I new you would say that, but that's OK I'm working with Read Made RC they are good people to work with but keep making your videos and I will keep watching, great job by the way! it makes me feel like I'm there! but you are good! have a great day!
@Soldier53flyer I only have one way of retiring old gear, and that's running it until it dies or is destroyed. :) My old gear becomes backup gear in case my new gear meets an untimely end. It's a standard FPV setup. Get on RCGroups and start doing research on FPV. There's a lot of information out there.
Ya' at' eeh' my friend. Hope all is well! I was wondering if you could post a detailed video of your fpv setup. I am wanting to build mine just like yours and I already have the Lawmate 1.2ghz 1,000mw plug and play system. Or maybe email me a list of the items. peoplesm44@yahoo.com Any info would help! Whens the next video comin??? ;-)
@seansmp420 Duh, my bad. I am building an Octa copter to use as a cinema platform, but this FPV stuff looks amazing. I am thinking of the Lawmate 1.3 ghz 1000 mw transmitter. Is yours 1000 mw or 500 mw? How long have you been flying? I just bought a couple of the Ardupilot APM2 controllers, one for the Octa and one as a spare, or for an FPV. They have 2 OSD that integrate. Presume you really like the Reaper XL. Do you suggest that or would something like the Multiplex Cularis better?
@rodrigomisterm Yes, some shots there is wind bouncing the plane producing shaky video, so I use After Effects stabilization to clean some of that up. Because the camera uses a wide-angle lens, it's difficult to stabilize the video without causing distortion on the edge of the frame, which you'll sometimes see as terrain or clouds appear to bend a bit. But it's a trade-off, bouncy video or slightly deformed video? It's just a lot easier to watch when it's stabilized, IMO.
@Crashz9 Let me know when you're coming and where you'll be staying, maybe we can hook up and fly together. I'm always looking for another excuse to get out and fly!
Goosebumps is right. I've probably watched 20,000 youtube vids and never commented on a single one, but felt compelled to comment on this one. It's absolutely amazing! I've seen this part of Utah from the ground, but seeing it from the sky, along with the beautiful music, is stunning. Looking forward to more.
top job on the flying skills and footage , I see the go pro has the reflective problem with the lens when looking into the sun . still produces a nice clear picture though . it looks great on the 55inch plasma anyway.
@monjon868 Thanks. Yeah, the GoPro 2 is a massive improvement over the original Hero though, the lens optics are totally different. You'll still get a sun glow with strong streak of light, but you don't get all the circular lens artifacts and blowout that the first camera had. So it's much much improved for clarity. Personally I didn't mind the lens flare on the Hero1, it was interesting to see, but it'd overpower the scenery.
@orandaboy Well I certainly agree! It's only been online for about a week, so it's not terribly bad, but please feel free to pass it around! And tell everybody who's interested in videos like this to subscribe to my channel. :) Maybe someday!
@thatstheguy07 If I'm not mistaken, that's the potash plant just outside Moab. In another shot, you can see the blue and white settling ponds (for potash).
@thatstheguy07 It's a coal processing plant, they pack coal on trains and ship it to the power plant where it generates the juice I'm using to write this reply.
I have a mothership 83" epp w/ hyperion Z3025-6 ... 80% compleated, This is the Inspiration to follow your magnificent work. looks like I need a gopro too. Beautiful Holidays to you and your family. You are The cinematographer !
I wonder what might happen if you recorded at 60hz with a fixed white balance (outdoor, instead of auto). This might reduce some of the jello effect and the color shifts on the dives after you go through the notch. But these are mere quibbles to an amazing video.
@scottturchin Thanks Scott! I really appreciate it! Share it around with your friends! And don't forget to subscribe, there's more great stuff coming! -Todd
@scottturchin Let me know when you're ready! I'll come join you! I love the Olympics, and I've been looking for an excuse to get back up to Port Angeles and Sequim!
@toddsher2112 I'm heading up there tomorrow morning to pick up my brother, I'll take some pics on the way up, take the go-pro maybe..Look for it on FPVLabs.com :)
Im White Mountain Apache and alil Yaqui and Ojibwe. Yeah I understand it sucks. Like I told nemesis4343 if you ask the tribe or tribal government most likely they will say yes. That is if it is for research or the video being a gift to the tribe/nation. As far as state and national parks go well I think your Dragonlink longrange system with a RTH and GoogleEarth would do just fine. Just dont make it obvious what your doing. Where are you from my friend???
