Attacked and illegally detained for filming in Basildon Town centre a public place.

[JakeLeeVlog]

Hahahahaha, don't fuck with my home slice.

[DaneNGRP]

Mate, i live basildon and i'm gonna go into town and film random shit now so these pair of fairys try it with me, then im gonna either 1, explain the laws on filming and make them look stupid, or 2, smash the absolute shit out of them the second they touch me, as they would be assaulting me, therefore i would be acting in self-defense... take me to court + i win :)

[hyperjohnable]

Omg i will never going to travel to uk again

[surfdigby]

Just so you know, Advance Security are registered with the BSIA, who issued guidelines to all their staff last year regarding photography in public, so these guys KNOWINGLY lied to you, and knew full well they were acting out of their authority.

The guidelines were in a document called Photography & Hostile Reconaissance, and are available (with complete permission from the BSIA) online.

[surfdigby]

Whoa! "If you don't stop filming I will break it"

Did you show the footage to the policewoman that was there? This is almost a record number of offenses in under a minute.

[surfdigby]

You have to have a license unless you work for the police???

Bwa ha ha ha ha!!!

And where would I get a license from?

[LemonKurdish]

United Kingdom

Legal restrictions on

photography:

In general under the law of the United Kingdom one cannot

prevent photography of private property from a public place.

Two public locations in the UK, Trafalgar Square and Parliament Square have a specific provision against photography for

commercial purposes without permission.

Print that out and shove it that twats face

[MegaOptionzTV]

They have NO legal authority to approach you as you are in public. And they are NOT law..but anyway, they have got in front of your camera and thank you for sharing your video of their ugly mugs here on YT. If they kept their unauthorized noses out they wouldn't be on film.

[MegaOptionzTV]

The security guards obviously look too ugly for the camera and were frightened.

[abaduck]

1. You should have pressed charges against the security thugs, or at least required the police to take a crime report.

2. Concealed cameras - a pen camera in a shirt pocket for instance - are invaluable for recording what such thugs say and do one they think they've forced you to stop recording.

3. I'll have to make a point of visiting Basildon next time I'm in the UK. It's a real bugger when people like that try to manhandle someone with martial arts training...

[MrUNIXman]

They been brainwashed by the 911 attacks, too bad they have been very decieved in to thinking 911 was not an  inside Job

[eos1dmk2]

what concerning is people in security and positions of authority like this dont really have much knowledge of the law and where it stands on photographing in a public place. fact is, they cannot do anything other than make their concerns heard to you. best thing to do for anyone viewing this is to download the relevant acts of law, print it, along with some id (always be upfront) and keep it with at all times. once they have been informed that they legally have no control, kiss them goodbye

[LemonKurdish]

"i actually work for the police, il caution you in a minute" WHAT AN ABSOLUTE COCK!

[5worthington]

They need to go fuck themselves :D 

[moffe247]

Wankers, fuck 'em

[cuda2266]

Absolute thugs on a power trip, supposed to be there to protect us from crime yet they're criminals themselves

Power corrupts; absolute power corrupts absolutely

The camera is your only defence against these morons,

ALWAYS FILM!

[Ashitaka255]

Someone needs to actually sue so people get the message not to harass photographers.

[cabadejo]

OMG - They work for the police. You're not in a public place. You can't film. They are going to detain you in the middle of the High Street.

Unbelievable - but there it is on the film.

[1madaboutguitar]

The country is rapidly going down the toilet. People exercising powers of arrest without even knowing the law. Its a great time if your a control freak, it really is... not so good for the rest of us though, as we watch on, witnessing the authority becoming the 'terrorist' in our society.

[videogangstar]

wow!!!!! did you tell the police you was assaulted ????????? disgraceful !!!

[mikesomething]

i hope you sent this video to their managers at wherever they worked

[25242824]

as soon as hed put his hand on me i would have smashed his fucking head in then started going to town on his bent friend!!

[PowerfulProducti0nz]

it's not about where you're filming m8, it's about who you're filming. I'm not sure about australia, but it is illegal to film police officers during an arrest in many many places.. With good reason too, just be smarter next time. I will admit that "license" bullsh*t was made up and those two guys are dickheads, just be carefull with that stuff, when they approach you with their cocky authority things can get outta hand :/

[surfdigby]

@PowerfulProducti0nz This is in the UK, and it's perfectly legal to film the police on duty. It even says so on their website.

These two guys aren't even police, so no powers.

[PowerfulProducti0nz]

@surfdigby Ok, well I didn't know that, like I said. I also didnt know if they were police or not, I was just suggesting.

[LaParkanation]

Hey BillyBoy, sod these guys. As a film maker I know what sort of rubbish, ignorance and stupid attitudes you can try to run into just being out in public with a camera. Stick to your guns man and don't take any guff from these swine.

