Love this lecture. it reveals the fraud of scarcity the capitalist system imposes on us. It is outdated and no longer useful. I feel more compassion and sadness that the people running this world are trapped in their own sick ways. Fresco is a great speaker, he inspires this feeling as opposed to feeling outrage and anger. What a sober and inspiring plan. I'm in!
Watching it on further, some of the people forget that these decisions in the future will be put to practice, tests, hypothesis, and adjustments amongst many. There's probably millions of engineers, but fractions working for separate governments. If they work together, no one person's work on bad choices will be approved or set into factual detail. Heck, the technology may itself deny the decision error. This Venus Project actually makes more and more sense if you watch the video more than once
Education is the key to peace, love, and happiness but most people in the world have the "ignorance is bliss" attitude...
I do love his vision and dedication but people do not want to be educated. It's easier to discover something like flying or sending someone to the Moon and change their minds than trying to take away people's opinions to change their minds.
He was just avoiding what he believes when he dies and just stated a fact of reality when he dies his body would decompose and be transferred I to another element so no he didn't break his own logic what happens to his mind that he doesn't know
@711Daniels What he said is the miracle of eternal life. It is right there for you. take a steel ball and expose to high temperatures and it turns into energy. It cannot be destroyed and it cannot be created. Humans are obsessed with human visions of eternity and salvation in an "after life"...i like this one better. It means you have and always have been a part of everything. He isn't avoiding anything...human religions are human centered and they are narrow.
How does Jacque know what happens or does not happen at death, has he die before ? Would an honest answer be I don't know what exactly happens at death for certain, I have not experienced death yet > Do you understand what I am sayin'.....
THATS WHAT YOU CALL getting OWNED Fresco, by your own words too.. Pass this on 2 him, as I'm sure he'll be very impressed I just exposed the most critical error of his logic.....
Guys with facebook we can help get the message across as well. If everyone would post and re-post make groups about this I am sure the word would spread. Since the media won't help we might as well use what we have! Be pro-active and make a difference!
The best thing for people to do to help The Zeitgeist Movement and The Venus Project is to just start telling people, friends, coworkers strangers etc. and have them watch all the information on line. That is the best thing to do RIGHT NOW!!!! Educate people! Telling no one is the WORST thing you can do.
Why stress the Venus Project when it will only scare people away and put praise in your abilities to see the future way.... relax and focus on the good of the moneyless way and the benefits to human worth and start with the beginning movement.
thank you jf. You don't just deserve respect but the false placement of religous reverance that people cling to. An inspiration. A leader, and a fantastic mind. My ambition is to spread your message and to align with your worldly evaluation of perception and understanding. I hope for the freedom you discuss. I will work to escape this distopia. I love your lifes work, thankyou.
Have you read every single question and answer on The Venus Project website FAQ? All one hundred and four (so far)? Until then, don't label it as anything, especially socialism, because you don't know what you're talking about. It explains in plain English how it is significantly different.
What do you mean by the 'natural order'? The way of Nature has wisdom to it - such natural wisdom is evinced in the 'smart' behaviour of your cells and in the 'smart' behaviour of the biosphere. I reckon there is a kind of 'current' to this wise flowing/growing way of Nature, a current that we can sense and attempt to 'fit in' with, or go with. If/when we do, then the essential direction of the TVP will be facilitated. Naturally. Homeostasis of one kind or another saturates the web of life.
"Natural order of things," like what? And what do you mean by 'natural wisdom'? Storms happen and destroy everything in their path. Nature isn't 'smart.' It happens and sometimes it works (what 'works' interpreted by us.)
Like your body - 50 trillion cells orchestrated into a working whole - that is very smart. The biomimicry/bioneer movement defines itself as the "conscious emulation of Nature's genius". The biochemist Leslie Orgel spoke of evolution being "smarter than we are". David Attenborough often talks of 'clever' and 'ingenious' biological behaviour. Is more than metaphor. Nature may be indifferent and non-conscious but is, in terms of its constructive power in the bio-logical domain, certainly 'smart'.
Thanks for posting these seabrali, I just got through watching all 13, and I cant remember when I enjoyed watching something so much. I could listen to JF all night and cant possibly think of any questions to ask him myself because I see the truth of it , as plain as day.
After Zeitgeist I resolved to eschew patriotism, and nationalism, will never vote again, and am currently spreading the word.
in 200 years people will look back at these videos as archives. they will look at him the way we look back on ben franklin or george washington now, and they will have someone to truly honor. and thank for there peaceful wonderful way of life. or we wont be here in 200 years because we blew ourselves up. its time to choose.
I hope you're right runarmyof1, I hope you're right. Though, for this all to happen, first thing that must be done is that we must become the change we want to see become of the world. Only then will we be able to gain the understanding of what is next to come through our advancement of, not as humans, not as animals, & not as nature, but as earthlings; all that lives within this planet we call Earth.
theanarchist, you've highlighted a problem there, about us first needing to change. In another similar lecture, I've heard JF say that we, individuals as we are now, with our conditioning, will not fit in this new society. It's a sobering thought.
He talks about re-educating soldiers to be (e.g.) part of an environmental healing task force, but that supposes that this new society suddenly appears. I don't think it can. I fear, as JF does, that the transition must be painful
you're right about how JF has said that, with the conditioning that's being put onto the people of today, there'd be no way for us to achieve such a dream, but the change must start with education, to where we begin to recondition our future children into the understanding he's trying to bring. This is a long journey, & there will be many times where things will get rough, & maybe violent, but the dream, itself, is worth my life fighting for.
. "...but the dream, itself, is worth my life fighting for.." Lovely! I can't think of anything more worthwhile, apart from all the daily shit we're stuck with now, all the important Stuff To Do.
And we're distracted with entertainment; TV and now the 'net. Maybe I should stop reading comments, eh? :) Education is key, yes. E.g. in countries where women are educated they marry later & have far fewer children
@queenastilon I agree. I just hope that as the economy gets worse & worse people will begin to ask more questions, and look for alternative solutions, and that we will use that misfortune as an opportunity for change, rather than roll over & just do whatever the 'government' suggests, and smile & nod at the first promise to 'fix it.'
OMGod, what the government suggests = likely to be useless or harmful
The more I think about all this, particularly after seeing Zeitgeist, the more it comes together.
Like the Mad Cow disease scare (possibly caused by a neurotoxin the govt. forced to be applied to the necks of all British cows, even organic, to kill a relatively harmless parasite); The result? Small independent farmers out of business, leaving food production more firmly in the hands of corporate farming.
And also.. you wouln't go gambling with your money, because you can loose them easily. And investiment is a safer way to keep the money and make more... then Why would you let anyone else choose where your money should be invested to? Look what happened at the last big investement... people are out of jobs now.
So, I do hope bigger collapse commences. For the sake of change.
I'm only sad that this ressesion, although aid to be very deep, was not deep enough to make that radical change in everyones thinking.