@nonamerc This is not the Grim Reaper, it's a new larger plane called the Reaper XL. CrashTestHobby will begin selling it here very soon. I would wait for this larger plane if you're doing FPV. The Grim Reaper is a bit too small to carry all the gear and maintain good flight characteristics.
I'm using Lawmate Video Gear, Dragon Link UHF Gear, and the Hero 2 camera, with a Vee antenna on the plane, and BiQuad / Patch diversity on the ground. Still experimenting with antennas.
@jvyv BTW, thanks. Really glad you like it. Subscribe so you can get notices of future releases. The next one will be posted on Monday, and it's awesome!
I absolutely loved it, Todd. Being an FPV addict myself, I cant get enough of FPV flying and FPV videos. Especially ones of this caliber. I take my hat off to you, sir!
WOW!!! My friend Ive been waiting for more people to post some videos of these places. Being of Native descent Ive often wondered what my homeland looked like from the sky. I felt as if I was a bird searching for a nest in this vast canyon land. I myself am building my fpv system and would love to learn your setup. Have some questions about the dragonlink. Let me know and thankyou so much for this amazing and beautiful video. You are so talented and have great skill. keep up the great work!!!!
@IjusWanaFly83 What tribe are you from? I wish the government didn't own so much of the beautiful land and prohibit flying over it. All of the national parks are off-limits to FPV flying, and there are some pretty steep fines for doing it. It's ridiculous. It's a dream of mine to head down to Monument Valley and get Birds Eye Video of the beautiful Navajo Tribal lands that I saw a few years back when I went down for the Red Bull Air Races.
@nstaib No, the PC has no Problem with HD at all, the CPU is completely relaxed. My monitor runs at 60Hertz. Which fps settings have you chosen in your render configuration? Which fps rate was chosen in the gopro/camcorder settings? Dont you see the flickering when the picture pans?
To me it looks like the clips that have jerky pans are slowed down. I fly GoPro's and DSLR's on multirotors and see the "flickering"/ jerky pan alot on fast pans that are significantly slowed down. It is due to the slow frame rate 30fps. I even see it at 60fps. The best thing that can be done about it is panning slower. Or, try to fix it in post.
Thanks for the astonishingly great video, but can you help me with finding this music? you said it's by E.S. Posthumus, but does it have a name? Thanks!
My jaw hit the keyboard in the first sequence. Beautiful music, great job of flying, very creative edit, this video has a majestic feel to it that must be worthy of some award. i love the train flyby especially, and the video at the end of the river scene. Just an amazing project well done, and Im off to google E.S. Posthumus to find some music for my videos. :-)
@aprepo HD footage is shot with the GoPro Hero2. The ground-based shots of my plane are shot with a professional Sony camera, and there are a couple of chase shots (where I bank away from the rock and another plane follows) that was shot by my friend on a Go Pro Hero Original at a lower resolution. But it was so cool I had to include it. My live video camera (the one I view from while flying) is a PIXIM Seawolf.
@MotherPlaneRC Actually, a lot of people do use the GoPro as an FPV cam, but it introduces a slight delay in the video, which is not good when flying close to the ground. A quarter second delay could be deadly. But it works great if you have a stable plane or multicopter that's not getting quite so close to the terrain. They made the GoPro Hero2 very easy to set up live video out.
Thanks guys! Glad everybody likes it. It was a lot of work to put together, it means a lot when people enjoy it so much. Hopefully lots more to come in 2012!
You rock!! Awesome video!! You really pulled this off better than I dreamed in my trip. I have a new wing I am working on. Might try another trip out there.
I did check my pulse. It was elevated. Great job. Really enjoyed it. If you could stabilize roll some it would be even better. Love the river too. You've done a really good job. Glad you didn't crash when you hit the rock in the opening scene. Keep it up. Post more.
Hey when were you on Mars huh? lol! awesome is the word.
Hoverbot1TV 15 hours ago
whats your flight time and power setup .
BankheadRC 16 hours ago
I new you would say that, but that's OK I'm working with Read Made RC they are good people to work with but keep making your videos and I will keep watching, great job by the way! it makes me feel like I'm there! but you are good! have a great day!
