Hookin chains in the grass 01Cummins vs 79 F250 460 BBF

[jamesandrewjohnson]

But then you get to the gearing. The Cummins makes that 505 ft lbs at 1,400 RPM. On the other hand, the Ford makes its 500 at 4,600 RPM. This means that if both trucks are geared so that the tires spin at 1,000 RPM at peak torque and both trucks have the same tires, the Ford will put 2300 ft lbs to the wheels, but the Dodge will only put 707 ft lbs to the wheels. The torquier Cummins makes its power too low, and USABLE torque in the Ford is 3.25x greater, consequently.

[lovercarlin]

OUCH TRANSMISSION



[codyyamaha1]

hook them up on on the road and that ford wont no what happened

[cubkid411]

@codyyamaha1 That dodge didnt know what happened on the grass. Id put my money on the ford on the pavement to.  The big bad cummins aint got shit. You want a good diesel, buy a new 6.7 FORD built Powerstroke.

[bigblockbogger]

i cant tlk shit on that dodge cuz i got one but u cant bead those ford runnig gears and differentials they had in the late 60s andall 70s

[ZeroSixOne]

I have a 97 F250 with a fuel injected 460. I wanna have a go against the Dodge next!

[DTOMUSA74]

@6detroitdiesel5 You have to remember that any 6.0 Vortec has at least 13 more years of technology in it than an '86 460 and even more on the older 454 you mentioned. The newer motors are much more effecient and being fuel injected, gets off the line much better. I would still take an old big block over the new stuff any day of the week. I know how many miles a 460 can go.

[hondatmaxx]

460 all the way. i like how people say they love dodge because of their diesel even though they dont even make cummins but ford does make the 460:} ford all the way

[Twizztify]

@hondatmaxx not only that but they're also the only ones now that make their own diesel

[stingraystud]

@Twizztify and it shows, they are weak and unreliable 

[arnoldt14]

everyone stfu about how the 460! The ford had locked differentials while the dodge was running open differentials. The fact that the dodge was even putting up a fight was because the cummins is such a monster. If the dodge had locked differentials it would be dragging the ford around all day and the driver would forget he was still hooked up to the ford.

[fordkid65]

lmao nice ford! really gave that pile of tin a run for its money.....with 30 year old technology. wish they still made them like they used to.

[s46d45m17]

I have a dodge and I have a ford the dodge has a 360 gas and the ford has a 390 out of a 67 mustang gt I like both of them, the dodge is all stock and runs pretty good but the ford with the 390 and 4.11 rears and 4 spd can go from 0 to a 110 really quick, as far as pulling goes the dodge would probably do better with a longer wheel base and a posi rear but the ford has the power but could probably not get hooked up.

[emgpickups1990]

@ohiomonsters1990 I do love those 'ol fords. My grandfather has a 78 4X4 351M 400. Its a hell of a truck

[crispers4life444]

ford sounds like my generator

[FoxBodyMike87]

all you ppl who hate cummins but like ford...CUMMINS IS A FORD PRODUCT!!!!

[skatertanner]

Ford 460s are one of the best.... Can't beat em

[Radatatify]

how far is the dodge from stock?

[DrMcelroy]

johntrebec... Do you always state the obvious like that, that was kinda funny

[DrMcelroy]

johntrebec... Lol, yes my man, you are right. Posi is almost just as good as a locker, the only difference is that a posi unit has clutches that can burn out, but they are very reliable for the most part. A locker is awesome cause its always ingaged, the only time it wont turn both tires is if an axle breaks. '67-'79 Fords are usually good about both front tires turning in 4low without a locker, i always put one in the rear and went on with er

[emgpickups1990]

@DrMcelroy Hell, in low range almost all of thsoe fords would lock up all 4 without posi or a locker, jusst cuz of the sheer TQ

[Mr390cid]

@DrMcelroy Posi is locker.Posi means positive lock either by an automatic mechinisim or by an activation switch.Example, Chevys come with a factory locker made by eaton. They are also called a gov locker because the locker has a weight that centrifically moves and locks the rear automatically when 100 rpm difference is acheived between the rear wheels due to spinning. LSD (limited slip diffs) have many clutches that just apply resistance to the slip[ping wheel but will not lock

[TheCummins1122]

round 2 pavement.

