Yes, G-d told Abraham to listen to his wife regarding what was best for Issac. True with Rebecca as well regarding Jacab and Esau. Regarding children women know a little more then the men because usually they spend a little more time in that sphere. However, when it comes to external matters it is obvious G-d felt men are better suited. G-d spoke to Abraham on where they should settle not Sarah and Sarah followed where Abraham went. So for women to be influential they need a man and children.
@Adam6275 You have a point but you are making assumptions. For instance you assume that because God spoke to Abraham and not Sarah about where they should settle that that means that God thinks men are better suited for this. But it could have been just that Abraham was better suited than Sarah, or that in those days men generally made those types of decisions. You also assume from this that a woman needs a man and children to be influential but we see many influential single women today.
@voncello So the Torah was just meant for those times is that what you are saying and it no longer is relevant. Should men not listen to their wives regarding children as well or you just want to undermine area's that men have more influence. I don't see many influential single women. Women more then men work for the men in the government. They just give more power to the men on top with a bully pulpit and influence and spit on the men in the middle and lower ends which is not a good thing .
@Adam6275 Again you made an assumption. The Torah may be very relevant indeed but you may not be interpreting it correctly. Ten people can read a paragraph and come away with 10 understandings. That doesn't mean all ten are correct. It could be that one person digs deeper and finds the more accurate understanding. You read a story about God interacting with one couple and decided that it must be making a universal statement about male female relations. I was just questioning your conclusion.
The bible isn't anti female in any way. Rabbinic Judaism does have some problems and Rabbi's have made some very bad rulings as they don't really understand male-female relations and work in an all male profession and to make women feel better about this they put down rank and file men. Divorce doesn't really favor men as men have to compensate a women for divorce. Women want to divorce like men but not compensate the man for breaking the marriage contract which leaves the man as nothing.
BTW, I am not endorsing Jewish laws or recommending the lifestyle. I just believe that many people have preconceived negative ideas about Judaism that are often based on misconceptions or a lack of knowledge. This knowledge is hard to find which is why I wrote my book Beyond Faith. In 554 pages I deal with as many subjects as I can, especially those that are often misunderstood. Judaism has had some problems with women but overall I think it was way ahead of its time & is still better than most.
8)Allthought much can be said that lucky those laws arent practiced todays, some of them still are practiced today. Furthermore it says something about judaism in old times and about the way women were approached, and how judaism looks at women today. And that isnt not all good at all.
PS 1: When I talked about judaism I foremost talked about orthodox judaism.
PS 2: Thank you for your compliment on my selected youtube name.
When Abraham wanted to keep his son Ishmael God told him to listen to his wife! Where in Islam is it taught that a man should listen to his wife? Israel was led by a woman named Deborah. Rebecca was considered a prophet and was instrumental in convincing her son to trick his father into giving him the blessing. Once more a woman knew better than her husband. Again show me such stories in the Koran or even the New Testament. Overall Judaism was very ahead of its time in being pro female.
7)I think Islam adopted many of the jews rabbinical laws; the law of adultery for only a women, the approval of slavery and even polygeny (polygamy only for men, which is slavery for women). Further more the law which state that a raped girl has to marry her own rapist, if he offers her father some money. And I could go on and on, mentioning all kind of laws which are now considered crimes against humanity, women and childeren
Islam is incomparably worse for women. Just look at the way women are treated in Israel vs. Arab countries. You are cherry picking laws from 3000 yrs ago and acting like they are enforced today. You also misinterpret the laws on slavery and rape but I don't have the space to go into this. I do in my book and in other videos. In Islam the woman is the property of the man, he may beat her, disown her. Families kill daughters as honor killings. Women must be covered head to toe, can't leave home...
6)I know that men also have the obligation to go to the synagogue 3 times a day, but how many jewish men are doing that and have a profession at the same time. The female obligations (kosher, childeren, mikweh) havent decreased, what so ever. But if we look at the rabbinical laws. We see a set of rules that are women unfriendly too. There is the Aguna; only a men can divorce from his wife, but not the otherway around. Furthermore a women testimony will not be heard in court.
