 6 months ago
@ishouldplayzelda no thats scary oh god oh god OH FUCKING GOD!
Scarredgraymouse 6 months ago
I feel fantastic
Camphibious 6 months ago
the recent movie "mars needs moms" fell into the uncanny valley and as a result the movie bombed in the box office. Kids who went to go see mars needs moms felt uncomfortable and creeped out during the movie because of the facial animations, so no one wanted to bring their kids to see it.
ihmen 6 months ago
What is that robot's name at 1:12 ?
MuratArkin 6 months ago
0:37 Ahh. Don't worry. That's just Britney Spears...
vastspace91 7 months ago
@vastspace91 thats what i thought XD
radonas 6 months ago
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I really don't understand...
XxHeartagramHeavenxX 7 months ago
Humans are hard wired to see faces, even when they aren't there. We see Jesus on tortillas. And we are thus hard wired to know a FAKE facial expression, and why most of these androids aren't so bad until they give one of those horrible SMILES. We'll anthropomorphize a robot that acts human in our heads, without it having to look at all human-- WALL-E and Johnny 5 are great examples of this, so stop wasting silicone on fake skin and make me a robot who can do my damn laundry.
GoblinXXX 8 months ago 80
@GoblinXXX Have you read the research Mori published about the uncanny valley in 1970? What you've said about the disparity between a real person's expressions and a humanoid robot's expressions is basically what his research was trying to prove. You should look into it, it's really quite an interesting paper.
52hello25 3 months ago
@52hello25 I haven't read the paper, but I've read ABOUT it, and the conclusions-- I knew it was Japanese research, which is why it amazes me that the JAPANESE persist in creating these horrible, blank-eyed monstrosities. My guess is that their ultimate goal are sex robots, having recently created the artificial vagina to go in them. They should really look to the artwork of Hajime Sorayama and forget fake skin, and work on ways to keep chrome polished! ;)
GoblinXXX 3 months ago
@GoblinXXX I agree with you about sex robots being the goal - I'm guessing RealDolls aren't real enough for them. Although I understand where they are going with their thought processes, I can't understand WHY they are thinking/doing this at all. What is the point of having robot sex when you can have real, human sex? Have people become so greedy and antisocial that they'd rather have sex with something they can abuse and throw away, rather than an actual, feeling person? Can someone explain?
52hello25 3 months ago
@52hello25 Frankly, I think RealDolls are for necrophiles too lazy to dig up an actual corpse, but in answer to your (probably rhetorical) question, I'd point out that the same culture invented virtual pets and robot puppies, too.
GoblinXXX 3 months ago
@GoblinXXX
Unless your autistic, then it makes no difference.
TotallyGeekage 3 weeks ago
@TotallyGeekage
Do your research.
MrOpenGamer 2 weeks ago
@MrOpenGamer
Why do research? I am autistic. Autistic people can't read emotions on peoples faces, so it's hard to tell the difference between a fake smile or a genuine smile. Thus, the uncanny valley doesn't really make autistic people feel uncomfortable and if it does, then it's not until the very very bottom of the valley.
TotallyGeekage 2 weeks ago
It's funny that a Japanese scientist came up with this theory, since the Japanese are the ones that DON'T SEEM TO GET IT, and keep inventing all these damn creepy ass replicants.
GoblinXXX 8 months ago 6
It was interesting to note my physical reaction to each clip. I got a weird feeling in my stomach when we started going lower into the valley. Instinct is interesting.
anit0523 8 months ago 4
HELLO DAAAAAVE
pidgin 8 months ago
Holy Shit, the music at the end of the video (starts at 2:22) seems so familiar, any ideas where it is from?
HoctorDouse 8 months ago
@HoctorDouse It's the theme from Halloween.
jupiknight 8 months ago
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deciett 7 months ago
@HoctorDouse Halloween series, michael myer's theme song.
deciett 7 months ago
@HoctorDouse Halloween.
Xolin11 1 month ago
What about Avatar? did that perfected mocap?
