James Dobson is a wacko...he needs to get on to helping the world and not judging it...i watched him as a kid and know he has caused more death than life and he will have to answer to that someday. Judgment is for God along and not a self righteous preacher.
HA! This is so funny! To the hundred and thirty people who have iven this clip the thumbs up, BLESS YOU! To the nine who dislike it, please try to be understanding.
How much does Dobson allot for himself every year? Whatever it is, I'm sure half of it could be used for much better purposes than suppressing gays & lesbians. Think about other jobs, environmental issues, animal rights, global warming and bringing an end to the war in Iraq. Real Christian matters.
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Jesus was not gay. Not all kinds of love are sexual. Jesus loved John (the disciple whom Jesus loved) with brotherly, not sexual love. Next time think before you try to twist scripture to fit your skewed beliefs.
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James Dobson is a creepy old man who reminds me a lot of the old spook in the 2nd Poltergeist movie named Reverend Kane. I can just seeing him saying "you're all gonna die!!"
I'm a Christian and I love homosexuals. I don't hate any of them! If you need any help or love I will be here for you. But I will not allow the sacredness of marraige to be redefined. This is not about violating rights or hatred this is about our nations Values and Morals.
The Jesus that Dobson claims to love and represent spoke about helping the poor and downtrodden. He spoke not one fucking word about gay people. Sociopaths like Dobson are just using the gay marriage thing to extort money from panicky idiots. (In the spirit of Christian fellowship, I won't say you're one of them.)
You're missing the point. Dobson is making people poor by depriving them of a living, in order to persecute people that Jesus did not say jack shit about, one way or the other. Dobson is a con artist posing as a Christian.
That insane Christofascist needs to be indicted and expelled from the United States. The hate filled cultist hates everything the United States stands for so why does he and his fellow Christofawscist hate mongers stay in America? The insane fuck should move to Iran where his ideologies of hate and occult oppression of rights is more in keeping with the government.
Umm, verses please? New AND Old testament because there's a new covenant in this new age, something people who haven't truly studied the bible would never understand. but yah. verses?
Jesus says that he didn't come here to change the laws, but to enforce them, so that's actually debatable. 1 Samuel 15:2-3 Thus saith the LORD of hosts ... Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.
The sword of the LORD is filled with blood, it is made fat with fatness. -- Isaiah 34:6
The point is simple, the Old Testament God is a pretty nasty, bloody, evil guy.
To all whom belieev in the bible. I believe in it. but there are many contradictions within itself like "love thy neighbor as you love yourself." but it also as lordinti put it says that gays deserve to die. That's not loving your neighbor
Oh boy they just had to make one that hatefull. As if the peaceful happy dappy videos don't make 40% of the viewere insane, they have to insult the religous nuts.
WWJF lol. Thank you headzup for exposing the bigotry and hypocrisy in these hatemonger evangelical "leaders". Jesus Christ would be ashamed for people like this to claim follow his teachings. Jesus warned of Pharisee elites and always had compassion for all human beings!
I myself am strongly uncomfortable with the thought of same- sex marriage but I believe this is our generation's human rights movement, so we should not deny it.
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It's not "Christians" that condem homosexuality. It was God. He said that He "Hates" them. No. He is not all love like the un-believers believe Him to be.
I hear and read that bit of crap alot. And no, you do condem homosexuals. You are using a book to justify your fear and hatered. So don't blame it on a book.
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No...I have no power to condem anyone. I am instructed to love my fellow man. It is God's place ALONE to judge and condem, and He has allready made it clear to us how homosexuals will be judged....by Him.
Blame? Where does blame come into any of my comments?
See that's the thing, I don't need to feel like I have a purpose as a part of some deity's design. I am just here and that is it. Evolution brought forth an animal that can ponder its own existence. We are arrogant, nosey primates and that is the end of the story.
you have plenty of power to condemn, you idiot. you just did it here. do you really think you're only talking to your ignorant/stupid friends with that bull heybudd? obviously you do, but unfortunately there are others here who see your bigotry, hate and your judgements.
you're othing but an ignorant, bigoted "christian" bigot!
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I was speaking of religious condemnation, not secular.