[chazblighty]

no ifs or buts you must take this further,report it to the police ,they have assaulted you ,they have caused criminal damage by way of a broken camera ,they have also made threats against you,these brain dead fools have been told they have these powers and the idiots believe it ,,get on to some of these websites for some good guidance,freedom rebels network ,tpuc,british constitution party, don"t stand for it.

[Killamatrix243]

this makes no sense these cockheads are just gonna grab you and go like "OH YOU CAN'T FILM HERE BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE A LICENSE" like what? the world sucks balls compared to this how do you need a license to film in the public? wowwwww sorry dude

[supercoolawsome]

why the hell would you film people getting arrested? they do have the right to detain you, and every single one of them has the right to sue you, by slandering their image which may result in future income loss due to this video. more importantly why be a fucking dickhead and film people in this situation. if you did that in Australia you'd get bashed by every ethnic group present as we respect one another.. btw I have received a legal education so i do know what i'm talking about

[travellingboy1]

@supercoolawsome You are wrong in Australia like the UK it is legal to film anyone or anything in a public place or from a public place. Why do you want to bash someone for filming you? Have you something to hide? Wherever you got your legal education you should go back and demand a refund as you do not know what you are talking about, like the 2 security guards in this video you are clueless.

[supercoolawsome]

@travellingboy1 champion are you retard? it is plain rude to film somebody and my legal education is super legit... so you sir are obviously out ranked 

[mrsuperbafrango]

@supercoolawsome your a fucking moron .....fact

[supercoolawsome]

@mrsuperbafrango you sir a smelly uk citizen who is mad about their immigration policy

[mrsuperbafrango]

@supercoolawsome im fully aware as an australian your family tree mostly consists of rapests, bread stealers and savage grub eating bush dwelling natives.....so im willing to forgive the smelly comment......

[LaParkanation]

@mrsuperbafrango hey, don't knock Australia because of that retard you fucking paedo

cunt.

[mrsuperbafrango]

@LaParkanation how could i possabily "knock" a country with only 3/4 of a flag.....but dont worry you can borrow ours to fill in the gap......i hope you alcoholic sheep shagging fucks never get the ashes back!...

[LaParkanation]

@mrsuperbafrango eh, have to let your country of homosexuals and pakis have the ashes once in a while. Looked like you guys were fixing to off yourselves, consider it an act of charity.

Funny that you can't even spell in your own language. I take it you are a moron even by the incredibly low, effeminate standards of poms. But hey, at least you have nice weather and attractive wome- .... oh ... nevermind.

[mrsuperbafrango]

@LaParkanation if your going to get personal .......i should warn you

..a dingo stole my baby!.....

barbies and barely-concealed racism do not count as culture mate...

[LaParkanation]

@mrsuperbafrango you mean the baby your drugged up chav girlfriend gave birth to in order to get on welfare?

I agree on the culture front but well ... whining about everything and dogging doesn't make a culture either. But hey, if you want to wait in line in a field to fuck an obese, haggard housewife after 17 other men have had their go who am I to knock it.

Dude, I don't even hate the poms .... half of you are tolerable. The other half are unfortunately like you.

[mrsuperbafrango]

@LaParkanation lmao@chav girlfreind comment ...damn it you know us brits so well! ....maybe you should come to the uk and work behind a bar like every other ozy does ...hehe

[surfdigby]

@supercoolawsome I'd get a refund from your school, as you're wrong. Private security have no powers in a public place. There's also no such thing as a filming license.

[thatmanfromyorkshire]

Tossers

Oh this winds me up big style,id of said touch me at your peril now rock on ya corporate muppets.

[MinhiNug]

This sickens me. Hahah. They are so stupid they have no right to do that.

[xXDrunkTOTALXx]

lol wankers!

[iandavidclarke]

Dear Billyboy. I have contacted the echo regarding this and have sent them the link. They may be in contact with you. (just make sure they don't take a picture of you if you are in public...joking)

regards

Ian

[iandavidclarke]

This is disgusting. Can't film in a public place. I can believe that a shop may ask you to not film in their store but mr team eastgate seems to have swallowed some jumped up twit pills.

I have shared this vid on my Basildon memories page on facebook to show how basildon has changed, i hope you don't mind fella. When I see that guard I will get my camera out and start filming him. I am twice his size, lets see him wrestle me.lol

[geofferzh79]

a security guard, to give a caution??? the terrorism law.. fuck you

[BUMSahaa]

i would like you to see this buddy /watch?v=hUVkw7VWnZY&feature=r­elated

[Richieoldskool]

So if he continued to grab the camera or physicaly hold or grab you could you legally defend yourself by punchin him right oan the fukkin dial

[filiremix]

Did I correctly hear one of the guards say that he works for the police and proceed to caution you? If so, i would have laughed in his face. Photography and filming in any PUBLIC place is legal in the UK - the only places that require a license or permission to photograph or film for commercial purposes ONLY are Trafalgar Square, Parliament Square and The Royal Parks. I too would have pressed charges for the assault that took place in the video as well as false imprisonment had they detained you

[SuperPingvinen]

now why the fuck would you waste time filming at a place like this?