Johnlindsey289 8 months ago
@Johnlindsey289
In avatar, the people are blue. If they were flesh colored I think I would be creeped out.
misterhed 7 months ago 4
The uncanny valley isn't necessarily a bad thing. The whole concept of horror movies and especially zombies depends on it.
Gnometower 8 months ago
O_o
AplG7Rocks 8 months ago
...and they have a plan.
Clawf1ng3r 8 months ago
In robotics we are currently in the uncanny valley, it will just be a few more years until we are there.
torrentz333 8 months ago
lol @ ending :D
Intosia 8 months ago
What's the robot at 1:09?
DukeOnkled 9 months ago
I actually think all of these are amazing.
DethExplosion 9 months ago
whats the one with angelina jolie?
TheAsianOptimist 9 months ago
@TheAsianOptimist its from beowulf. they animated her but it looks amazingly real. it seems like half-real and halff-animated but im not sure.
pingpongrox333 9 months ago
1:13 KILL IT WITH FIRE!!
TKDLawliet21 9 months ago
The uncanny valley is a hypothesis that has never been proven or disproven. It is an appealing concept but there is nothing supporting it.
Personally I don't find any of these machines particularly scary, they are simply bad attempts at realism: If they were people, they would be ugly, so we find them ugly - there is no "theory" needed as to why that is, it's obvious.
Play video games like Heavy Rain or Crysis 2, the characters there are very realistic, yet not creepy at all.
SuckItLily 9 months ago
@SuckItLily
We actually had a lecture about this in my 3D modeling class for the video games program. L.A. NOIRE was an example, but it was noted that it isn't quite as creepy as these robots since video games have yet to reach a point of realism where it's disturbing quite yet, Crysis 2 included. They aren't anatomically correct, though the texturing is very detailed, I find some of the mouthing they do somewhat unnatural. They didn't reach the perfect realism at the end of the chart.
MuscularCow 9 months ago
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Mars Needs Moms REALLY goes down that valley
marcster1994 9 months ago
The same reason people fear these robots is actually the same reason why people fear cripples and retarded.
MrCalhoun 10 months ago 4
remember Terrahawk? that puppet dolls creep me out..
rockabrilia 10 months ago
The first statement is false. He did not say that it's "creepy" when they look and act "too much" like humans, but rather when they ALMOST do, a.k.a. not quite there, thus falling in this in-between gap which is the uncanny valley...
Fix this shit, it's misinformative.
Zeanu 10 months ago
wtf
KenjiYoza 11 months ago
0.:38 - 0:45 is too far in that valley...
mjgc8755 11 months ago 32
@mjgc8755 i agree lol
LovRAngel 10 months ago
@mjgc8755 Its one of the scarier things i've ever seen...
xVxxxGhostxxxVx 2 months ago
This is why puppet Aliens look so much more creepy than CG aliens.
StAnger220 11 months ago
@StAnger220 The animatronic aliens (let's just pretend we don't care about the fantasy of them being real things) are actually more true to life in terms of visuality and movement... which in turn makes you go "shit that's real."
Zeanu 10 months ago
I love robots. I can't wait until they are a regular part of life. However I prefer androids which are humanoid but are not indistinguishable from humans. When you can't tell a robot from a human I think "Battlestar Galactica" and "The Terminator". However I can see from the Asian androids that such robots are coming soon.
spackar 11 months ago
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TheClodfather 11 months ago
I dont get it.
LuisRamirez666 11 months ago
0:58 yay so cool :D
MetalWonderWombat 11 months ago
0:58 yay so cool :D
MetalWonderWombat 11 months ago
Read The Sandman (not the graphic novel), then Freud's article about the Uncanny Valley. That'll set ya straight.
Numguk 1 year ago
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Numguk 1 year ago
Aww, it would be nice if humanity would never manage to pass the uncanny valley....
Bauch373 1 year ago
1:13
dont look at me, dont you DARE FUCKING LOOK AT ME OR I WILL BURN YOU ALI-
oh shit, he looked at me!
AAAAHHHHHHH
trololoman9 1 year ago
It doesn't seem right in our human brains, because we're so intricately programmed to regonize the most subtle of facial expressions. Robotics can't yet replicate the speed and presicion of human expression, so looking at something that apears human yet has that "dead eye" look about it makes us feel uncomfortable. Human body language expresses itself all the way down to the diameter of our pupils, something you'd be hard pressed to replicate.