Why don't we all stack our wages to pockets and socks, like many people did untill bank accounts became for all to use? - that way banks can't manipulate on our earnings.. I think many people think: hey, bus someone can steal from my home everythijng I have... BUT they can steal by chance, whereas they KNOW the money is in bank.
I wanted just to comment on your statement, that Jefferson wanted to make every man equal... Did he after the Declaration of Independance was signed go to the slaves and shake their hands saying: "You are fee now, we are all equal!"? I think he had some different equality in mind and maybe even thought slavery was a comodity that was not about to change because that was the way it was, just like we can't imagine getting rid of cash...
By the way did anyone notice that woman in the red when she asked about what do you think happens when we die at 7:00 she looks devastated after Jacque's response.
Thanks for uploading this great and inspirational lecture, it has vhanged my way of thinking! and i plan on continuing studying jacque and the venus project.
This is the NWO we need...a NWO that is governed by ALL the people and not by the puppets. I can see this manifest as soon as we get rid of the corrupt scumbags. It is only us that can change the future of our children for the better...it will not be them.
Well, the only way to 'get rid of the corrupt scumbags' is to eliminate money and barter. Once that is done, you don't need to worry about scumbags and we can begin building a cybernated government.
@Seabrali very ttrue but they will oppose us violently....i have that feeling, we might have to collectively wage war againstthem, like a full scale human uprising against the known enemies, and this is after well done research so we know who we are going after. it would be a good way to start the society, defeating them through our knowledge over there brute force, a lesson for our children and forever on
@intheevening Exactly, we need to eliminate the DISEASE, not the SYMPTOMS. We could eliminate some symptoms, but if the disease is still there, new symptoms will keep arising infinitely.
I advised a group of physicists on a physics forum debate a few years ago that Metaphysics is as much a tool for them as it is to philosophy, especially for theoretical physics, but it seems as if they did not believe me. Anyway, what really matters here is the fact that Metaphysics is a tool of philosophy for disambiguating all terms of reality and does not make any extra-physical claims about reality.
This set of 13 lectures by JF should be made available without any copyright restrictions. Why? Because the lectures are unique and have universal importance. They are so universally significant that they will shape, frame and guide Sustainable Designs of every conceivable nature. Above all, they will make 'Nomadic Sustainability' for the first time conceptually and actually possible.
Well the video is available to watch for free. However, someone copied part 12 of this lecture and reposted it on youtube as "Worst man in the world" and mislabeled it with a bunch of new world order junk tags, so I'd like to avoid misuse like that. If you'd like another version of this lecture for distribution let me know. I don't have any experience with making torrents, but I could put the whole lecture into one file.
Thanks for clearing that up. Sorry to hear about what was done to part 12 of the lecture. I am currently working on a number of Sustainability Research Projects and I am planning to use the complete set of 13 lectures on one of my websites currently under construction to spread the word. So I will be in touch soon, Thanks.
An honest and caring man with true empathy would never force anything against your will.
Now to say some more things about nature. Notice how we call the carbon cycle and the forces of the universe "nature", it is because we cannot explain them. BUT scientists are aware of this and they do say that they do not know, and they are hoping that one day they will do. Ignorant people say "nature is the way", but unlike scientists they do not ever propose that we should find a reason.
If anyone claims that things are because that is the way they are and give no reason and do not have the humbleness to say they don't know, then those people are either religious zealots trying to indoctrinate you, corrupt poiliticians who want to manipulate you, people who conform to a higher authority and carry out what they are told, or are people in general who want to harm you. Also, the reason they give must be logical. Let's get this cleared up.
When do scientist ever say things such as: "That's the way things are", "That is the nature of it", or "It is metaphysical". Scientists never say such things, they either say: "I know and I can prove it", "I don't know but I have a theory", or "I DON'T KNOW'. If a scientist doesn't understand something, he never says "That's the nature of it", he says "I don't know!". So what's all this bs about nature or metaphysics. An honest person would much rahter say I don't know than claim it's nature.
I love it when he says: "I want to believe that there is something extraphysical, it is just that I have never encountered anything like that." So true, all these people talk about metaphysics, but do they ever question if anything metaphysical ACTUALLY ever happened? And if it did happen, what if we just don't have enough information to understand it? Did you ever consider that??? Only religious or corrupt people argue with metaphysics since they cannot give reason, so they rely on authority.
This is not an opinion. These are not ideas. You can argue all you want, but when it comes down to it, everything expressed here can scientifically be proved as fact, absolute truth. Everyone eventually reaches this conclusion, and once you do...well, the only the TO do from their is improve upon the emerging society.
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You propose the Venus Project which is replacing one god for another. Your "new and improved" society is just a rehash of Soviet Communism with a few added bells and whistle. These ideas arent fresh, they are the same crap that college kids have been yapping about for decades while refilling their bongs. This is basically a computer generated version of the same crap that Marx was spewing. By all means change yourself..I just got done telling you our govt. is growing out of control. Change That!
The Venus Project is in NO WAY a "rehash of Soviet Communism." The reasons that system failed is because they still relied on money, a system of exchange in which people can gain differential advantage over others. The system had no technical approach of how to raise the standard of living for all people, especially since they relied on exploiting human labor and trade with foreign nations using money. Jacque proposes that machines replace all mindless labor, and are used to arrive at decisions
So instead of Soviet totaitarianism, VP wouls institute a totalitarian system based on machines, that would "serve us". Thats much better. Go spend some time down at the DMV watching what goes on there. There is no technical way to raise the standard of living short of redistributing wealth, making everyone equal in servitude to the state or "machines", while the conservative ideal of say Lincoln or Jefferson was to make all men equal in opportunity. You have as much opportunity as the next guy.
The Venus Project does not propose any subservience to anything, including machines. No one will be forced to do anything to survive. If you listen to Jacque's lecture he explains at length why we do not have equal opportunity in a monetary system. Social stratification, inherited wealth, luck, and exploitation and psychological manipulation of others completely negate this argument. Someone born into a culture of poverty does not have the same opportunity as someone born to rich parents.
You say that there is no equality, but in America there is equality in freedoms and oppotunies. Look @ Sean Combes or Russel Simmons. Steve Jobs and Bill Gates. Who's stopping someone from creating their own wealth? But back to your machines which will serve us and make our decisions for us: What if I don't like the machine's decision? Also...Describe these machines in detail. Where are they? Who built them? What do they look like? What do they do? "Machines will..." means Nothing.
Thankyou for your kind words anonymity11, it's refreshing to hear such distillation of thought and really incisive opinion is the hallmark of wit.
Your brilliant reparte has changed my mind completely about Venusians. Maybe someone as brilliant as you could answer the questions I asked the owner of this video directly above. Describe the machines. Since they will do everything for us, should we assume they will also build themselves(eventually)? May your description ease your disgust.
