redmrlove13: Your point about considering all the contributing factors to the genocide is well taken. I should add that the purpose of 24 Hours for Darfur is for each participant to express his or her own concerns and demands. I chose to emphasize the climate issue, and while I did not discuss other issues, I think it was clear in the video that climate is just one important factor to consider. (The quotes I read from certainly allude to the "long history" of conflict in the region.)
Not too mention that just a few years ago we were all caught up on this idea of saving/liberating the poor oppressed Iraqi people, look how they have repaid us everyday since then.
Going into Darfur, even just to deliver supplies would require an armed escort to ensure the right people are getting the food. You don't think this would turn into another Somalia?
Yes, but do you see how the media and government played Iraq up while Darfur is a mere blip on the radar screen? The poor oppressed people of Iraq were just that, but the people of Darfur are not being oppressed, they are just being killed systematically and as efficiently as the Jews in the death camps.
Just because Darfur is in Africa, the people are black, and happen to be Muslim must surely mean that their situation is exactly the fucking same.
Whether or not you call it a genocide, 400,000 people have been killed and their villages burned. This is NOT the expected collateral damage of a civil war.
By the way, the civil war in Iraq was caused by the power vacuum OUR intervention caused in the first place.
While I do agree that environmental factors play a part in (perhaps even significant)in this crisis, you neglected to impute any blame whatever to the Sudanese people or their government, which has done it's best to cover this crisis up: arresting and banning journalist, covering mass gravest, and outright lying about the crisis. What you do do in your monologue quite well in a none so subtle way is blame the US for not signing environmental legislation...
On that point we may argue. One thing I will say in the US's defense, we were quick to call these mass killing "genocide." The UN has refused to call the mass killings in Dafur "genocide." Why? Well, perhaps because it is far more PC to blame the big bad industrialized nations and their polution for this problem than the poor inhabitants of an African nation (and their government).
I don't understand what the difference is between genocide and mass killings is? No matter what the semantics determine what words should be used, ultimately, thousands of people die anyway. Who cares if it is called this or that, unless you honestly believe one form of murder is more permissible than the next.
xxfuckoffxx and easy payoption clearly don't understand the concept of cause and effect. i suggest studying history. neither of you have considered the causes for these actions. you talk of africa being backwards, their inability to catch up with the west is hardly helped by unfair trade. as for blacks in america committing 90% of interracial crimes. i'd say the whole slavery and continual oppression thing would have a hand in that.
but where did they get the ammo from? wouldn't it be cheaper to buy food, not sure the cost of machine tanks, maybe it's too expensive to feed people, so they just kill them off? i also pray this isn't related to any human-sacrifices of the past during the Ancient Egyptian Empire, as some haman sacrifices was based on caste, if I'm wrong, tell me.
the bigger question is, "Who cares?" This one falls under the category of NOT OUR PROBLEM. Africa is so messed between disease, war, and just plain stupidity that it cant be saved. You hippies can try to raise all the money you want to save this third world shithole but throwing money at the country wont help.
The view is that the scarcity of supply is increasing the violence, and so, the appeal to ask for aid in food supply or agricultural means in order to normalize food supply and in turn, would result in peace between conflicting groups.
sorry for speaking the obvious, but, after reviewing Danny Fisher's video address to appeal to leaders regarding the social-economic contributions to strife/conflict.
He sites natural causes, such as decline in precipitation, which is effecting food supply ("pastoral stress"), and therefore, causing a scarcity of resource and leading to violent tensions. If I am incorrect in summarizing the video, my apologizes.
if we utilized the cannabis plant, the environmental issue would be solved. look up jack herer, he's an amazing guy that is trying to legalize HEMP so our medicinal, food, oil, fibre, and paper.
ok man u got to find out what this is all about and how they can handle them selfs! each country has its own problems so stop helping them or they will be spoiled
redmrlove13: Your point about considering all the contributing factors to the genocide is well taken. I should add that the purpose of 24 Hours for Darfur is for each participant to express his or her own concerns and demands. I chose to emphasize the climate issue, and while I did not discuss other issues, I think it was clear in the video that climate is just one important factor to consider. (The quotes I read from certainly allude to the "long history" of conflict in the region.)
chaplaindanny 4 years ago
Look at the mess in Iraq, we are caught in the middle of THEIR civil war.
Why do you think we should enter another civil war?
I realize the sensationalist love to call it a genocide, some people call this winning a war.
Regardless don't you think America already has a full plate with Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran, Pakistan, N. Korea and Allah knows who else hates us?
easypayoptions 4 years ago
Not too mention that just a few years ago we were all caught up on this idea of saving/liberating the poor oppressed Iraqi people, look how they have repaid us everyday since then.
Going into Darfur, even just to deliver supplies would require an armed escort to ensure the right people are getting the food. You don't think this would turn into another Somalia?