Just what did I condemn and how did I do it? How am I a bigot? What did I say for you to think that? Hate? What did I say that was hateful? Same thing with judgements. Where did pass judgement? Show me.
Or....are you delusional or just need to vent some pent up anger?
Your comment is not reality based. If you feel it is....tell me how you arrived at these conclusions.
"It's not "Christians" that condem homosexuality. It was God." you use the bible and god as your license to hate. you hide behind god and that book. it enables you to do as you please.
All your rationalizations are meaningless when based on religious texts of your particular religion.
Oh, and yes, you are in fact a bigot. You might recognize that if you ever learn to think outside that nice, comfortable, comforting box in which you've set up housekeeping.
Tell me what I have said for you to think those things of me. I don't think you understand. Your jumping to conclusions, and accusing wrongfully. Non Christian, no salvation.
Flattering as it is, I don't need addoration. Or need to "justify" conditions that don't exsist.
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.
Abomination--noun: hate coupled with disgust
Not all concepts in the Bible can be found reduced to a single verse like some sound bite on the "news". It takes time, study and the will to understand.
"Of the various creatures that live in the water, you may eat the following: whatever in the seas or in river waters has both fins and scales you may eat. But of the various creatures that crawl or swim in the water, whether in the sea or in the rivers, all those that lack either fins or scales are loathsome for you, and you shall treat them as loathsome. Their flesh you shall not eat, and their dead bodies you shall loathe. ..."
You're welcome. I also enjoy a good crawfish boil.
Are you arguing that "unclean" animals like shrimp were not to be eaten because of practical reasons rather than spiritual ones? Would you, then, agree that people do not need to marry solely for procreation? Perhaps homosexuality was called an "abomination" in the old law so that the Israelites would continue to grow in number as much as possible, leading to a larger army to fight off their enemies.
Your Lord tells explicitly that something should be treated as loathsome, and you overrule it by saying that we have refrigerators now? So with the existence of refrigerators the word of your god became irrelevant.Very interesting, thank you. muahahahaaaa omfg
The Old Testament also says slavery is OK. But that does not make it so. I am a Christian, but I also believe that the Bible was corrupted or misinterpreted by the (early, 1100s-1500s) Catholic Church. And never put too much faith into one book as even the Devil can cite Scripture.
if the devil was working one God would have said ok somethings up and done something now and 2 the devil would be trying to have mericals to make people thing God was with them
The NEW testament doesn't say its ok. Slavery was condoned under the OLD covenant and even then there were pretty strict biblical codes on it. Mistreatment and cruelty were prohibited, and there were limits for how long a person could be kept as a slave.
Actually the bible says you can go to another country and take anyone you want as a slave. That person would then be your property, and his/her children would also be your slaves for life. You were allowed to beat your slaves, and you wouldn't be punished unless they died immediately afterwords. And the punishment was really only paying money, so in effect, these slaves were only worth money, hey didn't count as human. There were limits on slavery of Hebrew people, but not foreigners. Cheers
PS -- I'm familiar with Leviticus; I've read the whole book. Perhaps you should chill over a hin of wine and consider that a person's tolerant nature does not make her/him ignorant of the Bible.
Oh please. Your Bible rule book is a hodge podge of folktales and cheap romance novels. The notion that this one book is the fulcrum of the universe is childish. Grow up and stop looking to your invisible friend Jesus for life lessons.
1. The feeling of extreme disgust and hatred; abhorrence; detestation; loathing; as, he holds tobacco in abomination.
2. That which is abominable; anything hateful, wicked, or shamefully vile; an object or state that excites disgust and hatred; a hateful or shameful vice; pollution.
3. A cause of pollution or wickedness.
In the context, he refers to the act as AN abomination, not that he abhors it. So, it would be a cause of pollution or wickedness. Not God hates homosexuality.
Actually, the Jews didn't have an offical term for homosexuals back then, so the entire thing is a mistranslation, but really, who fucking cares. Anyone who thinks we should base laws off a 2000+ year old text should be sterilized so their genes stop dumbing down the rest of humanity.
Since homosexuality is Not a choice, but something inherent, denying gays marriage is cruel. And since no god exists, bringing up your god in this matter is meaningless.
thismind, i guess i sounded a little too sure of the whole "is there a god question". Beliefs, though amusing sometimes, don't call for any respect. Sorry.