Soldier53flyer 5 days ago
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@Soldier53flyer I only have one way of retiring old gear, and that's running it until it dies or is destroyed. :) My old gear becomes backup gear in case my new gear meets an untimely end. It's a standard FPV setup. Get on RCGroups and start doing research on FPV. There's a lot of information out there.
toddsher2112 5 days ago
Nice!!!!!!
keltschuk 1 week ago
Beautiful.
Vaalferatus 1 week ago
Breathtaking dynamic beauty!
mrmaple 1 week ago
very nice..... Adios
Djgiovanni1976 1 week ago
Ya' at' eeh' my friend. Hope all is well! I was wondering if you could post a detailed video of your fpv setup. I am wanting to build mine just like yours and I already have the Lawmate 1.2ghz 1,000mw plug and play system. Or maybe email me a list of the items. peoplesm44@yahoo.com Any info would help! Whens the next video comin??? ;-)
IjusWanaFly83 1 week ago
Bravo!
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@seansmp420 Duh, my bad. I am building an Octa copter to use as a cinema platform, but this FPV stuff looks amazing. I am thinking of the Lawmate 1.3 ghz 1000 mw transmitter. Is yours 1000 mw or 500 mw? How long have you been flying? I just bought a couple of the Ardupilot APM2 controllers, one for the Octa and one as a spare, or for an FPV. They have 2 OSD that integrate. Presume you really like the Reaper XL. Do you suggest that or would something like the Multiplex Cularis better?
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StoneForestFilms 3 weeks ago
Stunning cinematography! What motor? What battery? How long can you fly on one battery? Which Lawmate? 1.2ghz 1000mw?
StoneForestFilms 3 weeks ago
How far is the range you have from the remote to the plane...?
mauss9 3 weeks ago
this should be in an iMax theater!
fndu8s 3 weeks ago
@fndu8s AGREED!
toddsher2112 2 weeks ago
It looks like a movie !
Ulfmarciano 3 weeks ago
this is a little airplane '<'??
Ulfmarciano 3 weeks ago
Congratulations. You just overtook BBC's hundred thousand dollar bird's pov camera rig with this.
ejicon 3 weeks ago
excellent!...
josephcderer 3 weeks ago
Hi... Congrats.. Its Amazing!
Just a question..
are you using some video stabilizer?
rodrigomisterm 1 month ago
@rodrigomisterm Yes, some shots there is wind bouncing the plane producing shaky video, so I use After Effects stabilization to clean some of that up. Because the camera uses a wide-angle lens, it's difficult to stabilize the video without causing distortion on the edge of the frame, which you'll sometimes see as terrain or clouds appear to bend a bit. But it's a trade-off, bouncy video or slightly deformed video? It's just a lot easier to watch when it's stabilized, IMO.
toddsher2112 1 month ago
That was Awesome!. Should be longer :) I'll be there in late April with FPV gear...cant wait!
Crashz9 1 month ago
@Crashz9 Let me know when you're coming and where you'll be staying, maybe we can hook up and fly together. I'm always looking for another excuse to get out and fly!
toddsher2112 1 month ago
Wonderful!
Needs to be at Least 3 Hours Longer!
I Want More!
Thank You for The Ride!!
poppopscarvinshop 1 month ago
Beautifully done video. Great job!!!
PimpMyHeli 1 month ago
Love it, there are some great angles !
Lextronix 1 month ago
Goosebumps is right. I've probably watched 20,000 youtube vids and never commented on a single one, but felt compelled to comment on this one. It's absolutely amazing! I've seen this part of Utah from the ground, but seeing it from the sky, along with the beautiful music, is stunning. Looking forward to more.
jjones374house 2 months ago
BEAUTIFUL! I LOVE IT! :-)
1viva 2 months ago in playlist Uploaded videos
top job on the flying skills and footage , I see the go pro has the reflective problem with the lens when looking into the sun . still produces a nice clear picture though . it looks great on the 55inch plasma anyway.
monjon868 2 months ago
@monjon868 Thanks. Yeah, the GoPro 2 is a massive improvement over the original Hero though, the lens optics are totally different. You'll still get a sun glow with strong streak of light, but you don't get all the circular lens artifacts and blowout that the first camera had. So it's much much improved for clarity. Personally I didn't mind the lens flare on the Hero1, it was interesting to see, but it'd overpower the scenery.
toddsher2112 2 months ago
Very nice. Change the music and Trappy has a contender ;)
kajakmannen 2 months ago
Beautiful! Great flying! When I'm in the neighborhood...
lemoiencore 2 months ago in playlist Meer video's van toddsher2112
w o w I want a set up like this! thanks for sharing!