Almost all Orthodox men manage to go to shul 3 times a day despite the intense hardship of this. Women are lucky they don't have to so this. The men also have more restrictions. Yes, the laws about divorce are problematic. If there was a Sanhedrin in israel this law might be overturned but you can't have a Sanhedrin until the Temple is rebuilt which just ads to the urgency to have it rebuilt despite the objections of Muslims who really do not need to dominate the Temple Mount having Mecca.
5)I think judaism is a religion of men and about men, following the rules, instead of women and faith in god. The last two arent necessary.
Men are serving god in the synagogue and women serving men and mens childeren, and childeren respect there parents. By doing sow women are always and still are placed on the sidebench in judaism.
Women raise the children in a traditional home. That is actually considered the most important job in Judaism. They also supported the priests in ancient Israel. Without the women there would be no priests. It is taught that only the men worshipped the golden calf and it says that it was due to the women that the Jews survived slavery in Egypt due to their insistence on keeping the family traditions strong. You can criticize if you choose but one can also see it in a positive light.
4)I know women can work, they can pray in the synagogue and study talmud, but its not necessary. But history has shown that women werent allowed to do that, and its not something enthousiastic welcomed either. One thing remained unchange thats the synagogue rule, which deprive women from a spiritual connection, especially when you mention that woman are more spiritual then men are. Sow Judaism is depriving their women of something.
There are women who go to shul every day. They are not barred from going. Many Orthodox women appreciate the separation. If you pray and really get into it, I mean shutting your eyes, swaying around, holding your hands up to God, etc. it can be embarrassing to do so knowing a member of the opposite sex is watching you. So mixed seating does in fact inhibit letting yourself go. In Orthodox services people get much more "into it" than they do in Reform, where they politely & quietly say prayers.
3)Even the seperation of men and women, allthough understanding the difficulties for men, its gives a signal that women are somehow bad in a sense, and lesser.
The idea that a Jewish womans life is sow set by rules, dictated from birth untill grave, isnt giving a good example. The obligations which women have to do: kosher food, raising childeren Jewish, mikweh, isnt leaving any room for men doing this aswell (well the mikweh is a little bit difficult).
Actually men go to the mikvah too before holidays. Some go weekly. When the Temple stood all men had to immerse before entering. The separation doesn't reflect badly on women but on men! And women have many fewer obligations than men. In any society there are obligations. In the U.S. we are obligated to vaccinate children, send them to school, etc. People cannot walk around with their private parts showing. Who we can have sex with is regulated. Same for food & drugs. All societies have laws.
Well men are not required to go at this point in time, but when the Temple stood, and if it ever does again, men are required to go. So it's not an anti-female thing. And the purification has nothing to do with uncleanliness in the modern sense, but a spiritual sense. When one encounters death he becomes unclean. That is why people wash after going to cemeteries. Women during menses are releasing blood from a potential life which brings them close to a type of death. Impurity = death.
2)Concerning the modesty and wigs, I know that women dress up sow men dont feel attracted to them. Especcialy men outside the marriage. From my point of view I only see that, the attraction which a men feels for a women, the preventive meassurement are kind of shifted away from men onto the women. Women must do everything to prevent attraction, making themselves unattractive, getting blamed in a sense.
That is not why women cover themselves. In fact, many Orthodox women dress in very attractive clothing even if not revealing. This is not at all like the Muslim burkah idea. The idea is for both sexes to dress in a way that allows them to be judged for their personality not their physical attributes. As for the wigs, that was done to prevent Jewish women from being raped by European nobles who often would rape their subjects. It is carried on today due to legalities not quickly explainable.
I don't believe it is in the Torah. It was necessary for married women because there were laws in European provinces that all married women had to first be raped by the local Gentile ruler. In early Judaism you had 2 wedding ceremonies a year apart. After the 1st the woman would live with her parents while the man would work and build a home. During this time the rulers would demand to rape the Jewish women, so the rabbis ruled they must shave their heads! It was to protect them!
1)I have to address you one more time, because allthough you explained the seperation and Eves story. You didnt address the Lilith story, the Thora touching restriction for women, and the wigs and modesty. I can only guess why you didnt address those issues, i think its because is could just undermine your female friendly judaism. But, the equal but not the same is, a myth and it didnt convinced me to think otherwise. I still think judaism is women unfriendly in many ways.
