Well, lets see. College students routinely engage in loud, disruptive, parties, alcohol, drugs, and similar rowdy behavior. Oh yea. Irresponsible morons like that really need to be armed with deadly weapons. <- heavy sarcasm.
@stewartx5 oh yeah, and black people routinely engage in gang activity and shoot each other and have huge dicks. and asians routinely engage in studying math and going to MIT and have tiny dicks. You're being very biased and bigoted about what you're saying. Its against the law to carry a gun and be under the influence of drugs/alcohol. any law abiding citizen with a gun respects firearms and is responsible enough to carry them, otherwise they couldnt get a carry permit. get educated man...
Good grief. You have those things on your mind and then call me a bigot? Your bigotry (read the definition) even extends to your comments about law abiding citizens - not all respect firearms and are responsible enough to carry them.
By the way, educate yourself, man. in many states, one doesn't need a permit to carry a weapon. In those open carry states, a permit is needed only for concealed carry.
OKAY LET ME PUT IT LIKE THIS!. WHY ARE YOU PROTESTING AND DEMANDING RIGHTS TO CARRY A GUN ON CAMPUS? YOU KNOW THEY'RE GOING TO SAY NO. AND THEN WHAT? YOUR GOING TO SAY OKAY AND NOT DO IT AND KEEP PROTESTING IT? IF YOU FEEL IT CREATES A SAFER EVIORENMENT FOR YOU AND FELLOW STUDENTS GET YOUR PISTOL PRACTICE AT THE RANGE OFTEN AND CARRY CONCEALED ON YOU WETHER ITS AGAINTS THE RULES OR NOT. STOP BEING SUCH A SHEEP BY ALLOWING OTHER SHEEP TO NOT ALLOW YOU TO BECOME A WOLF. (but dont load wolf ammo)
lol how come all these people are attacking university and colleges. couple of years from now you will probably need to sign a death contract to go to school.
You should just lie down and take it. No citizen should ever posses the tools of violence. Some of us are just going to have to die as we become a more and more civil society over time. Those that perish are civil societies growing pains.
@lionneedshistiger haha you will never get the criminals, small minded gang members, robbers, burglars, terrorists, or any other group fueled by hatred to lie down and take it, thats the way that we let government get out of hand. lie down and take it and overtime that will become the only thing we can do.
I see both sides to the argument. although i do understand that a "no gun zone" won't stop someone who wanted to make another VT tragedy, part of me wonders if there will be more murders that happen out of impulse.
You don't think having a gun will make you safer don't carry one. I'm tired of school officials who come up with plans and policies that do nothing. People die and all they say is they did everything possible. No they didn't! There are responsible students and staff who should be allowed to carry weapons to prevent violence. You think someone will randomly be shooting up the place if they know they'll get a fight. Virginia Tech once the little punk encountered the cops he killed himself.
these people are insane, guns will be used irresponsibly if everyone had one, shit happens, people get murdered. only a small proportion intend on causing crime so not everyone needs a gun
@tangoseal1 basically the result of guns being legal creates more problems than benefits. people use the shitty self defence argument, but the chances of anything happening to them or ever needing the gun is so small, its not worth having the large amount of guns in the society. the ends dont justify the means...
And what evidence do you have to back this? I would argue against this claim. Look at Soviet Union under Stalin and Lenin, Look at Germany under Hitler, look at the UK after their gun ban, look at China under Mao Zedong, the list goes on. All those peaceful leaders disarmed their nations and then went about committing mass genocide.
Also look at FBI crime statistics. An armed populace has a major reduction in crime over an unarmed sheeplike society where criminals have guns.
@MrThedudeman1 think of a gun like a condom, better to have one and not need it then need one and not have it.
But enlighten me what problems do guns cause? If you want to use that line of thinking cars cause way more problems than guns, yet I bet you are not willing to give up yours.
They dont want teachers and students to be armed? How about the wacko killers? Its ok for them to carry? When will these idiots learn. Criminals will still carry guns on campus, you pathetic sheep. Maybe this is Darwin at work?
GUYS all stupid anti gun people go look up this country "Switzerland" THEY HAVE THE LOWEST GUN CRIME RATE IN THE WORLD!They issue rifles to every home train them! And after their Serivece they can buy their rifle and have it converted to Semi-Auto GUN CONTROL IS BAD!!!! Also watch Cops they dont care about laws they pull machetes out of peoples car and yet most states allow 3-4 inches on blade?Tell me who commits the crimes the guy that owns guns legally or the one that buys them off the street?
@Tux3d0 the biggest city in Switzerland is geneva and it only has like a million people and it's handgun policies are pretty harsh which is where the debate is the reason it's considered the most armed country cause of it's large amount of rifles (not AK's or Uzis mind you) im not trying to argue with you so dont respond i dont care i just wanted to tell you the strict facts im not even telling you what i think of that information
BIG PICTURE: Lobbyist buys politician so the politician votes for tax cuts for the rich so the rich can create more jobs. The rich create more jobs but abroad(cheaper work force). At home no new jobs, more poor people, poverty leads to hopelessness and crime. More crime more people go to prison, prisons are owned by corporations more tax money for corporations=WIN WIN scenario. More crime, so more people buy guns for protection, gun company is owned by the same corporation=WIN WIN WIN scenario
HOME OFFICE RECORDS: in 1997/1998 there was approx 4500 gun related "crimes" in the UK. In 2007/2008 there was 9500.... so 1 year later it halved did it? ERM NO
There are so many bullshit stats out there used by anti-gun groups to show drops in gun related inncidents. Before the UK ban you had to log a call with the Police if you changed ownership, thats a "gun related inncident" according to the anti-gun groups statistics!
Funny story. I went and took a gun safety class so I could apppy for a CCW permit. I've had a gun for awhile. When my 23 yr old step daughter saw where I took the class, she told my wife that it worried her that I wanted the permit--that I would be dangerous... I said "Damn, how is it worrysome that I would have a permit?" You'd probably have a hard time killing someone with a permit... How is it more dangerous to have a pemit than to have a gun? I don't need a gun to hurt or kill someone..jeez
I don't get it. My buddy joined the Marines right out of high school and was sent overseas and fought for our country with a gun. I am 23 years old and have a state issued CCW permit but can't conceal carry to my class at my university. Go figure.
Here in the UK our handgun ban in 1997 was supposed to reduce crime and gun relate deaths significantly......... its risen year on yea until recently when we saw a tiny drop in 2004 or so.... then it shoots back up again.
You show me ONE country in the world where a blanket gun ban successfully removed guns from the hands of criminals and I'll support it. Until then FUCK THE STUPID IGNORANT LIBERALS
@brennenderopa Yessir. EVERYWHERE that concealed carry laws have been enacted, crime plummets 30-50% in the very next year or two, and stays low after that.
The extensive background checks prior to license approval, the training courses and continued qualifying follow-ups, and the extra responsibilities placed on CCW license holders ensure that only very good citizens can acquire and maintain their license.
Nope they don't want students and staff to carry weapons...they would rather have them dead to further thier idiotic agenda to make themselves "feel better" (and ignore reality)
The stereotypical liberal feminist was right, guns, especially in the hands of students, does NOT make the campus safer.
In fact, even guns in the hands of the cops does little to keep the campus safe. However, just like a gun in the hands of a cop, a gun in the hands of a student keeps that student, and every single person around him or her. Having more people with more guns, simply means there will be more safe zones in a dangerous world.
The safest place in town is in a crowd of open carrying gun owners. No gangster would even dare try anything. Just think if criminals knew that most every person is armed.You can carry a gun but you can't carry a cop.
Yes I head of Columbine,If some Whacked out person gets a hold of a gun that STILL foesn't make the Gun bad,We don't want to ban Matches because an Arsonist Killed a bunch of People do we?,Or Kitchen knives are one of the MOST USED weapons of opportunity os ANYTHING watch any Murder show....Want to ban the old Ginsu because it is used as a weapon?, Cars have been Murder weapons, hell a POT Roast was used in a Murder on Alfred hitchcock gonna ban POT ROAST?
Stano, Danny rolling Ted Bundy,NONE of them wanted Students Armed, ALL of them were serial Killers,think if one of those Women had a weapon in their purse it would have saved their LIFE?>
Read this Stano was never charged. He was most active in Florida and New Jersey. By his 29th birthday, he was in prison for murdering 41 women. He was housed with fellow serial killer Theodore Bundy until his execution in 1998.
i absolutely agree that if a student passes a background inspection and is given a license to carry a gun they should be able to carry one even go as far as making them carry one in plain sight so they can be monitored by faculty
@reap62 EVERY DICTATOR AGREES with you!, Hitler,Stalin,Pol Pot Mao Tse Tung,Ghadaffy,Saddam Hussein,
They ALL Had Gun Control in their Countrys they took over,IDIOTS like you are the reason OUR rights have been taken away,There were NO LIMITATIONS put on Gun ownership in OUR Constitution.
How about this Pal,Lets put a BIG SIGN in YOUR Front Yard like this.
I BELIEVE in GUN CONTROL So CRIMINALS PLEASE NOTE THERE ARE NO FIREARMS ON PREMISES.
@obamabasher1 ok first of all what? second of all im anything but a liberal dude, i think they're the most hypocritical scummy morons on the planet and third i don't believe there should be any gun control i believe everyone should be able to have a gun as long as they're capable of holding one but yes i do believe that places like say college campuses should have the right to at least screen the students backgrounds, ever heard of the colombine shooting and that was just a high school.
You said, "college campuses should have the right to at least screen the students backgrounds,"
A quazi-governmental institute being allowed to access your personal information and being allowed to force you to undergo some "guilty until proven innocent" proceedure would not only lead to severe misuse and abuse, but infringe upon the rights of every damn person who attempts to enter the campus. Public campuses and tax payer funded campuses. I would rather just take the risk.
