I consider myself a Pagan. I believe that all our Gods are the same thing appearing in different forms to all of us. I think that thing is the embodiment of love that created our world and the natural laws and all that.
For myself, I have crafted it into a Supreme Goddess (Queen of Love, I call her) and five Faery Queens (song, water, air, fire, earth).
I celebrate Christmas. I think Jesus was a very good person and don't have a bad word to say about him.
@SariaSchala I want us to stop hating each other based on religion, since in all the doctrines there's the law of "be nice to everyone, please!" I think people should start practicing what they preach. All our Gods are the same and whoever it is to you (s)he loves you and this world itself loves you. I want the harmony of love's ties to come back.
what is MOST interesting to observe here is the HATRED "thy fellow-man" and despise to ANY other opinion openly shown by those "true Christians" to other "bad guys" who tried just to discuss the things from their own point of view and EVEN DARED to question the logics and the morale of the Christian religion and its fanatics, let alone to mention some of the bloody deeds of the Christians in human history. That is why I organically REJECTED and will reject Christianity,
@worras2007 So you decided to Go to hell becose some people question you for asking questions? Dont let others get to you in your faith,its your faith not theres.I nev er ever question God,But I do question alot of the bible,some of it=not real scripture,pauls letters are not scripture.his way of thinking not scripture.My point is,we all question, but the ones who follow traditions of men,they never question other men,they follow men.Dont let otehrs define your faith,with love to you
@worras2007 The hate comes from them not getting Gods glory,they crave Gods glory so much,if you dont listen to them or follow them they get angry,becouse,they lost the glory that was gods in the first place.Its nothing more then a glory war.jesus said this about glory.I come not for my glory,but for my father glory.he wantd only to glorify God proving he was not faulse. Any one who thinks they deseve something becouse of there faith is well,not of God.
@mystic81006 Once a man who traveled through a forest saw a happy devil running with a bright gem in his hands. "Devil, what's in your hands, where are you rushing so much and why are you so happy?", asked the man. The devil answered with a smile "This is not a gem - it's a piece of of truth. I am rushing to build a church using this thing. And I am very happy that after I build the church with this piece of truth, I will be able to hide the whole truth from the humans"...
I consider myself a Christian witch or Christopagan but it's frustrating because I can't seem to find an online forums or group that accepts me and some of the issues I question and debate because of it. I'm also an American, so it gets a little tricky speaking with some of the nonAmericans I've talked to online because of my perspectives.
Can't we all just get along? No, really. I personally am a witch and an ex-protestant, but i have very good friends, who are good people, that are christian. I have a problem with pagans who say that all christians are intolerant jerks, just as i have a problem with christians who say that pagans are evil. Both groups show a complete unwillingness to learn about the people they are saying bad things about, and assume that they are all the same.
Paganism and Wicca are far more "Christian" than Christianity. The OT goes on and on about owning slaves, stoning women who cheat on their husbands, etc, and "God" wiped out whole countries, young, old, and elderly alike, because they all supposedly went against God's people, or would in the future. How is someone who is supposed to give us the freedom of choice, and is supposedly a loving father to us, wipe out babies without giving them the chance to choose their path?
ok let me clear some things up about christians ok first of the holy cathloic church started the baby sacrficing and junk not any of the prodostent chruches we do not hate pagans well most christiansdont some like thecathloics hate paganas but you cantjust go judging the whole christian religion becuas of 1 troll that said nasty things o and btw worras you cant blame god or jesus for those starving kids in africa ok you cant blame god for man made disasters and my church gives there money away
i love seeing these arguments .. so pointless, im pagan but i just let what those Christians say because i have my own belief n they have theirs and if we go around arguing and such , what difference are we from them? just let them be and create all the unnecessary trouble..
I have no problem with those that choose to be christians or "pagans," pagans have the catholic church to thank for keeping some traditions alive by the way. What i do have a problem with is atheist saying they are both fools.
@worras2007 I dont think you know enough about christianity to make such a bold statement,from what I have read from ur statements its pretty clear you dont have much of an understanding of scripture.You believe christians are dumb zombies but you have based this on false information. True worshippers do not kill in the name of god.Perhaps its you that is a dumbass zombie!!
@MrOribear “Like most superstitions, the avoidance of the numbers 13 and 666 are examples of magical thinking,” said Phillips Stevens, Jr., associate professor of anthropology at the University at Buffalo, N.Y.
Such fears have even driven some conspiracy theorists to claim the “evil” 666 is hidden in product bar codes, he said.
He added that the Christian superstition of Friday the 13th as an evil day comes from the Last Supper, where there were 13 people at the table, and the
@MrOribear What bold statement? If you ever went to school, you probably know history? How the robbed Arab lands in the crusades, what they did to the Baltic tribes, what Christians did to American Indians and so on, not even mentioning such things as witch hunt or inquisition. Scripture? I do not give a damn shit to your piece of paper where you wrote all your fairy tales for idiots. I am talking about the REAL DEEDS and BLOODIEST CRIMES Christianity did to the humankind.
@worras2007 Yeah i went to school,infact i can almost guarentee my education is alot more than urs.Do you honestly think that these christians who murdered other faiths and cultures were really representing our creator?Just coz people claim to be christians doesnt make it so,and thats the case in ur examples of christians.They were just people who thought they were doings gods work because their leaders told them they were.
@worras2007 I take it you have studied the scriptures and know all about them for you to have made the decision that they are shit and full of fairy tales.If you havent you have made a decision on lack of information and makes you a dumbass like the millions of others who have done the same.You arent talking about the DEEDS and BLOODIEST crimes of TRUE christianity,ur taking about what scriptures state is false religion.Big difference!!
@MrOribear Yes, I studied. I studied Egyptology, I studied the Bible, I studies Hebrew (and read the first two books of Torah analysing each line and word grammatically), I studied history, as well as history of the Roman Catholic Church (my major interest was the Medieval ages). I was a Christian before and I formally refused Christianity. And my decisions are based on my MANY YEAR studies, the bloody deeds of the Christian church, and my personal experiences and education. So???
@worras2007 Well good for you.So you claim you were a christian but you have very little knowledge of what Jesus wants from you.If you were a christian you would be familiar with his words of "have no part of the world" What did he mean by this? You being an ex christian should be able to answer it.As a former christian you should be familiar with Jesus warning that many people will claim to act on his behalf but are do not.True christians do not kill in the name of god!!
Also - did you ever know that the Constitution of Stalin was, as put on paper, was the most democratic Constitution in the world that ever existed. This was on paper. In reality it was a tool to slaughter and put to jail MANY millions of people. So, even a murder or serial killer can tell how nice person he is with a smile on his face. And can tell many fairytale about how good he is. But it will not help the killer to wash the blood on his hands. Criminals will always find reasons to justify
@worras2007 What the hell has Stalin got to do with our conversation? Stalins political views have absolutely nothing to do with christianity, they dont even have anything to do with being a false christ. I can not for the life of me figure out why you would tell me this.My only thought is you are trying to somehow impress me with ur knowledge.Im not impressed coz i have decades of learning!!
@MrOribear With Stalin I meant a comparison - his most democratic constitution "on paper", and his bloody deeds. Same (and even worse) it is with Christianity - what Christianity "has on paper" and what it declares, has NOTHING to do what it ACTUALLY is in real life. I am not trying to impress nor convince you of anything. I am just telling my opinion that Christianity in theory is a true SATANISM in real life. And what are you trying to convince me? To convert back into your Satanism? NO WAY.
@worras2007 Yep and thats all is it,ur opinion.Ur opinion is not based on all the information.You do not know the scriptures.You hear of wrongs done in the name of christianity and assume thats what true christians do.A true worshipper of our creator listens to the voice and obeys him.No true christian will commit crimes in the name of god.I am not trying to convince you of anything.I am stating fact not opinion.
@MrOribear My opinion is NOT based on information? I provide all proof to my statements. Crimes of Christianity to the human kind? Here you are: inquisition, crusades, witch hunt, killing whole nations and destroying whole cultures (just two examples - Prussians, American native Indians). I can continue for long. And no, those crimes were not made in the name of Satan. Those crimes were made in the NAME OF JESUS CHRIST - a rotten corpse as a true Satanist symbol of Christians.
@worras2007 You are such a dumbass,i have already explained to you that these crimes were not committed by true christians.Just coz they killed in the name of Jesus doesnt mean they were acting on his behalf. I also said ur opinion was made with you not having ALL the information!!
@MrOribear So you want to say that there were no crusades, there were no inquisition tortures, there were NO CRIMES Christianity did to the humankind? Or that Christians have nothing to do with those crimes and Christianity? So you deny ALL IT HAPPENED? And blame me for stating these things as facts with inadequate information? And it is really Christian (not even speaking about elementary ethics) to call another person a dumbass when you do not have a single argument for your opinion?
@worras2007 Yep and thats all is it,ur opinion.Ur opinion is not based on all the information.You do not know the scriptures.You hear of wrongs done in the name of christianity and assume thats what true christians do.A true worshipper of our creator listens to the voice and obeys him.No true christian will commit crimes in the name of god.I am not trying to convince you of anything.I am stating fact not opinion
I was a Christian for 28 years and dabbled with Paganism-NewAge-Occultism for 5 to 7 years, and have struggled with finding out what the truth is about the original religion. I have come to the conclusion that there was one human religion based on worship of the elemental gods of Earth and that some very dark forces have taken over and CORRUPTED and DIVIDED this into multiple faiths. I even think the pentacle is a deception, among others.
@xander7ful I suggest you to get interested not in that pseudoPaganism, but in real Paganism - for example the Baltic Paganism - a high level and high moral standard belief that existed a thousand years before Christianity even appeared. This is a Proto-Indo-European Religion where you will find your own roots and harmony with nature, with yourself. I am not convincing you about anything (I am not a Christian who needs one more client for the sect), but you will find that interesting for sure.
@worras2007 Thank you. I'm convinced that each local ethnic group had their own "Pagan" Earth Religion and it did have a high moral standard & high beliefs, but it was respectful & in tune with nature also. I have some Slavic ancestry. I'm not sure I can find a Slavic pagan group, since I'm in the United States though.