I don't like to be labelled as anything (Venusian, communist, technocrat, terrorist, retard, radicalist...etc). Ok :). Now about the machines. I don't know why it is "the" machines. There is nothing "the" about them, they are just expansions of human attributes, as Peter Joseph I think put it. In my opinion I do not propose that machines would ever excel us. We build machnes to help our lives, they will have no cognitive ability. Jacques just says that to argue for the uselessness of politicians
Jacques says that the planet needs to be managed by scientifically distributing resources, not by politicians, with the help of machines. Since computer programs do not lie or go corrupt then there will be no problems. Also technology frees man. Man of course will build the technology and the technology will not make decisions. They will have artificial intelligence of course but it will not exceed their programming. Just like a pc today, not complicated. Stop thinking in "Terminator".
Ironically, thats what you did to me. You labeled me "..such an ignorant moron" that I disgust you. Think about it. So you want to dismantle our civilization but you have no alternative but imaginary machines that will be extentions of our selves, and scientific management of government. That really sounds romantic. I wonder what "program" will decide the fate of the terminally ill. Just like the DMV computer decided how long to revoke my license.
There's nothing ironic about anything. I did not label you, I called you ignorant, which you are. It is not the same as what I was reffering to. How does thinking scientifically sound romantic? Sounds like very straight thinking. If it may be achievable is a different story, but you are not making any efforts. I just hope people like you die so you can stop stalling civilization's progress.
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No, right now we need to pay attention to what our government is doing while we bicker about VP. You want to help build a system of Total government control? What kind of toilet paper, phone, clothes, vehicle, food etc...That's the Islamic Calphate. Only without the praying 5 times a day. Our government is taking over more and more of our economy, and now our bodies. Before they own us completely we have to check the uncontrolled growth of the current bureaucracy. You want More govt control? NO.
That experiment was tried. It failed. Every single point of it by the Soviets. Understand that I'm not talking out of my hat. I lived it. Paradise doesnt exist, nor will it ever. Its not working in Cuba, Venezuela, China, PRK...They drive cars from the 50s in Cuba. Do you know that? I dont want to decide whats best for everyone on the planet, and I dont want someone deciding whats best for me. We already have too much government. VP is total government control. Let's fix the system we have now.
I'm sorry but this system has absolutely nothing in common with communism or socialism. The Venus Project seeks to completely eliminate human government, laws, prisons, and money. You should really do some more research because the Venus Project is NOT total government control, whatsoever. It proposes a system to phase out all human government, police and laws by providing resources and scientific education for all people. No one would/could be controlled or monitored.
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I've watched zeitgiest, it sounds like a 3am stoner's digression while packing a bong. This scientific approach dooms us. There will be no more Salks, Jarviks, or Einsteins, because your system removes any and all incentive to achieve or excel. You want to eliminate money, barter, value and achievement and replace them with machines. Machines dont invent, entrepeneurs do. You want to see what happens when you take away incentive? Look to socialism. Kiss research and developement goodbye.
Seabrali... I've noticed that I'm not the only one who just ends up saying "you should really do some more research..." LOL. Sadly, most people who get on YouTube (or any forum) and argue against TVP or TZM in general have done no such thing. Those that are not so hostile & maybe less ignorant are at least willing to do so once I suggest it. I'm so tired of hearing the same old elementary arguments that are so clearly addressed in the The Venus Project website FAQ! Hit us with something new! =)
No it wasn't "tried" - everything tried in all of history was still within a MONETARY SYSTEM. And before you say removing money removes incentive, read all of the FAQ's.
This is the equivalent of standing down a tank in Tienemen Square. Fucking Ghandi reincarnated(I forgot, atheists dont believe in that)! Bravo Fresco...BRAVO! So Brave...after taming this hostile crowd, I think he should lecture at Al Azar Univesity, Tehran University, and maybe Pyongyang.
But seriously, why not try this "project" out in Sudan, Burma or Congo before we push it on the whole world? Lets see him(or Any of you atheists) go tell the ayatollahs in Tehran he's "Their Friend".
Nothing is going to be "pushed" on anyone. Blindly labeling him as an atheist as it is a bad thing does not do justice to his concepts without considering his scientific background and all of the humane work he has done for people. Trying this out anywhere would be nice, but the people have to become interested in the ideas themselves without distorting them into an exploitative system.
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I didn't label him an atheist, even though he rails against religion. I've been insulted and reviled by professed atheists on every video this man is on. I wouldn't even be here if an atheist hadn't sent this video to me. I have no interest. If "zeitgiest" is anything like it's proponents, it will be worse than Soviet socialism. I don't foist my moralities on anyone, but that's not stopping those who follow his ideology from foisting their's on me. Let him, and them tell it to the Ayatollahs.
Alright? No one's 'foisting' anything on anyone. This project is not a morality, it's a blueprint for physical change of environment. Simply saying "tell it to the Ayatollahs" does nothing. Many cultures will be resistant to this change if it does not coincide with the established value system of that culture. That said, when social scientists try to work out a means of communication, they can establish common ground by the need for "clean air, clean water, and a relevant education."
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And so taken to it's logical conclusion, the State(in this case the "project") will determine which rights are granted and which are forfeit based on expedience. They will determine what a "relevant education" consists of and what is approved or not. Under the guise of "public good" and "clean air" groups like Sierra Club already exert power and infringe my civil rights. I said, this will be worse than Soviet Socialism. Moves towards statism have been pushed back worldwide, and for good reason.
NO ONE will dictate the behavior of other people! This project will arrise out of the work of volunteers who agree with the aims of the Venus Project, which is why the Venus Project does not appeal to politicians or established governments, it is a 'grass-roots' movement. There will never be a "leader" of the Zeitgeist Movement telling you what you can or cannot have. There will be no monitoring of people whatsoever, just a gradual production of abundance which will render governments obsolete.
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No, you said machines will dictate. Thats much better. I suggest you Venusians go to Somalia or some little African country and start the ball rolling. Let's see how well this project works without the benefit of cannibalizing existing civil society's resources and assets. Our time is better spent dealing with the reality of the world we live in. You want to create a new world? Do it on Venus. Have at it. You Venusians have spaceships right? No? Well get some volunteers together and build them.
I did NOT say machines will dictate human behavior. Machines assist us in arriving at scientific conclusions. Would you say a compass is dictating? This project is not "cannibalizing" anything, just building out of what we have now. What we have now is 'cannibalizing' the world's resources. The Venus Project is open to go anywhere, but if a country is a warzone there will be very little interest by those in control.
I see that this discussion is 7 months old, so if you havent alrdy, please go2 The Venus Project website, click on the FAQ, n read questions 70, 71, & 77. These are in direct response 2ur claim that "our" system "removes any n all incentive 2achieve or excel." Quite the contrary. "Our time is better spent 'dealing w/the reality' of the world we live in?" Wow. So in other words "accept" our problems rather than solve them. How would u describe this mindset? N ur worried TVP will breed laziness???
He theorised that, but he didn't use it in his theory of socialism. Actually, if you look at the "10 conditions for Socialism" the United States and many other countries fulfill them almost seamlessly.