@reap62 yup where some deranged students walked in and started shooting. I can bet that if other people (meaning adults of legal age to carry) were carrying and it was know it would have been a different situation...probably would of thought twice, not been able to kill as many, or heck they might of just set of the propane bombs......which would be a totaly different event. Im just saying. The public school don't have the right to screen...unless the student are minors..there you have a point
Try that kind of peaceful protest at a California collage and you will be pushed to the ground by a cop and a gun in your face after one of the stoned stupid liberals gets freaked out and reports you.
Pr0pr0, all those students will die anyways if they don't do anything about it. Which is worse, 5 people injured from misfires, or 300 killed before police arrive?
don't get me wrong, i like guns, i really do... but if guns are such a crime deterrant, then why does america have one of the highest crime rates in the world, and most years THE highest murder rate?
I don't live in your country so i don't really care if your student's have guns, but at least make factually accurate arguments plz? kthxbye.
@pr0pr0 First off, America is never the country with the highest murder rate. I guarantee that our neibor, Mexico, has a significantly higher murder rate than the US. If you look at states such as Vermont, they have some of the most open firearms laws in the country but yet their crime rate is one of the lowest, far lower than the national average. In Kennesaw, Georgia every citizen must own a firearm in the home and they have very low crime rate. It is the same story all over the country.
@YouDiddntSeeAnything You're right, I spoke out of my ass there. America is the 24th highest murder rate in the world, after 23 THIRD WORLD and unstable countries.
But no, don't let me interfere with your ignorance of the world, you seem to find comfort living a lie rather then doing something about it, and I don't want to take that way from you. Enjoy getting shot in a burglary when the guy robbing you has a gun because he knows you'll have one two.
@pr0pr0 okay, you're entitled to your own opinion and I'm fine with that. But why did you say that I was living a lie? That makes no sense what so ever. Anyway, In my opinion it should be an individuals right as to whether they own or carry a firearm and it isn't up to the state to dictate who has a right to defend themselves
@YouDiddntSeeAnything I said you are living a lie, because you state that america has the lowest crime rate in the world, while it's murder rate per-capita is amongst THIRD WORLD countries. That's not an opinion, it's fact.
In my first post I stated that I like guns, and I don't mind the idea of more people carrying them, but they sure as fuck shouldn't be bringing guns to SCHOOL. You do realize your country IS the only one in the world where school shootings aren't rare right?
@YouDiddntSeeAnything FURTHERMORE, you americans don't even seem to understand your own second ammendmant. The right to bear arms isn't supposed to be a license to be a gun toting redneck, it's a clause to allow state militia to fight against the government without repercussion should the government infringe on constitutional rights.
Reason 2 you are living a lie (along with your country men): No one is enacting their 2nd amendment right PROPERLY, when the world needs them too the most.
@YouDiddntSeeAnything Finally, I'll tell you what guns aren't good for. Being a fucking hero vigilante. Do you have any idea how many innocent bystanders are at risk when everybody pulls out a weapon to start "Shooting the bad guy"
What if the "bad guy" wasn't even armed with a gun, what happens to his due process?
But please, don't let my points stop you from sounding like an inbred hick, argue away.
@pr0pr0 The second ammendment says "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed" did you see that? it said the right of the people. If it is the right of the people to own firearms, it is the right of the people to decide which individuals can own them and the people say everyone. It can be read either way, but what it does say is the right of the people, so let the people decide
@pr0pr0 The people think that everyone should have the right to. Oh and for the record, I never said that America had the lowest crime rate in the world. I did say that the state of Vermont had one of the lowest in the country, not the world. I'm sorry if that was misunderstood. I'm not saying that people should bring guns to school, I'm saying that university and college students over the age of 21 who hold a CCW permit should have the right to Just out of curiousity what country are you from?
@YouDiddntSeeAnything Canada, not that it's really important. And despite what people like imax1971 up there tend to believe, our criminals don't tend to have guns up here at all. Because the civilians aren't armed to the teeth, the criminals aren't either, meaning violent crimes are greatly reduced, and tend to have a higher survivability rate.
@pr0pr0 well, I don't want to have any serious argument but saying that criminals don't tend to have guns in Canada is a bit ignorant. Oh, Canada is in the top ten for gun ownership worldwide, I think they're around 9ish I know it's somewhere around 30 guns per 100 people. That's only the legally owned firearms! I think that because there are so many factors that contribute to the level of gun crime in a country we may never see clear results supporting either side of the argument specificallly.
@pr0pr0 THANK YOU i am an american citizen from Boston's inner city and i am sick of these safe neighborhood dudes complaining that they dont have guns to make it a little safer while making MY home significantly more dangerous
alright let me set this shit straight alright? listen having guns on campus just makes it even more easier for one of these massacres to happen cuz guess what if someone walks into the school with a gun and its legal to carry guns on campus then no one is gonna be alarmed until they hear gunshots but if having guns on campus is illegal then when the person is spotted with a firearm people know to get the F**k outta there and call the cops
Re: BigSmokePolitics and they sit and cower and wait to see if the cops ever show up. Where if people are armed, and hear shots, they can cover themselves and others and wait with safety in case the shooting comes their way.
Better yet, if it's known that people might/will be armed, then a nut or criminal won't try anything! See how simple that logic is?
@rb2112002 Speaking as a student, I would be very uncomfotable knowing someone next to me had a gun on them in class. But it would never bother me knowing the teacher was armed. I'm not a sheeple I'm not afraid of people practicing their 2nd amendment rights, I just think we should think a little harder when it comes to schools, and be open for new ideas from both sides.
@EddieCubillo I wonder how many people are carrying on campus now? If someone was carrying concealed, they could be right next to you and you wouldn't know. You would not fear it, because you didn't know it. The point is, people think about concealed carry as an invitation to a "wild west" mentality. People are a lot smarter and calmer than you think. They will not start shooting over a harsh word or a bad grade. The biggest part of CC is avoiding confrontation to begin with.
@EddieCubillo I agree that there is a certain level of maturity required when you decide to carry a gun. I would agree that allowing school staff to carry is a good start. However, the law says that an adult (age 18 or 21, depending on local laws) is held to adult standards. He should have the same rights as any other adult on campus as he has off.
@rb2112002 Probably, but who knows maybe some of them have a brain and will realize it is not possible, and it is not logical. If you give people a chance to say their view and prove them wrong it might open their eyes.
@EddieCubillo I wish you were right, but this battle has been going on for a long time. Despite all the proof that guns are a deterrent to crime, the anti-gun sheeple still try to make us as helpless as they chose to be. They ban guns based on color, shape, the type of stock. They talk about "reasonable" or "common sense" laws. Gun laws have never reduced crime. Never has any type of prohibition ever worked. War on drugs, lost. War on alcohol, lost. Criminals just dont follow the rules.
@rb2112002 I was thinking the same thing man, these liberals are full of shit. And hey someone else who says sheeple! But it's not that easy, people have different views on this, and this is a democracy so unfortunately the right choice isnt the popular one. Most people are just devoid of common sense nowadays.
@EddieCubillo You have fallen victim to their worst lie. This is NOT a democracy. This is a Republic; set that way to protect the minorities and the individual against the mob of the majority. This works both ways when it works right, but too many have fallen to that lie and so accept "popular" banning - another lie.
@masterkeep Believe me I know, I live in california most people are ignorant when it comes to their constititional rights to bear arms. People forget the 2nd amendment was put up for a reason, which is still VERY relevant today.
To the ChristFollower2, it says clearly in the Bible to defend your loved ones by carrying a sword. If guns were invented at that time God would have said to carry a gun instead of a sword. If you follow Christ more than you were on YouTube you would not be against guns. Every Baptist preacher I know stands in front of their congregation with a gun on their side. Those preachers are doing the right thing. How many church massacres have happened since pastors started packing heat? All pastors a
@TheChristfollowers2 I mean no disrespect, but your statement is absurd. Your suggestion gives armed criminals a distinct advantage, and as much as I respect the police, they simply can't always be there immediately. Armed criminals won't wait for them to arrive to play fair. When the criminal's firing his gun at YOU, your friends, or YOUR FAMILY, which would you rather have, a taser? mace? or a gun?
i think men wanna wear guns cuz it makes them feel macho if men wanna protect themselves they should carry tazer or mace and leave the carrying of lethal weapons to the police who are trained
@TheChristfollowers2 it doesnt take much training on how to use a gun. it does take responsability to know when to use it. a gun always counts for something, knowing how to use it is even better
It's stupid to say that just because some psychopath killed a lot of people, so nobody should have them. I mean that guy could've gotten a gun illegally as well even if guns were banned, so what's the point of disarming the general populace? Let's see it this way, if someone had a gun when that psychopath went off into a shooting frenzy, he would NOT have killed as many people as he did.
She doesnt think a gun equates to safety, so what stops violence. The peace sign, talking to a deranged lunatic hell bent on murder? Well that hasnt worked yet but in true liberal wisdom lets let it happen until they figure out how to stop it, and damn the parents, siblings and friend of the innocent murdered liberalism and the destruction of the US constitution is more important than a few lives! Liberalism and Progressivism is a Severe Mental Disorder!
think about it. if everyone has a gun, even if you get one nutjob who decides to shoot someone on campus, within a couple of seconds he has about 20 other students shooting at him. his 'killing spree' would be such an epic fail that he would be more than deterred from doing it in the first place.
if someone is deranged enough to want to murder someone, they will do it. the murderer will have the gun anyway - except no-one else will have one to stop him.