HEYBUDD, perhaps you can have god come down here, right now with us, and explain how he totally supports your position. When he doesn't, and won't, you're left standing there with a book of fairy tales written by man condemning and persecuting homosexuals ALL ON YOUR OWN...
Sorry...there are no dates in the Bible. The end of days prophacies, written 1000's of years ago, are now 99% fulfilled. Not so "generic". This is the end of days, and He will be here soon. Hope your ready.
Wow. An action movie. Now there's something that we can all base our beliefs on.
Laws are derived from morality. Morality is based on religious beliefs. Thats a fact, no belief involved.
So you just don't want Christian morality involved in the process? Or.......?
I suspect you probably have spent too much of your time studying "action movies" to participate in such a philosophical discussion. I would bet you are unaware of your own intolorance.
Wrong. Morality is derived from a social contract amongst societies. Saying "Thou shall not kill" is not any more relevant coming from a religious aspect than it is coming from a group of people who have figured out that life would be so much easier if we didn't spend most of our time killing each other.
Socrates 469 BC399 BC and many other philosophers. Ancient Greece has a main influence in European thinking. No bible in sight. Those reflections on moral survived dark ages and always were counterparts to religious dogma. Philosophy is about analysis and reason. Religion about obey or hell. Socrates was sentenced to death because he "offended" the god's btw. Religion doesn't make sense, one has to believe in it, otherwise punishment. Read, repeat, one book only.
True enough. Laws are derived from morality. Morality is based on religious beliefs. However, morality and the law have been around for a much longer time than any religious books. So, although your argument is correct, you are not using it to your advantage if you infer all laws are based on the bible or the koran. All religions main purpose was to propagate the faith. Therefore, all religions had to hold a negative view of homosexuality for them to survive.
The most famous research was done by the Barna Research Group (Google that, or "Divorce rate Christians". It was a Christian imitative so don't complain it is atheist propaganda.
I always find it funny when Christians ask for proof as their their world vision is based on absolutely no evidence. And funny enough their is even plenty of evidence against it they ignore.
do gay people have different moralities? WTH do you mean by that? all they want is acknowledgement in marriage. sounds reasonable to me. or should one of the partners become a transvestite to be able to marriage? atleast then one looks more female then
oh, so you want to push bigotry, hate, wars, lies and the rest of the crap morality you straights create on gays? is that what you really mean you straight ignorant, bigoted bastard?
who wants the utter HELL you assholes have created!
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tomcamp6023 1 year ago
James Dobson is a wacko...he needs to get on to helping the world and not judging it...i watched him as a kid and know he has caused more death than life and he will have to answer to that someday. Judgment is for God along and not a self righteous preacher.
SereneInvestor 1 year ago
HA! This is so funny! To the hundred and thirty people who have iven this clip the thumbs up, BLESS YOU! To the nine who dislike it, please try to be understanding.
How much does Dobson allot for himself every year? Whatever it is, I'm sure half of it could be used for much better purposes than suppressing gays & lesbians. Think about other jobs, environmental issues, animal rights, global warming and bringing an end to the war in Iraq. Real Christian matters.
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jamesqueale 1 year ago
Christians should stop having ANYTHING to do with homosexuals. It's time to let the world slide into the oblivion it so desires.
AskWhyNow2day 2 years ago
jesus was gay.
thegoochieguy 2 years ago 2
Jesus was not gay. Not all kinds of love are sexual. Jesus loved John (the disciple whom Jesus loved) with brotherly, not sexual love. Next time think before you try to twist scripture to fit your skewed beliefs.
IanLoewen 2 years ago
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bobgnote1 2 years ago
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No queer marriage in california,praise jesus.
xj2yzz 2 years ago
I owe James Dobson a lot: because of him & his Dominionist Theocratic ilk, I have come around to FAVORING gay marriage.
As soon as they start fundraising to real Prop Hate in California, my check will be in the mail to support it.
BenAliGtor 2 years ago 4
Rather, your mind has been corrupted by the way of the world.
Typical these days.
