IBM PC Model 5155 connected on Internet

[ibm5155]

Yes i can acess the internet

[crogeek]

Tune from Fallout 3

[trancelistic]

Wonderful video. I watched and enjoyed it all. Thanks for sharing

[auro1001]

Good choice of music :)

[Walmartian77]

I remember in 1986 an IBM PC XT 286 RAM ram had 640 KB . the graphics were 640 by 200 the speed was 6 MHz lol

with a 20 MB hard disk sold for $4000 bucks

[alone8406]

MY VERY FIRST COMPUTER RIGHT HERE I LEARNED MS DOS ON THIS BEAST LOL

[ibm5155]

@alone8406 look how do you speak with me dud

[Quaaludedude714]

Intel 8088 @4,77 MHz - 640 KB of RAM - 20 MB , great - Thanks for uploading :) QC

[dronespace]

wowzers

[eltonpiko]

cant belive it still works man.and connect to the internet wow really like that.this is a piece of history right here.i have to get 1 ibm 5155 for xmas

[beerrox711]

still faster than my acer tm 2450!

[ibm5155]

I'm a famous computer =D Thumbs me

[plopkinggamer]

hmm i need to play fallout

[mr6johnclark]

@plopkinggamer This tune sort of matches right?

[plopkinggamer]

@mr6johnclark haha yes indeed every time i hear this something in my little brain makes me want and play 6 hours of fallout

[WTFIsThisKidDoingLOL]

Would i be able to to this with an Amstrad PPC 640?

[neutrino78x]

btw, IBM later made something called the IBM PC Convertible which was closer to what we would identify as a laptop these days, also 8088 based IIRC. :-)

[vanisitie]

Wow, the internet has been won... France gets the gold medal

[TheNightOcean]

Yes, of course. You can emulate a VT100 terminal with Procomm, Telix or Terminate.

[thomashenrydavies]

@TheNightOcean Thanks for the advice.

[thomashenrydavies]

So here's my plan - put Ubuntu on and old PC, install Despotify, hook up an old machine like this to it, log into the Ubuntu box over RS232, and use it as the most retro Spotify client ever.

[thomashenrydavies]

Can the 5155 be used as a VT100 (or similar) terminal, in order to log into a Linux machine over RS232?

[TheNightOcean]

@thomashenrydavies

Yes, of course. You can emulate a VT100 terminal with Procomm, Telix or Terminate.

[KubaPSP]

Hi, do you think it's possible to do this via Windows(7 or XP)? I have old laptop that doesn't have pcmcia slots, just serial port and parralell port, but that is broken.

I've been looking for the software but found nothing :(

[TheNightOcean]

@KubaPSP

Yes, it may be possible by creating a PPP/SLIP connection on the server side(listening mode) and using the built-in "Internet Connection Sharing" feature of Windows XP (or a routing software like Winroute).

[corey111997]

remindes me of fallout new vegas

[DMonk124s]

You should rename this video "10 minute google search"

[mrfuzzer1]

This guy is so 1984, get with the times man. No but seriously, nice video love this stuff.

[tvoice1]

Just curious, how much does that thing weigh??

[BrianPicchi]

Pretty sick.

[raymangold22]

So your IBM 5155 is still a more reliable machine than your HP? ;)

[TheNightOcean]

@raymangold22

Oh! You're right. The screen of the HP Laptop doesn't work anymore.

The 5155 is still in excellent condition :)

[0UT3RL1M1T5]

I have a Packard Bell Legend 200 (Model PB100) computer from 1991. It has a 100mb hard drive, an Intel 80286 processor (12mhz) etc. I think it has about 1mb of ram? it says 640k base memory, and 512k extended memory. I run DOS 6.22. Can I connect it to the internet? It has 2 parallel ports and 1 serial port. And two phone jacks. How would I connect it? Could it get a virus? Thanks, and this is a very awesome video!

[Manimal347]

@0UT3RL1M1T5

No, this is definitely doable. You need to get a 16-bit ISA Ethernet board. Look for something period-piece like an NE2000 or 3C503, because newer cards might have 386-specific drivers or setup routine. The cards have packet drivers, and most DOS programs use the wattcp stack. Your computer is too slow for many things, but you could: telnet into freenets, chat on IRC > Bitlbee, download from FTPs, and play with hosting content. Maybe E-mail, if you don't need TLS.