[williamorwell]

@SuperPingvinen Why do you waste time asking stupid questions?

[SuperPingvinen]

@williamorwell rofl the irony with you william...

[JunkieJay3000]

The private security sector must be the first port of call for employment for those who are too mentally inadequate to pass the police force's aptitude test. And that's saying something given the low level of intelligence of most of the newer generation of police officers.

[xenbay]

I've seen this argument before over whether shopping centers constitute public places, as other youtubers have also been prevented from filming or busking on the grounds its private property.

[AMORANTORI]

great thread and informative posts.

[waynermyers]

You have it all recorded on camera, you were detained against your will for a non criminal offence, believe me you have a case in any court for wrongful imprisonment or false arrest. You civil rights were violated. They will be hoping you don't report them let me tell you. I worked in loss prevention for 14 years and i would have just left you to it.

[09002104t]

go back there and film again. i would

[cplsyx]

If this ever happens to you again, don't stop filming and call 999.

Inform the operator you are being assaulted and when the police officer arrives explain the situation, show your video and the law is on your side.

Even if the officer doesn't know, the law states that it is legal.

As soon as YOU are the one to call the police, you watch those security guards change their tune!

[MrBillyt12345]

what a pair of dickheads, u should have just kept filming and kept walking away and every time they touched you make sure it is recorded and charge them with assault, and if the cop said he was not going to arrest them make him on his oath!! these little hitlers on minimum wage need to realise they have absolutely no power over anyone

[ksm1985]

good video cheers for the upload,

[hudihuds]

diz video shocked me after "advanced" guard says: can`t film it here, u dont have a licence....

[youlawmaster]

EVERY case is ALWAYS only as good as the VICTIM asserts in his WITNESS STATEMENT/s [+ Statements of WITNESS/es] + POLICE Report + MEDICAL Report + Specialist Report [if necessary - if your Clinical Depression is very bad].

You aso have the option to go to the LOCAL newspaper to report the UNACCEPTABLE CRIMINAL behaviour to them.

What do YOU want as an ACCEPTABLE outcome?

APOLOGY?

COURT CASE?

COMPENSATION?

LETTER FROM CHIEF OF POLICE?

LETTER FROM LAWYER?

SPECIFIC ACTION?

ADVICE?

[youlawmaster]

It is a way to claim Invalidity Benefit + for the Security Company to have to pay to compensate u [the money would come from the Security Company Insurance company if u were to be successful].

It ALL depends on ur witnesses & ALL the evidence.

It is ALWAYS important to put together YOUR WITNESS STATEMENT that explains precisely everything that happened from the very BEGINNING to the very END - with as much detail as possible!

If necessary go to ur GP to report the matter + get tablets

[youlawmaster]

If he said he was going to break the camera - that is a THREAT!

HARASSMENT is a CRIME!

If you were to go to your GP because you were TRAUMATISED due to the highly STRESSFUL situation that might have caused you CLINICAL DEPRESSION - LOSS of SLEEP - NIGHTMARES + unable to get up + very short tempered etc. [classic symptoms] you could get DAMAGES i.e. compensation for EVERYTHING that you have suffered... everything that you have lost... [such as LOSS OF EARNINGS or LOSS OF OPPORTUNITY...]

[youlawmaster]

You performed an excellent PUBLIC SERVICE - as you brought to the attention of BRITISH people who now regularly check the Internet & have discovered the unbelievable IGNORANCE of PSCOs & Security Guards who DO NOT have a clue as to what the LAW might be...

Perhaps they have seen too many trashy US programmes where it might have appeared in their fantasy understanding of law that the POLICE could do whatever they wanted - fortunately, YOU KNOW that THE POLICE are governed by THE LAW!

[thestaunt]

Lol he knew he was goin to look a prick on u tube! Gratz,

[Pitcairn2]

What a couple of WANKERS!

[ukarmyuk1]

lol funny shit dumb people

[lumpfish99]

@TheAwokenMind occupy london stock exchange october 15th. please share.

[TheDavethedead]

we should get every one ready to stand up and counted and all head down there day after day with whatever cameras we can find in protest to this bullying

[smallblueclouds]

What a pair of jumped up little idiots.

Quite why you don't sue them is a mystery ?

[sGxMilLHouSe]

nice teeth cunts

[DoctorEnzo]

HAHAH caution you he is not a cop. His caution is not the worth the paper its written on.