@1984LizardKing What do you mean by "jumped up"? Christianity is just poor quality plagiarism of the wisdom of the Ancient Egypt (Judaism or the Old Testament). Later on Jews made a very powerful sect called Christianity for obedience, slavery, robbery, and murder of "the pagans" (anyone who dared to oppose their sect) that turned Vatican into an absolute power at those times. In the last century it lost the power and just became cheap show business.
@worras2007 what i mean by jumped up is christians pretty much stole the pagans religion through death and forceful conversion then used it as a basis for their own,the unoriginal cunts that they are.and the jews aswell.christianity is a fucking fraud is what im trying to say :)
@1984LizardKing True worshippers of our creator convertered people by reasoning with them using the scriptures. True christianity never stole any beliefs from pagan beliefs.
@1984LizardKing The days of the week have nothing to do with christianity stealing from pagan beliefs. True christians do not celebrate xmas or other pagan festive holidays!! So what have they stolen?
@1984LizardKing I would like to say I understood what you are on about but i cant. You have rattled on with a whole lot of stuff but havent managed to say anything. I have asked you what christianity have stolen from pagan beliefs.The stuff you mentioned isnt celebrated(expect weddings) by true worshippers of our creator.They are simply traditions of men,which the scriptures warn us about.You mentioned days and months, how have they been stolen from paganism by christianity?
@MrOribear many of today's customs came into christianity through constantine who, in 325 ad,, began the process of converting the official pagan religion of the roman empire to christianity.
note the word 'converting'. as any organizer of a new venture knows, it's a lot easier, quicker and cheaper to change the sign on the door than to change the whole building.christianity was modelled on many customs that were familiar and acceptable to jews and agans at that time, when religion
@MrOribear many of today's customs came into christianity through constantine who, in 325 AD, began the process of converting the official pagan religion of the roman empire to christianity.
note the word 'converting'.as any organizer of a new venture knows, it's a lot easier, quicker and cheaper to change the sign on the door than to change the whole building. christianity was modelled on many customs that were familiar and acceptable to jews and pagans at that time, when religion
@1984LizardKing I am familiar with the council of Nicea.I am also fully aware of how pagan beliefs became intertwined into mainstream christianity but that doesnt mean these are acceptable to our creator. If he wanted us to celebrate say Valentines day he would have mentioned it somewhere in scripture.There is no superstition in true worship!!
@1984LizardKing my religion isnt full of superstition at all. Infact I can honestly say theres no superstition at all. My faith doesnt support the idea of eternal punishment and neither do the scriptures. Scripture say the wages for sin is death,not the wages for sin is getting punished forever!!
@MrOribear superstition is defined as any belief or attitude that is inconsistent with the known laws of science or with what is generally considered in the particular society as true and rational; especially, such a belief in charms, omens, the supernatural, etc." it is also "any action or practice based on such a belief or attitude (webster's new world dictionary of the american language).
@1984LizardKing Like i said my faith doesnt teach superstitious stuff,it doesnt teach me to say bless you when someone sneezes. Just coz science cant explain demons doesnt make them untrue, there are many things science is unable to explain,friday13 and bar codes,well both are just superstitious rubbish and/or conspiracy theories as you have said.They arent from our creator,he doesnt tell me to fear a black cat while walking under a ladder,so why would i acknowledge them as being truth?
@1984LizardKing People tend to put alot of faith into science to come up with the explanations to the unknowns of life.Its a known fact that the more science learns about the universe and everything in it,the more they realize how very little we know.If science claims there is no god then they have based their decision with the very little information they have.Not exactly trustworthy now is it?
@MrOribear science is trustowrthy or you wouldnt be typing in your keyboard would you? cience is demonstrable.religion is not. no doubt you will dismiss this truth as another of my arrogances, but it is a very important point. and whilst you disagree with science,guess what? its done alot more for the world than anything that any religious leader has so far managed to reason.science's capacity to prove is so much greater than your god, who proves nothing and provides no insight into anything
@1984LizardKing I dont recall me saying I disagreed with science.I did say that the information science bases their decisions on is very limited.As far as our creator not providing any insight into anything is absolutely nonsense.What do you think the scriptures are for?Finally as for ur no doubt i will dismiss this truth as ur arrogancy, seems to me ur calling urself arrogant not me.I see it as you also making decisions without having all the info.
@MrOribear every christian falls to this superstition.when i sneeze, your most likely response will be to immediately say "bless you",or something to that extent.maybe we don't even realize that is a superstition,but it is.why ask god's blessing on someone who sneezes?the ancient belief was that a person's spirit or soul was found in the breath or in the air in his head.when someone sneezed, there was the danger that the spirit would be expelled unless god's blessing was called.
@1984LizardKing Bless you when sneezing has in origin in superstition like you have said but nowadays that original meaning has been lost.People no longer fear their soles leaving their body.So when a sneeze occurs im fairly confident that people arent praying to god begging so there soul doesnt fall out,to say bless you is now meaningless.To prove my point go ask someone who isnt familiar with the history of sneezes and bless you's and ask them why say it. Guozentight(spelling?) was our word.
@MrOribear and belief were intertwined with superstition.this contrasts with today's norm - at least in economically advanced countries, with greater access to education and science, people base their religious belief on reasoning rather than superstition.
@MrOribear They have stolen lives. Yo can read about the fate of a Baltic nation called Prussians. They all were killed by Christians. The whole nation was swept off the surface of the map "in the name of Jesus Christ".
@worras2007 stolen lives, the prussians were not killed by true christians,though they may have claimed to have been christians. Jesus said you would know his people by their actions.A true worshipper of our creator doesnt kill in his name.Jesus also said "have no part of the world" In other words dont get involved with the world politics.Anyone can claim to worship our creator but that doesnt mean our creator excepts their worship!!
@1984LizardKing If you were a little bit more than just an illiterate idiot, it would make sense to discuss with you and tell the facts (like facts about Christian churches built on ruins of sacred Pagan places). But as long as you are a f-ken Christian (a dumb zombie of a sect), seems that explaining this to you would be a waste of time.
@worras2007 i am a christian? funny how i've been an atheist my whole life,but yeagh,im christian,thanks for that.you are a bright person.really literate,you can read and understand simple paragraphs perfectly.
@1984LizardKing Well said :) Christians came to kill, rob, and destroy NOT in the name of Satan, but in the name of JESUS CHRIST. Christianity is the biggest crime in the history of humankind. Such a pseudoreligion based on plagiates with blood on their hands and its self-righteous "representatives" do not even have the moral right to tell anything about other beliefs. But they, being the servants of Satan, tell that Paganism worships evil even having a ZERO understanding what it is at all.
@worras2007 yep,true.its a virus and definetley will be remembered as the worst organisation of all time.i stay in a place riddled with catholic/protestant sectarianism........even though the idea of god existing goes out the window around the age of 9 yet sectarianism is fine,try get your head around that one :)being a christian is like being in a gang,its just an excuse to hate.the immunity they get is fucking stupid aswell.oh well,im away to watch "kids who preach" on nat geo.sick fucks lol
@1984LizardKing Well said :) Christians came to kill, rob, and destroy NOT in the name of Satan, but in the name of JESUS CHRIST. Christianity is the biggest crime in the history of humankind. Such a pseudoreligion based on plagiates with blood on their hands and its self-righteous "representatives" do not even have the moral right to tell anything about other beliefs. But they, being the servants of Satan, tell that Paganism worships evil even having a ZERO understanding what it is at all.
@vXDREWXv It could have shown a bit more of what Christianity was all about, but as for being biased, I think it was pretty fair. Remember, there are good and bad things about Christianity, but at it's core, it is a religion magpied from many others. In other words, he may know more about Paganism than Christianity simply because there isn't much about Christianity that did not originally come from Paganism.
religious debates on a video.. Really? They make forums for that. Please, do get the point to NOT argue. We Pagans don't post this crap on your videos so how about you and your "Good People" take a hike. K thanks bye.
@Godzfriend1 YOUR God was built on, and came after, ours - Psalms don't apply to us. Christians have purposely created a God, and a path to God, in direct opposition to what was popular at the time (Paganism), and actively punished and killed dissidents. Do you consent to modern changes to Christianity? Do you believe you should follow the modern versions of Christianity, or do you see them as a perversion? That's how Pagans feel about Christianity.
@Godzfriend1 We as Pagans believe that divinity is not an exclusive, seperate concept. We see divinity and the energy of creation in all of The One's creations in this universe; the creator AND the vase, if you will. Because of this, we revere the creator and all its creations in a respectful and loving way, and believe we are living amongst the divine, everyday.
Christianity is the REAL SATANISM - hypocrisy, unconditional self-righteousness, a non-questionable belief that others are inferior and "not right" (actually bad - evil worshipers), greed (just see how much riches, property and gold the Christian Church has when people in the world starve), only Christianity could invent such a horror like inquisitions, etc. This is the REAL EVIL.
@worras2007 They don't exactly worship a devil, though they are one of the few religions with a truly evil entity. What they do worship, however is one of the war gods (I do not recall which one).
@skywize Well, the CHRISTIAN Trinity comes from PAGANISM. Because Pagans had all three "major gods" - the god of the heaven, the god of the earth, and the god of the dead (the "underworld") + the superior god/power (the god who created the universe). All this stems from many ages down to Greek and Roman mythology. And this has nothing to do with worship of evil powers. This is a pure invention of Christianity that told that all what is not Christian, is evil and bad.
@worras2007 Only Christianity could invent such a horror like inquisitions?? lol..Christianity is based on Belief in CHRIST. and if you claim to be a follower of Christ then you know he preached Peace, Loving thy Neighbor, No Violence and so on. Those "Christian Crusaders" etc were clearly not followers of Christ. Its called the sin of MAN. & U CONVENIENTLY leave out Stalin & others like him, who killed thousands of religious people in the name of Atheism..smh..ATHEISM IS THE REAL SATANISM
@mellymel51029 I'm a Pagan, not an Atheist, but I'm pretty sure that you are using the same argument that worras2007 did, and that is lumping all people of a particular group together. Atheism is Satanism? Not really. You'd have to believe in Satan in the first place. Also, plenty of Atheists fought against Stalin. Try not to mix religion and power. Those with power use religion (or the lack of) for their own gain.