Yeah, they are also the culmination of the best of religious teachings, philosophy, and science applied directly to the social system. His rationale comes more from the study of semantics and scientific problem solving than from "socialism." What the Venus Project proposes goes far beyond "socialism" in almost every way. Rather than an ideology, they propose a blueprint for physical change of the environments which shape behavior. :)
wow Great lecture! I believe in most of what Fresco is saying, though God has yet to be Proved or disproved (I think that why he is open about it) so I chose to believe that there is more to us then just life on earth. (the reasons for this are long to explain on youtube...)
If everyone could be educated through this mindset, it would truely bring peace. I have been conditioned into different environments but I have had enough logical reasoned conditioning that makes me believe in his visions. He speaks the truth. But of course we should look at each other as ONE entity. We are all interconnected. We are ONE, not I. Language has contributed tosuch problems. One = We, We = One. we have to stay in that mindset. its perfect.
Yes there's no magnetic wheels that turn on their own. You posted a video which answers you question. The wheel is turning because its creator has positioned magnets on the arm above the wheel to generate magnetic opposition...are u stupid or something KindaGamey??
And yet I'm still learning the likely truths that he brings forth, even though I already know what he talks about, and even though I didn't bring it up, or hear anyone else bring it up. I thought about new things watching this again. Now, as far as abiding by a coherent lecture structure by ending with a strict Q&A, Fresco did kind of fail there. But what purpose does it serve to end a comment on that note? All it does is leave confusion and irritation, not inspiration. Go farther in your life.
similar to if your body functioning with it's various parts but ultimately come together to make you the person you are. Our society is blanketed with such randomness and static right now that we can't function together as a society. We fight and bleed the same colors but it doesn't matter because we're being ran by a select few in higher places that only know how to dominate by force. Information is dying to be free, music, art, & creativity is dying to be free for everyone to enjoy. Thx again.
Thanks for the wonderful videos Seabrali. They are definitely inspirational. I like how he talks about us dying and decomposing. When you think about us consuming so much from the earth it's only appropriate that we give back in the form of feeding insects, rodents, and other animals. I always tell my family I'd rather be cremated and released somewhere. Your body will become a part of the air, earth, and everything in between. If you truly believe in this system you function as one. It's very
Great job on posting the speech man, much appreciated! The future looks bright, only if we can come together and alter our collective consciousness to a new understanding of well-being.
jacque is great and it's fantastic that the internet exists today to spread his ideas and anyone else's ideas for that matter. i'm looking forward to learning more.
@FollowDaRulez Exactly! It is a disease of attitudes and behaviors. Talk with friends and family and help them relearn. It is our greatest hope.
rockerdc 7 months ago
Love this lecture. it reveals the fraud of scarcity the capitalist system imposes on us. It is outdated and no longer useful. I feel more compassion and sadness that the people running this world are trapped in their own sick ways. Fresco is a great speaker, he inspires this feeling as opposed to feeling outrage and anger. What a sober and inspiring plan. I'm in!
rockerdc 7 months ago
Watching it on further, some of the people forget that these decisions in the future will be put to practice, tests, hypothesis, and adjustments amongst many. There's probably millions of engineers, but fractions working for separate governments. If they work together, no one person's work on bad choices will be approved or set into factual detail. Heck, the technology may itself deny the decision error. This Venus Project actually makes more and more sense if you watch the video more than once
enlighteneveryone 10 months ago
Education is the key to peace, love, and happiness but most people in the world have the "ignorance is bliss" attitude...
I do love his vision and dedication but people do not want to be educated. It's easier to discover something like flying or sending someone to the Moon and change their minds than trying to take away people's opinions to change their minds.
Stryc9Nine 10 months ago
He was just avoiding what he believes when he dies and just stated a fact of reality when he dies his body would decompose and be transferred I to another element so no he didn't break his own logic what happens to his mind that he doesn't know
711Daniels 1 year ago
@711Daniels What he said is the miracle of eternal life. It is right there for you. take a steel ball and expose to high temperatures and it turns into energy. It cannot be destroyed and it cannot be created. Humans are obsessed with human visions of eternity and salvation in an "after life"...i like this one better. It means you have and always have been a part of everything. He isn't avoiding anything...human religions are human centered and they are narrow.
rockerdc 7 months ago
How does Jacque know what happens or does not happen at death, has he die before ? Would an honest answer be I don't know what exactly happens at death for certain, I have not experienced death yet > Do you understand what I am sayin'.....
THATS WHAT YOU CALL getting OWNED Fresco, by your own words too.. Pass this on 2 him, as I'm sure he'll be very impressed I just exposed the most critical error of his logic.....
AudioTruther 1 year ago
@AudioTruther
Are you serious or is this a interesting joke :D ?
DexVil 10 months ago
Can anyone imagine the world that would be created if Jacque Fresco got together with John Searl?
rarosera 1 year ago
Guys with facebook we can help get the message across as well. If everyone would post and re-post make groups about this I am sure the word would spread. Since the media won't help we might as well use what we have! Be pro-active and make a difference!
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For anyone that doubts this can or will happen, please research "technological unemployment" and its effect on purchasing power.
Then clear the dust off your old economics 101 book and re-read the chapter on Scarcity and value.
Icemario87 1 year ago
@Icemario87 What do you think of as "economics"?
alanpgoodwin 4 months ago
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Icemario87 1 year ago
I love how he barely holds the microphone to his mouth throughout the whole thing
06stephend 1 year ago
whatd he say at the very end?
44eelz 1 year ago
Unfortunately a civilization like this won't be possible until after a WW3...
twistedfool420 1 year ago
@twistedfool420 If we do have a WW3, we will probably all die. Unless it's between people of the future who have no weapons of mass destruction.
06stephend 1 year ago
Thank you for this video
med6105 1 year ago
Bravo =D
juanmora19910209 1 year ago
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The best thing for people to do to help The Zeitgeist Movement and The Venus Project is to just start telling people, friends, coworkers strangers etc. and have them watch all the information on line. That is the best thing to do RIGHT NOW!!!! Educate people! Telling no one is the WORST thing you can do.
BrentAltonNally 1 year ago
this man is a genius and should be taken more seriously by the powers that be
davyboy696 1 year ago
Why stress the Venus Project when it will only scare people away and put praise in your abilities to see the future way.... relax and focus on the good of the moneyless way and the benefits to human worth and start with the beginning movement.
rickynewyork1 1 year ago
Haha! As expected Jacque also has a bit o James Randi in himself! :D I love this man! :3
PDzero 1 year ago
thank you jf. You don't just deserve respect but the false placement of religous reverance that people cling to. An inspiration. A leader, and a fantastic mind. My ambition is to spread your message and to align with your worldly evaluation of perception and understanding. I hope for the freedom you discuss. I will work to escape this distopia. I love your lifes work, thankyou.