I would fucking sue him and his company and have criminal procedings brought for assault and impersonating a police officer and damagng your equipemnt, maybe some human rights violations also. If you want the MD of the companies home address send me a tell I would write to him direct

[thomasjmahoney]

The guy on the right should have his licence on display. There are penalties for working without displaying your licence. The guy on the left claims he works for the police. Is he a police officer/pcso or police staff? He works in conjunction with the police, not for them. There is no problem with taking still images or moving images (Filming) in a public place. It is not an offence, unless it's private land. He has no need to caution you as you have committed no offences.

[wanderingbillyboy]

I know I could sue the one who said I was being detained and then tried to smash my camera. He actually said "I will break it" you can hear it on the video. When I told them they had no right to hold me, one of them said if I tried to go I would be taken to the ground and restrained . If I was younger I would have tried.but I have enough aches and pains already. I think they now realise that what they did was wrong, I hope they see the video and can learn from their mistake.

[lumpfish99]

@wanderingbillyboy i hope they see the video and then go to work and get fired because their boss saw the video too.

[youlawmaster]

Security Guard had NO LEGAL RIGHT to: ASSAULT you: DETAIN YOU; WRONGFULLY ARREST YOU; ILLEGALLY IMPRISON YOU [NOT allowing you to go where you wanted to go on the High Street!]; to HARASS YOU (Protection from Harassment Act 1997) , Perpetrate Threatening Behaviour + Public Order Act 1986 crim offence of HARASSMENT, ALARM, DISTRESS (sec 5 POA 1986) + they committed Breach of the Peace in a Public Place. [In theory you had every right to defend yourself under CLA 1967 section 3 to arrest them!].

[youlawmaster]

In theory you could sue the employers of the Security Guards get DAMAGES (compo) in CIVIL LAW - in NEGLIGENCE (i.e. TORT LAW - i.e. CIVIL WRONGS) [Duty of Care to act as REASONABLE Security Guard would be expected to work - not go around High Street acting as Callous Cowboys - Reckless disregard of LAW - Breach of Duty of Care - Employee Security Guards NOT being trained peoperly or at all...] for the many breaches of LAW they perpetrated against you + you have evidence from your video cam.

[youlawmaster]

Go to LEGAL ADVICE CENTRE or LAW CENTRE or Citizen's Advice Bureau (CAB) [but only if they have a Solicitor who is prepeared to see you!]

You could always go to a Solicitor in the High Street & ask if they do "NO WIN - NO FEE".

If they had damaged your camera or done damage or perpetrated Defamation or did something to affect your Reputation in front of someone else then it is worth thinking of doing something.

You can always just go in to see Solicitor with ALL evidence + Police REPORT OK

[roaringwaterbay]

@wanderingbillyboy what did these two frumps say after the police said it was your right to film?

[roaringwaterbay]

@wanderingbillyboy my take is folks with an idiot mindset don't make very receptive learners.

[FunkeeDrewster]

If this man detained you against your will you could sue him under common law. They are talking a load of old bollocks and are trying to intimidate you because they think they have powers that they do not have. Technically he is guilty of assualt and possibly criminal damage if the camera was damaged and you have recorded the evidence so you could sue him if you wished. You can film anywhere in a public place whenever you wish.

[FunkeeDrewster]

First and foremost these security guards are not policemen they are private employees of a company and have no authority over you whatsoever. so even if it was unlawful to film in a public place which it is not, they could do nothing about it anyway. You do not need permission and there is no terrorism law in existence, only a terrorism act which is not law unless you consent to it. Also how can a private worker caution or detain you? he is not a policeman! Tbc.....

[thomasjmahoney]

@FunkeeDrewster You do not need to be a police officer to issue a caution to someone. Anybody can do it. You have to issue a caution when there is evidence that an offence has been committed and grounds for arrest/detention are apparent. This is to let the offending person know what their rights are. TV Licensing officer can caution, revenue protection officers can caution. It's just the way our legal system works in england.

[MustaffaCuppa]

@thomasjmahoney Exactly what offence do you think was committed here? None that I can see.

As for TV licensing, that is just a corporation & nothing whatsoever to do with the laws of the land...

[photo2wrush]

@FunkeeDrewster the photography part section 44 was revoked and does not exist no more

[underterraingrunter]

I listened to a few seconds of these jokers and started laughing. These ignorant fools just make it up as they go along. This kind of behaviour is causing people to enter into Lawful Rebellion. I agree with kondor1001. These guys need to be subjected to mass filming. Get their faces on youtube from every angle. Are we asked before a security camera catches our image? Of course not, that's because it isn't illegal you silly little blueshirts.

[kondor1001]

Personally I think we should all turn up outside there in a months time or so and peacefully film as much as we want.

[61shirley]

discusting, they cant arrest you, the wankers, they make me mad

[dooley169]

its not illegal to film in publc... who do those 2 idiots think they are anyway, just because they are wearing a crap uniform

[policecrimecom]

In America when a person assaults you we have the right to put a bullet in that persons head.