@CrazyMastodon Im not the one mixing religion & power, he is. FYI Satanists dont necessarily worship Satan per say. They reject GOD,They believe in enjoying the pleasures of the flesh, in not having a guilty conscience about anything, & theres no such thing as sin. Only man's true desire/ Carnal Nature. Which are all the things Satan represented. Atheists fall into this category as well, because you cant be an Atheist and believe in objective Morality either. Total Contradiction.
@mellymel51029 Well, that was a very biased generalization of an entire system of seeing the world, and ignorant on some points. Objective morality can exist without theism, Atheists will argue that one. Satanists do worship Satan.The Christian viewpoint is that if you don't worship Christ/God, then you are being fooled by Satan and are following his ways. Again, this is ignorant and would lump 2/3 of the world into this. You might want to open your mind a little before you chastise others.
@CrazyMastodon U think you're so smart don't you lol..I can say the same about u atheists, pagan or whatever you consider yourself. Open YOUR mind a little before you chastise others. & Being "Fooled by something" does not mean the same thing as Knowingly Worshipping. Athiest contradict their argument of Objective Morality. We're only matter & energy. Then how are we independent of our Genes??. How can you say something is Bad or Good if you're just dancing to your DNA. Huh???
@mellymel51029 May I ask you? How do you judge about people? You judge from what they tell/declare, or you judge from what they do in real life? I personally judge from the DEEDS and I do not care what is declared. And would you trust a company or bank that cheated many people but on their website they tell how reliable and good they are? OK, Christ taught love, peace, etc. and you are his follower. But why then you hate people so much and do not show (but only declare) that in real life?
@worras2007 Lol thats what Im saying, You judge from the deeds, not what Religion is declared in the name of that deed. Many Ex- Marines commit murder every year and are sent to jail. You dont hear people blaming the Marines for those DEEDS. They blame the man. Yet the Marines teaches people how to kill. Christianity doesn't. And Christianity doesn't hate anyone. where are you getting your info from?? lol
@mellymel51029 So logically, you want me to believe in the fairy tales of Christians who bathed in blood of innocent people. You know, I do not care what Christianity teaches. I care what it does and what it did. Sorry, but I do not want to believe in the fairy tales told by a sect of murderers, dissemblers, and robbers. I do not care how they call themselves and what they say. I believe in other things. Things related to morality, decency, and people who follow this in their real life.
@mellymel51029 HAHAHAHAHAHA! That's a good one! Sorry dude, but if someone commits murder (even if it IS an ex-Marine) no one's blaming the victim. And FYI, Marines are SOLDIERS. They're trained to kill because that's their purpose.
You're totally right about Christianity not teaching to kill, though. All those passages about stoning non-believers to death, banishing people into the harsh deserts and burning people alive aren't TEACHING how to kill, they're just commanding you to.
@CarFox6 No you idiot, Being "Christian" means a believer & follower of Christ. Where in all of Christ teachings do you see him "commanding anyone to kill"?...You talk about Stoning Non Believers, In the New Testament, when they were about to stone a woman for committing adultery, what did Jesus say?.."He who hath not sin, cast the first stone"..and of course they were all sinners & did not throw the stone. So as I said, if a so called "Christian" commits murder, you blame the man, not Christ.
@mellymel51029 Ahem, "Any Israelite or any alien living in Israel who gives any of his children to Molech must be PUT TO DEATH. The people of the community are to STONE HIM. If anyone curses his mother or father, he must be PUT TO DEATH. If a man commits adultery with another man's wife--with the wife of his neighbor--both the adulterer and the adulteress must be PUT DO DEATH. If a man marries both a woman and her mother, it is wicked. Both he and they must be BURNED IN THE FIRE." Need I go on?
@CarFox6 LOL Jesus never spoke those words. Quote me anything in the New Testament, which is all about Jesus, where he commands ANYONE to kill..I think you're quoting from the Old Testament. and you have to remember, that is how people thought in those days. People were stoned by PEOPLE, Homosexuality was considered an Abomination, and if you cursed your mother/father they believed you should be put to death. Its still like that today in some Countries. Jesus taught Forgiveness, not Condemnation
@mellymel51029 It is because they are leaving The Paul's teaching, Christianity. And return to the original Jesus teaching to love everyone, to obey the God's command, to fear the Only True God, the creator himself. And the old testament are the important parts of Christianity, without it Paul doesn't have any power to claim Jesus as God to the Jews and early Jesus follower. Homosexual are Big Sins, remember what happen to Soddom and Gomorah? you should stop that desease to grow in your society.
@mellymel51029 So you believe in what Jesus said, but not what God said? The entire book of Revelations is completely meaningless to you? And if Jesus didn't teach condemnation, why do Christians tell me that I'm going to hell for not worshiping their God and their ripoff of Horus?
@CarFox6 If Christians tell you that you're going to hell, then they are in violation of what is taught in the New Testament..LUKE 6:37" Do not judge, and you will not be judged. Do not condemn, and you will not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven.." MATTHEW 7: 1 “Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2 For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you."..According to Scripture..GOD is the only Judge..
@Godzfriend1 that is bullshit. The real Pagans believe that the universe and all what exists was created by the "god of genesis" - the SUPREME INTELLECT and all the rest was evolution "supervised" by that intellect.
@worras2007 You can't speak of Pagans as a whole like that sine it's not an organized religion. And no Pagan I've ever know has ever believed in that theory. Most Pagans believe in the Horned God and the Goddess because of the duality of nature, and every Pagan I know believes in the big bang, not that the God and Goddess (or the gods and goddesses, if they're truly polytheistic) created the world.
@CarFox6 Well, all what you just said here is the very best proof that people know very little about Paganism. To be more exact - they do not know anything about it. Zero knowledge. OK, there are many varieties of Paganism, but if we speak about Baltic (neo-)Paganism, I can bet you hear such words as "Romuva", "krivis", "alkas" and so on. Please read at least something by Marija Gimbutas (Gimbutiene) - there are books in English too. Then we could talk.
It is really frustrating and at the same time funny to see how the self-righteous Christians accuse everyone who is not a Christian to be Satan worshiper, witch. Why do you Christians believe that everyone who is not with you is against us? Btw, let's recall history. What was the name of the god in whose name people were turtured and killed, rivers of blood were shed, whole nations and civilizations destroyed? Was the name Satan? No. That god was Jesus Christ.
As a Pagan, I believe that Judeo-Christian religions and their bastard Islamic cousins are pure evil, to put it bluntly.
I am a servant of Pluto, Patron God of Death, The Underworld, Damnation, and Fortunes.
My enemies are the Christian tyrants and their equally wicked Muslim cousins.
Pagan Rome was one of the greatest civilizations in Human History, until Constantine, a half-Celtic bastard usurped the Imperial Roman Throne and instituted a false and evil religion.
@Godzfriend1 your god is a jealous god your god must be a woman and you do know there was many gods before your god. and how do you know created any thing because a book you read it's 2011 you got to be smarter then that. love and live life it may be the only one we get
Judge not less you be judged.. You Christians really need to do some more reading in your buy-BULL +shit get it ;) lumablueeeyes you may not be a Wiccan or pagan but you hold my respect )o(
Just because we have different beliefs then you Christans do. That doesn't give you the right to accuse us of doing evil deeds. I have nothing against Christans. But some of you who claim to be Christian and judge people or shun them out because they have different beliefs or because their gay. Doesn't give you the right to judge of who they are or where they come. Start on your own back door before you do others.
For those of you who think we worship the devil and evil spirits. Your wrong. Im not a Pagan. But I am a witch. And different Pagans, Witches, Wiccans, all have different beliefs. But I am a Nature Witch. I believe in the One God and One Goddess. And if you think we're evil and heartless or if you have something to say then just say it. Also by you people calling us devil worshippers get your facts striaght first and your research done before accusing.
Just because you clam that your god created everything does not make it so! It's human nature to worship Beauty. Why worship somthing that's never been seen? Just because the buy-bull says your god is the only true god does not make it so!!! And if your god is a jealous one then I'm glad I'm not a Christian because jealousy is next to despicableness I pity you godzfriend1
not just the pentacle. what of the hammer, the axe, and the sword? they were the symbols of the only people who could kick everyones ass, the vikings.
Basque was spoken in all of Europe as a common language,because almost all the population of Europe had migrated from the Sahara when the formerly productive land became a desert .New cults from Anatolia, all of them promoted male domination. Priests were sent all over Europe with orders to destroy the ancient religion of the Goddess, create nations,and invent new languages for each new nation.Every language had to be based on the basque language because there was no other from which to work
how could any on really research the roots and teachings of paganism and say it is wrong or evil when it teaches equality, respecting our world and nature and animals, and loving one another? You don't have to believe in the multiple Gods. Yet more people choose to believe in a religion that damns many to a terrible place they call hell, teaches discrimination, encourages stoning, and represents a God who is angry, murderous and torturous? Want to talk about a backwards world...wow...
@dancesonpoles The KEY thing in Pagan religion is HARMONY, PEACE, and RESPECT. Harmony with oneself, harmony with the nature, and respect to all live beings, harmony of ALL this entity of this with the Universe. Paganism is JUST THE OPPOSITE of the "acts" of Christianity, which covered its bloody hands, and came to rob, and slaughter "in the name of the ONLY RIGHTEOUS GOD". Christianity and its deeds is the shame of the humanity.
@dancesonpoles - "If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is!" That's pretty much the pessimistic society we live in. "Hope? Love? Salvation?" That must all come at a SACRIFICE. You see, sacrifice is like a game, where you win many coins and the more you suffer the more coins you get! The more coins you get the more credit you will have in "Heaven" ! Yay! lol I hope I'm not coming off as rude, this is seriously how people see the world. They become addicted to being a victim.
@aqualovr9 No, not ONLY matriarchal. It is a very old believ (many times older and richer than Christianity). And Matriarchal and Patriarchal motives changed during history. Take the Scandinavian god of thunder Thor - it is not a woman :) Or its Baltic pagan equivalent Perkunas. Well, in some sense you are right - Paganism was matriarchal in its early stages. Yes, society is too much pumped up with the Christian self-righteous shit, propaganda of slavery and obedience.
@aqualovr9 Witches? Wtf? Those people were just wise, and best educated, and spiritual leaders at those times and were most serious "competitors" for the Christian business. So, they had to eliminate their "competitors" using all possible measures - from accusing them of the dirtiest things, to burning them alive.