Ok, Marijuana is illegal and/or outlawed. Yet it is still smoked like a son of a bitch!! How do they expect guns to be any different? A murderer isn't going to refrain from obtaining a gun because it's illegal. He's a criminal!!! It's not like he makes obeying the law a habit!! Stupid, progressive bastards.
Amazing...I didn't realize that some college students actually "get it"...good job protesting guys...empty holsters is a good idea if you wanna protest against "Gun Free Zones"
City College of San Francisco is a gun free zone. No one is allowed to carry guns, not even campus police. Do I feel safe being a student there? I really don't.
:29 Poor brainwashed idiot "especially in the hands of a student".... Thats right girl.. Only give the guns to the AUTHORITY! Just give away all your rights while you are at it. Go ahead and give away number 1 and Number 4.... shhhh good girl... Now Walk into this gas cha...... I mean SHOWER to get clean. *gas comes into*
It's not about making anything safer, it's about infringing on an individuals RIGHT to protect and defend themselves as they see fit. If you don't want to carry a gun, that is also your right. You won't be forced to against your will, don't force someone else not to against his!
Personally, I carry 24/7 365 indoors or out... gun free zone or otherwise. My motto is what someone doesn't know I have on my person is none of their business. What they don't know isn't going to hurt them.
@mjmcg only truely gun free zone should = jail cell imo ... too many wacho's for the rest of the population to NOT be armed. Man with a gun in a mall on a shooting spree and a suicide bomber in the middle east are both terrorists. Give the country the right to fight back. and let judge and jury decide who followed the constitution and laws.
@LJH08Ralith I'm not real sure I understand your response, but in case you misunderstood mine I am PRO gun and PRO carry. And to clarify, I carry 24/7/365 no matter where I am or what I'm doing. I do not allow anyone or anything to disarm me and thus disable me from being able to defend myself, or those around me. I'm not going to be the one who gets shot because someone said I can't carry a gun in a certain place but the criminals who kn ow this waltz right in and start killing unarmed people.
I love how left wingers oppose the patriot act because it infringes upon our rights all for the sake of feeling safer, and yet are in favor of gun bans.
@imax1971 i can't agree more i don't know how many school shootings has to happen till the government can realise that there is no such thing as a gun free zone
@sardorn In gun free zones and drug free zones, the only people that have one or the other are the criminals... Dopey left wing anti gun people don't understand this.. They also refuse to accept that the overwhelming majority of gun violence is committed by illegal gun owners. It really makes me want to vomit!
@lunafringe10 My IQ is high enough to understand that if select faculty members were properly trained in firearms training were present at either Columbine or Virginia tech, the damage could have been reduced greatly... Guns don't kill people. People kill people... Saying guns kill people is like saying pencils misspell words... If you took the time to look up the statistics, you would find increased gun violence in places with the strictest concealed carry laws..
@imax1971 you know that states like MA RI and NY have really low gun related crime compared to FL TN and TX right? and there is no such thing as a gun free zone i never understand where that place gun lovers are always talking about is, i live in MA and it has some of the strictest gun laws but i own one cause i am a law abiding citizen in a dangerous neighborhood but i support bans on assault rifles cause when people use those things for attack or defense other people die
@SUPPORTGOODMUSIC1003 Are you a fucking idiot? (No offence) if you ban assault rifles they will keep going like full auto to semi-auto OMFG it shoots one bullet after a trigger squeeze with a 30 rnd magazine BAN THEM! later a bolt action with a 10 round clip OMFG it has 10 rounds! later a single shot rifle OMFG they can get really close up to a person. IT IS A VICIOUS CYCLE the 2nd ammendment is there to protect you from the government not for hunting or sporting!!!!
@SUPPORTGOODMUSIC1003 Also i like hunting and sporting rifles, BUT THE MAIN PURPOSE IS TO NOT ALLOW THEM TO BAN ANY GUN!!! a bot action hunting rifle with a scope on it OMFG it is a sniping rifle, but your a deer hunter right, sorry its a sniper gun we gotta ban it SO DON'T BAN ANY SORT OF GUNS!!!
@Tux3d0 are you a gun toting retarded who thinks he's butch cassidy? (no offense) haha sorry but that was kinda funny i don't remember what i said that would apply to what you said cause im not a deer hunter but i do think dudes should be able to own hunting rifles i don't know much about hunting so i can't really coment on the scope thing but if you want my opinion that's kinda bullshit if your gonna call hunting a sport cause that seems like some easy ass thing
If you don't know much about hunting don't say its easy, because its hard. It was an example about the Hunting rifle, If you ban Assault Rifles SOONER OR LATER they will get down to whatever kind of gun you have,ie. The United Kingdom. If your a prairie dog hunter for example and they ban your bolt action rifle you will say "But im a prairie dog hunter, im no sniper" Big bad government will say "Sorry it's a sniper"
@Tux3d0 there are plenty of guns in the united kingdom the difference is the guns they do have don't light up whole urban neighborhoods killing law abiding citizens and kids, and if hunting is so hard why can the fattest most un-athletic fucks do it? and by the way go back to school dude what your describing is called the slippery slope. Thinking that because one thing is banned or sanctioned all things in that category will, Which is one of the logical fallacies.
@SUPPORTGOODMUSIC1003 Also im still in school and plus it is true the UK is a great example that is how they have VERY VERY VERY TIGHT GUN CONTROL!!!Because it was just to much for Dopey left winged liberals to handle and they think guns are bad...
@Tux3d0 yeah id off england it's still pretty easy to get a gun hence almost everyone in the british countryside owns one (true look it up) but why you shouldn't bring up UK is because in the United States is usually around 7 people per capita die in homicides (70% of them from firearms) while in the UK it's 1.4 people per capita 9% that's right 9% due to firearms and stop being stupid when gangsters who have no practice whatsoever use guns to kill each other who do you think get hit ALOT
@SUPPORTGOODMUSIC1003 That is because you don't hear about high murder rate from guns Ever hear of the IRA? They fight the british army they aren't killing people in neighborhoods they go after soldiers and plus they get stuff off the black market, and im just saying WHEN GANGSTERS KILL EACHOTHER not other people -.-
@Tux3d0 yeah something like 8 times as many people have died just in the crips and bloods war in LA than the IRA explosions (they are terrorists that's how they do their shit blowing shit up there arent that many firefights) look shit up before you say it, it's not cool if you dont, and im saying again when gangsters kill each other they shoot guns in really dense neighbors when they miss and they do ALOT they hit babies, mothers, kids, nice ppl, (note there are other homicides in LA every year)
@SUPPORTGOODMUSIC1003 Okay i know that there are alot less killing from the IRA, now im ognna add in another country like Australia their crime rate went up alot, how about Hitler, Stalin, Lenin, Kim Jung Ill,Turkey passing gun control Many Armenians were killed, Guatemala 100,000+ Mayan Indians were killed. Many people were killed to gun control in the 20th century over 50 MILLION i think it was. If that were ever to happen again Would you want that?
@Tux3d0 ok first im being respectful you do the same... now as far as Australia goes, again wicked low murder rate (less than 2 like the UK) so saying it went WAY up is pretty relative. But it is true it went up, cause it was totally radical they like outlawed even like 17 clip revolvers NOBODY else does that and they paid the price for experimenting it's probably gonna go away, and the dictator thing is THEY ARE VIOLENT DICTATORS that happens regardless of their "gun control"
@SUPPORTGOODMUSIC1003 Also it is betterto have it and not need it, to need it and not have it. So please stop supporting the ban of Assault Rifles, because I know for a fact over the arguement we have had for the past hours that you are a Law abiding Citizen, but im just more pro gun than you and doesn't wan't to let go of any sort of firearm. Plus our founding fathers were alot smarter and knew guns eventually were going to get to that spot, and wanted us to be able to defend against the gov.
@Tux3d0 and the better to have it and not need argument is kinda fucked up because it means you favor your paranoia that tomorrow there will be some gov takeover that over the lives of poor people. plus if army tanks ever do come rolling down the street it wont matter how many AK shells you have, i own a gun by the way and get over yourself you aren't going to be like the minutemen it takes awhile to form a military force to tackle a government
@SUPPORTGOODMUSIC1003 Not paranoid my Family Preps and we don't own any Ak-47 or 7.62x39 also our neighbors have already planned this in and out. THERE IS MORE OF US THAN YOU THINK. Never said i was going to be like a minuteman did I? Never would wan't to fight the government head on it would be guerilla warefare and self preservation. The way our country is right now Shit could hit the fan at any time, and china is pretty close to bankrupting us, so give this replie a LONG HARD THOUGHT.
@SUPPORTGOODMUSIC1003 Before you replie please do, not trying to insult you im just telling you GIVE IT A LONG HARD THOUGHT please!!! It would be for the betterment of our NATION! :p
@Tux3d0 it's all good but i don't know what to think of that, what does that even mean shit could hit the fan? what would happen that would make things as bad for suburban and rural america as for the inner city? that's what im failing to see also using phrases like "the way things are now" kinda makes me think your pretty paranoid cause there are plenty of countries way worse off that aren't half as armed as this country and havnt experienced some Marxist takeover
@SUPPORTGOODMUSIC1003 LOL okay maybe a bit paranoid, but I like being prepared also, China could take over our economy if we keep borrowing money from them in MASSES and buying from them so that is why we need to buy American and bring jobs here to America otherwise we are screwed.
@Tux3d0 ok a country can't "take over" a countries economy the way you are thinking what would happen would be they could demand certain amounts of money threatening to not lend any more and we would have to cut programs to make that money (which is what conservatives want to do already) and again it's kinda fucked up that you vote for certain guns to be legal because you like to be prepared when they clearly are killing poor people.