I address many things in my book. Like I said there's only so much you can do in a 10 minute video. I do talk about the no touching restriction in my book and point out that it goes both ways, men can't touch women nor can women touch men for 12 days a month. Why does that bother you? It provides a zone of privacy and teaches both partners that the other is not their property to be used at will. It teaches a couple to relate in non sexual ways, as friends, from the start of their marriage.
Actually they can touch it. When the Torah is brought around the congregation women do touch it and kiss their hands, as do men. They can't go up and read from it or handle it because that would be in the sight of the men and then we are back to the laws to keep the men from being distracted. If you really believe that God will favor you more if you totally concentrate on Him during prayer, then you can understand why the rabbis tried to minimize having the men start thinking "Wow, what a babe!"
I did watch it. What you mention is that a man is more earth bond and has to go to the sjoel 3 times a day and that women are more spiritual etc. I don't think those words are the answer to my question on separation.
The service was set up for the spiritual needs of the men. It is considered that the more spiritual woman doesn't need constant synagogue attendance to stay connected to God. She is welcome to come but sits separately so as not to distract the men. Let's face it, how much is a typical man going to think about God if a beautiful woman is sitting near him? So the separation is not meant in any way to diminish women. Indeed if anything it is a negative reflection on men. Reform Jews sit together.
I've been to both types of services. I see the value in letting men & women sit together. For one thing it can be lonely to have to be separated from someone you love during holidays, etc. On the other hand, I can testify first hand that I have been totally distracted at services where there was a beautiful woman to look at. I mean, an old rabbi with a beard vs. a girl with long hair in a well fitting dress ... no contest! So I see the value in separate seating as well. P.S. I like your name!
Yes men thank God for not having made them a woman but did you know that women thank God for making them "according to God's will"? If you can get beyond your prejudices you should know that this means that women are considered closer to the godly ideal. The man thanks God he is not a woman because he should accept his role despite not being created as ideally as a woman is. If you don't believe me, ask an Orthodox rabbi. Judaism is very pro woman as my book explains in detail.
You adress this topic femism vs judaism and start of with (liberal) females who don't know a lot about the jewish believe. Then you begin with adam and even (which if you might know we not even jewish) telling one story which is not in the thora, but in the talmud. And you forget to tell story of lilith, adams disobedience wife, first feminist. But that doesn't say anything about judaism view on women what so ever.
Youtube limits videos to 10 minutes so you have to pick and choose what to say. My book devotes a whole chapter to this subject. But in this video I did show how the story of Adam and Eve is often misinterpreted. Some women think since Eve was created second the Torah is saying she is a second class citizen. But the rabbis explain that if you look at the order of creation it goes from inanimate objects to plants to animals to man and finally woman. She is the crown of creation!
hey its me again. i was just wondering is there any major differnces in Christanity and Judaism. If so, either write back or post a video describeing them. I want to move Beyond Faith. just i want to do it in my religion.
To really move beyond faith one has to be willing to question one's religion, one's country, one's assumptions about everything. For instance, when I was a kid I wanted to play the cello like a guitar. People would laugh at me and even insult me for that. I once asked my father, "Why don't people play the cello like a guitar", and he said, "Because the cello is not a guitar". Yet I didn't accept the easy answer and spent years proving to the world that it could! I moved "beyond faith" musically.
There are many ways to go forward. You don't have to do anything. But in my opinion to move beyond faith you have to move beyond faith. Many people need faith but others find that to be a dead end. It's really up to each person to figure out what's best for him.
I hear you on being behind the mechitzah! I prefer when there is a curtain down the middle. But if there are congregations that like the women behind the curtain, they are not breaking any law. I just would not go to that congregation if I were a woman. But then again, maybe I would, since in a way you would have more privacy to commune with God. If I couldn't hear the rabbi, I would speak up. Most rabbis love to be heard, so they would probably fix that situation fast!
Don't get me wrong, Orthodox Judaism has many great qualities but as a woman sitting behind a mechitzah straining to hear the rabbi is not how it should be.