Man, I REALLY HATE SO MUCH that fucken Christian approach "Who is not with us, is AGAINST US"...I was not WITH Christians ealier, I just did not give a fuck, but now I am AGAINST them
Yeah christianiy has some jacked up ideas. That's why it made the Jews the people who killed christ. Their main motive is to make other religions look bad so that no one converts.
@kewleodobop and a shit load of other religions came before Judiasm and many of Judiasm stories are made up from previous stories of much older religions
@kewleodobop Exuse me all are free to choose there on path if u are Juish then thats ur path but to otherpeople they may believe diffrent things so im Pagan but i never say anything bad about other religions just some things some people dont believe in and you should not try to even say anything bad about other religions since they beleive in other things that they may not i respect other peoples choices in there path of religion but u should not sware and say judism is the one and tru path.
@kewleodobop Actually Judaism did not come first. It was, however the first recorded monotheistic religion (meaning the worship of a single god). Judaism actually was born of polytheism (belief in many gods). You should see the video; "3.3.3 Atheism - A History of God part 1", or look up the words 'polytheism' and 'Christianity'.
To make matters worse, we celebrate these Pagan holidays with more made up bullshit. We have Christmas with Santa Claus who delivers all the presents in one night via flying deer. We have Easter with a bunny that lays eggs. I mean come on. When does the madness stop? Our whole society is based on lies and deceipt. Love yourself and be good to your neighbors. We are our own god and it`s up to us to choose which path we take in life. No religion necessary.
paganism was made into christianity and tried to contradict The real God Paganism is christianity. Paganism is wrong and christianity is wrong in my case don't be born into the worlds customs question it first and create the right thing. Secret societies have betrayed us. I have signs from God himself. They are both wrong.
its only a matter of time before Christianity is laughed at. Paganism will be looked at positively, but we will be embarrasses of all 3 of the desert cults.
and nor does the bible really condemn anyone.. it is clear that those who accepts the true hero and he who sacrifised himself to save the world, will deserve to claim a special reward from god which is meant to be a reward, of rewards every day. a life here on earth, pure, with no worries and the presence of jesus at all time. the things mentioned about diseases, sickness, and all that god put upon humans were in the old testament, but no longer. you got the will to choose, now choose..
Well i rather choose to believe in a whole new world called heaven or new jerusalem, all new and not imaginable for us. it makes me excited, and when at every moment when i try to imagine heaven, i realise that i just cant see it in my human head, we, creatures who are so clever and smart. it just makes me excited.. i dont want to enter a world based all on nature and continue living like we do now.. waring, hating, aids and a confused bunch of different gods/godesses. agh no.. i need only one
2:07 Can anyone tell me what the letters A, I, U, E and O at the points of the star stand for? Are they used because they´re vocals? What meaning would this have?
This is all true. As a Pagan myself, I say that you got everything right. I only worship the full moon, new moon, blue moon, and black moon, not all of the phases though. BTW, I'm probably the only Pagan who will willingly say that they openly hate Catholiscism/Christianity(more of a strong dislike for the Protestants. They didn't do quite as much attempted genocide.)
Why do Christians always have to go proselytizing Pagans? We have heard your word, decided not to go with, and have gone on our own path. Why insist on trying to convert the heathens? Do you really think that your telling us what sinners we are and how we must repent or go to hell will change our minds?
Pagans don't go trying to tell you all of the wrongs in your religion. Why can't we all just agree to disagree and be kind to each others choices?
I am surprised this presentation was allowed in a southern school. Nature religions may recommend a path, taoism has a written instrument. Nature religions advise rather than command enforced by threats of a vengeful deity.
Oh and we all see the divine in different ways. What is so hard to accept with that? I am Pagan my best friend is an Atheist my Parents are Christian I know a guy who is a Satanist (and he is really chill). May the divine be with you in whatever form it comes in.
We must forgot that both Pagans and Christians have blood on their hands. Both forced conversion by the sword. Paganism has been around for much longer then Christianity and much of Paganism falls into pre history. How can we say that Pagans did not fight over their Gods over the other Gods? We do no know and I am sure they did. Accept that both sides have wronged and forgive and forget. May we work together for a better future. -Fellow Pagan
I am a Christian, i dont celebrate Christmas , Easter ,birthdays, halloween ,new years ,april fools etc , basically any tradition founded by men. Jesus never said to remember the day of his birth only the love of Gods message to us. Christmas and Easter are celebrated on the DATES of pagans festivals , not actual pagan celebrations.Peace of the LORD be with you all !
@Michimera No Christ is the chief cornerstone of the church, he founded the spiritual church where as Christians ,we are one body .Christianity is not based on paganism , the relationship with God aspect is not based on paganism AT ALL it is merely the celebrations which Christ never told us to celebrate that are pagan .As I said I don't celebrate them.Do you think the apostle Paul celebrated them?Christianity is a relationship with God through Jesus Christ.Peace of the LORD be with you, Amen
@Michimera Its quite annoying how ignorant people are about Christianity, the least you could do is learn what Christianity means besides your idea of how we just go to church every Sunday and do what the physical church tells us, no we don't ,we adhere to God's word, we are in the spiritual church that is in Christ Jesus.I don't believe pagans worship the devil and Jesus doesn't neither.You just have the wrong idea about God. Peace of the LORD be with you ,Amen
@LoveGodLoveNeighbor1 Actually, I do know what it is to be Christian. The definition of Christianity wasn't my point. The point was the origin of the religion.
@Michimera Yes , as I have said , Christ is the chief cornerstone .Don't confuse your idea of Christianity with mine.Christianity began with faith in Christ .Christianity is a relationship with God through Christ Jesus.It is not the Roman Catholic Church founded by Constantine. But that doesn't mean to say the bible isn't the divinely inspired word of God, it was only compiled by Constantine.The text itself is the holy message of Gods love for us.If you accept Christ you are in HIS church.
@LoveGodLoveNeighbor1 Again, my definition of Christianity is the same as yours. Anyway, mind if I ask what personally leads you to believe that the Bible IS 'the divinely inspired word of God'? I'll just put out there that I don't mean to cause offence or start a mindless argument.
pinkfloyd nice
greyhawk777 1 month ago
I consider myself a Pagan. I believe that all our Gods are the same thing appearing in different forms to all of us. I think that thing is the embodiment of love that created our world and the natural laws and all that.
For myself, I have crafted it into a Supreme Goddess (Queen of Love, I call her) and five Faery Queens (song, water, air, fire, earth).
I celebrate Christmas. I think Jesus was a very good person and don't have a bad word to say about him.
SariaSchala 1 month ago
@SariaSchala I want us to stop hating each other based on religion, since in all the doctrines there's the law of "be nice to everyone, please!" I think people should start practicing what they preach. All our Gods are the same and whoever it is to you (s)he loves you and this world itself loves you. I want the harmony of love's ties to come back.
SariaSchala 1 month ago
i think there where a few faults in the information... i think maybe a personal bias was presented..
MrStevenPoo 1 month ago
Paganism ftw
TheNorsePagan 2 months ago
what is MOST interesting to observe here is the HATRED "thy fellow-man" and despise to ANY other opinion openly shown by those "true Christians" to other "bad guys" who tried just to discuss the things from their own point of view and EVEN DARED to question the logics and the morale of the Christian religion and its fanatics, let alone to mention some of the bloody deeds of the Christians in human history. That is why I organically REJECTED and will reject Christianity,
worras2007 2 months ago
@worras2007 So you decided to Go to hell becose some people question you for asking questions? Dont let others get to you in your faith,its your faith not theres.I nev er ever question God,But I do question alot of the bible,some of it=not real scripture,pauls letters are not scripture.his way of thinking not scripture.My point is,we all question, but the ones who follow traditions of men,they never question other men,they follow men.Dont let otehrs define your faith,with love to you
mystic81006 1 month ago
@worras2007 The hate comes from them not getting Gods glory,they crave Gods glory so much,if you dont listen to them or follow them they get angry,becouse,they lost the glory that was gods in the first place.Its nothing more then a glory war.jesus said this about glory.I come not for my glory,but for my father glory.he wantd only to glorify God proving he was not faulse. Any one who thinks they deseve something becouse of there faith is well,not of God.
mystic81006 1 month ago
@mystic81006 Once a man who traveled through a forest saw a happy devil running with a bright gem in his hands. "Devil, what's in your hands, where are you rushing so much and why are you so happy?", asked the man. The devil answered with a smile "This is not a gem - it's a piece of of truth. I am rushing to build a church using this thing. And I am very happy that after I build the church with this piece of truth, I will be able to hide the whole truth from the humans"...
worras2007 1 month ago
@worras2007 I dont know what to think about what you posted,but I like it,good story.
mystic81006 1 month ago
ive been watching religious videos on youtube for about an hour now and all of a sudden my athiest friend calls me on skype..
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felreaverguy 2 months ago
Really? we all gonna die, then what does any of this really matter?
hooktopia 2 months ago
I consider myself a Christian witch or Christopagan but it's frustrating because I can't seem to find an online forums or group that accepts me and some of the issues I question and debate because of it. I'm also an American, so it gets a little tricky speaking with some of the nonAmericans I've talked to online because of my perspectives.
PrincessKLS 3 months ago
@PrincessKLS Ummm Christian~Witch?..lol..Isn't that an Oxymoron?
mellymel51029 2 months ago
There is no One Way to find truth; each individual finds their own truth, in their own hearts, in ways that make them feel whole.
tarilyn23 3 months ago
Can't we all just get along? No, really. I personally am a witch and an ex-protestant, but i have very good friends, who are good people, that are christian. I have a problem with pagans who say that all christians are intolerant jerks, just as i have a problem with christians who say that pagans are evil. Both groups show a complete unwillingness to learn about the people they are saying bad things about, and assume that they are all the same.
tarilyn23 3 months ago
Paganism and Wicca are far more "Christian" than Christianity. The OT goes on and on about owning slaves, stoning women who cheat on their husbands, etc, and "God" wiped out whole countries, young, old, and elderly alike, because they all supposedly went against God's people, or would in the future. How is someone who is supposed to give us the freedom of choice, and is supposedly a loving father to us, wipe out babies without giving them the chance to choose their path?