[Manimal347]

@0UT3RL1M1T5

Technically, you can use the graphical arachne browser, but I've seen it bring Pentiums to their knees. Perhaps the best option is to keep a set of useful command line tools on a Linux/BSD box, then SSH into the box with OpenSSH2. And no, you won't be doing anything graphical with your computer on the Internet - not beyond downloading a picture and viewing it offline with LXpic. Virii? Sure! You're still vulnerable to paleo-era DOS viruses. Will you? As likely as winning the lotter

[Manimal347]

@0UT3RL1M1T5

Lastly, you might want to look at your motherboard and see how the extended RAM is fitted. I have a sense it's probably on some proprietary board, but if not, upgrading might be a good idea. Not for the Internet, but so you can watch Windows 3.1 crawl more effectively...

[davidhonner2011]

Alquem tem um ms-dos ?

para mim emprestar

[juliuslagerlf]

Tells you all the news! No matter how bad it hurts!

[tonijn1969]

nullmodem i see

[azsxw2]

but will it blend?

[juliuslagerlf]

@azsxw2

HEY YOU STOLE MY JOKE!!!!!

[azsxw2]

@juliuslagerlf

iv'e seen everyone saying it but if it makes you feel better i'll stop :)

[BilisNegra]

It's amazing how google start page is so simple it will load correctly no matter how rudimentary the browser might be. Try this with any other page (present day, not those remnants you find in old servers of pages written 10-15 years ago) and it will either not load at all, or display a hodgepodge of text fragments making not much sense with each other (since they are supposed to be complemented/supported with java/flash/any kind of image file).

[weegeesmusic]

good songs

[ejzllanes96]

from that 13kg dinosaur to our ''ounce''-light robots. what an evolution :D

[darrylip]

i actually have one of these at home and it also connected to the net :D btw, what song is playing? haha..

[adeelgangster]

I'd love to facebook on this PoS

[sasafeda]

1:29 what is it doing?

[swiftshady]

Thats About the same speed Youtube loads these days

[mrgoodvibrations]

Cool video, great soundtrack!

[ibatonio]

I think now I'm really able to understand why the Macintosh was so revolutionary in 1984 :)

[Kevincat2]

ha i heard this song on fallout 3. lol at 0:05 look at the size difference

[MixerVM]

"This weighs no more than 13.6 kilograms" [29 pounds]

I expected it to be heavier......

[epicguy103]

@MixerVM i think it actually weighs fifty pounds..........i think, i saw an old commercial for this computer...... and it said fifty pounds.....

[MixerVM]

@epicguy103 No that is the 5100 you're thinking of



[hubergeek]

Wouldn't it be cool to be to an open cafe with a pair of bell-botton pants, a polyester jacket with your hair combed to the sides and one of these things on a table writing an email while connected to a IBM mainframe somewhere over there.

[miviezgeneration]

looks like one guy had the power supply fail on him while surfing on an old ibm machine

[TheNightOcean]

Yes of course. You can hook any standard CGA monitor on the existing video card.

[007agent0007]

can you install other graphics card to this pc and connect normal old monitor?

[Brickstin]

Great now I feel like.. Playing.. Fallout3 LOL btw.. what is all the names of those songs you have playing? I know its off topic.. and OMG That PC is soo cute and cool xD

[blackssnow]

great music

[leonardone32]

the rétro music is just perfect :D

[geeknproud2110]

This is great! The music fits it perfectly! I LOL'd through the whole thing.

[rick62008]

I'm amazed! Favorited.

[ThePartnerSubscriber]

searching on google in 2009 on a computer made in 1984! damn, i'm impressed.

[Speedster159]

I like the song..........

[ipodclassic10]

Change that fucked up song! lol but good vid!

[BranislavDJ]

Download something >.<

[treeware]

This reminds me of playing fallout 3.

[MrCauldron]

Can you do it using XP?

[MrCauldron]

Can you do it using Windows XP?

[daviem619]

go on you tube lol

[italouruguayricano]

Swell!