Practice? I practice the cello! LOL! As for Judaism, I do not subscribe to a particular "sect", if that's what you want to know. I do not believe in sects. But in this video, and in my book Beyond Faith, I primarily get my information from the Orthodox wing of Judaism. I find that most people, including most Jews, don't really know what the Orthodox believe, so I took it upon myself to help publicize traditional Jewish ideas.
It happens to not be "my" opinion but is the standard Orthodox Jewish interpretation. All of my ideas on the video are things I learned from Orthodox Jewish books, classes, and lectures. I think it is very important for the general public to finally learn what Orthodox Jews have known for centuries!
I like your opinion, but that's YOUR OPINION. People don't INTERPET the Bible like you, you are the first person I have ever heard explain it like that. And even though it makes sense, people will always use religions to hate. Which is why I like Reform Judaism, in reform it is said the Bible or Torah are the inspired teachings of a man, and his interpetation is different from ours.
Yes, G-d told Abraham to listen to his wife regarding what was best for Issac. True with Rebecca as well regarding Jacab and Esau. Regarding children women know a little more then the men because usually they spend a little more time in that sphere. However, when it comes to external matters it is obvious G-d felt men are better suited. G-d spoke to Abraham on where they should settle not Sarah and Sarah followed where Abraham went. So for women to be influential they need a man and children.
Adam6275 1 year ago
@Adam6275 You have a point but you are making assumptions. For instance you assume that because God spoke to Abraham and not Sarah about where they should settle that that means that God thinks men are better suited for this. But it could have been just that Abraham was better suited than Sarah, or that in those days men generally made those types of decisions. You also assume from this that a woman needs a man and children to be influential but we see many influential single women today.
voncello 1 year ago
@voncello So the Torah was just meant for those times is that what you are saying and it no longer is relevant. Should men not listen to their wives regarding children as well or you just want to undermine area's that men have more influence. I don't see many influential single women. Women more then men work for the men in the government. They just give more power to the men on top with a bully pulpit and influence and spit on the men in the middle and lower ends which is not a good thing .
Adam6275 1 year ago
@Adam6275 Again you made an assumption. The Torah may be very relevant indeed but you may not be interpreting it correctly. Ten people can read a paragraph and come away with 10 understandings. That doesn't mean all ten are correct. It could be that one person digs deeper and finds the more accurate understanding. You read a story about God interacting with one couple and decided that it must be making a universal statement about male female relations. I was just questioning your conclusion.
voncello 1 year ago
The bible isn't anti female in any way. Rabbinic Judaism does have some problems and Rabbi's have made some very bad rulings as they don't really understand male-female relations and work in an all male profession and to make women feel better about this they put down rank and file men. Divorce doesn't really favor men as men have to compensate a women for divorce. Women want to divorce like men but not compensate the man for breaking the marriage contract which leaves the man as nothing.
Adam6275 2 years ago
BTW, I am not endorsing Jewish laws or recommending the lifestyle. I just believe that many people have preconceived negative ideas about Judaism that are often based on misconceptions or a lack of knowledge. This knowledge is hard to find which is why I wrote my book Beyond Faith. In 554 pages I deal with as many subjects as I can, especially those that are often misunderstood. Judaism has had some problems with women but overall I think it was way ahead of its time & is still better than most.
voncello 2 years ago
8)Allthought much can be said that lucky those laws arent practiced todays, some of them still are practiced today. Furthermore it says something about judaism in old times and about the way women were approached, and how judaism looks at women today. And that isnt not all good at all.
PS 1: When I talked about judaism I foremost talked about orthodox judaism.
PS 2: Thank you for your compliment on my selected youtube name.
RoadlessPath 2 years ago
When Abraham wanted to keep his son Ishmael God told him to listen to his wife! Where in Islam is it taught that a man should listen to his wife? Israel was led by a woman named Deborah. Rebecca was considered a prophet and was instrumental in convincing her son to trick his father into giving him the blessing. Once more a woman knew better than her husband. Again show me such stories in the Koran or even the New Testament. Overall Judaism was very ahead of its time in being pro female.