BunnaySango 1 year ago 4
I still can't tell if that woman answering the interview questions was/is a real person or not. :'O
nianymue 1 year ago
I'm apparently not affected by the Uncanny Valley Affect. (In fact, sometimes the opposite happens.) The more realistic a robot is, the more I like it. The only time I experience this sort of uncanny valley is when I see myself in a mirror or a picture. Sometimes I see myself as more of a crude imitation of a human, not a real person. Of course, most of the time this doesn't happen, and my reflection doesn't creep me out.
LWillRuleTheWorld 1 year ago
@LWillRuleTheWorld Ok my reflection used to creep me out too, but I experimented with my looks until I found one that "reflected" my real self. I am affected by the Uncanny Valley though... When everything becomes the same, how do you tell apart what is real and what is not?
nianymue 1 year ago
The head of the japanese girl robot next to a glass of water was the most creepy imo. Because is looked almost like a living head chopped off.
Molkomuse 1 year ago
Things are weird when they look different than how we expect them to look.
That's all there is to it. People are throwing around the 'uncanny valley' as if it's some secret and mysterious realm.
You'll get the same effect looking at a human missing a limb, or is mentally and physically handicapped, or just anyone who is different from expectations. Even if someone has a different skin color than you, though obviously most robots are further removed from your expectations than these examples.
smokeyflea 1 year ago
the end was creepy as fuck
jonted1 1 year ago
A'la CGI Jeff Bridges in Tron: Legacy.
PoisonInc 1 year ago
Polar Express? UNCANNY? What is wrong with you guys? Not uncanny at all! I am easily able to distinguish that dude from a real human. Not creepy at all.
FRURMELLL 1 year ago
1:13 I was like FFFUUUUUUUUUUUUU-
alexwars2 1 year ago
I never got the Uncanny Valley while watching the Polar Express.
CupboardNinja 1 year ago
@CupboardNinja well everyone has a different opinon
some of the stuff in there didn't give me that vibe either
beats0me 1 year ago
For me, tis the baby looking robots that scare me the most.
PinkCharmander 1 year ago
THIS! This is why i enjoy cartoons so much... why when i play world of warcraft or other video games i NEVER have or will ask for (more realistic) stuff in my games... i dont WANT the creepy fuckin uncanny valley lol
SatansMullet 1 year ago
Robert Zemeckis, that is all.
hautxtalons 1 year ago
Madre de dios! :D
Eykdran 1 year ago
We find them creepy because the facial animations are not close to perfect yet and they're really unexpected looking. If you look at things that are motion captured such as LA Noir (the new video game) and compare them to games which don't use it but still look realistic such as Mass Effect 2, the difference is clear.
unrealeck 1 year ago
i think we find them creepy cuz they look so human that we expect human qualities from them. so when they let us down, we shun them. They also do not die, so thats why they evoke fears of mortality. you can never get the eyes right. there the gateway to the soul. the eyes are never right.....
tatertots725 1 year ago
The woman talking near the end looks like a robot herself.
RCBChurch 1 year ago
@RCBChurch She's actually CG. Here's the rest of that video: /watch?v=bLiX5d3rC6o
fillabunny 1 year ago
This has always been quite interesting to me. i always wonder how we subconsciously dip into the uncanny valley.
Jsh3281 1 year ago 2
@Jsh3281 Yeah like, I wonder what the exact point is where we start to realize something's "wrong." The scariest things to me are things that can be perceived as normal but your instinct tells you it's not.
AVeryLongScreenName 1 year ago
DAMN!
Sammy96gonzalezz 1 year ago
They should exploit the uncanny valley for a horror movie. How creepy would it be if one of these realistic human but not quite human robotic or CGI humanoids were going around murdering real people?
jhhwild 1 year ago
@jhhwild dude... you may be on to something... but I have a feeling its been done before. If not, you should claim rights ASAP
nameno1elsehas 1 year ago
@jhhwild if it was all done well, id go see that.
noisydope 1 year ago
This wouldn't be a problem if we'd just stop trying to make robots look human.
