An Atonal State of Mind by David Hart

[ttomace]

Why is atonal music composed? What is the meaning in it? This is the 1st atonal music ive heard and id like to know what its all about. PS Im a listener of Baroque. Why did the people move from the Baroque styles and rules?

[alecman95]

the intro is too long in my mind..

but anyway : very good stuff man !

[surfchick94]

did you follow the twelve tone row? because i must say, there are times when i can almost hear a sense of key. almost.

[TaterGumfries]

Seems like a lot of atonal music is just bein real careful not to make any sounds might be taken for tonality. Awfully odd way to make music. Why not just choose some microtonal instrument so you don't have to worry about accidentally hittin II V I? Then you could just play the hell out of it.

[hartistry]

@TaterGumfries That's a good point. I have a difficult time

playing the entire piece atonally. I like a little mix of tonality.

Dave Hart

[ililil]

Great ...my brain loves it!

[hartistry]

too much melody too much rhythm too many harmonic chords!!!

[vaguelyhumanoid]

@hartistry Atonal music doesn't have to sound dissonant. If it's purely chromatic (as opposed to using chromatic accents while having a defined key) it's still atonal.

[hartistry]

@vaguelyhumanoid Thanks for the clarifications. Dave

[vaguelyhumanoid]

@hartistry You're welcome.

[MarcFarful]

I have some piano pieces you should listen to.

[hartistry]

@MarcFarful ok

[CaptainBluebear08]

and one could add franz liszt.

[hartistry]

Which piece(s) did Franz Liszt do that

were atonal? Dave

[CaptainBluebear08]

Nuage Gris is an excellent example, the 'Bagatelle sans tonalité' obviously, furthermore his almost unknown Via Crucis, viz. the IV Station and the awesome dissonant D and its environment.

The old Liszt was far ahead of his time. Arnold Schoenberg admired him and wrote an appreciating essay about him ("FL's Wesen und Wirkung"). This is very little known.

[hartistry]

@CaptainBluebear08 I am now listening to Alvaro Ordoñez Plays Liszt Nuages Gris

and it makes me want to create something in the same mode. When I was younger

I wasn't open to Schoenberg but as I have aged I am more open to him. Nuages Gris just ended. A short piece. Best Wishes to you for a beautiful summer!!!

DAve

[CaptainBluebear08]

@hartistry

: )

[Absurdist247]

wonderful

this is the first atonal experience for me .. and i liked it so much .. thanks

[hartistry]

It is not a very good example of atonal

music. there are short parts that are

atonal. I have the habit of always trying to

be harmonious and a little bit rhythmic.

[nvbaileys]

@Absurdist247 If you want more "true" atonal music i recomend Stockhausen, Xenakis, and Brouwer had some atonal works too. But good playing btw "hartistry".

[WwwLickonizerDe]

thanks for response,

atonal playing,,I think, must have a root tonality for in and out playing,

I think I have to study schönberg.

[WwwLickonizerDe]

Very interesting.

Is there any logical system for atonal playing?

[hartistry]

I would say the less logical the system

the better chances towards true

atonal playing.

[kasyapa]

neat playing. :) reminds me of scriabin. so what do you think is the organizational principle of atonal playing, if any?

[hartistry]

I think it should be as illogical as possible. No harmony, no melody, no rhythm one can tap a foot to. As Wacky as possible.

[kasyapa]

sounds creative!

[hartistry]

Thanks.!!!!!!

[hartistry]

@kasyapa I think the less the organization, the better an atonal piece.