AskWhyNow2day 2 years ago
You live to judge others from your highchair, don't you, Asshole Baby?
BenAliGtor 2 years ago
James Dobson is a creepy old man who reminds me a lot of the old spook in the 2nd Poltergeist movie named Reverend Kane. I can just seeing him saying "you're all gonna die!!"
Jacksonholenativ 3 years ago
Jams Dobson has alot of blood on his hands.
EternalSSA 3 years ago
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I'm a Christian and I love homosexuals. I don't hate any of them! If you need any help or love I will be here for you. But I will not allow the sacredness of marraige to be redefined. This is not about violating rights or hatred this is about our nations Values and Morals.
dreamagery 3 years ago
wow what a bad trade 202 homeless and jobless so queers cant marry, dumb ass!
SPFstyle 3 years ago
The Jesus that Dobson claims to love and represent spoke about helping the poor and downtrodden. He spoke not one fucking word about gay people. Sociopaths like Dobson are just using the gay marriage thing to extort money from panicky idiots. (In the spirit of Christian fellowship, I won't say you're one of them.)
streetswell 2 years ago 3
Gays are not poor or downtrodden. They are well off and perverted.
You should focus to keep your family away from anything related to gay life.
AskWhyNow2day 2 years ago
You're missing the point. Dobson is making people poor by depriving them of a living, in order to persecute people that Jesus did not say jack shit about, one way or the other. Dobson is a con artist posing as a Christian.
streetswell 2 years ago
aahooph
onvogmasaj 3 years ago
"Don't let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya".
I couldn't stop laughing.
Yogurt721 3 years ago
lol very nice
gophers43 3 years ago
That insane Christofascist needs to be indicted and expelled from the United States. The hate filled cultist hates everything the United States stands for so why does he and his fellow Christofawscist hate mongers stay in America? The insane fuck should move to Iran where his ideologies of hate and occult oppression of rights is more in keeping with the government.
NotSoOldHippy 3 years ago 7
Christofascist!!! I love it! lol
johnedwards1968 3 years ago
@NotSoOldHippy I don't understand what you are trying to say.. could you expand? and more than: fuck them dumb christians? ps Im Agnostic.
marcdforman 9 months ago
god botherers... like cancer... someday we hope there's a cure.
MargeAggedon 3 years ago
I say let gay/bi guys get married if they want, BUT KILL ALL THE STUPID FUCKING LESBIAN AND BI WHORES
AmandaFields 3 years ago
the bible condones infanticide, human sacrifice, genocide, slavery, senseless brutality, etc.
yeah totally agree with basing our morals off of it.
btw anyone know how to get blood out of carpet?
misterlolington 3 years ago
Umm, verses please? New AND Old testament because there's a new covenant in this new age, something people who haven't truly studied the bible would never understand. but yah. verses?
whatevalife6 3 years ago
Jesus says that he didn't come here to change the laws, but to enforce them, so that's actually debatable. 1 Samuel 15:2-3 Thus saith the LORD of hosts ... Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.
The sword of the LORD is filled with blood, it is made fat with fatness. -- Isaiah 34:6
The point is simple, the Old Testament God is a pretty nasty, bloody, evil guy.
AmishMarine1 2 years ago
To all whom belieev in the bible. I believe in it. but there are many contradictions within itself like "love thy neighbor as you love yourself." but it also as lordinti put it says that gays deserve to die. That's not loving your neighbor
Oddrob13 3 years ago
LOL! so true :-)
wrathofachilles 3 years ago
Here's something you never hear about: gay abortion.
sLeepPastNooN 3 years ago 2
and where he made ya shit from
gymer15 3 years ago
Please don't go crazy over my comment, but just putting this out there.
We banned polygamy, so why can't we stop any other sort of marriage outside of heterosexual marriage?
Celaritos 3 years ago 2
Let's ban ALL marriage! Most of the world's problems are caused by married people. It's time to put a stop to the madness!
Marvin27 3 years ago
woot 57 comment
tatertottheawesome 3 years ago
Oh boy they just had to make one that hatefull. As if the peaceful happy dappy videos don't make 40% of the viewere insane, they have to insult the religous nuts.
obamawalker 3 years ago
LOL Love the "ending" on this one.