Beakerzor 2 months ago
how can someone dislike this video? idiots everywhere...
this video is outstanding, congrats men, loved the train scene, just awesome video!
wallaguest1 2 months ago
Impresionante!!!! Awesome!!!!!
kenodos 2 months ago
AMAZING!!!! this shoult have at least 1 million views not 5000 wtf
orandaboy 2 months ago
@orandaboy Well I certainly agree! It's only been online for about a week, so it's not terribly bad, but please feel free to pass it around! And tell everybody who's interested in videos like this to subscribe to my channel. :) Maybe someday!
toddsher2112 2 months ago
Hats off to you!! Words can't describe the beauty of that video... Epic.
AllenderStorage 2 months ago
What the hecks that factory doing there
thatstheguy07 2 months ago
@thatstheguy07 If I'm not mistaken, that's the potash plant just outside Moab. In another shot, you can see the blue and white settling ponds (for potash).
psounder 2 months ago in playlist More videos from toddsher2112
@psounder DING DING DING!!! We have a winner!
toddsher2112 2 months ago
@thatstheguy07 It's a coal processing plant, they pack coal on trains and ship it to the power plant where it generates the juice I'm using to write this reply.
toddsher2112 2 months ago
Very well done. Great flying and awesome footage!
Locoracers 2 months ago
Awesome, just awesome!
BrotherBloat 2 months ago
I have a mothership 83" epp w/ hyperion Z3025-6 ... 80% compleated, This is the Inspiration to follow your magnificent work. looks like I need a gopro too. Beautiful Holidays to you and your family. You are The cinematographer !
bloodybillanderson45 2 months ago in playlist Uploaded videos
supa kool
juz70 2 months ago
I wonder what might happen if you recorded at 60hz with a fixed white balance (outdoor, instead of auto). This might reduce some of the jello effect and the color shifts on the dives after you go through the notch. But these are mere quibbles to an amazing video.
BloomingtonFPV 2 months ago
This is probably the absolute best FPV video I have seen yet - (Watching from fpvlabs.com of course) - Awesome job!!
scottturchin 2 months ago
@scottturchin Thanks Scott! I really appreciate it! Share it around with your friends! And don't forget to subscribe, there's more great stuff coming! -Todd
toddsher2112 2 months ago
@toddsher2112 I've got my Zephyr II build going, FPV gear ordered - hope to show you some Olympic Mtns when I get flying...:)
scottturchin 2 months ago
@scottturchin Let me know when you're ready! I'll come join you! I love the Olympics, and I've been looking for an excuse to get back up to Port Angeles and Sequim!
toddsher2112 2 months ago
@toddsher2112 I'm heading up there tomorrow morning to pick up my brother, I'll take some pics on the way up, take the go-pro maybe..Look for it on FPVLabs.com :)
scottturchin 2 months ago
the platform seems extremely stable! Thumbs up!!!!
sledgehomer 2 months ago
Great scenery, and great flying! Wonder how big are the quarries in the United States...
guenterraab 2 months ago
Im White Mountain Apache and alil Yaqui and Ojibwe. Yeah I understand it sucks. Like I told nemesis4343 if you ask the tribe or tribal government most likely they will say yes. That is if it is for research or the video being a gift to the tribe/nation. As far as state and national parks go well I think your Dragonlink longrange system with a RTH and GoogleEarth would do just fine. Just dont make it obvious what your doing. Where are you from my friend???
IjusWanaFly83 2 months ago
Absolutely love it! Thank you so much for sharing. I look forward to seeing more Bird's Eye Videos in the future!!!
Deafstargirl 2 months ago
what is your setup on your grim reaper?
nonamerc 2 months ago
@nonamerc This is not the Grim Reaper, it's a new larger plane called the Reaper XL. CrashTestHobby will begin selling it here very soon. I would wait for this larger plane if you're doing FPV. The Grim Reaper is a bit too small to carry all the gear and maintain good flight characteristics.
