Ok Ladies and gentlemen, on this matter of Raitt being a Tenor or a Baritone. I just watched an interview with Raitt where he called himself a "high Lyric Baritone" which is an operatic term. I've heard Baritones hit high B Sherrill Milnes (on his recording of Verdi's Rigoletto). Point is you can be a baritone with high notes. Hell, that's what a baritone is! It's the middle ground between Tenor and Bass and anything is admissible! So Raitt was a Baritone!
The fantastic thing about this performance is that it's not legit opera. He finds a way to create a mixed tone, especially at the end that's gorgeous, real and accessible without it sounding like typical musical theatre or opera. It's something in between and it's fantastic.
man, when I was watching this I was all like "this is really nice. He's a good singer. Great voice, better than that other version I saw-OH MY GOODNESS THAT LAST NOTE!"
I'd never heard it done that way before. I love this performance :)
Ahhhh old Broadway voices. I miss them. The Old B-way voices were actually trained, unlike todays broadway singers. These singers just didn't have the volume and girth for Opera but still trained and you can hear it (like the great Gordon Macrae). Now we have crapola on the majority of Broadway stages. Just listen to the placement of the high G on "take it," at the end. That is the most impressive. The Bb is ok, but the placement of that G on that vowel...WOW
My father died a week ago Sunday. He was a fan of John Raitt and when I was a child he used to sing the second half of this song about having a daughter to me.. I can hear him singing along with a pretty good voice. Just hearing this song brings back such wonderful memories of how much he loved me, I will come back and listen to it oftern.
I love the fact that these clips have survived and we are able to see these legends in their prime and to refer to their performances as inspirations for the upcoming stage stars who will take up their mantles and perpetuate the rich legacy of American Theater.
john was a true broadway baritone, or as some might call him a bari-tenor. and i mean that with all respect. he was not an opera singer but a real legitimate broadway voice with power and emotion and all that is needed to sing this kind of rep. this is a gone era unfortunately. you can hand out all the mics you want but they just make the sound louder not good. him, mcrea and goulet were in a class of their own and set high mark. saw them all in person and miss this kind of artist today
I am so thrilled to find this posted. It has been my favorite song from "Carousel" since I was a young girl. My Dad (as Chief Sound Technician for CBS at the time), worked with John Raitt in live radio and TV. He thought much of him as a singer with a magnificent voice and respected him as a performer and a person of integrity. Thank you so much for this rare video! ~0:-)
Why is everyone trying to pigeonhole singers into specific vocal ranges? Bass, baritone. tenor etc etc,if you like what you hear,who gives a crap?John was a fantastic singer ,coupled with great performance skills.As far as vocal dexterity is concerned the throat and larinx are muscles which after long practise can be made to do exdraodinary things.Richard Tauber would sing in the Bath,in a Restauraunt,having a crap,having a shave. Making love!! Its passion that makes a great singer,
Absolutely the best single performance of this difficult song. Raitt truly was peerless and shows his chops here. At this time he appeared in a Broadway show called "Three Wishes for Jamie." He was a tour de force in that show and that is a must-hear for any of his fans. it's available on cd.
What in hell HAPPENED to our musical theater? Why are singers with thin, nasal instruments like Jackman and Wilson taken seriously in these roles, which clearly call for voices as rich and strong as Raitt's? Or Alfred Drake's? Or Howard Keel's? Or Robert Goulet's? Or Richard Kiley's? Or (jumping ahead two-three decades:)) Brian Stokes Mitchell's?
or Gordon McRae--but I agree withyou 100%--let's get real; Jackman is a handsome charismatic movie star so he is very popular in the role but he cannot hang with the men you mentioned.
@RPenta Didn't mean to imply that Jackman and Wilson are not good PEFORMERS. I like them both. But good heavens, their singing could hardly be compared to MacRae's (thanks for mentioning him; don't know why I forgot to:)), Raitt's, Keel's, etc. Best, Steve
Thank you for your comments; an espec. mentioning the often forgotten Robert Goulet; even the kids on American idol could benefit from watching these videos although I am not sure that American Idol ever had a show dedicated to the American Musical Theater--many of those songs--not just the legendarily challenging Solioquy may be beyond those beginners.
John Raitt sang for my father in 1960 in Seattle at the Green Lake Aqua Theatre. He may have been 55 or 60 then but what a voice and he was the real guy. Sat around my father playing piano at my in laws place on a relaxing day and he sang and sang and sang just for the hell of it. Memories.....No microphones or amplification either.
Hugh Jackman is terrific in the movies. But in this role or as Curly? He can't carry Raitt's or MacRae's jock. In the old days, you reallyhad to be able to sing. They all had some real classical training. Now it's all mikes and tinny, reedy, nasal voices.