TheDystopiaInside 3 years ago
Jesus loves everyone
GAYS INCLUDED!
Religion is messing with what God or any of the prophets would have really wanted in order to please those currently in charge
GreenDayGalzie 3 years ago 2
ha, nicely done headzup.
freckldfreak 3 years ago 3
watch?v=mm1KOBMg1Y8&feature=email
ssbb8674 3 years ago
this is my favorite video.
podberezin666 3 years ago
This prop 8 shit is Pathetic
GenerationXeroFilms 3 years ago
k im catholic and im not gay but omfg y did they stop gay marrige ppl just want happeness
nationalsroc 3 years ago
WWJF lol. Thank you headzup for exposing the bigotry and hypocrisy in these hatemonger evangelical "leaders". Jesus Christ would be ashamed for people like this to claim follow his teachings. Jesus warned of Pharisee elites and always had compassion for all human beings!
tyndarius 3 years ago 2
Agreed...except....
Compassion for all human beings?
Read the book of Job. Maybe you will change your mind on this one.
HEYBUDD 3 years ago
Jesus is in the book of Job? Where?
Marvin27 3 years ago
That kind of blather could send a starship into warp speed.
hypnofan35 3 years ago
I myself am strongly uncomfortable with the thought of same- sex marriage but I believe this is our generation's human rights movement, so we should not deny it.
Jmage585 3 years ago 4
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It's not "Christians" that condem homosexuality. It was God. He said that He "Hates" them. No. He is not all love like the un-believers believe Him to be.
HEYBUDD 3 years ago
I hear and read that bit of crap alot. And no, you do condem homosexuals. You are using a book to justify your fear and hatered. So don't blame it on a book.
SmileOnADog 3 years ago 14
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No...I have no power to condem anyone. I am instructed to love my fellow man. It is God's place ALONE to judge and condem, and He has allready made it clear to us how homosexuals will be judged....by Him.
Blame? Where does blame come into any of my comments?
HEYBUDD 3 years ago
Arguing with a biblethumper is pointless.
SmileOnADog 3 years ago 5
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You don't have to feel "pointless". There is a truth. Your life has a purpose.
There is no need to argue, discussion would be productive, if you seek truth.
HEYBUDD 3 years ago
See that's the thing, I don't need to feel like I have a purpose as a part of some deity's design. I am just here and that is it. Evolution brought forth an animal that can ponder its own existence. We are arrogant, nosey primates and that is the end of the story.
SmileOnADog 3 years ago 2
you have plenty of power to condemn, you idiot. you just did it here. do you really think you're only talking to your ignorant/stupid friends with that bull heybudd? obviously you do, but unfortunately there are others here who see your bigotry, hate and your judgements.
you're othing but an ignorant, bigoted "christian" bigot!
wntoply6 3 years ago 2
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I was speaking of religious condemnation, not secular.
Just what did I condemn and how did I do it? How am I a bigot? What did I say for you to think that? Hate? What did I say that was hateful? Same thing with judgements. Where did pass judgement? Show me.
Or....are you delusional or just need to vent some pent up anger?
Your comment is not reality based. If you feel it is....tell me how you arrived at these conclusions.
I feel your lost in more ways than one.
HEYBUDD 3 years ago
"It's not "Christians" that condem homosexuality. It was God." you use the bible and god as your license to hate. you hide behind god and that book. it enables you to do as you please.
wntoply6 3 years ago 4
All your rationalizations are meaningless when based on religious texts of your particular religion.
Oh, and yes, you are in fact a bigot. You might recognize that if you ever learn to think outside that nice, comfortable, comforting box in which you've set up housekeeping.
integral 3 years ago
That's so adorable how you use the bible to justify your hate, fear, and intolerance. Bad christian, no donut.
integral 3 years ago
What hate are you talking about?
What fear do you think I have?
What do you think that I am intolorant of?
Tell me what I have said for you to think those things of me. I don't think you understand. Your jumping to conclusions, and accusing wrongfully. Non Christian, no salvation.
Flattering as it is, I don't need addoration. Or need to "justify" conditions that don't exsist.
HEYBUDD 3 years ago
I'd like to see that in verse, please.
thismindofmine 3 years ago 4
Leviticus 18:22
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.