@SUPPORTGOODMUSIC1003 I am a avid gun owner and citizen and it is true a aks 7.62 round will fail to damage a tank but i ama proud owner of a barret m109 25mm anti tank rifle which will indeed penatrate a tank.
@SUPPORTGOODMUSIC1003 Fat people can do it because they either have a tree stand or a blind, that or they use an ATV and are far enough from the animals that are still at a close range enough to kill them. UK has tight restrictions on guns so no not very many if you have a .22 your like on a terrorist watch list, plus when Gangsters kill eachother it is kind of good that is why it is so hard to get a FULL AUTO gun legally these days because of GANGSTERS that ruin it for LAW ABIDING CITIZENS!!!
maybe they should pick out a handful of people be able to carry guns concealed so if someone came to the school to try and attack them they could pull it out but they would have to be cappable and have to pass a test so then if someone tryed to attack the school the students could defend them selves and other. if everyone had a gun it would be horrid because maybe one student didnt like another and just shot him i mean serously this is a two way cause.
@santasazombie I beg to differ, zombie. "If everyone had a gun, it would be horrid" presupposes that EVERYONE is unstable and on the verge of mass murder. I'm NOT saying you're ignorant, but the argument is. I've heard Al Sharpton spew this ridiculous claptrap too. Who are the "they" that would do the "picking," and who would the "handful of people" be that would carry the concealed weapons? Again, zombie, it's not you, it's just not a very logical or thought-out position. Peace out.
great. not only did this man kill 32 people, we are also allowing the rights of others to be taken away because of this one man. every time someone commits a horrid crime with firearms in this country, it seems we make tighter and tighter gun laws to try and compensate for it, when 99% of registered gun owners are responsible, law abiding people.
@imax1971 finally someone that knows what im talking about! thanks for helping restore my faith that some people are smart enough to see the big picture.
i get so sick of people talking about college students like they are children. Hello, its college all of the students are adults, and if they are legally allowed to carry a gun outside of school, why not at school? Do they think they are more likely to shoot someone in school rather than at the park or on the street?
@TheProGunLiberal I totally agree. Most college students are adults, meaning they can own guns, join the military, become cops, get married, vote, etc.
Collge students are not different people on campus and off campus. If they can have guns off campus, they should be able to have them on campus.
school students should get to carry guns i don't think it will help i know it will help, not to mention there are more shootings and crims in a gun free zone
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but thats on campus maybe have the students leave a unloaded fire arm in their car but some kids are stupid. But i think its even stupider to be 18 and not be able to own a pistol. gayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
@sarasmith125 well yeah but idk... maybe some college students will be responsible but some dumbasses will try to pull a billy bad ass with a gun and starting shit just so he can protect himself.. but idk i think only students with a concealed weapons permit should be able to carry one just so you dont get those that try to pull a quick one on other students who dont carry guns
@zr2chevypickupman And how is that different than anybody else off campus being able to carry a gun? Some people will be responsible and some won't. That's how it's always been and how it always will be.
I see reasons to keep them banned and to unban them. They SHOULD be able to have them for safety reasons and it would disscourage fights and bla bla bla.. they SHOULD NOT be able to carry a gun because.. lets be honest how many kids would you trust with guns in your class? kids are oftem stupid and could cause more harm then good.
I DO think they should be able to if they get a permit, they could get it with expeirence with firearms, safety training, ect.
Great idea, it's the way it SHOULD be! 0:28, the first three words out of that girls mouth, " I DON'T think " = victim mentality!! Why should those type OPINIONS be allowed to infringe upon the RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE?
@135Jacob If a student is legally able to carry a firearm off campus with a CCW permit why cant they carry on campus? If they a responsible carrying on the street they will be responsible on campus.
@135Jacob Why is it a stupid idea? People have to get a conceal weapons permit to carry a gun as it is( which I totally disagree with), so they're already licensed by the state. The government has already said that they can safely handle a gun and they've been educated on when they can and can't use guns. People face the same dangers on and off campus, so they should be able to carry on campus as well as off campus.
Good for the kids.
Guns are a false god and nobody should pay attention to gun nuts.
bearriver666 2 months ago
so drunken kids want to be allowed guns? lmao there is nothing that could go wrong here at all.
vada2000 2 months ago
Well, lets see. College students routinely engage in loud, disruptive, parties, alcohol, drugs, and similar rowdy behavior. Oh yea. Irresponsible morons like that really need to be armed with deadly weapons. <- heavy sarcasm.
stewartx5 2 months ago
@stewartx5 oh yeah, and black people routinely engage in gang activity and shoot each other and have huge dicks. and asians routinely engage in studying math and going to MIT and have tiny dicks. You're being very biased and bigoted about what you're saying. Its against the law to carry a gun and be under the influence of drugs/alcohol. any law abiding citizen with a gun respects firearms and is responsible enough to carry them, otherwise they couldnt get a carry permit. get educated man...
BigPapaBear1000 2 months ago
@BigPapaBear1000
Good grief. You have those things on your mind and then call me a bigot? Your bigotry (read the definition) even extends to your comments about law abiding citizens - not all respect firearms and are responsible enough to carry them.
By the way, educate yourself, man. in many states, one doesn't need a permit to carry a weapon. In those open carry states, a permit is needed only for concealed carry.
stewartx5 2 months ago
@stewartx5 yeah, wish i lived in one of those states
BigPapaBear1000 2 months ago
OKAY LET ME PUT IT LIKE THIS!. WHY ARE YOU PROTESTING AND DEMANDING RIGHTS TO CARRY A GUN ON CAMPUS? YOU KNOW THEY'RE GOING TO SAY NO. AND THEN WHAT? YOUR GOING TO SAY OKAY AND NOT DO IT AND KEEP PROTESTING IT? IF YOU FEEL IT CREATES A SAFER EVIORENMENT FOR YOU AND FELLOW STUDENTS GET YOUR PISTOL PRACTICE AT THE RANGE OFTEN AND CARRY CONCEALED ON YOU WETHER ITS AGAINTS THE RULES OR NOT. STOP BEING SUCH A SHEEP BY ALLOWING OTHER SHEEP TO NOT ALLOW YOU TO BECOME A WOLF. (but dont load wolf ammo)
andrademeza 2 months ago
Heather Kuhla, youre a dubass. If some idiot came in a shootin' you wouldn't be safer if you were armed? I don't know what world you're living in...
unicursalhex 3 months ago
lol how come all these people are attacking university and colleges. couple of years from now you will probably need to sign a death contract to go to school.
maplestorywater 5 months ago
You should just lie down and take it. No citizen should ever posses the tools of violence. Some of us are just going to have to die as we become a more and more civil society over time. Those that perish are civil societies growing pains.
lionneedshistiger 5 months ago
@lionneedshistiger haha you will never get the criminals, small minded gang members, robbers, burglars, terrorists, or any other group fueled by hatred to lie down and take it, thats the way that we let government get out of hand. lie down and take it and overtime that will become the only thing we can do.
westcoastsurvival 5 months ago
I see both sides to the argument. although i do understand that a "no gun zone" won't stop someone who wanted to make another VT tragedy, part of me wonders if there will be more murders that happen out of impulse.
deimos23 6 months ago
You don't think having a gun will make you safer don't carry one. I'm tired of school officials who come up with plans and policies that do nothing. People die and all they say is they did everything possible. No they didn't! There are responsible students and staff who should be allowed to carry weapons to prevent violence. You think someone will randomly be shooting up the place if they know they'll get a fight. Virginia Tech once the little punk encountered the cops he killed himself.
NJburbsSeeker 7 months ago 2
why does the asian guy have Danielle as his last name??? LOL
GlaBurnzUrHouseAK47 7 months ago
@GlaBurnzUrHouseAK47 adopted at age 4. refugee from vietnam.
andrademeza 2 months ago
I am all for having my gun on campus.. I have carried not for about 5 years.. never had a problem.
Joshua2019 8 months ago
I assume the more helpless you are the safer you are from Criminals and banning guns must work hence why cops need them.
Ordinary people in the presence of guns turn into slaughtering butchers but revert to normal when the weapon is removed.
Most people can’t be trusted, so we should have laws against guns, which most people will abide by because they can be trusted.
Just some make sense quotes from another site! But hey they make sense!
tangoseal1 8 months ago
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tangoseal1 8 months ago
I carried a gun in college for years. Never shot anyone. Never hurt anyone.
gene15644b 8 months ago
these people are insane, guns will be used irresponsibly if everyone had one, shit happens, people get murdered. only a small proportion intend on causing crime so not everyone needs a gun
MrThedudeman1 8 months ago
@MrThedudeman1 The Colleges normally don't say that "Everyone needs a gun". Colleges say that NOONE needs a gun".
Big difference....
gene15644b 8 months ago
@MrThedudeman1
Where does this make sense? I must have missed your point??? So not having a gun will keep crimes from happening? I'm sorry please clarify.
tangoseal1 8 months ago
@tangoseal1 basically the result of guns being legal creates more problems than benefits. people use the shitty self defence argument, but the chances of anything happening to them or ever needing the gun is so small, its not worth having the large amount of guns in the society. the ends dont justify the means...
MrThedudeman1 8 months ago
@MrThedudeman1
And what evidence do you have to back this? I would argue against this claim. Look at Soviet Union under Stalin and Lenin, Look at Germany under Hitler, look at the UK after their gun ban, look at China under Mao Zedong, the list goes on. All those peaceful leaders disarmed their nations and then went about committing mass genocide.
Also look at FBI crime statistics. An armed populace has a major reduction in crime over an unarmed sheeplike society where criminals have guns.
tangoseal1 8 months ago 14
@tangoseal1 Well-stated.
tomperanteau 5 months ago
@tangoseal1 I can not allow you to insult Lennin!