Nice to see he includes the "When I have a daughter..." verse. It was cut from the score but Rodgers allowed Raitt to include it on Decca's cast album. Until I saw this video that is the only place I have ever heard the verse.
Not completely off subject , but a bit of trivia: Mr Raitt played opposite to Doris Day in the movie version of the Pajama game as Sid a role he originally played on Broadway and he was also the proud papa of legendary singer and blues rock guitarist Bonnie Raitt and former father-in-law to MIchael O'Keefe (Danny Noonan from Caddyshack amongst other roles)...
Someone else, in our current day, is Anthony Warlow. He can be whatever he wants to be. Depending on the repertoire and song he can change where he turns through his passagio and this absolutely blows me away. He can keep an open throat up to an Ab or maybe an A. I can keep an open throat up to a G. Anthony can also add the weight into the voice and turn through the normal baritone Bb/B - E/F passagio. It blows me away.
If you check out the first section of this number he raises it 1/2 step and then takes the end down to the original key. He handles his passagio like a baritone. Notice where he turns and what he keeps open. That high Bb is glorious and really sounds like a tenor high Bb. Mine and many other baritones have a huskier color up there with not as much spin and brilliance.
I have debated this over the years and have come down on the side of John was both baritone and tenor. Hear me out.
Voice type is NOT about range but voice color and tesitura. John was not an operatic tenor nor an operatic baritone. I don't think he could have had a career doing either. What he WAS was a broadway baritone. His voice lies higher than a traditional baritone by 1/2 or 1 step.
@aedb15t but it is apparent that he uses an operatic technique, which is apparent in the high lying parts in the end. So why shouldn't he have been able to sing opera too?
@aedb15t listen... baritones do not have ringing high b flats.. Most have High A flats.. Those that can sing higher, could have gone either way with their voices.. but chose to train as baritones..
@kgarmaker123 Hi. Thanks for commenting. I can point to many many baritones who have ringing high Bb and some with high C's. A guy from my area has a nice high A in The National Anthem.
As I said, voice type is about color and not range. I have a high Bb and am as baritone as they come. If you analyze where John R works his pasagio lies you can tell that he is most probably a high/lyric baritone.
@aedb15t You know I do not agree. In Broadway, roles are not written for a voice range perse, but in opera they are.. and if you look at those roles, the ones written for tenors, many do not exceed High B flats( does that mean that baritones sing them? NO. they don';t and roles for mezzo's.. seldom have High C's in them, a frequently lie low.. Some Mezzos transition to soprano and they sound just like that.. reaching for high notes that are not comfortable for them..
@aedb15t Well said...some people on youtube don't understand how the voice works...I've been trying to explain what you just wrote to people for years and they dont get it...its nice to know someone knows what they are talking about
I think he sings it the best of everyone on youtube... however, I think he could perhaps it more. Its not he sings it too cleanly, he just lacks emotion at some points.
The man had courage. It was one thing to do this in a theatre. It was another to sing on live television. If you made a mistake millions of people saw it. After singing for over 7 minutes you expected him to sing the final note as the 5th of the scale as written. In this case it would have been a high F. But no; he went for the high Bb and nailed it. Ive seen one or two other performances by Raitt from the same time period and he never fails to make the high note. Godlike!
You know George Abbott (while working with him on Pajama game) Called him the most consistent actor he had ever worked with, so he had a record for being "on" all the time. This man worked!
@kgarmaker123 definitely a baritone, if you analyze his voice an his register changes you can tell they are that of a baritone...just b/c he has a Bb doesnt make him a tenor....i am a very much so a tenor yet have a low G, that doesnt mean i am a baritone though....
I don't know whether he was a tenor or a baritone and I don't even want to post an opinion on the subject. One thing seems indisputable, though: John Raitt was the real deal. (I wonder what he'd think of the current practice of miking the leads and allowing them to sound like American Idol finalists - cf. the current revival of West Side Story and its Tony.)
Sir you could not be more correct! I'm almost sure he would not be pleased with these weak amplified voices of what are 'now' called leading men. As in his day the leading men could break our leading men in half over there KNEES!
Although I do feel there are some exceptions like Brian Stoke Mitchell!
@popertop Well Paulo Szot was an opera singer for years. I wish there were more quality crossover artists like him! He has a great balance between the opera and musical theatre styles
I think Raitt was a tenor, but Billy Bigelow is a baritone role. If that makes any sense. Raitt's other roles (mainly Sid Sorokin in The Pajama Game) are considered tenor roles, and now it's mostly baritones that sing this. Also, an operatic baritone would probably have a B-flat on a good day, but wouldn't go around singing them as often and consistently as Raitt.