TheAlteredState 1 year ago
Have you read every single question and answer on The Venus Project website FAQ? All one hundred and four (so far)? Until then, don't label it as anything, especially socialism, because you don't know what you're talking about. It explains in plain English how it is significantly different.
OMGodBecky 2 years ago
omg how profound, I never thought of it that way... that some people would litereally "rather die than change..." SO SAD! and so true... :(
OMGodBecky 2 years ago
this guy is so ahead of his time... its ashame he wont get to see the fruitation of his work... hes 93
sixxdegree 2 years ago 3
i don't think that the natural order of things would allow this future to happen. i really hope I'm wrong
Nibulis 2 years ago
What do you mean by the 'natural order'? The way of Nature has wisdom to it - such natural wisdom is evinced in the 'smart' behaviour of your cells and in the 'smart' behaviour of the biosphere. I reckon there is a kind of 'current' to this wise flowing/growing way of Nature, a current that we can sense and attempt to 'fit in' with, or go with. If/when we do, then the essential direction of the TVP will be facilitated. Naturally. Homeostasis of one kind or another saturates the web of life.
psybinetic 2 years ago
very interesting i will have to consider this
Nibulis 2 years ago
"Natural order of things," like what? And what do you mean by 'natural wisdom'? Storms happen and destroy everything in their path. Nature isn't 'smart.' It happens and sometimes it works (what 'works' interpreted by us.)
Seabrali 2 years ago
Like your body - 50 trillion cells orchestrated into a working whole - that is very smart. The biomimicry/bioneer movement defines itself as the "conscious emulation of Nature's genius". The biochemist Leslie Orgel spoke of evolution being "smarter than we are". David Attenborough often talks of 'clever' and 'ingenious' biological behaviour. Is more than metaphor. Nature may be indifferent and non-conscious but is, in terms of its constructive power in the bio-logical domain, certainly 'smart'.
psybinetic 2 years ago
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t3hpez 2 years ago
ok thanks for posting m8 spread the word :) peace
2dubstep5 2 years ago 2
Thanks for posting these seabrali, I just got through watching all 13, and I cant remember when I enjoyed watching something so much. I could listen to JF all night and cant possibly think of any questions to ask him myself because I see the truth of it , as plain as day.
After Zeitgeist I resolved to eschew patriotism, and nationalism, will never vote again, and am currently spreading the word.
BradBrassman 2 years ago 25
in 200 years people will look back at these videos as archives. they will look at him the way we look back on ben franklin or george washington now, and they will have someone to truly honor. and thank for there peaceful wonderful way of life. or we wont be here in 200 years because we blew ourselves up. its time to choose.
runarmyof1 2 years ago 5
I hope you're right runarmyof1, I hope you're right. Though, for this all to happen, first thing that must be done is that we must become the change we want to see become of the world. Only then will we be able to gain the understanding of what is next to come through our advancement of, not as humans, not as animals, & not as nature, but as earthlings; all that lives within this planet we call Earth.
theanarchist16 2 years ago
theanarchist, you've highlighted a problem there, about us first needing to change. In another similar lecture, I've heard JF say that we, individuals as we are now, with our conditioning, will not fit in this new society. It's a sobering thought.
He talks about re-educating soldiers to be (e.g.) part of an environmental healing task force, but that supposes that this new society suddenly appears. I don't think it can. I fear, as JF does, that the transition must be painful
queenastilon 2 years ago
you're right about how JF has said that, with the conditioning that's being put onto the people of today, there'd be no way for us to achieve such a dream, but the change must start with education, to where we begin to recondition our future children into the understanding he's trying to bring. This is a long journey, & there will be many times where things will get rough, & maybe violent, but the dream, itself, is worth my life fighting for.
theanarchist16 2 years ago 2
theanarchist,
. "...but the dream, itself, is worth my life fighting for.." Lovely! I can't think of anything more worthwhile, apart from all the daily shit we're stuck with now, all the important Stuff To Do.
And we're distracted with entertainment; TV and now the 'net. Maybe I should stop reading comments, eh? :) Education is key, yes. E.g. in countries where women are educated they marry later & have far fewer children
No one listens to me but I wish you success
queenastilon 2 years ago
@queenastilon I agree. I just hope that as the economy gets worse & worse people will begin to ask more questions, and look for alternative solutions, and that we will use that misfortune as an opportunity for change, rather than roll over & just do whatever the 'government' suggests, and smile & nod at the first promise to 'fix it.'
OMGodBecky 2 years ago
OMGod, what the government suggests = likely to be useless or harmful
The more I think about all this, particularly after seeing Zeitgeist, the more it comes together.
Like the Mad Cow disease scare (possibly caused by a neurotoxin the govt. forced to be applied to the necks of all British cows, even organic, to kill a relatively harmless parasite); The result? Small independent farmers out of business, leaving food production more firmly in the hands of corporate farming.
queenastilon 2 years ago
lol, so true (useless or harmful)
OMGodBecky 2 years ago
Mostly young minds who have barley experienced life, give their blind and judgmental opinions. I hope he got to someone that day in the room.
mediarules123 2 years ago 2
just to clear.. the last couple of comments were not addressed to anyone in particular, just random thoughts :)
TheLorite 2 years ago
And also.. you wouln't go gambling with your money, because you can loose them easily. And investiment is a safer way to keep the money and make more... then Why would you let anyone else choose where your money should be invested to? Look what happened at the last big investement... people are out of jobs now.
So, I do hope bigger collapse commences. For the sake of change.
TheLorite 2 years ago
and I t hink VP is great.
I'm only sad that this ressesion, although aid to be very deep, was not deep enough to make that radical change in everyones thinking.
Why don't we all stack our wages to pockets and socks, like many people did untill bank accounts became for all to use? - that way banks can't manipulate on our earnings.. I think many people think: hey, bus someone can steal from my home everythijng I have... BUT they can steal by chance, whereas they KNOW the money is in bank.
TheLorite 2 years ago
Thank you for the video.
To wideawake123:
I wanted just to comment on your statement, that Jefferson wanted to make every man equal... Did he after the Declaration of Independance was signed go to the slaves and shake their hands saying: "You are fee now, we are all equal!"? I think he had some different equality in mind and maybe even thought slavery was a comodity that was not about to change because that was the way it was, just like we can't imagine getting rid of cash...
TheLorite 2 years ago
we could make it happen, we have the power, you and I !
sdara357 2 years ago 4
Awsome videos thanks seabrali.
By the way did anyone notice that woman in the red when she asked about what do you think happens when we die at 7:00 she looks devastated after Jacque's response.