[DrMcelroy]

Blazerlover25... You dumbshit, Not Fair?? Are you serious? That Dodge diesel weighs almost 8000lbs, ive got one, i know... The '79 Ford weighs around 6000lbs at the most, ive got one, i know. The ford may have lockers, who cares, the Dodge has Posi trac so wtf. If its not fair in any way its because the Dodge has so much of an advantage. What an idiot.

[johntrebec]

@DrMcelroy 1 locker is better then 1 posi track, 2 lockers are even better then 1 locker.

[DrMcelroy]

86f150I... Well no shit his tires were spinning and losing traction, he was getting drug backwards. Thats like saying" i wouldnt have got stuck in the mud if i hadnt spun my tires". He lost because the Ford was getting a better bite.

[blabla3o]

what year is the dodge?

[jp23jd]

both nice trucks!!!

[Powerstroke380]

i have a 460 and this vid is no suprisecause that ford has a ton of low rpm power

[mudog35]

what kinda car is that ?

[blazerlover25]

well this wasnt a fair tug of war in my opinion clearly the ford has locking axles and the dodge cant get any traction but i am sure if it was on even pavement the dodge would outpull unless the traction becomes an issue perhaps next time throw some weight in the dodge to make a fair pull still awesome video no matter what

[XdeathXpunchX]

I am FORD all the way but the dodge guy should have eased into the pull more. To 86godsmack obviously hes never drove a truck with a 460 in it haha. I can spin my tires on dry pavement all the through the gears if i wanna

[stankyshitz]

86godsmack you want fuckin torque dumbass

[ElCamino0to60]

this....was not the outcome i had expected.

[MrSteveandBen]

ford is the best...I have a 91 f.250 with the 460 in it and it runs better and looks better the any faggot ass dodge truck i see.....ford power...the best and always will be...ford POWER POWER FORD POWER

[fordboy5894]

lol too bad the 460 needed a full tank of gas to do that for 30 seconds

[86godsmack]

lol...yeah hook your turd ford that doesn't ahve the power to spin on grass vs a cummins with a/t that just spin.. you ford boys are pothetic..

[ProStreet83C10]

@86godsmack correction.....M/T :)

[emgpickups1990]

@ProStreet83C10 Yea. I mean, its wheels spinning in the video must be an illusion! Everyone knows a 460 cant spin the tires!! -_- Sarcasm intended

[canadiandieselcowboy]

@ProStreet83C10 no, correction. pathetic. with an A and the idea isnt to spin the tries, spining = no more traction, you just dig holes. hes probably got it in 4 low.

[xStealthxSniperx]

@86godsmack wow you really are the most idiotic fuckin pathetic piece of shit the world has ever seen. i thought ricers were stupid but you sir are really pathetic. Ford is better....stats dont lie.

[CedrikTheManiac00]

@86godsmack .....i think your the pathetic 1 thinking the brand is the problem here.....tire and gear ratio make th most of it.... hell a 4x4 ranger could probably pull a 2wd cummig i those situtation......seriously

[b00stedrust]

@86godsmack apparently you've never ridden or pulled anything with a BBF 460 with mods huh? they make TRQs bro.

[jp23jd]

@86godsmack typical ignorant asshole. Too lost in your own narrow mindedness to even make any sense. You don't want your tires to spin in a truck pull. dumbshit....

[86f150l]

@86godsmack acually that is why the ford pulled the dodge becuase it just spun and the ford grabed traction

[pete804]

@86godsmack learn to spell dumbass

[FORDGTFANATIC]

@86godsmack im gonna be honest that got me cracking up pretty good

[importsareforpussys]

@86godsmack hey stupid ass the 460 probly has 4times the low end grunt the cummapart does thats why it wasnt spinning he wasnt even throttling it if u listen the dodge is just gutless everything with a cummapart in it is gutless my buddies got a 76 f2 highboy thatd rip that pos dodge in two

[2istidmunkey]

@86godsmack WOW!!!! amazing how you still try to make it better for the cummins and you just make the burn sting even worse. If you new anything about dragging something with less power you use less gas because you actually don't want the tires to spin. Just be a good little chick and take it like one. Oh' and it's pathetic you idiot.