Katherine: You're exactly right. Raitt was a tenor and a damned good one. I'm an operatic baritone and can sing a B-flat most any day, as MANY baritones can. What I can't do is sing a B-flat after singing for 6 or 7 minutes up in a high tessitura like this one. MacRae, Drake, Goulet... those guys were definitely baritones. But Raitt was a tenor.
No, he's a high baritone or what they call in the Broadway world baritenor. He trained to be an opera singer. Most tenors couldn't handle the low notes in "If I loved you" and during other parts of ths show. The bottom of his voice is amazingly rich. I have a friend of mine who is a baritone with a Bb.
I knew John Raitt...I worked with John Raitt, and sir...there are no John Raitts. to end the discussion on is he bari or tenor...John himself would tell you that he was a lyric tenor, but the money back then was as a baritone.
You said it! I find it interesting that back awhile, baritones were more famous than tenors/basses. I have a recording of William Warfield singing "Ol' Man RIver" from 1962, and I was shocked to find out he was a "baritone". No "baritone" I know of has a voice that can reach an Ab1 and have a classic basso-profondo sound at the same time!
I would disagree about hitting an Ab....I know bass baritones that have a solid Ab...it's the timber and ease that John Raitt hit it that made him a lyric tenor
You know how people say that if a woman plays Mama Rose, then they have hit the height of their career, the same is with guys and if they can belt out "Soliloquy" like John Raitt, they have hit the highlight of their career. It's a role I am dying to play!
Baritone, tenor - who cares? The point is John Raitt had Big lungs and Bigger balls - and wasn't afraid to use 'em - and knew EXACTLY what he was doing.. Absolutely Masterful! God Bless him!
Damn. To think we had talent like this and nowadays people are impressed with Adam Lambert. Those musical theatre types should really do their homework.
John Raitt is a Baritone, he may have the range of a tenor, although true baritone's should have up to a Bflat....anyways, whether or not he could sing a high C, his timbre is that of a Baritone, EX: covering his sound starting at an Eflat
This totally blew me away. He has one of the greatest tenor voices I've ever heard! If he were around today, he'd be a star at the MET, let alone the musical theatre stage. He doesn't have to "do" much: he just IS Billy Bigelow in his attitude and makes his effects with his pronunciation. A lesson in acting and singing to every student of musical theatre - or opera! Thank you so much for this clip.
Remember that Gordan was called in at the last minute when Frank Sinatra walked off set...that's why he was a bit out of shape...a little thick around the middle
I hear ya! I NEVER understand how people refer to him as a baritone. In my opinion he's the greatest tenor in the history of the american musical stage!
Words would diminish what impact this video had on me! The best performance I have ever seen of one of the best songs ever written. When the violin comes in, when he thinks it may be a girl...I got such chills. Thank you so much for posting this!!
To me, John sets a standard here and gives us the example by which all other "Soliloquy's" are compared and measured. It's absolutely magnificent singing and communicating. I'm just blown away. Thanks a million for posting!
I've listened to this performance for 50 years - but this is the first time I've ever seen it. It's stunning - I don't know how else to put it. There was never a finer male lead on stage.
BTW if I read the index at the bottom this was filmed in June 22, 1952.
You are right....after hearing John audition for Oklahoma to replace Alfred Drake, they got the idea for the Solioquy. John after flying to NY from LA, asked to warm up before he auditioned and he did an aria...I believe it was from The Barber of Seville.
Couldn't tell ya But I know Mr. MacRae did have it keyed up by one key from the published music at the time of the film. BUT Mr. Raitt most likely keyed it up as well.
This is pretty unbeatable. For me, John's interpretation is the standard by which I measure all others. Thanks so much for posting this gem! A lesson unto itself!
If you can get the cast recording of Carousel, you must hear Raitt sing The Highest Judge Of All (it was not in the movie). It will take your breath away. I'm guessing you all know MacRae replaced Sinatra in the film. Frank walked when he found out Cinemascope required two takes of each scene. Some of that early footage was good; He would have been good in the role of Billy. But, then, I think MacRae was great.
He sounds tinny like an Irish tenor even though he was a baritone. I also have the original cast recording and to be fair, this TV sound doesn't do John justice. But his elocution is too precise as if Billy himself had studied voice. Mac was more naturalistic with more variety is his phrasing,range,tone and color. John does go up nicely on that last note. I never saw the original broadway production but then I never saw Mac in Cinemascope 55 and stereophonic sound. Two different media.
I also hear more of a tenor color to his voice than baritone. However, "tinny" is not the word I would use to describe his voice, especially when compared to bwy tenors of today.
He beats the shit out of Gordon Macrae with this one. The best! God only knows why he didn't play Billy in the movie. The original, the best. The last note practically brings me to tears.
Oh, I don't think Raitt is underrated -- I've never read a critic who didn't rate him among the all-time best leading men of the Broadway musical theatre --
Trivia note: the original line was "I don't give a damn what he does". Not "darn". Dammit.