2tur 3 months ago
@MrThedudeman1 think of a gun like a condom, better to have one and not need it then need one and not have it.
But enlighten me what problems do guns cause? If you want to use that line of thinking cars cause way more problems than guns, yet I bet you are not willing to give up yours.
Kiddeth 5 months ago
They dont want teachers and students to be armed? How about the wacko killers? Its ok for them to carry? When will these idiots learn. Criminals will still carry guns on campus, you pathetic sheep. Maybe this is Darwin at work?
rb2112002 8 months ago
GUYS all stupid anti gun people go look up this country "Switzerland" THEY HAVE THE LOWEST GUN CRIME RATE IN THE WORLD!They issue rifles to every home train them! And after their Serivece they can buy their rifle and have it converted to Semi-Auto GUN CONTROL IS BAD!!!! Also watch Cops they dont care about laws they pull machetes out of peoples car and yet most states allow 3-4 inches on blade?Tell me who commits the crimes the guy that owns guns legally or the one that buys them off the street?
Tux3d0 9 months ago
@Tux3d0 the biggest city in Switzerland is geneva and it only has like a million people and it's handgun policies are pretty harsh which is where the debate is the reason it's considered the most armed country cause of it's large amount of rifles (not AK's or Uzis mind you) im not trying to argue with you so dont respond i dont care i just wanted to tell you the strict facts im not even telling you what i think of that information
SUPPORTGOODMUSIC1003 9 months ago
@SUPPORTGOODMUSIC1003 First of all Uzi's aren't rifles they are submachine guns second of all I'm trying to say an Amerd Society is a polite society.
Tux3d0 9 months ago
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@Tux3d0 already told you don't care
SUPPORTGOODMUSIC1003 9 months ago
When seconds count, The police are minutes away.
outlawracer2229 9 months ago
BIG PICTURE: Lobbyist buys politician so the politician votes for tax cuts for the rich so the rich can create more jobs. The rich create more jobs but abroad(cheaper work force). At home no new jobs, more poor people, poverty leads to hopelessness and crime. More crime more people go to prison, prisons are owned by corporations more tax money for corporations=WIN WIN scenario. More crime, so more people buy guns for protection, gun company is owned by the same corporation=WIN WIN WIN scenario
BonScottAC 9 months ago
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chapmasi 9 months ago
@SUPPORTGOODMUSIC1003 2009 lowest guncrime in 20 years?
HOME OFFICE RECORDS: in 1997/1998 there was approx 4500 gun related "crimes" in the UK. In 2007/2008 there was 9500.... so 1 year later it halved did it? ERM NO
There are so many bullshit stats out there used by anti-gun groups to show drops in gun related inncidents. Before the UK ban you had to log a call with the Police if you changed ownership, thats a "gun related inncident" according to the anti-gun groups statistics!
chapmasi 9 months ago
Funny story. I went and took a gun safety class so I could apppy for a CCW permit. I've had a gun for awhile. When my 23 yr old step daughter saw where I took the class, she told my wife that it worried her that I wanted the permit--that I would be dangerous... I said "Damn, how is it worrysome that I would have a permit?" You'd probably have a hard time killing someone with a permit... How is it more dangerous to have a pemit than to have a gun? I don't need a gun to hurt or kill someone..jeez
dvdwmplr 9 months ago
@dvdwmplr That's the Liberal indoctrination of her young mind at work.
garwoodv6 9 months ago
hey look a sign that says no guns allowed, ya thats going to stop me
XXTHE12THMANXX 9 months ago 2
I don't get it. My buddy joined the Marines right out of high school and was sent overseas and fought for our country with a gun. I am 23 years old and have a state issued CCW permit but can't conceal carry to my class at my university. Go figure.
cg257 10 months ago 2
Here in the UK our handgun ban in 1997 was supposed to reduce crime and gun relate deaths significantly......... its risen year on yea until recently when we saw a tiny drop in 2004 or so.... then it shoots back up again.
You show me ONE country in the world where a blanket gun ban successfully removed guns from the hands of criminals and I'll support it. Until then FUCK THE STUPID IGNORANT LIBERALS
chapmasi 10 months ago 2
I also think it would be much safer if I were allowed to carry a flamethrower around. At least then no one would ever talk shit to me.
brennenderopa 10 months ago
@brennenderopa Well, Thomas Jefferson and fellow founding fathers knew that an armed society is a polite society...
garwoodv6 9 months ago
@garwoodv6 So, regarding how unpolite people are, we really need more guns. MUCH more guns.
brennenderopa 9 months ago
@brennenderopa Yessir. EVERYWHERE that concealed carry laws have been enacted, crime plummets 30-50% in the very next year or two, and stays low after that.
The extensive background checks prior to license approval, the training courses and continued qualifying follow-ups, and the extra responsibilities placed on CCW license holders ensure that only very good citizens can acquire and maintain their license.
garwoodv6 9 months ago
Nope they don't want students and staff to carry weapons...they would rather have them dead to further thier idiotic agenda to make themselves "feel better" (and ignore reality)
strakill 10 months ago
Open carry -- including campus carry -- is coming to Florida! Freedom...
Bluto2973 10 months ago
When seconds count, the cops are minutes away.
The stereotypical liberal feminist was right, guns, especially in the hands of students, does NOT make the campus safer.
In fact, even guns in the hands of the cops does little to keep the campus safe. However, just like a gun in the hands of a cop, a gun in the hands of a student keeps that student, and every single person around him or her. Having more people with more guns, simply means there will be more safe zones in a dangerous world.
FreeinTX 10 months ago
The safest place in town is in a crowd of open carrying gun owners. No gangster would even dare try anything. Just think if criminals knew that most every person is armed.You can carry a gun but you can't carry a cop.
MayonR 11 months ago
OK PEOPLE WAKE THE FUCK UP
StopJewNWONow 11 months ago
Yes I head of Columbine,If some Whacked out person gets a hold of a gun that STILL foesn't make the Gun bad,We don't want to ban Matches because an Arsonist Killed a bunch of People do we?,Or Kitchen knives are one of the MOST USED weapons of opportunity os ANYTHING watch any Murder show....Want to ban the old Ginsu because it is used as a weapon?, Cars have been Murder weapons, hell a POT Roast was used in a Murder on Alfred hitchcock gonna ban POT ROAST?
obamabasher1 11 months ago
Stano, Danny rolling Ted Bundy,NONE of them wanted Students Armed, ALL of them were serial Killers,think if one of those Women had a weapon in their purse it would have saved their LIFE?>
Read this Stano was never charged. He was most active in Florida and New Jersey. By his 29th birthday, he was in prison for murdering 41 women. He was housed with fellow serial killer Theodore Bundy until his execution in 1998.
obamabasher1 11 months ago
Dumb blonde
Zizumia1 11 months ago
If CIVILIANS ARE CARRYING GUNS......THEN YOU DON'T NEED THE POLICE ANYMORE.
USisfuckedup 1 year ago
lol!!!!
STUPID AMERICANS
USisfuckedup 1 year ago
Heather is a moron
noblinger 1 year ago
@noblinger Yeah, Heather is a moron...but remember that she was programed to be.
hammack319 1 year ago
BAND GUNS..
andyastro1 1 year ago
i absolutely agree that if a student passes a background inspection and is given a license to carry a gun they should be able to carry one even go as far as making them carry one in plain sight so they can be monitored by faculty
reap62 1 year ago
@reap62 EVERY DICTATOR AGREES with you!, Hitler,Stalin,Pol Pot Mao Tse Tung,Ghadaffy,Saddam Hussein,
They ALL Had Gun Control in their Countrys they took over,IDIOTS like you are the reason OUR rights have been taken away,There were NO LIMITATIONS put on Gun ownership in OUR Constitution.
How about this Pal,Lets put a BIG SIGN in YOUR Front Yard like this.
I BELIEVE in GUN CONTROL So CRIMINALS PLEASE NOTE THERE ARE NO FIREARMS ON PREMISES.
When can we install this sign for you Mr Liberal?
obamabasher1 11 months ago
@obamabasher1 ok first of all what? second of all im anything but a liberal dude, i think they're the most hypocritical scummy morons on the planet and third i don't believe there should be any gun control i believe everyone should be able to have a gun as long as they're capable of holding one but yes i do believe that places like say college campuses should have the right to at least screen the students backgrounds, ever heard of the colombine shooting and that was just a high school.
reap62 11 months ago
@reap62
You said, "college campuses should have the right to at least screen the students backgrounds,"
A quazi-governmental institute being allowed to access your personal information and being allowed to force you to undergo some "guilty until proven innocent" proceedure would not only lead to severe misuse and abuse, but infringe upon the rights of every damn person who attempts to enter the campus. Public campuses and tax payer funded campuses. I would rather just take the risk.
FreeinTX 10 months ago
@reap62 yup where some deranged students walked in and started shooting. I can bet that if other people (meaning adults of legal age to carry) were carrying and it was know it would have been a different situation...probably would of thought twice, not been able to kill as many, or heck they might of just set of the propane bombs......which would be a totaly different event. Im just saying. The public school don't have the right to screen...unless the student are minors..there you have a point
strakill 10 months ago
Try that kind of peaceful protest at a California collage and you will be pushed to the ground by a cop and a gun in your face after one of the stoned stupid liberals gets freaked out and reports you.
QUESTED 1 year ago
Pr0pr0, all those students will die anyways if they don't do anything about it. Which is worse, 5 people injured from misfires, or 300 killed before police arrive?
UggmunsStudios 1 year ago
don't get me wrong, i like guns, i really do... but if guns are such a crime deterrant, then why does america have one of the highest crime rates in the world, and most years THE highest murder rate?