[XxthefailnessxX]

@86godsmack Its pathetic.. Good God. Learn to spell before you come and rant.

[jamesandrewjohnson]

@86godsmack Hold on a second, you can't even spell and we're the "pothetic" ones? The '69-71 460s made 365 hp and 500 ft lbs of torque. Given this '79 would only be 250 hp and 400 ft lbs. Is that not enough to spin to you? This '01 Cummins would still be more at 505 ft lbs, but only 245 hp.

[fordfan0817]

460's a beast fuck a dodge cum guzzler

[fordfan0817]

460's a beast fuck a dodge cum guzzler

[metalliman90]

Ford owns. Period. I can't stand Dodge's at all. i only own one, And it's better than i expected, but it's still a Dodge.

[lyfordtx]

great pull but that 460 has gone through a couple of rebuilds to that faithful i6turbo. Nice ford but that cummins will run circles around that gas guzzling big block...

[thomas9781]

That's y u don't just stomp on it, especially in the grass, as soon as the tires Break traction u r gonna start sliding

[bomdigi1]

looks about right 460's are torque monsters

[blaster696969]

hell yes

[50tbrd88]

Big Block>Diesel

[85raminator]

classic traction story had nothing to do with engine power, that ford had wider tires and they looked like A/Ts or M/Ts so it definetly got bite on the grass, on pavement i think the cummins would have prevailed but 460s are a torque monster so who knows

[duramax201]

does anything a duramax or powerstroke would have done any better

[dbrandinni]

WOW! Thats so unexpected lol FORD!! :D WOO!!!! I loved this tug, I dont even know who won, Think ford did but IT WAS CLOSE!!! EVENly matched lol

[1978mtb]

true I've noticed!!!!!!! but still the fact remains your truck was having a hell of a time trying TO GET good traction The video explains itself!!  and every video like this on youtube I've seen The one truck is a 3/4 ton and the other is a 1 ton dually. 3/4 ton vs 3/4 ton on grass that's fair! Its' a war of who had better traction!!!!

[1978mtb]

finally a fair tug of war and the dodge is not a dually!!!!! they are both 3/4 ton trucks. as I said before the only gas engines that will give a diesel a run for the money are big block v8s!!!!!! That 5.9 cum o part was having a hell of time there but they are torque monsters and the 460 fords are too!!!

[ProStreet83C10]

my truck wasnt having a hell of a time at all, it was because he had locked differentials and i was running open diffs on each end. Really not a fair tug

[77bajaf150]

@ProStreet83C10 ur the one who posted the vid...dont post it if u dont want to catch any shit

[85raminator]

@77bajaf150 or people could just not be douchebags, i delete bs comments on my videos

[penpen132]

@ProStreet83C10 excuses excuses

[ubuntunoobz]

@1978mtb not fair, the jord is 4wheel drive and the dodge is 2wd, plus the ford doesn't have the power to spin them over on grass......

[DTOMUSA74]

@ubuntunoobz If you knew anything about tug of wars, you would realize that you don't want to spin the tires. Spinning tires=loss of traction. The guy who is spins his tires tends to be the one that loses.

[rrb4826]

I see a stock dodge with an automatic pitted against a 4spd w/granny geared truck with aftermarket tires . Not a fair test. Put them on the street . My money is on the Ram all day..

[KLsemperFi7]

thats fucking shit, what does this accomplish? the dodge weighs probably another 1000lbs more and has a diesel engine and a little ford gasser is doing that? how about you fuckin numb nuts put it on pavement, freakin grass? real intelligent

[stonesifer88]

thats a pretty good match up ya they are both spinning in the grass so no one has the upper hand it have been better on the black top should be around same hp and tq

[wylieredneck]

DieselMX34 to the words strait from my mouth

[DieselMX34]

yeah those 460's are beast but nothing can touch the torque you can get out of a cummins

[snowrider440]

ya, this video proves nothing. The cummins just isnt getting traction, is all. I would rather have the 460 anyway though.