voncello 2 years ago
7)I think Islam adopted many of the jews rabbinical laws; the law of adultery for only a women, the approval of slavery and even polygeny (polygamy only for men, which is slavery for women). Further more the law which state that a raped girl has to marry her own rapist, if he offers her father some money. And I could go on and on, mentioning all kind of laws which are now considered crimes against humanity, women and childeren
RoadlessPath 2 years ago
Islam is incomparably worse for women. Just look at the way women are treated in Israel vs. Arab countries. You are cherry picking laws from 3000 yrs ago and acting like they are enforced today. You also misinterpret the laws on slavery and rape but I don't have the space to go into this. I do in my book and in other videos. In Islam the woman is the property of the man, he may beat her, disown her. Families kill daughters as honor killings. Women must be covered head to toe, can't leave home...
voncello 2 years ago
6)I know that men also have the obligation to go to the synagogue 3 times a day, but how many jewish men are doing that and have a profession at the same time. The female obligations (kosher, childeren, mikweh) havent decreased, what so ever. But if we look at the rabbinical laws. We see a set of rules that are women unfriendly too. There is the Aguna; only a men can divorce from his wife, but not the otherway around. Furthermore a women testimony will not be heard in court.
RoadlessPath 2 years ago
Almost all Orthodox men manage to go to shul 3 times a day despite the intense hardship of this. Women are lucky they don't have to so this. The men also have more restrictions. Yes, the laws about divorce are problematic. If there was a Sanhedrin in israel this law might be overturned but you can't have a Sanhedrin until the Temple is rebuilt which just ads to the urgency to have it rebuilt despite the objections of Muslims who really do not need to dominate the Temple Mount having Mecca.
voncello 2 years ago
5)I think judaism is a religion of men and about men, following the rules, instead of women and faith in god. The last two arent necessary.
Men are serving god in the synagogue and women serving men and mens childeren, and childeren respect there parents. By doing sow women are always and still are placed on the sidebench in judaism.
RoadlessPath 2 years ago
Women raise the children in a traditional home. That is actually considered the most important job in Judaism. They also supported the priests in ancient Israel. Without the women there would be no priests. It is taught that only the men worshipped the golden calf and it says that it was due to the women that the Jews survived slavery in Egypt due to their insistence on keeping the family traditions strong. You can criticize if you choose but one can also see it in a positive light.
voncello 2 years ago
4)I know women can work, they can pray in the synagogue and study talmud, but its not necessary. But history has shown that women werent allowed to do that, and its not something enthousiastic welcomed either. One thing remained unchange thats the synagogue rule, which deprive women from a spiritual connection, especially when you mention that woman are more spiritual then men are. Sow Judaism is depriving their women of something.
RoadlessPath 2 years ago
There are women who go to shul every day. They are not barred from going. Many Orthodox women appreciate the separation. If you pray and really get into it, I mean shutting your eyes, swaying around, holding your hands up to God, etc. it can be embarrassing to do so knowing a member of the opposite sex is watching you. So mixed seating does in fact inhibit letting yourself go. In Orthodox services people get much more "into it" than they do in Reform, where they politely & quietly say prayers.
voncello 2 years ago
3)Even the seperation of men and women, allthough understanding the difficulties for men, its gives a signal that women are somehow bad in a sense, and lesser.
The idea that a Jewish womans life is sow set by rules, dictated from birth untill grave, isnt giving a good example. The obligations which women have to do: kosher food, raising childeren Jewish, mikweh, isnt leaving any room for men doing this aswell (well the mikweh is a little bit difficult).
RoadlessPath 2 years ago
Actually men go to the mikvah too before holidays. Some go weekly. When the Temple stood all men had to immerse before entering. The separation doesn't reflect badly on women but on men! And women have many fewer obligations than men. In any society there are obligations. In the U.S. we are obligated to vaccinate children, send them to school, etc. People cannot walk around with their private parts showing. Who we can have sex with is regulated. Same for food & drugs. All societies have laws.
voncello 2 years ago
I knew men are going to a mikvah, but generaly mikvah are being used by women, for family purity.
RoadlessPath 2 years ago
Well men are not required to go at this point in time, but when the Temple stood, and if it ever does again, men are required to go. So it's not an anti-female thing. And the purification has nothing to do with uncleanliness in the modern sense, but a spiritual sense. When one encounters death he becomes unclean. That is why people wash after going to cemeteries. Women during menses are releasing blood from a potential life which brings them close to a type of death. Impurity = death.
voncello 2 years ago
2)Concerning the modesty and wigs, I know that women dress up sow men dont feel attracted to them. Especcialy men outside the marriage. From my point of view I only see that, the attraction which a men feels for a women, the preventive meassurement are kind of shifted away from men onto the women. Women must do everything to prevent attraction, making themselves unattractive, getting blamed in a sense.