I don't live in your country so i don't really care if your student's have guns, but at least make factually accurate arguments plz? kthxbye.
pr0pr0 1 year ago
@pr0pr0 First off, America is never the country with the highest murder rate. I guarantee that our neibor, Mexico, has a significantly higher murder rate than the US. If you look at states such as Vermont, they have some of the most open firearms laws in the country but yet their crime rate is one of the lowest, far lower than the national average. In Kennesaw, Georgia every citizen must own a firearm in the home and they have very low crime rate. It is the same story all over the country.
YouDiddntSeeAnything 1 year ago
@YouDiddntSeeAnything You're right, I spoke out of my ass there. America is the 24th highest murder rate in the world, after 23 THIRD WORLD and unstable countries.
But no, don't let me interfere with your ignorance of the world, you seem to find comfort living a lie rather then doing something about it, and I don't want to take that way from you. Enjoy getting shot in a burglary when the guy robbing you has a gun because he knows you'll have one two.
pr0pr0 1 year ago
@pr0pr0 okay, you're entitled to your own opinion and I'm fine with that. But why did you say that I was living a lie? That makes no sense what so ever. Anyway, In my opinion it should be an individuals right as to whether they own or carry a firearm and it isn't up to the state to dictate who has a right to defend themselves
YouDiddntSeeAnything 1 year ago
@YouDiddntSeeAnything I said you are living a lie, because you state that america has the lowest crime rate in the world, while it's murder rate per-capita is amongst THIRD WORLD countries. That's not an opinion, it's fact.
In my first post I stated that I like guns, and I don't mind the idea of more people carrying them, but they sure as fuck shouldn't be bringing guns to SCHOOL. You do realize your country IS the only one in the world where school shootings aren't rare right?
(to be continued
pr0pr0 1 year ago
@YouDiddntSeeAnything FURTHERMORE, you americans don't even seem to understand your own second ammendmant. The right to bear arms isn't supposed to be a license to be a gun toting redneck, it's a clause to allow state militia to fight against the government without repercussion should the government infringe on constitutional rights.
Reason 2 you are living a lie (along with your country men): No one is enacting their 2nd amendment right PROPERLY, when the world needs them too the most.
pr0pr0 1 year ago
@YouDiddntSeeAnything Finally, I'll tell you what guns aren't good for. Being a fucking hero vigilante. Do you have any idea how many innocent bystanders are at risk when everybody pulls out a weapon to start "Shooting the bad guy"
What if the "bad guy" wasn't even armed with a gun, what happens to his due process?
But please, don't let my points stop you from sounding like an inbred hick, argue away.
pr0pr0 1 year ago
@pr0pr0 The second ammendment says "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed" did you see that? it said the right of the people. If it is the right of the people to own firearms, it is the right of the people to decide which individuals can own them and the people say everyone. It can be read either way, but what it does say is the right of the people, so let the people decide
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YouDiddntSeeAnything 1 year ago
@pr0pr0 The people think that everyone should have the right to. Oh and for the record, I never said that America had the lowest crime rate in the world. I did say that the state of Vermont had one of the lowest in the country, not the world. I'm sorry if that was misunderstood. I'm not saying that people should bring guns to school, I'm saying that university and college students over the age of 21 who hold a CCW permit should have the right to Just out of curiousity what country are you from?
YouDiddntSeeAnything 1 year ago
@YouDiddntSeeAnything Canada, not that it's really important. And despite what people like imax1971 up there tend to believe, our criminals don't tend to have guns up here at all. Because the civilians aren't armed to the teeth, the criminals aren't either, meaning violent crimes are greatly reduced, and tend to have a higher survivability rate.
pr0pr0 1 year ago
@pr0pr0 well, I don't want to have any serious argument but saying that criminals don't tend to have guns in Canada is a bit ignorant. Oh, Canada is in the top ten for gun ownership worldwide, I think they're around 9ish I know it's somewhere around 30 guns per 100 people. That's only the legally owned firearms! I think that because there are so many factors that contribute to the level of gun crime in a country we may never see clear results supporting either side of the argument specificallly.
YouDiddntSeeAnything 1 year ago
@pr0pr0 THANK YOU i am an american citizen from Boston's inner city and i am sick of these safe neighborhood dudes complaining that they dont have guns to make it a little safer while making MY home significantly more dangerous
SUPPORTGOODMUSIC1003 9 months ago
lol if i were a news reporter and i wanted an opinion on guns some cunt bitch would be the last person id ask for and informed educated opinion
joeratti 1 year ago
alright let me set this shit straight alright? listen having guns on campus just makes it even more easier for one of these massacres to happen cuz guess what if someone walks into the school with a gun and its legal to carry guns on campus then no one is gonna be alarmed until they hear gunshots but if having guns on campus is illegal then when the person is spotted with a firearm people know to get the F**k outta there and call the cops
BigSmokePolitics 1 year ago
Re: BigSmokePolitics and they sit and cower and wait to see if the cops ever show up. Where if people are armed, and hear shots, they can cover themselves and others and wait with safety in case the shooting comes their way.
Better yet, if it's known that people might/will be armed, then a nut or criminal won't try anything! See how simple that logic is?
JFrazer4303 1 year ago
@BigSmokePolitics Ever hear of concealing the weapon. He'll just stroll on in with the gun under his shirt and shoot when he gets in the classroom.
Gannon141 1 year ago
Students shouldnt have guns, but staff and faculty with guns and also tighter security is probably the best solution.
EddieCubillo 1 year ago
@EddieCubillo Why not? Do their rights end when they enter the campus? If so, why should the teachers and staff be allowed?
rb2112002 1 year ago
@rb2112002 Speaking as a student, I would be very uncomfotable knowing someone next to me had a gun on them in class. But it would never bother me knowing the teacher was armed. I'm not a sheeple I'm not afraid of people practicing their 2nd amendment rights, I just think we should think a little harder when it comes to schools, and be open for new ideas from both sides.
EddieCubillo 1 year ago
@EddieCubillo I wonder how many people are carrying on campus now? If someone was carrying concealed, they could be right next to you and you wouldn't know. You would not fear it, because you didn't know it. The point is, people think about concealed carry as an invitation to a "wild west" mentality. People are a lot smarter and calmer than you think. They will not start shooting over a harsh word or a bad grade. The biggest part of CC is avoiding confrontation to begin with.
rb2112002 1 year ago
@EddieCubillo I agree that there is a certain level of maturity required when you decide to carry a gun. I would agree that allowing school staff to carry is a good start. However, the law says that an adult (age 18 or 21, depending on local laws) is held to adult standards. He should have the same rights as any other adult on campus as he has off.
rb2112002 1 year ago
@rb2112002 You have a good point, but I just think we should give both sides a chance to give their opinion.
EddieCubillo 1 year ago
@EddieCubillo The other side is easy to predict. Guns kill people. Get rid of all guns. Criminals are exempt of course..
rb2112002 1 year ago
@rb2112002 Probably, but who knows maybe some of them have a brain and will realize it is not possible, and it is not logical. If you give people a chance to say their view and prove them wrong it might open their eyes.
EddieCubillo 1 year ago
@EddieCubillo I wish you were right, but this battle has been going on for a long time. Despite all the proof that guns are a deterrent to crime, the anti-gun sheeple still try to make us as helpless as they chose to be. They ban guns based on color, shape, the type of stock. They talk about "reasonable" or "common sense" laws. Gun laws have never reduced crime. Never has any type of prohibition ever worked. War on drugs, lost. War on alcohol, lost. Criminals just dont follow the rules.
rb2112002 1 year ago
@rb2112002 I was thinking the same thing man, these liberals are full of shit. And hey someone else who says sheeple! But it's not that easy, people have different views on this, and this is a democracy so unfortunately the right choice isnt the popular one. Most people are just devoid of common sense nowadays.
EddieCubillo 1 year ago
@EddieCubillo You have fallen victim to their worst lie. This is NOT a democracy. This is a Republic; set that way to protect the minorities and the individual against the mob of the majority. This works both ways when it works right, but too many have fallen to that lie and so accept "popular" banning - another lie.
masterkeep 1 year ago
@masterkeep Believe me I know, I live in california most people are ignorant when it comes to their constititional rights to bear arms. People forget the 2nd amendment was put up for a reason, which is still VERY relevant today.
EddieCubillo 1 year ago
@EddieCubillo Too true!
masterkeep 1 year ago
@EddieCubillo You are right though, they are full of excrement.
masterkeep 1 year ago
To the ChristFollower2, it says clearly in the Bible to defend your loved ones by carrying a sword. If guns were invented at that time God would have said to carry a gun instead of a sword. If you follow Christ more than you were on YouTube you would not be against guns. Every Baptist preacher I know stands in front of their congregation with a gun on their side. Those preachers are doing the right thing. How many church massacres have happened since pastors started packing heat? All pastors a
M0DiFiEDZ 1 year ago
@TheChristfollowers2 I mean no disrespect, but your statement is absurd. Your suggestion gives armed criminals a distinct advantage, and as much as I respect the police, they simply can't always be there immediately. Armed criminals won't wait for them to arrive to play fair. When the criminal's firing his gun at YOU, your friends, or YOUR FAMILY, which would you rather have, a taser? mace? or a gun?