HeartOfTheNoob 3 months ago
ok let me clear some things up about christians ok first of the holy cathloic church started the baby sacrficing and junk not any of the prodostent chruches we do not hate pagans well most christiansdont some like thecathloics hate paganas but you cantjust go judging the whole christian religion becuas of 1 troll that said nasty things o and btw worras you cant blame god or jesus for those starving kids in africa ok you cant blame god for man made disasters and my church gives there money away
multibambams 3 months ago
i love seeing these arguments .. so pointless, im pagan but i just let what those Christians say because i have my own belief n they have theirs and if we go around arguing and such , what difference are we from them? just let them be and create all the unnecessary trouble..
d3vilnaruto 3 months ago
I have no problem with those that choose to be christians or "pagans," pagans have the catholic church to thank for keeping some traditions alive by the way. What i do have a problem with is atheist saying they are both fools.
Rao665 3 months ago
love the video.I'm a pagan over here!! :)
Capricornchild1313 4 months ago
THE MAIN THING THAT CHRISTIANS REALLY SCARE ME THAT THEY ARE SELF-RIGHTEOUS MENTAL HANDICAPS.
worras2007 4 months ago
@worras2007 I dont think you know enough about christianity to make such a bold statement,from what I have read from ur statements its pretty clear you dont have much of an understanding of scripture.You believe christians are dumb zombies but you have based this on false information. True worshippers do not kill in the name of god.Perhaps its you that is a dumbass zombie!!
MrOribear 4 months ago
@MrOribear “Like most superstitions, the avoidance of the numbers 13 and 666 are examples of magical thinking,” said Phillips Stevens, Jr., associate professor of anthropology at the University at Buffalo, N.Y.
Such fears have even driven some conspiracy theorists to claim the “evil” 666 is hidden in product bar codes, he said.
He added that the Christian superstition of Friday the 13th as an evil day comes from the Last Supper, where there were 13 people at the table, and the
1984LizardKing 4 months ago
@MrOribear tradition that Christ was crucified the next day, a Friday.
demonic possession is a superstition aswell
1984LizardKing 4 months ago
@MrOribear What bold statement? If you ever went to school, you probably know history? How the robbed Arab lands in the crusades, what they did to the Baltic tribes, what Christians did to American Indians and so on, not even mentioning such things as witch hunt or inquisition. Scripture? I do not give a damn shit to your piece of paper where you wrote all your fairy tales for idiots. I am talking about the REAL DEEDS and BLOODIEST CRIMES Christianity did to the humankind.
worras2007 4 months ago
@worras2007 Yeah i went to school,infact i can almost guarentee my education is alot more than urs.Do you honestly think that these christians who murdered other faiths and cultures were really representing our creator?Just coz people claim to be christians doesnt make it so,and thats the case in ur examples of christians.They were just people who thought they were doings gods work because their leaders told them they were.
MrOribear 4 months ago
@worras2007 I take it you have studied the scriptures and know all about them for you to have made the decision that they are shit and full of fairy tales.If you havent you have made a decision on lack of information and makes you a dumbass like the millions of others who have done the same.You arent talking about the DEEDS and BLOODIEST crimes of TRUE christianity,ur taking about what scriptures state is false religion.Big difference!!
MrOribear 4 months ago
@MrOribear Yes, I studied. I studied Egyptology, I studied the Bible, I studies Hebrew (and read the first two books of Torah analysing each line and word grammatically), I studied history, as well as history of the Roman Catholic Church (my major interest was the Medieval ages). I was a Christian before and I formally refused Christianity. And my decisions are based on my MANY YEAR studies, the bloody deeds of the Christian church, and my personal experiences and education. So???
worras2007 4 months ago
@worras2007 Well good for you.So you claim you were a christian but you have very little knowledge of what Jesus wants from you.If you were a christian you would be familiar with his words of "have no part of the world" What did he mean by this? You being an ex christian should be able to answer it.As a former christian you should be familiar with Jesus warning that many people will claim to act on his behalf but are do not.True christians do not kill in the name of god!!
MrOribear 4 months ago
Also - did you ever know that the Constitution of Stalin was, as put on paper, was the most democratic Constitution in the world that ever existed. This was on paper. In reality it was a tool to slaughter and put to jail MANY millions of people. So, even a murder or serial killer can tell how nice person he is with a smile on his face. And can tell many fairytale about how good he is. But it will not help the killer to wash the blood on his hands. Criminals will always find reasons to justify
worras2007 4 months ago
@worras2007 What the hell has Stalin got to do with our conversation? Stalins political views have absolutely nothing to do with christianity, they dont even have anything to do with being a false christ. I can not for the life of me figure out why you would tell me this.My only thought is you are trying to somehow impress me with ur knowledge.Im not impressed coz i have decades of learning!!
MrOribear 4 months ago
@MrOribear With Stalin I meant a comparison - his most democratic constitution "on paper", and his bloody deeds. Same (and even worse) it is with Christianity - what Christianity "has on paper" and what it declares, has NOTHING to do what it ACTUALLY is in real life. I am not trying to impress nor convince you of anything. I am just telling my opinion that Christianity in theory is a true SATANISM in real life. And what are you trying to convince me? To convert back into your Satanism? NO WAY.
worras2007 4 months ago
@worras2007 Yep and thats all is it,ur opinion.Ur opinion is not based on all the information.You do not know the scriptures.You hear of wrongs done in the name of christianity and assume thats what true christians do.A true worshipper of our creator listens to the voice and obeys him.No true christian will commit crimes in the name of god.I am not trying to convince you of anything.I am stating fact not opinion.
MrOribear 4 months ago
@MrOribear My opinion is NOT based on information? I provide all proof to my statements. Crimes of Christianity to the human kind? Here you are: inquisition, crusades, witch hunt, killing whole nations and destroying whole cultures (just two examples - Prussians, American native Indians). I can continue for long. And no, those crimes were not made in the name of Satan. Those crimes were made in the NAME OF JESUS CHRIST - a rotten corpse as a true Satanist symbol of Christians.
worras2007 4 months ago
@worras2007 You are such a dumbass,i have already explained to you that these crimes were not committed by true christians.Just coz they killed in the name of Jesus doesnt mean they were acting on his behalf. I also said ur opinion was made with you not having ALL the information!!
MrOribear 4 months ago
@MrOribear So you want to say that there were no crusades, there were no inquisition tortures, there were NO CRIMES Christianity did to the humankind? Or that Christians have nothing to do with those crimes and Christianity? So you deny ALL IT HAPPENED? And blame me for stating these things as facts with inadequate information? And it is really Christian (not even speaking about elementary ethics) to call another person a dumbass when you do not have a single argument for your opinion?
worras2007 4 months ago
@worras2007 Yep and thats all is it,ur opinion.Ur opinion is not based on all the information.You do not know the scriptures.You hear of wrongs done in the name of christianity and assume thats what true christians do.A true worshipper of our creator listens to the voice and obeys him.No true christian will commit crimes in the name of god.I am not trying to convince you of anything.I am stating fact not opinion
MrOribear 4 months ago
I was a Christian for 28 years and dabbled with Paganism-NewAge-Occultism for 5 to 7 years, and have struggled with finding out what the truth is about the original religion. I have come to the conclusion that there was one human religion based on worship of the elemental gods of Earth and that some very dark forces have taken over and CORRUPTED and DIVIDED this into multiple faiths. I even think the pentacle is a deception, among others.
xander7ful 4 months ago
@xander7ful I suggest you to get interested not in that pseudoPaganism, but in real Paganism - for example the Baltic Paganism - a high level and high moral standard belief that existed a thousand years before Christianity even appeared. This is a Proto-Indo-European Religion where you will find your own roots and harmony with nature, with yourself. I am not convincing you about anything (I am not a Christian who needs one more client for the sect), but you will find that interesting for sure.
worras2007 4 months ago
@worras2007 Thank you. I'm convinced that each local ethnic group had their own "Pagan" Earth Religion and it did have a high moral standard & high beliefs, but it was respectful & in tune with nature also. I have some Slavic ancestry. I'm not sure I can find a Slavic pagan group, since I'm in the United States though.
xander7ful 4 months ago
christianity=jumped up paganism
1984LizardKing 4 months ago
@1984LizardKing What do you mean by "jumped up"? Christianity is just poor quality plagiarism of the wisdom of the Ancient Egypt (Judaism or the Old Testament). Later on Jews made a very powerful sect called Christianity for obedience, slavery, robbery, and murder of "the pagans" (anyone who dared to oppose their sect) that turned Vatican into an absolute power at those times. In the last century it lost the power and just became cheap show business.
worras2007 4 months ago
@worras2007 what i mean by jumped up is christians pretty much stole the pagans religion through death and forceful conversion then used it as a basis for their own,the unoriginal cunts that they are.and the jews aswell.christianity is a fucking fraud is what im trying to say :)
1984LizardKing 4 months ago
@1984LizardKing - Courteously said, dear one. xD
YourDarkAccomplice 4 months ago
@1984LizardKing yep and ur saying it like an uneducated person would!!
MrOribear 4 months ago
@MrOribear and christians converted pagans how,over a friendly game of chess?
1984LizardKing 4 months ago
@1984LizardKing True worshippers of our creator convertered people by reasoning with them using the scriptures. True christianity never stole any beliefs from pagan beliefs.
MrOribear 4 months ago
@MrOribear course it did.thats where the days of the week come from.same with the winter solstice celebration(christmas)
1984LizardKing 4 months ago
@1984LizardKing The days of the week have nothing to do with christianity stealing from pagan beliefs. True christians do not celebrate xmas or other pagan festive holidays!! So what have they stolen?
MrOribear 4 months ago
@MrOribear crosses,fish symbol,candles,wreaths,crown of thorns,church buildings,processions,clerical vestments,monks tonsure,vow of silence,the bible,hymms and carols,prayer,amen,holyness,forgiveness,healing,blessing,glory,days months,seasons,st valentines day,holy days,easter,christmas,sunday,wedding day,wedding rings,wedding veil,good luck,biorhythims,astrology,superstition.
just some pagan concepts and traditions robbed by christianity and interwoven with their cults story.
1984LizardKing 4 months ago
@1984LizardKing I would like to say I understood what you are on about but i cant. You have rattled on with a whole lot of stuff but havent managed to say anything. I have asked you what christianity have stolen from pagan beliefs.The stuff you mentioned isnt celebrated(expect weddings) by true worshippers of our creator.They are simply traditions of men,which the scriptures warn us about.You mentioned days and months, how have they been stolen from paganism by christianity?