Apparently it was censored for this broadcast version.
Dulcimerea 2 days ago
The best version of the Soliloquy, ever. That final note... !!
Crwthy 2 months ago
Ok Ladies and gentlemen, on this matter of Raitt being a Tenor or a Baritone. I just watched an interview with Raitt where he called himself a "high Lyric Baritone" which is an operatic term. I've heard Baritones hit high B Sherrill Milnes (on his recording of Verdi's Rigoletto). Point is you can be a baritone with high notes. Hell, that's what a baritone is! It's the middle ground between Tenor and Bass and anything is admissible! So Raitt was a Baritone!
Chriswren9 2 months ago
The fantastic thing about this performance is that it's not legit opera. He finds a way to create a mixed tone, especially at the end that's gorgeous, real and accessible without it sounding like typical musical theatre or opera. It's something in between and it's fantastic.
lcowles 2 months ago
man, when I was watching this I was all like "this is really nice. He's a good singer. Great voice, better than that other version I saw-OH MY GOODNESS THAT LAST NOTE!"
I'd never heard it done that way before. I love this performance :)
christianrockr08 3 months ago
Wow, he blew that out of the water. In the film version I always loved Gordon MacRae, though he was cuter too :) But what a voice!
nancypo1 3 months ago
More John Raitt fans should check out his rendition of Figaro's Aria from The Barber of Seville.
MrCharbonnelWalker 3 months ago
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MrCharbonnelWalker 3 months ago
Ahhhh old Broadway voices. I miss them. The Old B-way voices were actually trained, unlike todays broadway singers. These singers just didn't have the volume and girth for Opera but still trained and you can hear it (like the great Gordon Macrae). Now we have crapola on the majority of Broadway stages. Just listen to the placement of the high G on "take it," at the end. That is the most impressive. The Bb is ok, but the placement of that G on that vowel...WOW
JCLAWS 4 months ago
even on this old kinescope, his presence, charisma, and expressivity are electric.
and what a singer! in the theater it must have been overwhelming.
dutchbaritone08 4 months ago
sp) often..
vallieblaze 4 months ago
My father died a week ago Sunday. He was a fan of John Raitt and when I was a child he used to sing the second half of this song about having a daughter to me.. I can hear him singing along with a pretty good voice. Just hearing this song brings back such wonderful memories of how much he loved me, I will come back and listen to it oftern.
vallieblaze 4 months ago
Fantastic!!
masquerader13 5 months ago
No voices like this today. Seamlessly matched top to bottom.
Crwthy 6 months ago
RESPECT. Wow.
lcowles 6 months ago
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He is perfect in this role.. just perfect.
kgarmaker123 7 months ago
I love the fact that these clips have survived and we are able to see these legends in their prime and to refer to their performances as inspirations for the upcoming stage stars who will take up their mantles and perpetuate the rich legacy of American Theater.
barochial 7 months ago
john was a true broadway baritone, or as some might call him a bari-tenor. and i mean that with all respect. he was not an opera singer but a real legitimate broadway voice with power and emotion and all that is needed to sing this kind of rep. this is a gone era unfortunately. you can hand out all the mics you want but they just make the sound louder not good. him, mcrea and goulet were in a class of their own and set high mark. saw them all in person and miss this kind of artist today
operacaster 9 months ago
Gorgeous, honest, manly, and such humility. I still remember the impression he made on me as a kid watching The Pajama Game. Definitive.
eyelash1960 9 months ago
That man was a monster. He killed it every damn day.
troupermcgee 9 months ago
OH MY GOD THE END. HOW DID HE DO IT?
Arctophile2000 10 months ago
Afterthought: My Dad more than likely did the sound on this show!
peacenikkie 11 months ago
I am so thrilled to find this posted. It has been my favorite song from "Carousel" since I was a young girl. My Dad (as Chief Sound Technician for CBS at the time), worked with John Raitt in live radio and TV. He thought much of him as a singer with a magnificent voice and respected him as a performer and a person of integrity. Thank you so much for this rare video! ~0:-)
peacenikkie 11 months ago
for those wondering he was a baritone
LPwonder2008 11 months ago
This is higher than the original key
Bra-fucking-o, man!
fountainchain126 11 months ago
Why is everyone trying to pigeonhole singers into specific vocal ranges? Bass, baritone. tenor etc etc,if you like what you hear,who gives a crap?John was a fantastic singer ,coupled with great performance skills.As far as vocal dexterity is concerned the throat and larinx are muscles which after long practise can be made to do exdraodinary things.Richard Tauber would sing in the Bath,in a Restauraunt,having a crap,having a shave. Making love!! Its passion that makes a great singer,
phantomxr 1 year ago
is it me or does he look like Dr Cox from scrubs?