RoadlessPath 2 years ago
That is not why women cover themselves. In fact, many Orthodox women dress in very attractive clothing even if not revealing. This is not at all like the Muslim burkah idea. The idea is for both sexes to dress in a way that allows them to be judged for their personality not their physical attributes. As for the wigs, that was done to prevent Jewish women from being raped by European nobles who often would rape their subjects. It is carried on today due to legalities not quickly explainable.
voncello 2 years ago
But the covering of hair is only necessary for a married women, and is a law written in the Thora.
RoadlessPath 2 years ago
I don't believe it is in the Torah. It was necessary for married women because there were laws in European provinces that all married women had to first be raped by the local Gentile ruler. In early Judaism you had 2 wedding ceremonies a year apart. After the 1st the woman would live with her parents while the man would work and build a home. During this time the rulers would demand to rape the Jewish women, so the rabbis ruled they must shave their heads! It was to protect them!
voncello 2 years ago
1)I have to address you one more time, because allthough you explained the seperation and Eves story. You didnt address the Lilith story, the Thora touching restriction for women, and the wigs and modesty. I can only guess why you didnt address those issues, i think its because is could just undermine your female friendly judaism. But, the equal but not the same is, a myth and it didnt convinced me to think otherwise. I still think judaism is women unfriendly in many ways.
RoadlessPath 2 years ago
I address many things in my book. Like I said there's only so much you can do in a 10 minute video. I do talk about the no touching restriction in my book and point out that it goes both ways, men can't touch women nor can women touch men for 12 days a month. Why does that bother you? It provides a zone of privacy and teaches both partners that the other is not their property to be used at will. It teaches a couple to relate in non sexual ways, as friends, from the start of their marriage.
voncello 2 years ago
I didn't mean the touching between man and woman. I think that is good thing. What I mean is the restriction of a woman touching the Thora.
RoadlessPath 2 years ago
Actually they can touch it. When the Torah is brought around the congregation women do touch it and kiss their hands, as do men. They can't go up and read from it or handle it because that would be in the sight of the men and then we are back to the laws to keep the men from being distracted. If you really believe that God will favor you more if you totally concentrate on Him during prayer, then you can understand why the rabbis tried to minimize having the men start thinking "Wow, what a babe!"
voncello 2 years ago
You dont even explain why women stand seperate from the men in the synagoge.
You tell about a women obligations, and adressing that mens obligation are hard for men to.
You tell a beautiful religion fairy tale, but not much about feminism. And with this I finisch giving you my opinion.
RoadlessPath 2 years ago
I did explain why women stand separate from men in the synagogue. Watch the video to the end!
voncello 2 years ago
I did watch it. What you mention is that a man is more earth bond and has to go to the sjoel 3 times a day and that women are more spiritual etc. I don't think those words are the answer to my question on separation.
RoadlessPath 2 years ago
The service was set up for the spiritual needs of the men. It is considered that the more spiritual woman doesn't need constant synagogue attendance to stay connected to God. She is welcome to come but sits separately so as not to distract the men. Let's face it, how much is a typical man going to think about God if a beautiful woman is sitting near him? So the separation is not meant in any way to diminish women. Indeed if anything it is a negative reflection on men. Reform Jews sit together.
voncello 2 years ago
Sow Reform Jews don't get distracted :-)
I think the orthodox jews could learn something from the reform. Perhaps adonai didn't told them everything at mount sinai ;-)
RoadlessPath 2 years ago
I've been to both types of services. I see the value in letting men & women sit together. For one thing it can be lonely to have to be separated from someone you love during holidays, etc. On the other hand, I can testify first hand that I have been totally distracted at services where there was a beautiful woman to look at. I mean, an old rabbi with a beard vs. a girl with long hair in a well fitting dress ... no contest! So I see the value in separate seating as well. P.S. I like your name!
voncello 2 years ago
I think you should have said, that they just have to see the movie Yentl.