I'm using Lawmate Video Gear, Dragon Link UHF Gear, and the Hero 2 camera, with a Vee antenna on the plane, and BiQuad / Patch diversity on the ground. Still experimenting with antennas.
toddsher2112 2 months ago
@toddsher2112
Did you have any OSD with GPS? What was your AUW?
Epic video with a soundtrack to match! The best FPV video I've ever seen so far...
jvyv 1 month ago
@jvyv Yes, I use DragonLabs products. The control is DragonLink. The OSD is DragonOSD (or DOSD V2+) with the stock GPS unit. Just under 5 lbs.
toddsher2112 1 month ago
@jvyv BTW, thanks. Really glad you like it. Subscribe so you can get notices of future releases. The next one will be posted on Monday, and it's awesome!
toddsher2112 1 month ago
Incredible --- Phantastic ---Thankyou !!!
willidejavu 2 months ago
I absolutely loved it, Todd. Being an FPV addict myself, I cant get enough of FPV flying and FPV videos. Especially ones of this caliber. I take my hat off to you, sir!
eyahoo2 2 months ago
WOW!!! My friend Ive been waiting for more people to post some videos of these places. Being of Native descent Ive often wondered what my homeland looked like from the sky. I felt as if I was a bird searching for a nest in this vast canyon land. I myself am building my fpv system and would love to learn your setup. Have some questions about the dragonlink. Let me know and thankyou so much for this amazing and beautiful video. You are so talented and have great skill. keep up the great work!!!!
IjusWanaFly83 2 months ago in playlist More videos from toddsher2112
@IjusWanaFly83 What tribe are you from? I wish the government didn't own so much of the beautiful land and prohibit flying over it. All of the national parks are off-limits to FPV flying, and there are some pretty steep fines for doing it. It's ridiculous. It's a dream of mine to head down to Monument Valley and get Birds Eye Video of the beautiful Navajo Tribal lands that I saw a few years back when I went down for the Red Bull Air Races.
toddsher2112 2 months ago
this is superb, very professional and enjoyable footage.
MammalAnonymous 2 months ago
You know how I feel about this video Todd, so impressive. Ross
Macsgrafs 2 months ago
Great video, superb skills! But why ist the video so stuttering? Have you used diffferent fps rates in your cutting program?
Prometreus 2 months ago
@Prometreus - the video is silky smooth from where I am sitting. Most likely your PC is struggling to replay at the highest resolution.
@toddsher2112 - this is awesomely epic! What a stage in which to perform...
nstaib 2 months ago
@nstaib No, the PC has no Problem with HD at all, the CPU is completely relaxed. My monitor runs at 60Hertz. Which fps settings have you chosen in your render configuration? Which fps rate was chosen in the gopro/camcorder settings? Dont you see the flickering when the picture pans?
Prometreus 2 months ago
@Prometreus
To me it looks like the clips that have jerky pans are slowed down. I fly GoPro's and DSLR's on multirotors and see the "flickering"/ jerky pan alot on fast pans that are significantly slowed down. It is due to the slow frame rate 30fps. I even see it at 60fps. The best thing that can be done about it is panning slower. Or, try to fix it in post.
951rcguy 1 week ago
that was outstanding!!! lots of skill to get away with that
MrLloyd54321 2 months ago
freakin spectacular thats the best video of not just fpv but anything I've ever seen. awesome !!!!
Lincolnjt41 2 months ago
Thanks for the astonishingly great video, but can you help me with finding this music? you said it's by E.S. Posthumus, but does it have a name? Thanks!
wiiomatic 2 months ago
@wiiomatic
Song is "Nasivern Pi" from Cartographer Album.
toddsher2112 2 months ago
@toddsher2112
Thanks for your help! I'd gone through everything and missed it. Keep producing these, they're great!
wiiomatic 2 months ago
Love it, if only my dreams were that vivid I would never want to wake up.
loveblueoval1990 2 months ago
my god man, it is just beautiful.
enjoy the FPV :)
tr4nscend 2 months ago
Oh !! Very nice indeed.
Most definitely - "The Most Beautiful Aerial Desert Flying EVER!"