[Dimoon07]

Launch Crysis on this pc, plz xD

[trevormeuse16]

mais its a fellow frenchie XD

[Revanchist8525]

lol FALLOUT 3

[DURAMATRIX112]

wow taht is awesome!

[geekforlifevandc]

whats the 1st song

[AlfredRusselWallace]

pure awesome

[yelnam2manley]

Can it play YouTube videos

[atari26003]

This looks like a great idea!

I am very tempted to do this to mine now. haha.

Thanks for the upload I have more stuff to read :D

[GarthW2]

19200 bps is much, much faster than you can read, so the connection speed itself does not explain the slowness. My son's 300 bps modem on the Commodore 64 gave 3/4 of a 40-character line per second. In my Windows & dial-up modem days I watched real-time news video at 28800 bps (although the picture was small and only 16-color-- pretty crude), 28800 being only 50% faster than 19200.

[TheLvproduction]

What name of this song?

[Revanchist8525]

@TheLvproduction Civilization by Danny Kaye

[LoftBits]

Absolutely beautiful! I liked your idea of connecting it through serial. It goes more with a 'spirit of the time', I remember my modem connections first to BBSs, then to VMS boxes at my university (the first time I was able to use internet 'remotely'). Then SLIP came, and that was hight tech, to be able to run your own WAIS, GOPHER clients and finally...a graphical browser, with everyone around shouting 'WOW!' when a first graphics appeared on the page, after a minute or so...

[MOOJL]

kill me... now.

[HunMadav]

Respect :)

I wasnt even alive at that time this comp was made :P

[donbelindo]

Great retro pc video. Good music. Congratulations!

[Quaaludedude714]

I Thank you for Proving This  Intel 8088 @ 4,77 MHz can & will Get Online :) QC

[ZXRulezzz]

Why just not to plug a NIC inside 5155 and connect it to DSL router via ethernet?

3com EtherLink III for example... I have same NIC in my 286 AT.

[TheNightOcean]

just read bellow :)

[andycristea13]

etherlink 3 is 16bit, wont work on an 8088.

[mrgoodvibrations]

sooo slooooooooooooow, cool tunes

[raptory0]

What is the name of the first song ?

[stonerj0e]

i had this exact computer in my bedroom when i was 16 ! LOL !

[RotorDemon]

You were 16.. I was 5 when my dad brought home this leading edge technology from Tektronix. I played Digger on that Mofo! It rocked!

[poopskinTheLiar]

i've been trying to get my hands on a 5155 for a while now...The oldest IBM i have is a PS/2 p70.

Also, this song makes me want to play Fallout 3.

[RotorDemon]

The whole PC reminds me of my childhood. Fallout 3 as well.. Perfect PC.. Perfect music...

[chibichan1701]

@poopskinTheLiar Are you still looking for one? I have one that I'm looking to sell.

[poopskinTheLiar]

@chibichan1701 I'd love to take it, but i can't right now.

[RobertMfromLI]

@poopskinTheLiar It was my first computer... kinda miss it. Glad to see one still running... :-)

[smeezekitty]

Did you try arachne browser?

AFAIK it has a version that supports the 8088 processor and supports graphics (eeek at the speed).

[Turtov]

640KB ought to be enough for anyone.

[lxPhilxl]

Bill . . ? . . Is that you?

[viramont90]

it doesn't show images of the actual site!

just text??!?!?

D:

[TheNightOcean]

Yes, it just displays text because Bobcat is a textmode web browser.

[viramont90]

that sucks lol. :P

but then again the computer is 25 years old.

:D

[2wayfreq]

@viramont90  Yeah, graphics were not that powerful back then. Video cards had like 128K,256K memory if you were lucky.

[RobertMfromLI]

@2wayfreq Heh... the WHOLE COMPUTER actually came with that much often... up to 640K if you could spend a grand or three more. This machine came with a whopping 16K of video RAM. It had a CGA adapter in it. The alternatives were the IBM MDA (monochrome display adapter) which came with 4K RAM.

There was the IBM PGA/PGC which came with 320K of RAM, but it was over $4000.

[90210411]

@viramont90 Images would take up such a huge amount of an earlier operating system's memory... look at the specs... 640 KB of RAM. Web images can consume all of that.