Stingray8854 1 year ago
i think men wanna wear guns cuz it makes them feel macho if men wanna protect themselves they should carry tazer or mace and leave the carrying of lethal weapons to the police who are trained
TheChristfollowers2 1 year ago
@TheChristfollowers2 it doesnt take much training on how to use a gun. it does take responsability to know when to use it. a gun always counts for something, knowing how to use it is even better
Spankydaham924 1 year ago
not safe?? some comes up to you with a gun then you pull out a gun and kill him before he kills you!!!
skordijhl 1 year ago
It's stupid to say that just because some psychopath killed a lot of people, so nobody should have them. I mean that guy could've gotten a gun illegally as well even if guns were banned, so what's the point of disarming the general populace? Let's see it this way, if someone had a gun when that psychopath went off into a shooting frenzy, he would NOT have killed as many people as he did.
lomocan 1 year ago
She doesnt think a gun equates to safety, so what stops violence. The peace sign, talking to a deranged lunatic hell bent on murder? Well that hasnt worked yet but in true liberal wisdom lets let it happen until they figure out how to stop it, and damn the parents, siblings and friend of the innocent murdered liberalism and the destruction of the US constitution is more important than a few lives! Liberalism and Progressivism is a Severe Mental Disorder!
nytmstr 1 year ago
think about it. if everyone has a gun, even if you get one nutjob who decides to shoot someone on campus, within a couple of seconds he has about 20 other students shooting at him. his 'killing spree' would be such an epic fail that he would be more than deterred from doing it in the first place.
if someone is deranged enough to want to murder someone, they will do it. the murderer will have the gun anyway - except no-one else will have one to stop him.
GoldenbanjoDJ 1 year ago
@GoldenbanjoDJ
While i agree with you if they want to own a gun they need proper training so they don't freeze up in situation like that.
theonlyemoslayer 1 year ago
@theonlyemoslayer
i guess that's a fair point :)
GoldenbanjoDJ 1 year ago
Ok, Marijuana is illegal and/or outlawed. Yet it is still smoked like a son of a bitch!! How do they expect guns to be any different? A murderer isn't going to refrain from obtaining a gun because it's illegal. He's a criminal!!! It's not like he makes obeying the law a habit!! Stupid, progressive bastards.
KentuckyThunder1863 1 year ago
@KentuckyThunder1863 your a smart one
annasajerk 1 year ago
Amazing...I didn't realize that some college students actually "get it"...good job protesting guys...empty holsters is a good idea if you wanna protest against "Gun Free Zones"
BlueCollarSurvival 1 year ago
City College of San Francisco is a gun free zone. No one is allowed to carry guns, not even campus police. Do I feel safe being a student there? I really don't.
ustfu 1 year ago
:29 Poor brainwashed idiot "especially in the hands of a student".... Thats right girl.. Only give the guns to the AUTHORITY! Just give away all your rights while you are at it. Go ahead and give away number 1 and Number 4.... shhhh good girl... Now Walk into this gas cha...... I mean SHOWER to get clean. *gas comes into*
People are fucking idiots.
TheMango121 1 year ago
It's not about making anything safer, it's about infringing on an individuals RIGHT to protect and defend themselves as they see fit. If you don't want to carry a gun, that is also your right. You won't be forced to against your will, don't force someone else not to against his!
Personally, I carry 24/7 365 indoors or out... gun free zone or otherwise. My motto is what someone doesn't know I have on my person is none of their business. What they don't know isn't going to hurt them.
mjmcg 1 year ago 12
@mjmcg only truely gun free zone should = jail cell imo ... too many wacho's for the rest of the population to NOT be armed. Man with a gun in a mall on a shooting spree and a suicide bomber in the middle east are both terrorists. Give the country the right to fight back. and let judge and jury decide who followed the constitution and laws.
LJH08Ralith 1 year ago
@LJH08Ralith I'm not real sure I understand your response, but in case you misunderstood mine I am PRO gun and PRO carry. And to clarify, I carry 24/7/365 no matter where I am or what I'm doing. I do not allow anyone or anything to disarm me and thus disable me from being able to defend myself, or those around me. I'm not going to be the one who gets shot because someone said I can't carry a gun in a certain place but the criminals who kn ow this waltz right in and start killing unarmed people.
mjmcg 1 year ago
@mjmcg think i was agreeing ... not sure! haha.. but ya i definately agree... gun free zones are a failure by nature...
LJH08Ralith 1 year ago
I love how left wingers oppose the patriot act because it infringes upon our rights all for the sake of feeling safer, and yet are in favor of gun bans.
rgmztxy 1 year ago
Virginia Tech and Columbine would have been minimized if school officials had guns and were properly trained how to use them...
imax1971 1 year ago 2
@imax1971 i can't agree more i don't know how many school shootings has to happen till the government can realise that there is no such thing as a gun free zone
sardorn 1 year ago
@sardorn In gun free zones and drug free zones, the only people that have one or the other are the criminals... Dopey left wing anti gun people don't understand this.. They also refuse to accept that the overwhelming majority of gun violence is committed by illegal gun owners. It really makes me want to vomit!
imax1971 1 year ago 36
@imax1971 well said.
skordijhl 1 year ago
@skordijhl Thanks.
imax1971 1 year ago
Right but the dopey right wing anti drug people don't understand that criminals don't obey drug laws either.
Noahthebeast09 1 year ago
@Noahthebeast09 Hence why Libertarianism is the only consistent political ideology in American democratic discourse.
RebelWrestler45 1 year ago
@imax1971 a real democrat, all who you dont agree with are dopey, left wing or hippies right, your IQ level sir is.........?
lunafringe10 1 year ago
@lunafringe10 My IQ is high enough to understand that if select faculty members were properly trained in firearms training were present at either Columbine or Virginia tech, the damage could have been reduced greatly... Guns don't kill people. People kill people... Saying guns kill people is like saying pencils misspell words... If you took the time to look up the statistics, you would find increased gun violence in places with the strictest concealed carry laws..
imax1971 1 year ago
@imax1971 you know that states like MA RI and NY have really low gun related crime compared to FL TN and TX right? and there is no such thing as a gun free zone i never understand where that place gun lovers are always talking about is, i live in MA and it has some of the strictest gun laws but i own one cause i am a law abiding citizen in a dangerous neighborhood but i support bans on assault rifles cause when people use those things for attack or defense other people die
SUPPORTGOODMUSIC1003 9 months ago
@SUPPORTGOODMUSIC1003 Are you a fucking idiot? (No offence) if you ban assault rifles they will keep going like full auto to semi-auto OMFG it shoots one bullet after a trigger squeeze with a 30 rnd magazine BAN THEM! later a bolt action with a 10 round clip OMFG it has 10 rounds! later a single shot rifle OMFG they can get really close up to a person. IT IS A VICIOUS CYCLE the 2nd ammendment is there to protect you from the government not for hunting or sporting!!!!
Tux3d0 9 months ago
@SUPPORTGOODMUSIC1003 Also i like hunting and sporting rifles, BUT THE MAIN PURPOSE IS TO NOT ALLOW THEM TO BAN ANY GUN!!! a bot action hunting rifle with a scope on it OMFG it is a sniping rifle, but your a deer hunter right, sorry its a sniper gun we gotta ban it SO DON'T BAN ANY SORT OF GUNS!!!
Tux3d0 9 months ago
@Tux3d0 are you a gun toting retarded who thinks he's butch cassidy? (no offense) haha sorry but that was kinda funny i don't remember what i said that would apply to what you said cause im not a deer hunter but i do think dudes should be able to own hunting rifles i don't know much about hunting so i can't really coment on the scope thing but if you want my opinion that's kinda bullshit if your gonna call hunting a sport cause that seems like some easy ass thing
SUPPORTGOODMUSIC1003 9 months ago
@SUPPORTGOODMUSIC1003 GO BACK TO THE SECOND PAGE AND READ YOUR DUMBASS COMMENT.
If you don't know much about hunting don't say its easy, because its hard. It was an example about the Hunting rifle, If you ban Assault Rifles SOONER OR LATER they will get down to whatever kind of gun you have,ie. The United Kingdom. If your a prairie dog hunter for example and they ban your bolt action rifle you will say "But im a prairie dog hunter, im no sniper" Big bad government will say "Sorry it's a sniper"
Tux3d0 9 months ago
@Tux3d0 there are plenty of guns in the united kingdom the difference is the guns they do have don't light up whole urban neighborhoods killing law abiding citizens and kids, and if hunting is so hard why can the fattest most un-athletic fucks do it? and by the way go back to school dude what your describing is called the slippery slope. Thinking that because one thing is banned or sanctioned all things in that category will, Which is one of the logical fallacies.
SUPPORTGOODMUSIC1003 9 months ago
@SUPPORTGOODMUSIC1003 Also im still in school and plus it is true the UK is a great example that is how they have VERY VERY VERY TIGHT GUN CONTROL!!!Because it was just to much for Dopey left winged liberals to handle and they think guns are bad...
Tux3d0 9 months ago
@Tux3d0 yeah id off england it's still pretty easy to get a gun hence almost everyone in the british countryside owns one (true look it up) but why you shouldn't bring up UK is because in the United States is usually around 7 people per capita die in homicides (70% of them from firearms) while in the UK it's 1.4 people per capita 9% that's right 9% due to firearms and stop being stupid when gangsters who have no practice whatsoever use guns to kill each other who do you think get hit ALOT
SUPPORTGOODMUSIC1003 9 months ago
@SUPPORTGOODMUSIC1003 That is because you don't hear about high murder rate from guns Ever hear of the IRA? They fight the british army they aren't killing people in neighborhoods they go after soldiers and plus they get stuff off the black market, and im just saying WHEN GANGSTERS KILL EACHOTHER not other people -.-
Tux3d0 9 months ago
@Tux3d0 yeah something like 8 times as many people have died just in the crips and bloods war in LA than the IRA explosions (they are terrorists that's how they do their shit blowing shit up there arent that many firefights) look shit up before you say it, it's not cool if you dont, and im saying again when gangsters kill each other they shoot guns in really dense neighbors when they miss and they do ALOT they hit babies, mothers, kids, nice ppl, (note there are other homicides in LA every year)
SUPPORTGOODMUSIC1003 9 months ago
@SUPPORTGOODMUSIC1003 Okay i know that there are alot less killing from the IRA, now im ognna add in another country like Australia their crime rate went up alot, how about Hitler, Stalin, Lenin, Kim Jung Ill,Turkey passing gun control Many Armenians were killed, Guatemala 100,000+ Mayan Indians were killed. Many people were killed to gun control in the 20th century over 50 MILLION i think it was. If that were ever to happen again Would you want that?