OnlyToComment 1 year ago
Maybe if they could close their mouths, they'd looked less creepy...
Also: Go Keepon! Woo! Dance your li'l heart out.
rubino83 1 year ago
they're scary because they look like reanimated corpses.
kevkevinkev 1 year ago
emilly is still the best cg ive ever seen
undeadelite 1 year ago
could someone tell me the name of the third robot on Mori's graph?? I'd like to research about it. Thank youu,
1GreenEmerald 1 year ago
... eh eh.
qwertyqeys 1 year ago
At the bottom of the valley lies something so creepy that you have to like it. It's like disturbing things in the middle of non-horror games. Giygas, although overstated, is like that to me. >:)
qwertyqeys 1 year ago
The last still image was funny. Epic music.
thphaca 1 year ago
1:47 CGI
autopsiemorga 1 year ago
Wait, that chick at 1:46 wasn't a robot, was she?
BTW where can I find the robot at 1:07 ?
BarfFromSpaceballs 1 year ago 2
@BarfFromSpaceballs She was an very high quality model, like the ones you see in lastest videogames cutscenes.
verothix 1 year ago
Sorry, but the image metrics clip should be representative of the bottom of the valley, certainly not at a spot almost at the top on the other side. It's close to coming back up, and maybe as far as starting the climb, but it's down there pretty far as to most eyes it's not that obviously CG, but there an obvious creepy aspect about it. Polar express belongs on the stylized side of the valley, pretty far up as it is still obviously CG, but also very pleasing to the eye.
Criterion515 1 year ago
ImageMetrics?
CaptiveMotion is a much higher quality animation studio for high fidelity facial motion capture
HappyRogueStatus 1 year ago
"A robot stuck inside the uncanny valley is no longer being judged by the standards of a robot doing a passable job at pretending to be human, but is instead being judged by the standards of a human doing a terrible job at acting like a normal person."
Flup2 1 year ago 66
@Flup2 Haha, yeah, I love that line from Wikipedia.
Zeanu 10 months ago
@Flup2 This is the right answer.
What was all that bullshit about being afraid of dying? What the hell does that have to do with robots?
egdeltur666 10 months ago
@egdeltur666 A crazy robot revolt?
PokemonTrainerAriel 6 months ago
@Flup2 who said that? that's brilliant
EuMilo 8 months ago
oh hey, mass effect soundtrack! :D
Ren95 1 year ago
Getting out of the valley is just a matter of solving problems until you're out (which is why trying has, so far, sucked up as much money as anyone's been willing to put into it). The consistent problem with all the speaking Japanese robots shown here is that their mouths don't more anything like correctly for the speech sounds, which is why they look so much worse than, for instance, the characters in the Final Fantasy movie.
evensgrey 1 year ago
1:16 LOL
Eh eh
WhiteDragon103 1 year ago
KILL IT!KILL IT WITH FIRE! NOW~THEY ARE TAKING OVER THE WORLD YIAHHHHHH!!!!!!!!
arren85 1 year ago
What's the robot at 1:14?
It's AWESOME!
EH EH.
AeroWinds2k9 1 year ago
They look like moving corpses.
EmperorChupacabra 1 year ago 3
the Michael Myers theme song adds to the creepyness =]
chAse734 1 year ago
0:46 (insert Britney Spears joke here)
RogerRabid 1 year ago
The new standard in sex dolls
WyattLanz 1 year ago
:42 is my ringtone, I thought my phone was ringing, haha.
momoandmiz 1 year ago 2
GREAT VIDEO!!!!! Now with the movie AVATAR, i learned a lot, of how the did it, to ge out of the uncanny valley.
pepeantonioo 1 year ago
Great vid, and idea for a series/channel. But I wanted it to be longer!
themanamp 1 year ago
god that's creepy.
bellchap 1 year ago
The new roller skating babies animation is getting pretty close to the good side of the valley. Even as perfect as it is, surprises me just how many people get creeped out by it.