MrOribear 4 months ago
@MrOribear many of today's customs came into christianity through constantine who, in 325 ad,, began the process of converting the official pagan religion of the roman empire to christianity.
note the word 'converting'. as any organizer of a new venture knows, it's a lot easier, quicker and cheaper to change the sign on the door than to change the whole building.christianity was modelled on many customs that were familiar and acceptable to jews and agans at that time, when religion
1984LizardKing 4 months ago
@MrOribear many of today's customs came into christianity through constantine who, in 325 AD, began the process of converting the official pagan religion of the roman empire to christianity.
note the word 'converting'.as any organizer of a new venture knows, it's a lot easier, quicker and cheaper to change the sign on the door than to change the whole building. christianity was modelled on many customs that were familiar and acceptable to jews and pagans at that time, when religion
1984LizardKing 4 months ago
@1984LizardKing I am familiar with the council of Nicea.I am also fully aware of how pagan beliefs became intertwined into mainstream christianity but that doesnt mean these are acceptable to our creator. If he wanted us to celebrate say Valentines day he would have mentioned it somewhere in scripture.There is no superstition in true worship!!
MrOribear 4 months ago
@MrOribear come on,your whole religion is superstition. "if im good,i might live forever,if im bad,i get punished forever"
1984LizardKing 4 months ago
@1984LizardKing my religion isnt full of superstition at all. Infact I can honestly say theres no superstition at all. My faith doesnt support the idea of eternal punishment and neither do the scriptures. Scripture say the wages for sin is death,not the wages for sin is getting punished forever!!
MrOribear 4 months ago
@MrOribear superstition is defined as any belief or attitude that is inconsistent with the known laws of science or with what is generally considered in the particular society as true and rational; especially, such a belief in charms, omens, the supernatural, etc." it is also "any action or practice based on such a belief or attitude (webster's new world dictionary of the american language).
1984LizardKing 4 months ago
@1984LizardKing Like i said my faith doesnt teach superstitious stuff,it doesnt teach me to say bless you when someone sneezes. Just coz science cant explain demons doesnt make them untrue, there are many things science is unable to explain,friday13 and bar codes,well both are just superstitious rubbish and/or conspiracy theories as you have said.They arent from our creator,he doesnt tell me to fear a black cat while walking under a ladder,so why would i acknowledge them as being truth?
MrOribear 4 months ago
@1984LizardKing People tend to put alot of faith into science to come up with the explanations to the unknowns of life.Its a known fact that the more science learns about the universe and everything in it,the more they realize how very little we know.If science claims there is no god then they have based their decision with the very little information they have.Not exactly trustworthy now is it?
MrOribear 4 months ago
@MrOribear science is trustowrthy or you wouldnt be typing in your keyboard would you? cience is demonstrable.religion is not. no doubt you will dismiss this truth as another of my arrogances, but it is a very important point. and whilst you disagree with science,guess what? its done alot more for the world than anything that any religious leader has so far managed to reason.science's capacity to prove is so much greater than your god, who proves nothing and provides no insight into anything
1984LizardKing 4 months ago
@1984LizardKing I dont recall me saying I disagreed with science.I did say that the information science bases their decisions on is very limited.As far as our creator not providing any insight into anything is absolutely nonsense.What do you think the scriptures are for?Finally as for ur no doubt i will dismiss this truth as ur arrogancy, seems to me ur calling urself arrogant not me.I see it as you also making decisions without having all the info.
MrOribear 4 months ago
@MrOribear every christian falls to this superstition.when i sneeze, your most likely response will be to immediately say "bless you",or something to that extent.maybe we don't even realize that is a superstition,but it is.why ask god's blessing on someone who sneezes?the ancient belief was that a person's spirit or soul was found in the breath or in the air in his head.when someone sneezed, there was the danger that the spirit would be expelled unless god's blessing was called.
1984LizardKing 4 months ago
@1984LizardKing Bless you when sneezing has in origin in superstition like you have said but nowadays that original meaning has been lost.People no longer fear their soles leaving their body.So when a sneeze occurs im fairly confident that people arent praying to god begging so there soul doesnt fall out,to say bless you is now meaningless.To prove my point go ask someone who isnt familiar with the history of sneezes and bless you's and ask them why say it. Guozentight(spelling?) was our word.
MrOribear 4 months ago
@MrOribear and belief were intertwined with superstition.this contrasts with today's norm - at least in economically advanced countries, with greater access to education and science, people base their religious belief on reasoning rather than superstition.
1984LizardKing 4 months ago
@MrOribear They have stolen lives. Yo can read about the fate of a Baltic nation called Prussians. They all were killed by Christians. The whole nation was swept off the surface of the map "in the name of Jesus Christ".
worras2007 4 months ago
@worras2007 stolen lives, the prussians were not killed by true christians,though they may have claimed to have been christians. Jesus said you would know his people by their actions.A true worshipper of our creator doesnt kill in his name.Jesus also said "have no part of the world" In other words dont get involved with the world politics.Anyone can claim to worship our creator but that doesnt mean our creator excepts their worship!!
MrOribear 4 months ago
@1984LizardKing If you were a little bit more than just an illiterate idiot, it would make sense to discuss with you and tell the facts (like facts about Christian churches built on ruins of sacred Pagan places). But as long as you are a f-ken Christian (a dumb zombie of a sect), seems that explaining this to you would be a waste of time.
worras2007 4 months ago
@worras2007 i am a christian? funny how i've been an atheist my whole life,but yeagh,im christian,thanks for that.you are a bright person.really literate,you can read and understand simple paragraphs perfectly.
1984LizardKing 4 months ago
@1984LizardKing Well said :) Christians came to kill, rob, and destroy NOT in the name of Satan, but in the name of JESUS CHRIST. Christianity is the biggest crime in the history of humankind. Such a pseudoreligion based on plagiates with blood on their hands and its self-righteous "representatives" do not even have the moral right to tell anything about other beliefs. But they, being the servants of Satan, tell that Paganism worships evil even having a ZERO understanding what it is at all.
worras2007 4 months ago
@worras2007 yep,true.its a virus and definetley will be remembered as the worst organisation of all time.i stay in a place riddled with catholic/protestant sectarianism........even though the idea of god existing goes out the window around the age of 9 yet sectarianism is fine,try get your head around that one :)being a christian is like being in a gang,its just an excuse to hate.the immunity they get is fucking stupid aswell.oh well,im away to watch "kids who preach" on nat geo.sick fucks lol
1984LizardKing 4 months ago
@1984LizardKing Well said :) Christians came to kill, rob, and destroy NOT in the name of Satan, but in the name of JESUS CHRIST. Christianity is the biggest crime in the history of humankind. Such a pseudoreligion based on plagiates with blood on their hands and its self-righteous "representatives" do not even have the moral right to tell anything about other beliefs. But they, being the servants of Satan, tell that Paganism worships evil even having a ZERO understanding what it is at all.
worras2007 4 months ago
This was very well done, though it could have done with a narrator.
skywize 4 months ago
why is your project so biased
vXDREWXv 4 months ago
@vXDREWXv It could have shown a bit more of what Christianity was all about, but as for being biased, I think it was pretty fair. Remember, there are good and bad things about Christianity, but at it's core, it is a religion magpied from many others. In other words, he may know more about Paganism than Christianity simply because there isn't much about Christianity that did not originally come from Paganism.
skywize 4 months ago
religious debates on a video.. Really? They make forums for that. Please, do get the point to NOT argue. We Pagans don't post this crap on your videos so how about you and your "Good People" take a hike. K thanks bye.
vampgurl33 5 months ago
@Godzfriend1 YOUR God was built on, and came after, ours - Psalms don't apply to us. Christians have purposely created a God, and a path to God, in direct opposition to what was popular at the time (Paganism), and actively punished and killed dissidents. Do you consent to modern changes to Christianity? Do you believe you should follow the modern versions of Christianity, or do you see them as a perversion? That's how Pagans feel about Christianity.
xxMISSxxPRISSxx 5 months ago
@Godzfriend1 We as Pagans believe that divinity is not an exclusive, seperate concept. We see divinity and the energy of creation in all of The One's creations in this universe; the creator AND the vase, if you will. Because of this, we revere the creator and all its creations in a respectful and loving way, and believe we are living amongst the divine, everyday.
xxMISSxxPRISSxx 5 months ago
Christianity is the REAL SATANISM - hypocrisy, unconditional self-righteousness, a non-questionable belief that others are inferior and "not right" (actually bad - evil worshipers), greed (just see how much riches, property and gold the Christian Church has when people in the world starve), only Christianity could invent such a horror like inquisitions, etc. This is the REAL EVIL.
worras2007 5 months ago 6
@worras2007 They don't exactly worship a devil, though they are one of the few religions with a truly evil entity. What they do worship, however is one of the war gods (I do not recall which one).
skywize 4 months ago
@skywize Well, the CHRISTIAN Trinity comes from PAGANISM. Because Pagans had all three "major gods" - the god of the heaven, the god of the earth, and the god of the dead (the "underworld") + the superior god/power (the god who created the universe). All this stems from many ages down to Greek and Roman mythology. And this has nothing to do with worship of evil powers. This is a pure invention of Christianity that told that all what is not Christian, is evil and bad.
worras2007 4 months ago
@worras2007 Well said. I agree.
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mellymel51029 4 months ago
@worras2007 Only Christianity could invent such a horror like inquisitions?? lol..Christianity is based on Belief in CHRIST. and if you claim to be a follower of Christ then you know he preached Peace, Loving thy Neighbor, No Violence and so on. Those "Christian Crusaders" etc were clearly not followers of Christ. Its called the sin of MAN. & U CONVENIENTLY leave out Stalin & others like him, who killed thousands of religious people in the name of Atheism..smh..ATHEISM IS THE REAL SATANISM
mellymel51029 4 months ago
@mellymel51029 I'm a Pagan, not an Atheist, but I'm pretty sure that you are using the same argument that worras2007 did, and that is lumping all people of a particular group together. Atheism is Satanism? Not really. You'd have to believe in Satan in the first place. Also, plenty of Atheists fought against Stalin. Try not to mix religion and power. Those with power use religion (or the lack of) for their own gain.