Tux3d0 9 months ago
@Tux3d0 ok first im being respectful you do the same... now as far as Australia goes, again wicked low murder rate (less than 2 like the UK) so saying it went WAY up is pretty relative. But it is true it went up, cause it was totally radical they like outlawed even like 17 clip revolvers NOBODY else does that and they paid the price for experimenting it's probably gonna go away, and the dictator thing is THEY ARE VIOLENT DICTATORS that happens regardless of their "gun control"
SUPPORTGOODMUSIC1003 9 months ago
@SUPPORTGOODMUSIC1003 "17 clip revolvers" don't exist. Go back to CNN and jerk off to Chris Matthews.
MrZerostr 7 months ago 7
@SUPPORTGOODMUSIC1003 What kind of revolver has "17 clips"? I'd like to know the answer to this one.
Sooprazn 3 weeks ago
@SUPPORTGOODMUSIC1003 Also it is betterto have it and not need it, to need it and not have it. So please stop supporting the ban of Assault Rifles, because I know for a fact over the arguement we have had for the past hours that you are a Law abiding Citizen, but im just more pro gun than you and doesn't wan't to let go of any sort of firearm. Plus our founding fathers were alot smarter and knew guns eventually were going to get to that spot, and wanted us to be able to defend against the gov.
Tux3d0 9 months ago
@Tux3d0 and the better to have it and not need argument is kinda fucked up because it means you favor your paranoia that tomorrow there will be some gov takeover that over the lives of poor people. plus if army tanks ever do come rolling down the street it wont matter how many AK shells you have, i own a gun by the way and get over yourself you aren't going to be like the minutemen it takes awhile to form a military force to tackle a government
SUPPORTGOODMUSIC1003 9 months ago
@SUPPORTGOODMUSIC1003 Not paranoid my Family Preps and we don't own any Ak-47 or 7.62x39 also our neighbors have already planned this in and out. THERE IS MORE OF US THAN YOU THINK. Never said i was going to be like a minuteman did I? Never would wan't to fight the government head on it would be guerilla warefare and self preservation. The way our country is right now Shit could hit the fan at any time, and china is pretty close to bankrupting us, so give this replie a LONG HARD THOUGHT.
Tux3d0 9 months ago
@SUPPORTGOODMUSIC1003 Before you replie please do, not trying to insult you im just telling you GIVE IT A LONG HARD THOUGHT please!!! It would be for the betterment of our NATION! :p
P.S. (Sorry if I keep changing the conversation)
Tux3d0 9 months ago
@Tux3d0 it's all good but i don't know what to think of that, what does that even mean shit could hit the fan? what would happen that would make things as bad for suburban and rural america as for the inner city? that's what im failing to see also using phrases like "the way things are now" kinda makes me think your pretty paranoid cause there are plenty of countries way worse off that aren't half as armed as this country and havnt experienced some Marxist takeover
SUPPORTGOODMUSIC1003 9 months ago
@SUPPORTGOODMUSIC1003 LOL okay maybe a bit paranoid, but I like being prepared also, China could take over our economy if we keep borrowing money from them in MASSES and buying from them so that is why we need to buy American and bring jobs here to America otherwise we are screwed.
Tux3d0 9 months ago
@Tux3d0 ok a country can't "take over" a countries economy the way you are thinking what would happen would be they could demand certain amounts of money threatening to not lend any more and we would have to cut programs to make that money (which is what conservatives want to do already) and again it's kinda fucked up that you vote for certain guns to be legal because you like to be prepared when they clearly are killing poor people.
Your equation is:
My Comfort > Poor Peoples Safety
SUPPORTGOODMUSIC1003 9 months ago
@SUPPORTGOODMUSIC1003 I am a avid gun owner and citizen and it is true a aks 7.62 round will fail to damage a tank but i ama proud owner of a barret m109 25mm anti tank rifle which will indeed penatrate a tank.
steamingpoopfart 8 months ago
@SUPPORTGOODMUSIC1003 Fat people can do it because they either have a tree stand or a blind, that or they use an ATV and are far enough from the animals that are still at a close range enough to kill them. UK has tight restrictions on guns so no not very many if you have a .22 your like on a terrorist watch list, plus when Gangsters kill eachother it is kind of good that is why it is so hard to get a FULL AUTO gun legally these days because of GANGSTERS that ruin it for LAW ABIDING CITIZENS!!!
Tux3d0 9 months ago
maybe they should pick out a handful of people be able to carry guns concealed so if someone came to the school to try and attack them they could pull it out but they would have to be cappable and have to pass a test so then if someone tryed to attack the school the students could defend them selves and other. if everyone had a gun it would be horrid because maybe one student didnt like another and just shot him i mean serously this is a two way cause.
santasazombie 1 year ago
@santasazombie I beg to differ, zombie. "If everyone had a gun, it would be horrid" presupposes that EVERYONE is unstable and on the verge of mass murder. I'm NOT saying you're ignorant, but the argument is. I've heard Al Sharpton spew this ridiculous claptrap too. Who are the "they" that would do the "picking," and who would the "handful of people" be that would carry the concealed weapons? Again, zombie, it's not you, it's just not a very logical or thought-out position. Peace out.
wannawatchu66 1 year ago
great. not only did this man kill 32 people, we are also allowing the rights of others to be taken away because of this one man. every time someone commits a horrid crime with firearms in this country, it seems we make tighter and tighter gun laws to try and compensate for it, when 99% of registered gun owners are responsible, law abiding people.
Magnedudewon2 1 year ago
@Magnedudewon2 Amen brother! The fact is if guns were banned only the criminals would have them! IE. Drugs are banned yet people still obtain them!
imax1971 1 year ago
@imax1971 finally someone that knows what im talking about! thanks for helping restore my faith that some people are smart enough to see the big picture.
Magnedudewon2 1 year ago
i get so sick of people talking about college students like they are children. Hello, its college all of the students are adults, and if they are legally allowed to carry a gun outside of school, why not at school? Do they think they are more likely to shoot someone in school rather than at the park or on the street?
TheProGunLiberal 1 year ago
@TheProGunLiberal I totally agree. Most college students are adults, meaning they can own guns, join the military, become cops, get married, vote, etc.
Collge students are not different people on campus and off campus. If they can have guns off campus, they should be able to have them on campus.
sarasmith125 1 year ago
school students should get to carry guns i don't think it will help i know it will help, not to mention there are more shootings and crims in a gun free zone
sardorn 1 year ago
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Patriot444333222111 1 year ago
teachers with guns: YES students: NO
but thats on campus maybe have the students leave a unloaded fire arm in their car but some kids are stupid. But i think its even stupider to be 18 and not be able to own a pistol. gayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
zr2chevypickupman 1 year ago
@zr2chevypickupman If I can carry a gun off campus, there's no reason whatsoever that I shouldn't be able to carry one on campus.
sarasmith125 1 year ago
@sarasmith125 well yeah but idk... maybe some college students will be responsible but some dumbasses will try to pull a billy bad ass with a gun and starting shit just so he can protect himself.. but idk i think only students with a concealed weapons permit should be able to carry one just so you dont get those that try to pull a quick one on other students who dont carry guns
zr2chevypickupman 1 year ago
@zr2chevypickupman And how is that different than anybody else off campus being able to carry a gun? Some people will be responsible and some won't. That's how it's always been and how it always will be.
sarasmith125 1 year ago
That blond girl with the glasses is stupid.
MadHatter34784 1 year ago
Good for them.
TruthFan 1 year ago
I see reasons to keep them banned and to unban them. They SHOULD be able to have them for safety reasons and it would disscourage fights and bla bla bla.. they SHOULD NOT be able to carry a gun because.. lets be honest how many kids would you trust with guns in your class? kids are oftem stupid and could cause more harm then good.
I DO think they should be able to if they get a permit, they could get it with expeirence with firearms, safety training, ect.
waterdragon1908 1 year ago
Great idea, it's the way it SHOULD be! 0:28, the first three words out of that girls mouth, " I DON'T think " = victim mentality!! Why should those type OPINIONS be allowed to infringe upon the RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE?
johnnythinker 1 year ago
A well regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free
State; the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall NOT be
infringed.
Not "Shall be infringed when other people don't feel it's safe." or "Shall be limited to where the proper authorities allow you to carry."
Uuxaul 1 year ago
Why can't they just carry a 38 in a leg-holster, where no one sees it? I mean, f...ck the rules? They won't punisch you if you get killed.
AntonScream 1 year ago
guns in school, NO , stupid idea,
Teacher has gun's encase of a student pulls out a gun and tries to kill people = YES
135Jacob 1 year ago
@135Jacob If a student is legally able to carry a firearm off campus with a CCW permit why cant they carry on campus? If they a responsible carrying on the street they will be responsible on campus.
whothaplaya 1 year ago
@135Jacob Why is it a stupid idea? People have to get a conceal weapons permit to carry a gun as it is( which I totally disagree with), so they're already licensed by the state. The government has already said that they can safely handle a gun and they've been educated on when they can and can't use guns. People face the same dangers on and off campus, so they should be able to carry on campus as well as off campus.
sarasmith125