ameridat 1 year ago
@ameridat That's the point: it falls into Uncanny Valley for so many people, including me. Of course watching it a million times I may get used to it... But the point is the first 999,999 times I see it, with my unavoidable Uncanny Valley reaction.
luk0dab 1 year ago
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tellyisrubbish 1 year ago
CGI doesn't irk me at all, really, but when I see those robots that have just a slight something wrong with them, the "yuck" comes in to play. When I see or hear that something is slightly off in movement or animation for example, it seems so wrong. Stop motion animation, if it's shot at enough frames per minute to look almost right, can be super freaky, because there's still that little something wrong. Anyone ever seen the video for the Rain (Supa Dupa Fly), by Missy Elliot? It's like that.
xxspaceoddityxx 1 year ago
We will never be able to create a truly human like robot. The reason why most "humanoid" robots look like theyre dead is simple because they are not alive. We should stop focusing on give them skin and muscles and rather spend the time money and effort on developing better artificial intelligence instead of making them look like mentally retarded cockroaches.
p99fanatic 1 year ago 5
@p99fanatic That's so true! Physical appearance and features (it's not just seeing it, it is also feeling it, touching it, sensing its movement etc.) will always have a very high risk to fall into the Uncanny Valley.
luk0dab 1 year ago
I think I'm gonna have nightmares tonight............
Masterge77 1 year ago 21
I cant wait to fuck an android!
MillardFillm0re 1 year ago
i tell you im gonner have nightmares about that baby for a long time to come...that is simply too creepy
Vakrian 1 year ago
1:08 that's actually kinda cute... it's not as disturbing as the baby, that's for sure.
kidinthekolorfullhat 1 year ago
:39 scared the sh*t out of me.
thangQanime 1 year ago
I think at some point our subconscious stops seeing "human simulation" and starts seeing "diseased human." At that point our instincts to get away from the plague carrier / crazy person kick in.
jhuger 1 year ago
What's the name of the clip at 1:09.
Xaxton2 1 year ago
@Xaxton2 I'd like to know, too. It's kind of cute and I haven't seen it before.
MorroccoSurrogate 1 year ago
@Xaxton2 Okay, I found it. It's a Nexi MDS robot.
MorroccoSurrogate 1 year ago
Can't just stop when it's starting to get interesting!!
OktoberStorm 1 year ago
I too learned about this on NPR and now I understand why that dancing baby screensaver that was so popular in the early 90's so creped me out! I hated that baby but was fascinated by it too. Machines can be cute but robots that look too human, to me, seem like animated corpses. I haven't seen anything that I've found frightening yet but there is definitely a yuck factor.
Khdre 1 year ago
@Khdre i fucking hate that baby!
AnalFuckingCow 1 year ago
I always noticed this effect but never had a term to frame it in. Then I heard about the "Uncanny Valley" on NPR today and said ah-ha!
To a lesser degree, I think the uncanny valley theory applies to CG animation as a whole, not just w/anthropomorphism. Ive always felt a visceral "yucky" feeling whenever Ive seen cg movies b/c the physics aren't quite right. I 1st noticed it in the 80s as a kid when cg animation started to appear. Only when cg is deliberately cartoonish is the effect mitigated.
SupositoryRepository 1 year ago
None of the examples here really freaked me out honestly. It just doesn't really get to me if it's puppets/robots or CGI.
Stop-motion claymation however? FUCK that. God damn, that part at the end of Evil Dead 1 gave me nightmares.
pentherapy 1 year ago
Same here
I tend to find popular conceptions of space aliens very frightening, which I guess is how other people feel about the uncanny valley, and if these particular images disturbed me at all it's 'cause they were Japanese
odenskrigare 1 year ago
So do the aliens that scare you have to be humanoid? Or is it scarier if they're total starfish aliens and don't look anything like us?
pentherapy 1 year ago
Yeah, humanoids. The cliché kind with spindly bodies and huge eyes. I don't believe the Earth is being visited by extraterrestrials but idk this kind of image really gives me the creeps.
odenskrigare 1 year ago
rofl
azntakeaway 1 year ago
This is rather interesting... I'll have to do more research on the uncanny valley.
elsieENVY 1 year ago