[TheToxicMite]

Just brilliant; that's how computers should've stayed.

[GlycerinZ]

damn that thing takes a long time to verify RAM

[raymondleeleggs]

Thats very basic! Computers have come a long way,

[linuxlove4004]

Reason 1 is semi-false. If it has an ISA slot or parallel port, you can attach an ethernet adapter to it. Still a good video though.

[TheNightOcean]

Thanks,but you didn't read carefully, or maybe my english is bad, I wrote " Reason 1: Old computers often don't have Network Interf Card, so you can't connect them directly to a DSL Modem/Router" . Here I'm not talking specifically about 5155 or PC, but about old computers in general. NIC for computers like VIC20, C64, Apple 2, Atari ST are non-existant or home-made and very rare. This technic can be used not only with PCs, but with every computer without NIC,that can use SLIP or PPP protocols

[TheNightOcean]

About ISA slots, you're right, The IBM 5155 has 8 of them, like his brother, the IBM 5160. I've got a french IBM PC XT clone, a BULL Micral 30 which has an 8bits 3COM Etherlink II NIC. Works much better and faster than PPP/SLIP gateway :)

[linuxlove4004]

yeah; your english was fine but i took "computer" to mean "IBM PC or clone". Although there is the Uthernet card for Apple ][ which brings ethernet to the apple.

And I have an ethernet card in my IBM system and it seems to be much faster than serial PPP or InterLink.

[smeezekitty]

i have a 486, can i use the serial gateway?

how do i if the host computer has not serial port?

[TheNightOcean]

Yes of course. And if your gateway PC has no serial port, you can add one by using an USB Serial Adapter (i used one with my notebook, as you can see on the video)

[smeezekitty]

Ok, i will try as soon as i can and amazing response time.

(one more thing, whats that really good music?)

[TheNightOcean]

Ah yes, i forgot to mention credits for the wonderfull music of the 50's:

1) The Andrew Sisters - Civilization

2) Peggy Lee & Benny Googman - On the Sunny Side of The Street

3) Peggy Lee & Benny Googman - Elmer's Tune

4) Louis Prima - Be Mine (Little Baby)

[Dms12444]

Out of curiosity, what kind of expansions do you have in there. If it's ISA, you should be able to find Ethernet cards for it.

[TheNightOcean]

Yes, the 5155 has the same motherboard as the 5160, with 8Bits ISA Slots. I own an 3COM Etherlink II (8 bits), but it is already fitted in my Bull Micral 30. But using a PPP Gateway is anyway very interesting.

[Dms12444]

Well, at least it works for you.

[stabilini]

holy craaaappp it takes so long to test memory

[2wayfreq]

@stabilini I thought you could hit ESC and it would skip. Maybe not for 5155.

[ProdigyWorks]

Love it, I hope I was born when the technology was moving like that, I am in the process of acquring my mothers ibm model, she was using it for writing documents like 20 years ago!

Love the vintage song and computer!

[lucasxdfernandes]

so fast the internet on this old pc :B lol, really cool the internet in this IBM PC, it's so wow!!! thank you for the vid. ^-^

[THEtechknight]

worse song in histroy.

[TheNightOcean]

worse comment in history.

[kevin12567]

Why does it take so long to pull up the page? Is it because it's reading the graphics and other data the 5155 can't use and has to reformat the page so it can be displayed on the screen?

[TheNightOcean]

It take so long simply because the download of the data (without graphics) over a serial line (19200kbps) is slow, plus the fact that we're using a PPP packet driver and that the disk is swapping a lot. There is no reformating, just usual parsing. TCP/IP Stack is an heavy load for a 25 years old computer without an Ethernet card :)

[Packrat559]

Wow, that is incredible! Awesome computer, too - wish I could get my hands on one of those :) Great job getting it to work.

[sparky4444444444444]

nice compy

that is all you need to browse internet

[6364gg2]

Cool. If an apple II can do it, any computer can!

[johansz78]

My original wish was to install some kind of Unix/OS on its hard drive but never had time to do so .

By the way this is another really good use too :)

[SamuraiClinton]

It would be nice if they had MySpace, crude edition for older computers!