CrazyMastodon 4 months ago
@CrazyMastodon Im not the one mixing religion & power, he is. FYI Satanists dont necessarily worship Satan per say. They reject GOD,They believe in enjoying the pleasures of the flesh, in not having a guilty conscience about anything, & theres no such thing as sin. Only man's true desire/ Carnal Nature. Which are all the things Satan represented. Atheists fall into this category as well, because you cant be an Atheist and believe in objective Morality either. Total Contradiction.
mellymel51029 4 months ago
@mellymel51029 Well, that was a very biased generalization of an entire system of seeing the world, and ignorant on some points. Objective morality can exist without theism, Atheists will argue that one. Satanists do worship Satan.The Christian viewpoint is that if you don't worship Christ/God, then you are being fooled by Satan and are following his ways. Again, this is ignorant and would lump 2/3 of the world into this. You might want to open your mind a little before you chastise others.
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mellymel51029 3 months ago
@CrazyMastodon U think you're so smart don't you lol..I can say the same about u atheists, pagan or whatever you consider yourself. Open YOUR mind a little before you chastise others. & Being "Fooled by something" does not mean the same thing as Knowingly Worshipping. Athiest contradict their argument of Objective Morality. We're only matter & energy. Then how are we independent of our Genes??. How can you say something is Bad or Good if you're just dancing to your DNA. Huh???
mellymel51029 3 months ago
@mellymel51029 May I ask you? How do you judge about people? You judge from what they tell/declare, or you judge from what they do in real life? I personally judge from the DEEDS and I do not care what is declared. And would you trust a company or bank that cheated many people but on their website they tell how reliable and good they are? OK, Christ taught love, peace, etc. and you are his follower. But why then you hate people so much and do not show (but only declare) that in real life?
worras2007 4 months ago
@worras2007 Lol thats what Im saying, You judge from the deeds, not what Religion is declared in the name of that deed. Many Ex- Marines commit murder every year and are sent to jail. You dont hear people blaming the Marines for those DEEDS. They blame the man. Yet the Marines teaches people how to kill. Christianity doesn't. And Christianity doesn't hate anyone. where are you getting your info from?? lol
mellymel51029 4 months ago
@mellymel51029 So logically, you want me to believe in the fairy tales of Christians who bathed in blood of innocent people. You know, I do not care what Christianity teaches. I care what it does and what it did. Sorry, but I do not want to believe in the fairy tales told by a sect of murderers, dissemblers, and robbers. I do not care how they call themselves and what they say. I believe in other things. Things related to morality, decency, and people who follow this in their real life.
worras2007 3 months ago
@mellymel51029 HAHAHAHAHAHA! That's a good one! Sorry dude, but if someone commits murder (even if it IS an ex-Marine) no one's blaming the victim. And FYI, Marines are SOLDIERS. They're trained to kill because that's their purpose.
You're totally right about Christianity not teaching to kill, though. All those passages about stoning non-believers to death, banishing people into the harsh deserts and burning people alive aren't TEACHING how to kill, they're just commanding you to.
CarFox6 3 months ago
@CarFox6 No you idiot, Being "Christian" means a believer & follower of Christ. Where in all of Christ teachings do you see him "commanding anyone to kill"?...You talk about Stoning Non Believers, In the New Testament, when they were about to stone a woman for committing adultery, what did Jesus say?.."He who hath not sin, cast the first stone"..and of course they were all sinners & did not throw the stone. So as I said, if a so called "Christian" commits murder, you blame the man, not Christ.
mellymel51029 3 months ago
@mellymel51029 Ahem, "Any Israelite or any alien living in Israel who gives any of his children to Molech must be PUT TO DEATH. The people of the community are to STONE HIM. If anyone curses his mother or father, he must be PUT TO DEATH. If a man commits adultery with another man's wife--with the wife of his neighbor--both the adulterer and the adulteress must be PUT DO DEATH. If a man marries both a woman and her mother, it is wicked. Both he and they must be BURNED IN THE FIRE." Need I go on?
CarFox6 3 months ago
@CarFox6 LOL Jesus never spoke those words. Quote me anything in the New Testament, which is all about Jesus, where he commands ANYONE to kill..I think you're quoting from the Old Testament. and you have to remember, that is how people thought in those days. People were stoned by PEOPLE, Homosexuality was considered an Abomination, and if you cursed your mother/father they believed you should be put to death. Its still like that today in some Countries. Jesus taught Forgiveness, not Condemnation
mellymel51029 3 months ago
@mellymel51029 It is because they are leaving The Paul's teaching, Christianity. And return to the original Jesus teaching to love everyone, to obey the God's command, to fear the Only True God, the creator himself. And the old testament are the important parts of Christianity, without it Paul doesn't have any power to claim Jesus as God to the Jews and early Jesus follower. Homosexual are Big Sins, remember what happen to Soddom and Gomorah? you should stop that desease to grow in your society.
DannyAbdillah 3 months ago
@mellymel51029 So you believe in what Jesus said, but not what God said? The entire book of Revelations is completely meaningless to you? And if Jesus didn't teach condemnation, why do Christians tell me that I'm going to hell for not worshiping their God and their ripoff of Horus?
CarFox6 3 months ago
@CarFox6 If Christians tell you that you're going to hell, then they are in violation of what is taught in the New Testament..LUKE 6:37" Do not judge, and you will not be judged. Do not condemn, and you will not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven.." MATTHEW 7: 1 “Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2 For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you."..According to Scripture..GOD is the only Judge..
mellymel51029 2 months ago
@Godzfriend1 that is bullshit. The real Pagans believe that the universe and all what exists was created by the "god of genesis" - the SUPREME INTELLECT and all the rest was evolution "supervised" by that intellect.
worras2007 5 months ago
@worras2007 You can't speak of Pagans as a whole like that sine it's not an organized religion. And no Pagan I've ever know has ever believed in that theory. Most Pagans believe in the Horned God and the Goddess because of the duality of nature, and every Pagan I know believes in the big bang, not that the God and Goddess (or the gods and goddesses, if they're truly polytheistic) created the world.
CarFox6 3 months ago
@CarFox6 Well, all what you just said here is the very best proof that people know very little about Paganism. To be more exact - they do not know anything about it. Zero knowledge. OK, there are many varieties of Paganism, but if we speak about Baltic (neo-)Paganism, I can bet you hear such words as "Romuva", "krivis", "alkas" and so on. Please read at least something by Marija Gimbutas (Gimbutiene) - there are books in English too. Then we could talk.
worras2007 2 months ago
It is really frustrating and at the same time funny to see how the self-righteous Christians accuse everyone who is not a Christian to be Satan worshiper, witch. Why do you Christians believe that everyone who is not with you is against us? Btw, let's recall history. What was the name of the god in whose name people were turtured and killed, rivers of blood were shed, whole nations and civilizations destroyed? Was the name Satan? No. That god was Jesus Christ.
worras2007 5 months ago
As a Pagan, I believe that Judeo-Christian religions and their bastard Islamic cousins are pure evil, to put it bluntly.
I am a servant of Pluto, Patron God of Death, The Underworld, Damnation, and Fortunes.
My enemies are the Christian tyrants and their equally wicked Muslim cousins.
Pagan Rome was one of the greatest civilizations in Human History, until Constantine, a half-Celtic bastard usurped the Imperial Roman Throne and instituted a false and evil religion.
PaulieRomanov 6 months ago
@PaulieRomanov Can anyone say "hypocrisy?"
CarFox6 3 months ago
@Godzfriend1 your god is a jealous god your god must be a woman and you do know there was many gods before your god. and how do you know created any thing because a book you read it's 2011 you got to be smarter then that. love and live life it may be the only one we get
kdr991 6 months ago
I love this best explanation so far ty BB )o(
evagalarza 8 months ago
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GahdeMalprigi1488x 8 months ago
Judge not less you be judged.. You Christians really need to do some more reading in your buy-BULL +shit get it ;) lumablueeeyes you may not be a Wiccan or pagan but you hold my respect )o(
mikey45601 8 months ago
Just because we have different beliefs then you Christans do. That doesn't give you the right to accuse us of doing evil deeds. I have nothing against Christans. But some of you who claim to be Christian and judge people or shun them out because they have different beliefs or because their gay. Doesn't give you the right to judge of who they are or where they come. Start on your own back door before you do others.
Lunablueeyes 8 months ago 3
For those of you who think we worship the devil and evil spirits. Your wrong. Im not a Pagan. But I am a witch. And different Pagans, Witches, Wiccans, all have different beliefs. But I am a Nature Witch. I believe in the One God and One Goddess. And if you think we're evil and heartless or if you have something to say then just say it. Also by you people calling us devil worshippers get your facts striaght first and your research done before accusing.
Lunablueeyes 8 months ago
Just because you clam that your god created everything does not make it so! It's human nature to worship Beauty. Why worship somthing that's never been seen? Just because the buy-bull says your god is the only true god does not make it so!!! And if your god is a jealous one then I'm glad I'm not a Christian because jealousy is next to despicableness I pity you godzfriend1
mikey45601 8 months ago 2
not just the pentacle. what of the hammer, the axe, and the sword? they were the symbols of the only people who could kick everyones ass, the vikings.
who were pagan,
jasper0192837465 8 months ago
this world would have been a lot better if christianity, judaism and islam had never existed, that much is for sure...
liberator48 8 months ago
@liberator48 well said !!!
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TheNitricOxide 8 months ago
There is no 'verus' is Christianity and Paganism.
Pagans don't believe in wars.
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Basque was spoken in all of Europe as a common language,because almost all the population of Europe had migrated from the Sahara when the formerly productive land became a desert .New cults from Anatolia, all of them promoted male domination. Priests were sent all over Europe with orders to destroy the ancient religion of the Goddess, create nations,and invent new languages for each new nation.Every language had to be based on the basque language because there was no other from which to work
TheBasqueLand 9 months ago
So, @kewleodobop says everyone was Jewish? I have only one thing to say.
PROVE IT.