RedMonds931 1 year ago
Absolutely the best single performance of this difficult song. Raitt truly was peerless and shows his chops here. At this time he appeared in a Broadway show called "Three Wishes for Jamie." He was a tour de force in that show and that is a must-hear for any of his fans. it's available on cd.
haroldhill1000 1 year ago
Back when musical leads required singing
arthusmcgregor 1 year ago 7
BRAVO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
sojonesla 1 year ago
from 7:02 on...Money!!!
kappadude22 1 year ago
What in hell HAPPENED to our musical theater? Why are singers with thin, nasal instruments like Jackman and Wilson taken seriously in these roles, which clearly call for voices as rich and strong as Raitt's? Or Alfred Drake's? Or Howard Keel's? Or Robert Goulet's? Or Richard Kiley's? Or (jumping ahead two-three decades:)) Brian Stokes Mitchell's?
stevevandien 1 year ago
@stevevandien
or Gordon McRae--but I agree withyou 100%--let's get real; Jackman is a handsome charismatic movie star so he is very popular in the role but he cannot hang with the men you mentioned.
RPenta 1 year ago
@RPenta Didn't mean to imply that Jackman and Wilson are not good PEFORMERS. I like them both. But good heavens, their singing could hardly be compared to MacRae's (thanks for mentioning him; don't know why I forgot to:)), Raitt's, Keel's, etc. Best, Steve
stevevandien 1 year ago
@stevevandien
Thank you for your comments; an espec. mentioning the often forgotten Robert Goulet; even the kids on American idol could benefit from watching these videos although I am not sure that American Idol ever had a show dedicated to the American Musical Theater--many of those songs--not just the legendarily challenging Solioquy may be beyond those beginners.
RPenta 1 year ago
John Raitt sang for my father in 1960 in Seattle at the Green Lake Aqua Theatre. He may have been 55 or 60 then but what a voice and he was the real guy. Sat around my father playing piano at my in laws place on a relaxing day and he sang and sang and sang just for the hell of it. Memories.....No microphones or amplification either.
Michel Stern
mpslaw98040 1 year ago
perfection is heard and displayed in this man
roseof92 1 year ago
gchs1965 makes a very astute point about the differences between performing on television and in the theater that is easy to forget as viewers.
astroguy42 1 year ago
So glad this is still on YouTube Chriswren9; nobody can sing it like John.
pd6403 1 year ago
OMG. How is that control possible? Not to mention memory.
modspell 1 year ago
i love this song!!! xxx
christinedaae87 1 year ago
The beginning is up a whole step from the score.
dude999998 1 year ago
a great voice and terrific delivery,thanks for the memory
dirtyolddad 1 year ago
Hugh Jackman is terrific in the movies. But in this role or as Curly? He can't carry Raitt's or MacRae's jock. In the old days, you reallyhad to be able to sing. They all had some real classical training. Now it's all mikes and tinny, reedy, nasal voices.
jojojo943 1 year ago 4
Nice to see he includes the "When I have a daughter..." verse. It was cut from the score but Rodgers allowed Raitt to include it on Decca's cast album. Until I saw this video that is the only place I have ever heard the verse.
frontrowcentre 1 year ago
Thank you for posting this incredible document - from one of the greatest of all singing actors.
Hugh Jackman, and others who wish to do the role, should study this; and decide whether they are equal to the task!
skatesindreams 1 year ago
Not completely off subject , but a bit of trivia: Mr Raitt played opposite to Doris Day in the movie version of the Pajama game as Sid a role he originally played on Broadway and he was also the proud papa of legendary singer and blues rock guitarist Bonnie Raitt and former father-in-law to MIchael O'Keefe (Danny Noonan from Caddyshack amongst other roles)...
Tsmeplz 1 year ago
how is this guy a baritone. the F's and the end are sung wide open. and the Bb sounds like that of a ly
aspsingr 2 years ago 2
Someone else, in our current day, is Anthony Warlow. He can be whatever he wants to be. Depending on the repertoire and song he can change where he turns through his passagio and this absolutely blows me away. He can keep an open throat up to an Ab or maybe an A. I can keep an open throat up to a G. Anthony can also add the weight into the voice and turn through the normal baritone Bb/B - E/F passagio. It blows me away.
aedb15t 2 years ago
If you check out the first section of this number he raises it 1/2 step and then takes the end down to the original key. He handles his passagio like a baritone. Notice where he turns and what he keeps open. That high Bb is glorious and really sounds like a tenor high Bb. Mine and many other baritones have a huskier color up there with not as much spin and brilliance.
aedb15t 2 years ago 2
I have debated this over the years and have come down on the side of John was both baritone and tenor. Hear me out.