Merry Christmas and best wishes for the coming New Year 2012 ............. :-)
MrHelidude 2 months ago
Does your 2.4 transmitter have a capacitor on it?
yowsa52 2 months ago
This is amazing. Great job with the shots, the editing and the flying. I am wow'd.
xglserver 2 months ago
My jaw hit the keyboard in the first sequence. Beautiful music, great job of flying, very creative edit, this video has a majestic feel to it that must be worthy of some award. i love the train flyby especially, and the video at the end of the river scene. Just an amazing project well done, and Im off to google E.S. Posthumus to find some music for my videos. :-)
RCKenpilot 2 months ago
Awesome. What kind of cam do you use?
aprepo 2 months ago
@aprepo HD footage is shot with the GoPro Hero2. The ground-based shots of my plane are shot with a professional Sony camera, and there are a couple of chase shots (where I bank away from the rock and another plane follows) that was shot by my friend on a Go Pro Hero Original at a lower resolution. But it was so cool I had to include it. My live video camera (the one I view from while flying) is a PIXIM Seawolf.
toddsher2112 2 months ago
@toddsher2112 Why doesn't anyone use the Go Pro as the fpv cam?
MotherPlaneRC 2 months ago
@MotherPlaneRC Actually, a lot of people do use the GoPro as an FPV cam, but it introduces a slight delay in the video, which is not good when flying close to the ground. A quarter second delay could be deadly. But it works great if you have a stable plane or multicopter that's not getting quite so close to the terrain. They made the GoPro Hero2 very easy to set up live video out.
toddsher2112 2 months ago in playlist Uploaded videos
this is amazing just like all your vids
i just got my gopro 2 today and cant wait but i live in ireland so will not be as awsem as your vids lol WELLDONE
monit111 2 months ago
Thanks guys! Glad everybody likes it. It was a lot of work to put together, it means a lot when people enjoy it so much. Hopefully lots more to come in 2012!
toddsher2112 2 months ago
Todd your a. legend mate ..simply,,
mmarkcooper1 2 months ago
Simply incredible! Your mastery of flying, filming and editing is breathtaking!
darluap 2 months ago
You rock!! Awesome video!! You really pulled this off better than I dreamed in my trip. I have a new wing I am working on. Might try another trip out there.
nemesis4343 2 months ago
What to say? Wonderful, congratulations! I'd love to see live ...
bessybessy 2 months ago
Stunning, yet again!!!!
cna91 2 months ago
Velmi pěkné video )-:
spurnak 2 months ago
Amazing Todd. Keep up the great work.
jwjohnson909 2 months ago
EPIC... very nicely done
dgpilot1 2 months ago
Stunning! Definitely inspiring.
imagebuff 2 months ago
Nice palaces to fly... :) good work :)
fpvrcjohn 2 months ago
Amazing!
Powershotknecht 2 months ago
Fantastic work! Very inspiring! Now I'm back to building my Zeph II :-)
Pepelatzster 2 months ago
Awesome video! Looks like something from National Geographic.
ollanderparker 2 months ago
very nice pictures!
hirnwinde 2 months ago
Absolutely beautifull, great movie !
Thumb up !
:O
FivelingoPilotVieuw 2 months ago
Sweeeeet!!
dallibabs 2 months ago
Great work man! Awesome video and location. Loved how you were threading the needle through that rock formation!!!
schraut5 2 months ago
I did check my pulse. It was elevated. Great job. Really enjoyed it. If you could stabilize roll some it would be even better. Love the river too. You've done a really good job. Glad you didn't crash when you hit the rock in the opening scene. Keep it up. Post more.
repalmore 2 months ago
Epic stuff!
bergfald 2 months ago
so cool!
tuinopo80 2 months ago
Fantastic video!
fpvrc 2 months ago
grand canyon?
rcplaneguy1 2 months ago
Very Nice! What frequency are you using for video?
rctestflight 2 months ago
@rctestflight 2.4 Lawmate TX & RX
toddsher2112 2 months ago
Superb flights, I will be watching this a few times as you cannot catch everything first time.
scotsoft29 2 months ago
looks like someone has found the best fpv environment..
TeenFlyer95 2 months ago
thats wonderful :O
very nice!!!
michi386 2 months ago