Peteysweety 2 years ago 2
lol yea ;)
2dubstep5 2 years ago
I like his way of thinking, that is the way humanity can evolve, in a group community not as individuals
he reminds me a lot of george carlin and bill hicks
ElSAVALDORfunes 2 years ago 3
I hope I live long enough to see this happen one day.
jcknight87 2 years ago 2
Thanks for uploading this great and inspirational lecture, it has vhanged my way of thinking! and i plan on continuing studying jacque and the venus project.
masterofmanliness 2 years ago 18
This is the NWO we need...a NWO that is governed by ALL the people and not by the puppets. I can see this manifest as soon as we get rid of the corrupt scumbags. It is only us that can change the future of our children for the better...it will not be them.
younitehumanity 2 years ago 16
Well, the only way to 'get rid of the corrupt scumbags' is to eliminate money and barter. Once that is done, you don't need to worry about scumbags and we can begin building a cybernated government.
Seabrali 2 years ago 10
@Seabrali very ttrue but they will oppose us violently....i have that feeling, we might have to collectively wage war againstthem, like a full scale human uprising against the known enemies, and this is after well done research so we know who we are going after. it would be a good way to start the society, defeating them through our knowledge over there brute force, a lesson for our children and forever on
maidenkid84 1 year ago
@Seabrali the point everyone seems to miss is that we need to eliminate the root cause of unacceptable behavior not punish. its just efficient.
intheevening 1 year ago
@intheevening Exactly, we need to eliminate the DISEASE, not the SYMPTOMS. We could eliminate some symptoms, but if the disease is still there, new symptoms will keep arising infinitely.
erasmusso 8 months ago
@younitehumanity "corrupt scumbags". Its a good idea not to judge people. Spread the word instead.
lolcoxbot 1 year ago
@younitehumanity Rember there not scumb bags just ignorant minds that haven't been educated.
TheMidwestsk8ter 1 year ago
Thank You!
Jo87se 2 years ago
Thank you
RuiFranciscoVieira 2 years ago
i just finished watching the entire interview
woww
i'm a new man
trevfrank 2 years ago 3
wow ,we could have this, and the mindset would change to follow it envirioment.i think ?
cornishrob123 2 years ago
I advised a group of physicists on a physics forum debate a few years ago that Metaphysics is as much a tool for them as it is to philosophy, especially for theoretical physics, but it seems as if they did not believe me. Anyway, what really matters here is the fact that Metaphysics is a tool of philosophy for disambiguating all terms of reality and does not make any extra-physical claims about reality.
philocratmusic 2 years ago
This set of 13 lectures by JF should be made available without any copyright restrictions. Why? Because the lectures are unique and have universal importance. They are so universally significant that they will shape, frame and guide Sustainable Designs of every conceivable nature. Above all, they will make 'Nomadic Sustainability' for the first time conceptually and actually possible.
philocratmusic 2 years ago
Well the video is available to watch for free. However, someone copied part 12 of this lecture and reposted it on youtube as "Worst man in the world" and mislabeled it with a bunch of new world order junk tags, so I'd like to avoid misuse like that. If you'd like another version of this lecture for distribution let me know. I don't have any experience with making torrents, but I could put the whole lecture into one file.
Seabrali 2 years ago
Thanks for clearing that up. Sorry to hear about what was done to part 12 of the lecture. I am currently working on a number of Sustainability Research Projects and I am planning to use the complete set of 13 lectures on one of my websites currently under construction to spread the word. So I will be in touch soon, Thanks.
philocratmusic 2 years ago 2
Sure, just fyi a fully subtitled (English) dvd torrent will soon be available for download. I'm almost finished. :)
Seabrali 2 years ago
An honest and caring man with true empathy would never force anything against your will.
Now to say some more things about nature. Notice how we call the carbon cycle and the forces of the universe "nature", it is because we cannot explain them. BUT scientists are aware of this and they do say that they do not know, and they are hoping that one day they will do. Ignorant people say "nature is the way", but unlike scientists they do not ever propose that we should find a reason.
anonymity11 2 years ago
If anyone claims that things are because that is the way they are and give no reason and do not have the humbleness to say they don't know, then those people are either religious zealots trying to indoctrinate you, corrupt poiliticians who want to manipulate you, people who conform to a higher authority and carry out what they are told, or are people in general who want to harm you. Also, the reason they give must be logical. Let's get this cleared up.
anonymity11 2 years ago
When do scientist ever say things such as: "That's the way things are", "That is the nature of it", or "It is metaphysical". Scientists never say such things, they either say: "I know and I can prove it", "I don't know but I have a theory", or "I DON'T KNOW'. If a scientist doesn't understand something, he never says "That's the nature of it", he says "I don't know!". So what's all this bs about nature or metaphysics. An honest person would much rahter say I don't know than claim it's nature.
anonymity11 2 years ago
I love it when he says: "I want to believe that there is something extraphysical, it is just that I have never encountered anything like that." So true, all these people talk about metaphysics, but do they ever question if anything metaphysical ACTUALLY ever happened? And if it did happen, what if we just don't have enough information to understand it? Did you ever consider that??? Only religious or corrupt people argue with metaphysics since they cannot give reason, so they rely on authority.
anonymity11 2 years ago
This is not an opinion. These are not ideas. You can argue all you want, but when it comes down to it, everything expressed here can scientifically be proved as fact, absolute truth. Everyone eventually reaches this conclusion, and once you do...well, the only the TO do from their is improve upon the emerging society.
CCDDR 2 years ago
This concludes our discussion. Thanks for sharing your opinion.
wideawake123 2 years ago
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You propose the Venus Project which is replacing one god for another. Your "new and improved" society is just a rehash of Soviet Communism with a few added bells and whistle. These ideas arent fresh, they are the same crap that college kids have been yapping about for decades while refilling their bongs. This is basically a computer generated version of the same crap that Marx was spewing. By all means change yourself..I just got done telling you our govt. is growing out of control. Change That!
wideawake123 2 years ago
The Venus Project is in NO WAY a "rehash of Soviet Communism." The reasons that system failed is because they still relied on money, a system of exchange in which people can gain differential advantage over others. The system had no technical approach of how to raise the standard of living for all people, especially since they relied on exploiting human labor and trade with foreign nations using money. Jacque proposes that machines replace all mindless labor, and are used to arrive at decisions
Seabrali 2 years ago
So instead of Soviet totaitarianism, VP wouls institute a totalitarian system based on machines, that would "serve us". Thats much better. Go spend some time down at the DMV watching what goes on there. There is no technical way to raise the standard of living short of redistributing wealth, making everyone equal in servitude to the state or "machines", while the conservative ideal of say Lincoln or Jefferson was to make all men equal in opportunity. You have as much opportunity as the next guy.
wideawake123 2 years ago
The Venus Project does not propose any subservience to anything, including machines. No one will be forced to do anything to survive. If you listen to Jacque's lecture he explains at length why we do not have equal opportunity in a monetary system. Social stratification, inherited wealth, luck, and exploitation and psychological manipulation of others completely negate this argument. Someone born into a culture of poverty does not have the same opportunity as someone born to rich parents.