Voice type is NOT about range but voice color and tesitura. John was not an operatic tenor nor an operatic baritone. I don't think he could have had a career doing either. What he WAS was a broadway baritone. His voice lies higher than a traditional baritone by 1/2 or 1 step.
aedb15t 2 years ago 10
@aedb15t but it is apparent that he uses an operatic technique, which is apparent in the high lying parts in the end. So why shouldn't he have been able to sing opera too?
Jaaakob 1 year ago
@aedb15t listen... baritones do not have ringing high b flats.. Most have High A flats.. Those that can sing higher, could have gone either way with their voices.. but chose to train as baritones..
kgarmaker123 7 months ago
@kgarmaker123 Hi. Thanks for commenting. I can point to many many baritones who have ringing high Bb and some with high C's. A guy from my area has a nice high A in The National Anthem.
As I said, voice type is about color and not range. I have a high Bb and am as baritone as they come. If you analyze where John R works his pasagio lies you can tell that he is most probably a high/lyric baritone.
That being said..... He is great no matter.
aedb15t 7 months ago
@aedb15t You know I do not agree. In Broadway, roles are not written for a voice range perse, but in opera they are.. and if you look at those roles, the ones written for tenors, many do not exceed High B flats( does that mean that baritones sing them? NO. they don';t and roles for mezzo's.. seldom have High C's in them, a frequently lie low.. Some Mezzos transition to soprano and they sound just like that.. reaching for high notes that are not comfortable for them..
kgarmaker123 7 months ago
@aedb15t Well said...some people on youtube don't understand how the voice works...I've been trying to explain what you just wrote to people for years and they dont get it...its nice to know someone knows what they are talking about
gaspo35 6 months ago
@kgarmaker123 watch?v=Nz2avg-D7xo
aedb15t 7 months ago
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GORDON MACRAE far SURPASSED THIS
796824 2 years ago
How?
stevevandien 2 years ago
@stevevandien Listen
796824 2 years ago
@796824
thats absurd
cousinarty 1 year ago
I think he sings it the best of everyone on youtube... however, I think he could perhaps it more. Its not he sings it too cleanly, he just lacks emotion at some points.
The Ending is Incredible, though...
JoshA1990 2 years ago 2
Geez...I'm a trained singer, and I MARVEL at this man's voice. I wish I had high notes like that!
BroadwayBratt 2 years ago
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amazing. just, amazing.
broadwaybaby0303 2 years ago
I have this song with great, great pleasure -- and by Raitt, too. But this one is Mount Rushmore, the Eiffel Tower, the great Pyramid.
Thank you!
mwoldin 2 years ago
The man had courage. It was one thing to do this in a theatre. It was another to sing on live television. If you made a mistake millions of people saw it. After singing for over 7 minutes you expected him to sing the final note as the 5th of the scale as written. In this case it would have been a high F. But no; he went for the high Bb and nailed it. Ive seen one or two other performances by Raitt from the same time period and he never fails to make the high note. Godlike!
gchs1965 2 years ago 18
You know George Abbott (while working with him on Pajama game) Called him the most consistent actor he had ever worked with, so he had a record for being "on" all the time. This man worked!
Chriswren9 2 years ago
@gchs1965 great voice, but not a baritone.. he is a tenor.. so High B flats are not a problem for him.
kgarmaker123 7 months ago
@kgarmaker123 definitely a baritone, if you analyze his voice an his register changes you can tell they are that of a baritone...just b/c he has a Bb doesnt make him a tenor....i am a very much so a tenor yet have a low G, that doesnt mean i am a baritone though....
gaspo35 6 months ago
I don't know whether he was a tenor or a baritone and I don't even want to post an opinion on the subject. One thing seems indisputable, though: John Raitt was the real deal. (I wonder what he'd think of the current practice of miking the leads and allowing them to sound like American Idol finalists - cf. the current revival of West Side Story and its Tony.)
robertholliston 2 years ago 2
Sir you could not be more correct! I'm almost sure he would not be pleased with these weak amplified voices of what are 'now' called leading men. As in his day the leading men could break our leading men in half over there KNEES!
Although I do feel there are some exceptions like Brian Stoke Mitchell!
Chriswren9 2 years ago 3
@Chriswren9 Brian Stoke Mitchell, has to breath between every word...
seektheforce 11 months ago
@Chriswren9 I would also give an exception to Paulo Szot in South Pacific :)
popertop 9 months ago
@popertop Well Paulo Szot was an opera singer for years. I wish there were more quality crossover artists like him! He has a great balance between the opera and musical theatre styles
blackpython 8 months ago
I think Raitt was a tenor, but Billy Bigelow is a baritone role. If that makes any sense. Raitt's other roles (mainly Sid Sorokin in The Pajama Game) are considered tenor roles, and now it's mostly baritones that sing this. Also, an operatic baritone would probably have a B-flat on a good day, but wouldn't go around singing them as often and consistently as Raitt.