[73to79ford]

460 Fords are the best truck engines ever made. They can be built to make incredible amounts of power.

[JayandJenn07]

hell yes, gassers have a fighting chance !!! lol

[ndubb1]

i like the cummins, though i'd always prefer ford over anything dodge makes or uses. you can bascially build a cummins power band out of a 460

[sstroh08]

yea but for the same amount of money u can make a cummins have a semi's powerband lol

[ndubb1]

lol or you could just change the gearing and slap on a 14+ speed lol

[sstroh08]

yea that'll work too lol

[ReidHenderson]

That poor cummins sounds like a CHOKIN CALF MAN!

[73to79ford]

The 460 Ford is the better engine. A great truck and car engine.

[USMCfosho]

Cummins is the better engine, but Dodge's transmissions can't transfer the power to the wheels for shit

[dafunkmonster]

On grass and dirt, the only thing that matters is the tires you've got...if you can't grip, it doesn't matter how much power your transmission gets to the wheels.

[bullhauler79]

ford suck a** cummins is better

[ndubb1]

oh that must be why you just see the dodge spinnin and not moving forward..

[geneus23894c]

wish they still made 79 truck for chevy or dodge they were better trucks for a lot cheaper. That for probably cost a 1/4 of that dodge new.

And an 01 dodge he probably on third tranny, second rear end, who knows how many u joints lol, and probably need all new ball joints and bearings in front end buy now.

[foxyz125]

u put them on the pavement and that dodge is gonna brake a drive shaft

[moparmaniac84]

the guy in the diesel gunned it breaking traction and the guy in the ford just lugged it across. ford guy was smarter is all. put 'em on pavement and watch the carnage!

[vetteluvnh]

Let me start by saying I'm not a ford or mopar guy. These tug of war videos prove nothing over which is the better vehicle because there are too many factors involved, like surface compaction, surface regidity, tire composition, tread pattern, etc... So I don't understand why anyone is claiming a win or getting their panties in a bunch over a video that proves nothing. Enjoy it, it's just entertainment!

[BossHogg650]

i'd rather have that ram than that PIECE OF FUCKING SHIT ford..all you guys would put Ford's dick in ur asses if u could..

[seth351]

All you Dodge pussies are the same, why does cummins have to make your truck engine? why does Mercedes have to make the new Hemi? Because Dodge is for dumb fucks who can't think for themselves, so they have to use someone else's technology!!

[10mopman]

haha and who makes the powerstroke ??? ford no u dick head... who makes the dmax???? chevy no u dick head amen to america!!! white power!!

[blmh1959]

haha hell ya! ford owned that p.o.s. dodge

[Southernpride005]

beautiful f250. gasser will win everytime with that badass 460

[johntrebec]

@Southernpride005 not really, the engine may be big but only because it has to be to make that power and that power is only made at a higher rpm than a cummins. If both trucks had equal traction the cummins would be dragging the 460 around before the 460 could get started and the cummins would still last longer either way. The dodge also weighs at least 1000 pounds more than the ford.

[cadillacman028]

put the cummins in a 3/4 ton mid 80s chevy truck with the 6 speed stick shift and uve got a dependable monster

[jt4265]

that would be one hell of a rig

[2066241]

nothing like a good ford!!! i would rather have a 99 to 06 f-250 though nice ford crappy dodge!!!

[ProStreet83C10]

so do you just enjoy talking our your ass or what?

[2066241]

no just getting my point across that 79 probablly did better than my truck!!

[ubuntunoobz]

@2066241 thats not what your mom said last night in my dodge.

[R2RRancor]

1979 F250 w/ a 460 in it is an awesome truck. might have some overheating problems but its a great truck.

*****I am a dodge/cummins lover******, but that ford is beautiful.

[badassouthernboy]

Nothin like a good ol ford

dnt get me wrog cummins is a great motor jus the rest of the truck isnt tht great especially the trannys which like to go boom

[ProStreet83C10]

my tranny hasnt gone boom yet.........all stock with 128k miles on it and 350 hp pushed through it daily

[badassouthernboy]

damn your lucky our farm truck is a 2500 cummins stock and i drive a f250 wit the powerstroke nd the cummins tranny has went boom twice but its beefd up now while the strokers hasnt yet but mayb its jus a rare situation idk but both get used the same ways so idk lol

[MPLSTORM]

The company went through 4 transmissions on 3 ford trucks just last year alone! Fords are the worst trucks on the planet. Dodge is the best.