And tell about your praying in which it is said - thank you adonai for not making me a woman.
And tell about the restriction the orthodox jew have for woman that they aren't allowed to touch the thora.
The modesty of orthodox women, wearing wigs and sharfs.
Etc. etc.
There are some good thing, but not enought. In general religions aren't that women friendly.
RoadlessPath 2 years ago
Yes men thank God for not having made them a woman but did you know that women thank God for making them "according to God's will"? If you can get beyond your prejudices you should know that this means that women are considered closer to the godly ideal. The man thanks God he is not a woman because he should accept his role despite not being created as ideally as a woman is. If you don't believe me, ask an Orthodox rabbi. Judaism is very pro woman as my book explains in detail.
voncello 2 years ago
You adress this topic femism vs judaism and start of with (liberal) females who don't know a lot about the jewish believe. Then you begin with adam and even (which if you might know we not even jewish) telling one story which is not in the thora, but in the talmud. And you forget to tell story of lilith, adams disobedience wife, first feminist. But that doesn't say anything about judaism view on women what so ever.
RoadlessPath 2 years ago
Youtube limits videos to 10 minutes so you have to pick and choose what to say. My book devotes a whole chapter to this subject. But in this video I did show how the story of Adam and Eve is often misinterpreted. Some women think since Eve was created second the Torah is saying she is a second class citizen. But the rabbis explain that if you look at the order of creation it goes from inanimate objects to plants to animals to man and finally woman. She is the crown of creation!
voncello 2 years ago
slam dunk!!!
danndan6 2 years ago
Thanks!
voncello 2 years ago
hey its me again. i was just wondering is there any major differnces in Christanity and Judaism. If so, either write back or post a video describeing them. I want to move Beyond Faith. just i want to do it in my religion.
kyboy13 2 years ago
To really move beyond faith one has to be willing to question one's religion, one's country, one's assumptions about everything. For instance, when I was a kid I wanted to play the cello like a guitar. People would laugh at me and even insult me for that. I once asked my father, "Why don't people play the cello like a guitar", and he said, "Because the cello is not a guitar". Yet I didn't accept the easy answer and spent years proving to the world that it could! I moved "beyond faith" musically.
voncello 2 years ago
ok, so i need to basically forget everything ive ever been taught, to go fowarad?
kyboy13 2 years ago
There are many ways to go forward. You don't have to do anything. But in my opinion to move beyond faith you have to move beyond faith. Many people need faith but others find that to be a dead end. It's really up to each person to figure out what's best for him.
voncello 2 years ago
I hear you on being behind the mechitzah! I prefer when there is a curtain down the middle. But if there are congregations that like the women behind the curtain, they are not breaking any law. I just would not go to that congregation if I were a woman. But then again, maybe I would, since in a way you would have more privacy to commune with God. If I couldn't hear the rabbi, I would speak up. Most rabbis love to be heard, so they would probably fix that situation fast!
voncello 3 years ago
Don't get me wrong, Orthodox Judaism has many great qualities but as a woman sitting behind a mechitzah straining to hear the rabbi is not how it should be.
StephSilvermen 3 years ago
Practice? I practice the cello! LOL! As for Judaism, I do not subscribe to a particular "sect", if that's what you want to know. I do not believe in sects. But in this video, and in my book Beyond Faith, I primarily get my information from the Orthodox wing of Judaism. I find that most people, including most Jews, don't really know what the Orthodox believe, so I took it upon myself to help publicize traditional Jewish ideas.
voncello 3 years ago
Just curious, what form of Judaism do you practice?
StephSilvermen 3 years ago
It happens to not be "my" opinion but is the standard Orthodox Jewish interpretation. All of my ideas on the video are things I learned from Orthodox Jewish books, classes, and lectures. I think it is very important for the general public to finally learn what Orthodox Jews have known for centuries!
voncello 3 years ago
I like your opinion, but that's YOUR OPINION. People don't INTERPET the Bible like you, you are the first person I have ever heard explain it like that. And even though it makes sense, people will always use religions to hate. Which is why I like Reform Judaism, in reform it is said the Bible or Torah are the inspired teachings of a man, and his interpetation is different from ours.
LadyScorpio981 3 years ago