KatherineXIX 2 years ago
Katherine: You're exactly right. Raitt was a tenor and a damned good one. I'm an operatic baritone and can sing a B-flat most any day, as MANY baritones can. What I can't do is sing a B-flat after singing for 6 or 7 minutes up in a high tessitura like this one. MacRae, Drake, Goulet... those guys were definitely baritones. But Raitt was a tenor.
countceprano 2 years ago
@robertholliston high baritone or lyric baritone he had a gorgeous upper range like in the song "hey there"
Kornwolf91 1 year ago
@robertholliston He was very much a tenor!
ZAPDUNGAA 1 year ago
It´s a B flat^^ and a big one. no question, he´s a tenor.
Oberon90 2 years ago
No, he's a high baritone or what they call in the Broadway world baritenor. He trained to be an opera singer. Most tenors couldn't handle the low notes in "If I loved you" and during other parts of ths show. The bottom of his voice is amazingly rich. I have a friend of mine who is a baritone with a Bb.
VincentRicciardi 2 years ago
I knew John Raitt...I worked with John Raitt, and sir...there are no John Raitts. to end the discussion on is he bari or tenor...John himself would tell you that he was a lyric tenor, but the money back then was as a baritone.
atasteofbroadway 2 years ago 3
You said it! I find it interesting that back awhile, baritones were more famous than tenors/basses. I have a recording of William Warfield singing "Ol' Man RIver" from 1962, and I was shocked to find out he was a "baritone". No "baritone" I know of has a voice that can reach an Ab1 and have a classic basso-profondo sound at the same time!
Jpmadore1 2 years ago
I would disagree about hitting an Ab....I know bass baritones that have a solid Ab...it's the timber and ease that John Raitt hit it that made him a lyric tenor
kbmrcampbell 2 years ago
A flat? I thought it was B flat.
AtLastOnTheGround 2 years ago
You know how people say that if a woman plays Mama Rose, then they have hit the height of their career, the same is with guys and if they can belt out "Soliloquy" like John Raitt, they have hit the highlight of their career. It's a role I am dying to play!
fashionglindaguru 2 years ago
Baritone, tenor - who cares? The point is John Raitt had Big lungs and Bigger balls - and wasn't afraid to use 'em - and knew EXACTLY what he was doing.. Absolutely Masterful! God Bless him!
macraeman 2 years ago 5
Damn. To think we had talent like this and nowadays people are impressed with Adam Lambert. Those musical theatre types should really do their homework.
skerfy 2 years ago 4
Re: the ending - HOLY SHIT.
KatherineXIX 2 years ago 2
John Raitt is a Baritone, he may have the range of a tenor, although true baritone's should have up to a Bflat....anyways, whether or not he could sing a high C, his timbre is that of a Baritone, EX: covering his sound starting at an Eflat
larsmusic 2 years ago
This totally blew me away. He has one of the greatest tenor voices I've ever heard! If he were around today, he'd be a star at the MET, let alone the musical theatre stage. He doesn't have to "do" much: he just IS Billy Bigelow in his attitude and makes his effects with his pronunciation. A lesson in acting and singing to every student of musical theatre - or opera! Thank you so much for this clip.
njmezzo 2 years ago
I quite agree that the timbre of his voice is much more akin to that of a tenor, replete with his splendid b-flat at the end of this aria.
Baritone04 2 years ago
One of the best b'way's ever seen! Impeccable technique! I'm so jealous!!!
scryingt 2 years ago
Thats how it's done
LumosNox 2 years ago 6
perfection. Sigh.
selfy666 2 years ago
"Thats how it's done" indeed~!
Chriswren9 2 years ago
I have always loved Gordon McCrae's version of this wonderful song, but John Raitt's finale is just superb.
Oh to have a voice like that!
Dougknowspaper 2 years ago
Remember that Gordan was called in at the last minute when Frank Sinatra walked off set...that's why he was a bit out of shape...a little thick around the middle
atasteofbroadway 2 years ago
He is amazing! Loved him in the Pajama Game.
DorisDayFanatic 2 years ago
I saw John Raitt in "Shenandoah". What a show.
corvus13 2 years ago
That is such an amazing vocal exercise. And that Bb at the end?! Is that even mixed? It sounds so natural! What a voice.
jakethewoz 2 years ago 7
Def not in mixed voice. That's full chest voice right there. He is absolutely a tenor not a baritone as most say.
aspsingr 2 years ago 2
I hear ya! I NEVER understand how people refer to him as a baritone. In my opinion he's the greatest tenor in the history of the american musical stage!