[badassouthernboy]

ok then why do dodges trannys pop b4 ford or GM why does the new powerstroke have a better towing capacity and if fords so bad y is dodge nd gm cryin for money and y does ford have the best selling trucks

[MPLSTORM]

Dodge trannys are the same as GM and Ford its just with Dodge you have twice the power and torque as GM and Ford so yeah. Dodge4life

[chevyblazer1987]

my nehbor has a dodge and he has had the tranny rebuilt twice, and it dosn't even have 100,000 MILES!!!!

[kbutak302]

My old boss had a '96 Ram w/ V10. I think he was on his 3rd or 4th trans when I last knew him! Even a c6 or AOD can do better than that!

[woodman1241]

yea my uncle had a 3/4 ton dodge gasser and the tranny went boom at 60000 miles

[stickfishy]

@ProStreet83C10 if it's an auto tranny it will go around 150,000-170,000, but if it's a stick you cant beat it. ive seen alot of dodge tranny's go right around 160,000 but my buddy put 6 in his 97 befor he hit 180,000

[AuuntyJ]

the manual transmissions are good, the dodge auto trans's are absolute shit tho

[godofwarz]

ya thats true the manuals last forever if u drive em right but if u got alotof mods u'll need a dual disc clutch n ur golden but ya i kno several dodges havin to replace auto trans and front ends almost fallin out (2wd weldin truck) but ive seen em last too so idk w/e reason it is not a reason to not get a cummins =)!

[gunman50cal]

old doesn't always it's shit

[383jeep7]

Nothing like the old ford stump pullers!

[Onco400]

I will say props to you for posting a video of a Dodge losing a pulling contest. The Cummins owners I know like to talk a bunch of crap until they destroy parts while hooked to a Ford, then mysteriously nobody had a camera... lol.

[ProStreet83C10]

yup, however i dont have money for broken parts on pavement LOL!

[Onco400]

Send the Dodge home ... Bring a real truck to hook to a Ford ... you got played. Let's not even talk about the age and weight difference there. NEXT!

[dodgedude101]

tires play a factor there...put them on pavement that cummins would pull that ford around

[Onco400]

Yeah pavement... because that's where 4wd trucks belong...

[dodgedude101]

no i'm saying the cummins have work tires so on pavement is where the traction will be for those tires not in durt

[MapleStreetAmerica]

dude obviously the Dodge "won" but for having a 30 year diff that old Ford RAPED that dodge.

[mvoffroad]

YEAH!! can't touch the 460 BB!! FORD BABY!!!

[ProStreet83C10]

yeah....too bed he had a downhill advantage, a limited slip rear. He even said it wasnt really fair but it was fun regardless

[wyomingacres]

gotta love a big block 460 haha srry dodge

[Puddelz69]

thats pretty fair... do it on pavement

the 460 is the powerhouse behind the 454 in gas engines... those 2 will pull anyting a deisel will

[ProStreet83C10]

i agree but i dont know if id say ANYTHING a diesel will...ive seen many a stock diesel pull well over 35,000 or 40,000 lbs. But yeah, those big lbock gas motors do have nice pulling power, just not the economy of a diesel LOL!

[lopezhjhvj]

you got wup

[ProStreet83C10]

i have aggressive tires on it, but i was competing against with limited slip/posi units in his diffs compared to my 2 open axles.

[blackblaze91]

its not about who has more power. its about who has more traction. if the cummins has some aggressive tires that would have dug into the dirt he would have had a better chance. but obviously the ford had better traction.

[ProStreet83C10]

exactly....it was more of a who has more traction....the ford had a lmiited slip rear end and i had ope axles on both ends....if it were on pavement id walk away with him in tow

[slowscort]

how both a tie? the ford pulled him

[YannaDiesel]

Traction the whole time.

not power.

the Cummins owns in power.

[linamar123456]

nice video, both a tie.