Seabrali 2 years ago
You say that there is no equality, but in America there is equality in freedoms and oppotunies. Look @ Sean Combes or Russel Simmons. Steve Jobs and Bill Gates. Who's stopping someone from creating their own wealth? But back to your machines which will serve us and make our decisions for us: What if I don't like the machine's decision? Also...Describe these machines in detail. Where are they? Who built them? What do they look like? What do they do? "Machines will..." means Nothing.
wideawake123 2 years ago
wideawake123, you're such an ignorant moron that it disgusts me to even read what you wrote.
anonymity11 2 years ago 3
Thankyou for your kind words anonymity11, it's refreshing to hear such distillation of thought and really incisive opinion is the hallmark of wit.
Your brilliant reparte has changed my mind completely about Venusians. Maybe someone as brilliant as you could answer the questions I asked the owner of this video directly above. Describe the machines. Since they will do everything for us, should we assume they will also build themselves(eventually)? May your description ease your disgust.
wideawake123 2 years ago
I don't like to be labelled as anything (Venusian, communist, technocrat, terrorist, retard, radicalist...etc). Ok :). Now about the machines. I don't know why it is "the" machines. There is nothing "the" about them, they are just expansions of human attributes, as Peter Joseph I think put it. In my opinion I do not propose that machines would ever excel us. We build machnes to help our lives, they will have no cognitive ability. Jacques just says that to argue for the uselessness of politicians
anonymity11 2 years ago
Jacques says that the planet needs to be managed by scientifically distributing resources, not by politicians, with the help of machines. Since computer programs do not lie or go corrupt then there will be no problems. Also technology frees man. Man of course will build the technology and the technology will not make decisions. They will have artificial intelligence of course but it will not exceed their programming. Just like a pc today, not complicated. Stop thinking in "Terminator".
anonymity11 2 years ago
"I dont like to be labeled as anything."
Ironically, thats what you did to me. You labeled me "..such an ignorant moron" that I disgust you. Think about it. So you want to dismantle our civilization but you have no alternative but imaginary machines that will be extentions of our selves, and scientific management of government. That really sounds romantic. I wonder what "program" will decide the fate of the terminally ill. Just like the DMV computer decided how long to revoke my license.
wideawake123 2 years ago
There's nothing ironic about anything. I did not label you, I called you ignorant, which you are. It is not the same as what I was reffering to. How does thinking scientifically sound romantic? Sounds like very straight thinking. If it may be achievable is a different story, but you are not making any efforts. I just hope people like you die so you can stop stalling civilization's progress.
anonymity11 2 years ago
Whatever dude...have a nice day.
wideawake123 2 years ago
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No, right now we need to pay attention to what our government is doing while we bicker about VP. You want to help build a system of Total government control? What kind of toilet paper, phone, clothes, vehicle, food etc...That's the Islamic Calphate. Only without the praying 5 times a day. Our government is taking over more and more of our economy, and now our bodies. Before they own us completely we have to check the uncontrolled growth of the current bureaucracy. You want More govt control? NO.
wideawake123 2 years ago
That experiment was tried. It failed. Every single point of it by the Soviets. Understand that I'm not talking out of my hat. I lived it. Paradise doesnt exist, nor will it ever. Its not working in Cuba, Venezuela, China, PRK...They drive cars from the 50s in Cuba. Do you know that? I dont want to decide whats best for everyone on the planet, and I dont want someone deciding whats best for me. We already have too much government. VP is total government control. Let's fix the system we have now.
wideawake123 2 years ago
I'm sorry but this system has absolutely nothing in common with communism or socialism. The Venus Project seeks to completely eliminate human government, laws, prisons, and money. You should really do some more research because the Venus Project is NOT total government control, whatsoever. It proposes a system to phase out all human government, police and laws by providing resources and scientific education for all people. No one would/could be controlled or monitored.
Seabrali 2 years ago
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I've watched zeitgiest, it sounds like a 3am stoner's digression while packing a bong. This scientific approach dooms us. There will be no more Salks, Jarviks, or Einsteins, because your system removes any and all incentive to achieve or excel. You want to eliminate money, barter, value and achievement and replace them with machines. Machines dont invent, entrepeneurs do. You want to see what happens when you take away incentive? Look to socialism. Kiss research and developement goodbye.
wideawake123 2 years ago
Seabrali... I've noticed that I'm not the only one who just ends up saying "you should really do some more research..." LOL. Sadly, most people who get on YouTube (or any forum) and argue against TVP or TZM in general have done no such thing. Those that are not so hostile & maybe less ignorant are at least willing to do so once I suggest it. I'm so tired of hearing the same old elementary arguments that are so clearly addressed in the The Venus Project website FAQ! Hit us with something new! =)
OMGodBecky 2 years ago
No it wasn't "tried" - everything tried in all of history was still within a MONETARY SYSTEM. And before you say removing money removes incentive, read all of the FAQ's.
OMGodBecky 2 years ago
This is the equivalent of standing down a tank in Tienemen Square. Fucking Ghandi reincarnated(I forgot, atheists dont believe in that)! Bravo Fresco...BRAVO! So Brave...after taming this hostile crowd, I think he should lecture at Al Azar Univesity, Tehran University, and maybe Pyongyang.
But seriously, why not try this "project" out in Sudan, Burma or Congo before we push it on the whole world? Lets see him(or Any of you atheists) go tell the ayatollahs in Tehran he's "Their Friend".
wideawake123 2 years ago
Nothing is going to be "pushed" on anyone. Blindly labeling him as an atheist as it is a bad thing does not do justice to his concepts without considering his scientific background and all of the humane work he has done for people. Trying this out anywhere would be nice, but the people have to become interested in the ideas themselves without distorting them into an exploitative system.
Seabrali 2 years ago
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I didn't label him an atheist, even though he rails against religion. I've been insulted and reviled by professed atheists on every video this man is on. I wouldn't even be here if an atheist hadn't sent this video to me. I have no interest. If "zeitgiest" is anything like it's proponents, it will be worse than Soviet socialism. I don't foist my moralities on anyone, but that's not stopping those who follow his ideology from foisting their's on me. Let him, and them tell it to the Ayatollahs.
wideawake123 2 years ago
Alright? No one's 'foisting' anything on anyone. This project is not a morality, it's a blueprint for physical change of environment. Simply saying "tell it to the Ayatollahs" does nothing. Many cultures will be resistant to this change if it does not coincide with the established value system of that culture. That said, when social scientists try to work out a means of communication, they can establish common ground by the need for "clean air, clean water, and a relevant education."
Seabrali 2 years ago
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And so taken to it's logical conclusion, the State(in this case the "project") will determine which rights are granted and which are forfeit based on expedience. They will determine what a "relevant education" consists of and what is approved or not. Under the guise of "public good" and "clean air" groups like Sierra Club already exert power and infringe my civil rights. I said, this will be worse than Soviet Socialism. Moves towards statism have been pushed back worldwide, and for good reason.
wideawake123 2 years ago
NO ONE will dictate the behavior of other people! This project will arrise out of the work of volunteers who agree with the aims of the Venus Project, which is why the Venus Project does not appeal to politicians or established governments, it is a 'grass-roots' movement. There will never be a "leader" of the Zeitgeist Movement telling you what you can or cannot have. There will be no monitoring of people whatsoever, just a gradual production of abundance which will render governments obsolete.