CapnJoe023 2 years ago 4
You are correct sir! Raitt was Great!!!!!!
JoelBWeisberg 2 years ago
As good as it gets. God bless John Raitt:) --
stevevandien 3 years ago 3
YIPPEE always wanted to see this!
cmhmuscle 3 years ago
Words would diminish what impact this video had on me! The best performance I have ever seen of one of the best songs ever written. When the violin comes in, when he thinks it may be a girl...I got such chills. Thank you so much for posting this!!
tatumpiano 3 years ago 2
Fantastic. Gave me chills. Thank you for posting!
rosacotton 3 years ago 3
Absolutely breathtaking!
bjp2969 3 years ago 3
This song is such a ballbuster and he doesn't ever let it flag.
cloraxion 3 years ago
To me, John sets a standard here and gives us the example by which all other "Soliloquy's" are compared and measured. It's absolutely magnificent singing and communicating. I'm just blown away. Thanks a million for posting!
scottreiburn 3 years ago 4
I've listened to this performance for 50 years - but this is the first time I've ever seen it. It's stunning - I don't know how else to put it. There was never a finer male lead on stage.
BTW if I read the index at the bottom this was filmed in June 22, 1952.
Nuance5 3 years ago 3
that's one pool where bonnie raitt got her talent from, huh ;-)
saitenschinder 3 years ago
They wrote it FOR him?
Man, too good.
popertop 3 years ago
You are right....after hearing John audition for Oklahoma to replace Alfred Drake, they got the idea for the Solioquy. John after flying to NY from LA, asked to warm up before he auditioned and he did an aria...I believe it was from The Barber of Seville.
atasteofbroadway 2 years ago
Is this a half-step higher than the film version with Gordon Macrae?
AtLastOnTheGround 3 years ago
Couldn't tell ya But I know Mr. MacRae did have it keyed up by one key from the published music at the time of the film. BUT Mr. Raitt most likely keyed it up as well.
Chriswren9 3 years ago
this is in A to start. I don't know what key Gordon did it in, but it's normally in G, so it's a whole step up
evenflow9090 3 years ago
At first, it's a whole step higher than the original. For the final section, "I gotta get ready", he modulates back down to the original key.
MisterSanuk 3 years ago
Odd how people hear things differently. To me he has a crystal clear, "bell-like" quality that I associate with Irish tenors (and a young Sinatra).
Really a powerful performance, even with lousy TV sound.
TheMcLush 3 years ago 2
his strength as a singer and as an actor and the power of the story make this very operatic-like. the blend of this talent will never be seen again.
dlanodrelda 3 years ago 3
John was legit, but you always understood his lyrics and his transition was seemless into his upper register
atasteofbroadway 2 years ago
This is pretty unbeatable. For me, John's interpretation is the standard by which I measure all others. Thanks so much for posting this gem! A lesson unto itself!
scottreiburn 3 years ago 3
If you can get the cast recording of Carousel, you must hear Raitt sing The Highest Judge Of All (it was not in the movie). It will take your breath away. I'm guessing you all know MacRae replaced Sinatra in the film. Frank walked when he found out Cinemascope required two takes of each scene. Some of that early footage was good; He would have been good in the role of Billy. But, then, I think MacRae was great.
jayfel123 3 years ago
He sounds tinny like an Irish tenor even though he was a baritone. I also have the original cast recording and to be fair, this TV sound doesn't do John justice. But his elocution is too precise as if Billy himself had studied voice. Mac was more naturalistic with more variety is his phrasing,range,tone and color. John does go up nicely on that last note. I never saw the original broadway production but then I never saw Mac in Cinemascope 55 and stereophonic sound. Two different media.
1915fas 3 years ago
I also hear more of a tenor color to his voice than baritone. However, "tinny" is not the word I would use to describe his voice, especially when compared to bwy tenors of today.
RossiniSoprano 3 years ago
He beats the shit out of Gordon Macrae with this one. The best! God only knows why he didn't play Billy in the movie. The original, the best. The last note practically brings me to tears.
blackpython 3 years ago
so good.. there is no man on Broadway like that now.
Menzipwah 3 years ago 4
so good. there is no one like man on broadway like that now.
Menzipwah 3 years ago 2
His last note still sends chills down my spine.
tippypc 3 years ago 3
Just the best! I mean, truly.
inmyprime 3 years ago 3
Great,so underrated....Pajama Game
beagleman123456789 3 years ago 2
Oh, I don't think Raitt is underrated -- I've never read a critic who didn't rate him among the all-time best leading men of the Broadway musical theatre --
stevevandien 3 years ago
He was great
beagleman123456789 3 years ago
Rogers and Hammerstein wrote this for John Raitt after hearing his audition; Carousel was their favorite show and John Raitt was my favorite singer.
pd6403 3 years ago 3