You are greatly mistaken.
easypayoptions 4 years ago
Yes, but do you see how the media and government played Iraq up while Darfur is a mere blip on the radar screen? The poor oppressed people of Iraq were just that, but the people of Darfur are not being oppressed, they are just being killed systematically and as efficiently as the Jews in the death camps.
Just because Darfur is in Africa, the people are black, and happen to be Muslim must surely mean that their situation is exactly the fucking same.
maldekai 4 years ago
Whether or not you call it a genocide, 400,000 people have been killed and their villages burned. This is NOT the expected collateral damage of a civil war.
By the way, the civil war in Iraq was caused by the power vacuum OUR intervention caused in the first place.
maldekai 4 years ago
Also, those leaving comments with racist/anti-Semitic/homophobic language will be blocked.
chaplaindanny 4 years ago
While I do agree that environmental factors play a part in (perhaps even significant)in this crisis, you neglected to impute any blame whatever to the Sudanese people or their government, which has done it's best to cover this crisis up: arresting and banning journalist, covering mass gravest, and outright lying about the crisis. What you do do in your monologue quite well in a none so subtle way is blame the US for not signing environmental legislation...
redmrlove13 4 years ago
On that point we may argue. One thing I will say in the US's defense, we were quick to call these mass killing "genocide." The UN has refused to call the mass killings in Dafur "genocide." Why? Well, perhaps because it is far more PC to blame the big bad industrialized nations and their polution for this problem than the poor inhabitants of an African nation (and their government).
redmrlove13 4 years ago
I don't understand what the difference is between genocide and mass killings is? No matter what the semantics determine what words should be used, ultimately, thousands of people die anyway. Who cares if it is called this or that, unless you honestly believe one form of murder is more permissible than the next.
maldekai 4 years ago
Comments that utilize racist/anti-Semitic/homophobic epithets will not be tolerated. Don't bother posting them--they won't stay up for long.
chaplaindanny 4 years ago
yea, bosnia and croatia, and jews in germany?
CzarinaCzarina 4 years ago
Stumbling around the desert.Ha Ha funny you do know the human cradle of life began in Africa.
joocee102 4 years ago
xxfuckoffxx and easy payoption clearly don't understand the concept of cause and effect. i suggest studying history. neither of you have considered the causes for these actions. you talk of africa being backwards, their inability to catch up with the west is hardly helped by unfair trade. as for blacks in america committing 90% of interracial crimes. i'd say the whole slavery and continual oppression thing would have a hand in that.
dylan2201 4 years ago
caste mass suicide = genocide, as most castes were based on ethnicity
CzarinaCzarina 4 years ago
caste mass suicide = genicide, as most castes were based on ethnicity.
CzarinaCzarina 4 years ago
but where did they get the ammo from? wouldn't it be cheaper to buy food, not sure the cost of machine tanks, maybe it's too expensive to feed people, so they just kill them off? i also pray this isn't related to any human-sacrifices of the past during the Ancient Egyptian Empire, as some haman sacrifices was based on caste, if I'm wrong, tell me.
CzarinaCzarina 4 years ago
black people kill each other? Im shocked! Serious though, how is this our problem?
thug4life1979 4 years ago
And that's okay with you thuglife?
rubysoulgirl 4 years ago
the bigger question is, "Who cares?" This one falls under the category of NOT OUR PROBLEM. Africa is so messed between disease, war, and just plain stupidity that it cant be saved. You hippies can try to raise all the money you want to save this third world shithole but throwing money at the country wont help.
thug4life1979 4 years ago
And how old are you? Everything that happens in the world effects everyone sooner or later. You'll learn that soon enough.
rubysoulgirl 4 years ago
Ha miss mature knows better. You liberal yuppies make me smile.
shoewindex 4 years ago
The view is that the scarcity of supply is increasing the violence, and so, the appeal to ask for aid in food supply or agricultural means in order to normalize food supply and in turn, would result in peace between conflicting groups.
CzarinaCzarina 4 years ago
sorry for speaking the obvious, but, after reviewing Danny Fisher's video address to appeal to leaders regarding the social-economic contributions to strife/conflict.
He sites natural causes, such as decline in precipitation, which is effecting food supply ("pastoral stress"), and therefore, causing a scarcity of resource and leading to violent tensions. If I am incorrect in summarizing the video, my apologizes.
CzarinaCzarina 4 years ago
if we utilized the cannabis plant, the environmental issue would be solved. look up jack herer, he's an amazing guy that is trying to legalize HEMP so our medicinal, food, oil, fibre, and paper.
aboveblues 4 years ago
ok man u got to find out what this is all about and how they can handle them selfs! each country has its own problems so stop helping them or they will be spoiled
barabile 4 years ago