Seabrali 2 years ago
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No, you said machines will dictate. Thats much better. I suggest you Venusians go to Somalia or some little African country and start the ball rolling. Let's see how well this project works without the benefit of cannibalizing existing civil society's resources and assets. Our time is better spent dealing with the reality of the world we live in. You want to create a new world? Do it on Venus. Have at it. You Venusians have spaceships right? No? Well get some volunteers together and build them.
wideawake123 2 years ago
I did NOT say machines will dictate human behavior. Machines assist us in arriving at scientific conclusions. Would you say a compass is dictating? This project is not "cannibalizing" anything, just building out of what we have now. What we have now is 'cannibalizing' the world's resources. The Venus Project is open to go anywhere, but if a country is a warzone there will be very little interest by those in control.
Seabrali 2 years ago
I see that this discussion is 7 months old, so if you havent alrdy, please go2 The Venus Project website, click on the FAQ, n read questions 70, 71, & 77. These are in direct response 2ur claim that "our" system "removes any n all incentive 2achieve or excel." Quite the contrary. "Our time is better spent 'dealing w/the reality' of the world we live in?" Wow. So in other words "accept" our problems rather than solve them. How would u describe this mindset? N ur worried TVP will breed laziness???
OMGodBecky 2 years ago
He theorised that, but he didn't use it in his theory of socialism. Actually, if you look at the "10 conditions for Socialism" the United States and many other countries fulfill them almost seamlessly.
We are socialist now.
brentoneccles 2 years ago
Well why don't you tell us why that is?
brentoneccles 2 years ago
Yeah, they are also the culmination of the best of religious teachings, philosophy, and science applied directly to the social system. His rationale comes more from the study of semantics and scientific problem solving than from "socialism." What the Venus Project proposes goes far beyond "socialism" in almost every way. Rather than an ideology, they propose a blueprint for physical change of the environments which shape behavior. :)
Seabrali 2 years ago
Thank-you Seabrali. Sometimes I can't be bothered going into detail because the information is there for people! :)
brentoneccles 2 years ago
Thanks for this upload.
I was a bit frustrated by certain people's inability to grasp certain concepts. I'm not sure if Fresco made it clear enough to some of them...
You have to admire the man's dedication to this vision.
Starbat88 2 years ago
People really need to pull their heads out of their own butts.
NataliaCapel 2 years ago
LOL! I think u said it best. Can we just put that on the website as the slogan? Seriously...
OMGodBecky 2 years ago
Instead of "Beyond Poverty, Politics, and War..." It could say: The Venus Project... People Just Need To Pull Their Heads Out of Their Own Butts.
LMFAO... so true.
OMGodBecky 2 years ago 6
Thanks for sharing this. It's very important to have this ideas avaliable to everyone
klaudivino 2 years ago 6
wow Great lecture! I believe in most of what Fresco is saying, though God has yet to be Proved or disproved (I think that why he is open about it) so I chose to believe that there is more to us then just life on earth. (the reasons for this are long to explain on youtube...)
but overall inspiring lecture!
TinyTurtie 2 years ago
Thx a lot for this!
I would be greatly thankfull if you would try to put english subtitles in, maybe. To help zeitgeist movement in whole world
redslav1989 2 years ago 3
Lol
napturaltwist211 2 years ago
That was a wonderful lecture. Thanks for uploading it.
ShaderZ 2 years ago 2
If everyone could be educated through this mindset, it would truely bring peace. I have been conditioned into different environments but I have had enough logical reasoned conditioning that makes me believe in his visions. He speaks the truth. But of course we should look at each other as ONE entity. We are all interconnected. We are ONE, not I. Language has contributed tosuch problems. One = We, We = One. we have to stay in that mindset. its perfect.
nutcrakerz 2 years ago 5
Big Thanks Seabrali!
mentiraexpuesta 2 years ago 5
thank you for your explanation. i have had magnet wheels on the brain lately.
and as to a1anc, i don't think i'm stupid, so i guess i fit into the 'or something' category.
KindaGamey 2 years ago 3
5:13
there's no magnetic wheels that turn on their own?
watch?v=A4uVuK2Ec6Y
KindaGamey 2 years ago
Yes there's no magnetic wheels that turn on their own. You posted a video which answers you question. The wheel is turning because its creator has positioned magnets on the arm above the wheel to generate magnetic opposition...are u stupid or something KindaGamey??
a1anc 2 years ago
he wasted time on this last part... I don't think anyone tried to say that magic does exist
NottsBenAllan 2 years ago
And yet I'm still learning the likely truths that he brings forth, even though I already know what he talks about, and even though I didn't bring it up, or hear anyone else bring it up. I thought about new things watching this again. Now, as far as abiding by a coherent lecture structure by ending with a strict Q&A, Fresco did kind of fail there. But what purpose does it serve to end a comment on that note? All it does is leave confusion and irritation, not inspiration. Go farther in your life.
Audity31 2 years ago
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Science is Buddhism. Buddhism is Science.
TheAudioSynthesist 2 years ago
similar to if your body functioning with it's various parts but ultimately come together to make you the person you are. Our society is blanketed with such randomness and static right now that we can't function together as a society. We fight and bleed the same colors but it doesn't matter because we're being ran by a select few in higher places that only know how to dominate by force. Information is dying to be free, music, art, & creativity is dying to be free for everyone to enjoy. Thx again.
addiktion13 2 years ago 3
Thanks for the wonderful videos Seabrali. They are definitely inspirational. I like how he talks about us dying and decomposing. When you think about us consuming so much from the earth it's only appropriate that we give back in the form of feeding insects, rodents, and other animals. I always tell my family I'd rather be cremated and released somewhere. Your body will become a part of the air, earth, and everything in between. If you truly believe in this system you function as one. It's very
addiktion13 2 years ago 4
Great job on posting the speech man, much appreciated! The future looks bright, only if we can come together and alter our collective consciousness to a new understanding of well-being.
EagleEyeKing 2 years ago 6
I have seen t-shirts that say: "I'm with Fresco."with a picture of him. How wonderful society could be :)
Universe2793 2 years ago 2
No way!
I want one!!
(If you know where I can buy one please let me know)
Peteysweety 2 years ago
aight thanks for the upload, answered some of my questions :)
gillesva51 2 years ago
jacque is great and it's fantastic that the internet exists today to spread his ideas and anyone else's ideas for that matter. i'm looking forward to learning more.
shunryu111 2 years ago 8
Thank you so much!
Information wants so be free<3
Jacque is the man. He's so clever, it's so nice to learn from him :)
Thank you for posting theese vids.
I hope many people will see them and learn from them (:
lasse585 2 years ago 13
Awesome! Thanks Seabrali!
scringer12 2 years ago 9