Catalinalyra 9 months ago
how could any on really research the roots and teachings of paganism and say it is wrong or evil when it teaches equality, respecting our world and nature and animals, and loving one another? You don't have to believe in the multiple Gods. Yet more people choose to believe in a religion that damns many to a terrible place they call hell, teaches discrimination, encourages stoning, and represents a God who is angry, murderous and torturous? Want to talk about a backwards world...wow...
dancesonpoles 9 months ago 23
@dancesonpoles The KEY thing in Pagan religion is HARMONY, PEACE, and RESPECT. Harmony with oneself, harmony with the nature, and respect to all live beings, harmony of ALL this entity of this with the Universe. Paganism is JUST THE OPPOSITE of the "acts" of Christianity, which covered its bloody hands, and came to rob, and slaughter "in the name of the ONLY RIGHTEOUS GOD". Christianity and its deeds is the shame of the humanity.
worras2007 7 months ago
@worras2007 Agreed
dancesonpoles 7 months ago
@worras2007 well spoken
mRjAcKmAn95 6 months ago
@dancesonpoles - "If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is!" That's pretty much the pessimistic society we live in. "Hope? Love? Salvation?" That must all come at a SACRIFICE. You see, sacrifice is like a game, where you win many coins and the more you suffer the more coins you get! The more coins you get the more credit you will have in "Heaven" ! Yay! lol I hope I'm not coming off as rude, this is seriously how people see the world. They become addicted to being a victim.
YourDarkAccomplice 4 months ago
We all know the main reason paganism is taboo: It was matriarchal. And with the way society is right now, it's never going to get accepted.
aqualovr9 9 months ago
@aqualovr9 No, not ONLY matriarchal. It is a very old believ (many times older and richer than Christianity). And Matriarchal and Patriarchal motives changed during history. Take the Scandinavian god of thunder Thor - it is not a woman :) Or its Baltic pagan equivalent Perkunas. Well, in some sense you are right - Paganism was matriarchal in its early stages. Yes, society is too much pumped up with the Christian self-righteous shit, propaganda of slavery and obedience.
worras2007 6 months ago
@worras2007
Well of course but in the beggining it was, which is why they say it's full of witches.
aqualovr9 6 months ago
@aqualovr9 Witches? Wtf? Those people were just wise, and best educated, and spiritual leaders at those times and were most serious "competitors" for the Christian business. So, they had to eliminate their "competitors" using all possible measures - from accusing them of the dirtiest things, to burning them alive.
Man, I REALLY HATE SO MUCH that fucken Christian approach "Who is not with us, is AGAINST US"...I was not WITH Christians ealier, I just did not give a fuck, but now I am AGAINST them
worras2007 6 months ago
@worras2007
Yeah christianiy has some jacked up ideas. That's why it made the Jews the people who killed christ. Their main motive is to make other religions look bad so that no one converts.
aqualovr9 6 months ago
Judiasm came before any of this bullshit religions
Everybody was jewish
Then jesus CHRIST came along and died for YOUR sins then 3 days after his death he rose again
People then converted to CHRISTANITY folliwing Jesus CHRIST
You just dont get it
Fucking losers
kewleodobop 9 months ago
@kewleodobop and a shit load of other religions came before Judiasm and many of Judiasm stories are made up from previous stories of much older religions
dancesonpoles 9 months ago
@kewleodobop
For a start Jesus wasn't Jewish and Pagan religions have been around WAAAAY longer that the racist and oppressive Jewish religion.
theshow2k8 8 months ago
@kewleodobop Exuse me all are free to choose there on path if u are Juish then thats ur path but to otherpeople they may believe diffrent things so im Pagan but i never say anything bad about other religions just some things some people dont believe in and you should not try to even say anything bad about other religions since they beleive in other things that they may not i respect other peoples choices in there path of religion but u should not sware and say judism is the one and tru path.
TheZoe236 8 months ago
@kewleodobop Actually Judaism did not come first. It was, however the first recorded monotheistic religion (meaning the worship of a single god). Judaism actually was born of polytheism (belief in many gods). You should see the video; "3.3.3 Atheism - A History of God part 1", or look up the words 'polytheism' and 'Christianity'.
skywize 4 months ago
To make matters worse, we celebrate these Pagan holidays with more made up bullshit. We have Christmas with Santa Claus who delivers all the presents in one night via flying deer. We have Easter with a bunny that lays eggs. I mean come on. When does the madness stop? Our whole society is based on lies and deceipt. Love yourself and be good to your neighbors. We are our own god and it`s up to us to choose which path we take in life. No religion necessary.
alexjones4president 9 months ago
100 people are christians
GothicWiccan61 9 months ago
paganism was made into christianity and tried to contradict The real God Paganism is christianity. Paganism is wrong and christianity is wrong in my case don't be born into the worlds customs question it first and create the right thing. Secret societies have betrayed us. I have signs from God himself. They are both wrong.
skatersteve20 9 months ago
paganism wins. christianity is a crock of shit!
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chocolatediet11 9 months ago
i love the pink floyd's music
davlor86 9 months ago
its only a matter of time before Christianity is laughed at. Paganism will be looked at positively, but we will be embarrasses of all 3 of the desert cults.
TheDavid2222 9 months ago
Very interesting video.Well done!
wessexheathen 9 months ago
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goatee98 9 months ago
and nor does the bible really condemn anyone.. it is clear that those who accepts the true hero and he who sacrifised himself to save the world, will deserve to claim a special reward from god which is meant to be a reward, of rewards every day. a life here on earth, pure, with no worries and the presence of jesus at all time. the things mentioned about diseases, sickness, and all that god put upon humans were in the old testament, but no longer. you got the will to choose, now choose..
Taygon094 9 months ago
@Taygon094 riiiiight....
dancesonpoles 9 months ago
@dancesonpoles thats right ( :
Taygon094 9 months ago
@Taygon094 okay
dancesonpoles 9 months ago
Well i rather choose to believe in a whole new world called heaven or new jerusalem, all new and not imaginable for us. it makes me excited, and when at every moment when i try to imagine heaven, i realise that i just cant see it in my human head, we, creatures who are so clever and smart. it just makes me excited.. i dont want to enter a world based all on nature and continue living like we do now.. waring, hating, aids and a confused bunch of different gods/godesses. agh no.. i need only one
Taygon094 9 months ago
i lovvvvvvvvvvvve horus and our lady isis,
starfyre05 9 months ago 8
Excellent choice of song;
PrinceDelee 9 months ago
pink floyd time, amazing song.
mahender6969 9 months ago
2:07 Can anyone tell me what the letters A, I, U, E and O at the points of the star stand for? Are they used because they´re vocals? What meaning would this have?
eretrece 10 months ago
This is all true. As a Pagan myself, I say that you got everything right. I only worship the full moon, new moon, blue moon, and black moon, not all of the phases though. BTW, I'm probably the only Pagan who will willingly say that they openly hate Catholiscism/Christianity(more of a strong dislike for the Protestants. They didn't do quite as much attempted genocide.)
Darkfeather21 10 months ago
Why do Christians always have to go proselytizing Pagans? We have heard your word, decided not to go with, and have gone on our own path. Why insist on trying to convert the heathens? Do you really think that your telling us what sinners we are and how we must repent or go to hell will change our minds?
Pagans don't go trying to tell you all of the wrongs in your religion. Why can't we all just agree to disagree and be kind to each others choices?
firegirlemtcop 10 months ago
I am surprised this presentation was allowed in a southern school. Nature religions may recommend a path, taoism has a written instrument. Nature religions advise rather than command enforced by threats of a vengeful deity.
movmystonehenge 10 months ago
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movmystonehenge 10 months ago
Oh and we all see the divine in different ways. What is so hard to accept with that? I am Pagan my best friend is an Atheist my Parents are Christian I know a guy who is a Satanist (and he is really chill). May the divine be with you in whatever form it comes in.
TheRedWolf080 10 months ago 2
We must forgot that both Pagans and Christians have blood on their hands. Both forced conversion by the sword. Paganism has been around for much longer then Christianity and much of Paganism falls into pre history. How can we say that Pagans did not fight over their Gods over the other Gods? We do no know and I am sure they did. Accept that both sides have wronged and forgive and forget. May we work together for a better future. -Fellow Pagan
TheRedWolf080 10 months ago
I am a Christian, i dont celebrate Christmas , Easter ,birthdays, halloween ,new years ,april fools etc , basically any tradition founded by men. Jesus never said to remember the day of his birth only the love of Gods message to us. Christmas and Easter are celebrated on the DATES of pagans festivals , not actual pagan celebrations.Peace of the LORD be with you all !
LoveGodLoveNeighbor1 10 months ago
@LoveGodLoveNeighbor1 So from that I gather you don't believe that Christianity was founded by men or based on Paganism?
Michimera 9 months ago
@Michimera No Christ is the chief cornerstone of the church, he founded the spiritual church where as Christians ,we are one body .Christianity is not based on paganism , the relationship with God aspect is not based on paganism AT ALL it is merely the celebrations which Christ never told us to celebrate that are pagan .As I said I don't celebrate them.Do you think the apostle Paul celebrated them?Christianity is a relationship with God through Jesus Christ.Peace of the LORD be with you, Amen
LoveGodLoveNeighbor1 9 months ago
@Michimera Its quite annoying how ignorant people are about Christianity, the least you could do is learn what Christianity means besides your idea of how we just go to church every Sunday and do what the physical church tells us, no we don't ,we adhere to God's word, we are in the spiritual church that is in Christ Jesus.I don't believe pagans worship the devil and Jesus doesn't neither.You just have the wrong idea about God. Peace of the LORD be with you ,Amen
LoveGodLoveNeighbor1 9 months ago
@LoveGodLoveNeighbor1 Actually, I do know what it is to be Christian. The definition of Christianity wasn't my point. The point was the origin of the religion.
Michimera 9 months ago
@Michimera Yes , as I have said , Christ is the chief cornerstone .Don't confuse your idea of Christianity with mine.Christianity began with faith in Christ .Christianity is a relationship with God through Christ Jesus.It is not the Roman Catholic Church founded by Constantine. But that doesn't mean to say the bible isn't the divinely inspired word of God, it was only compiled by Constantine.The text itself is the holy message of Gods love for us.If you accept Christ you are in HIS church.
LoveGodLoveNeighbor1 9 months ago
@LoveGodLoveNeighbor1 Again, my definition of Christianity is the same as yours. Anyway, mind if I ask what personally leads you to believe that the Bible IS 'the divinely inspired word of God'? I'll just put out there that I don't mean to cause offence or start a mindless argument.
Michimera 9 months ago