Abomination--noun: hate coupled with disgust
Not all concepts in the Bible can be found reduced to a single verse like some sound bite on the "news". It takes time, study and the will to understand.
HEYBUDD 3 years ago
Leviticus 11:9-12
"Of the various creatures that live in the water, you may eat the following: whatever in the seas or in river waters has both fins and scales you may eat. But of the various creatures that crawl or swim in the water, whether in the sea or in the rivers, all those that lack either fins or scales are loathsome for you, and you shall treat them as loathsome. Their flesh you shall not eat, and their dead bodies you shall loathe. ..."
God hates shrimp. com
hahayouarefunny 3 years ago
The summation of Lev 11 can be found in the last verse:
47 To make a difference between the unclean and the clean, and between the beast that may be eaten and the beast that may not be eaten.
It has nothing to do with "hate" or "homosexuals".
Do you really think that God would hate his own creation? Or, are you trying to make a seprate point?
HEYBUDD 3 years ago
I'm asking if you hate shrimp and their crustaceous brethren.
hahayouarefunny 3 years ago 4
I love shrimp, oysters, lobster etc. Thanks for asking, and your intrest in me, personally.
If you have read the whole Bible as you claim, you would have read when Jesus came to earth the fist time he did away with the old law.
Now because of refridgeration, processing, etc. it is safe to eat allmost anything. Though I would be mindful of GMO's, additives like hormones, etc.
Off topic much?
HEYBUDD 3 years ago
I am familiar with that. However, you're still citing the "old law" as your reason for denying gays rights.
Also, I did not claim to have read the entire Bible. I said I'd read the entire book of Leviticus.
hahayouarefunny 3 years ago
God does not change. He still hates homosexuality as I stated. There is plenty of New Testament referances to Gods position on homosexuality.
How do you know my stance on gays' rights? Did I say something?
HEYBUDD 3 years ago
I'd like you to sight some examples of the son of God showing his hatred for any of God's children.
thismindofmine 3 years ago
You're welcome. I also enjoy a good crawfish boil.
Are you arguing that "unclean" animals like shrimp were not to be eaten because of practical reasons rather than spiritual ones? Would you, then, agree that people do not need to marry solely for procreation? Perhaps homosexuality was called an "abomination" in the old law so that the Israelites would continue to grow in number as much as possible, leading to a larger army to fight off their enemies.
hahayouarefunny 3 years ago
u "love shrimp, oysters, lobster etc." but the your Lord says "...you shall treat them as loathsome".are you living in sin?
alano74 3 years ago
No. It was never a "sin" to eat anything. The quote in question is taken from a passage telling of what was unhealthy to eat back then.
HEYBUDD 3 years ago
Your Lord tells explicitly that something should be treated as loathsome, and you overrule it by saying that we have refrigerators now? So with the existence of refrigerators the word of your god became irrelevant.Very interesting, thank you. muahahahaaaa omfg
alano74 3 years ago
so then leviticus is just an old dated book of laws laws that we do not follow anymore
lordinti 3 years ago
The Old Testament also says slavery is OK. But that does not make it so. I am a Christian, but I also believe that the Bible was corrupted or misinterpreted by the (early, 1100s-1500s) Catholic Church. And never put too much faith into one book as even the Devil can cite Scripture.
Oddrob13 3 years ago
if the devil was working one God would have said ok somethings up and done something now and 2 the devil would be trying to have mericals to make people thing God was with them
HADESRULE44 3 years ago
The NEW testament doesn't say its ok. Slavery was condoned under the OLD covenant and even then there were pretty strict biblical codes on it. Mistreatment and cruelty were prohibited, and there were limits for how long a person could be kept as a slave.
whatevalife6 3 years ago
Jesus never even says homosexuality isn't.
Oddrob13 3 years ago
What Jesus didn't overturn, stays.
whatevalife6 3 years ago
Actually the bible says you can go to another country and take anyone you want as a slave. That person would then be your property, and his/her children would also be your slaves for life. You were allowed to beat your slaves, and you wouldn't be punished unless they died immediately afterwords. And the punishment was really only paying money, so in effect, these slaves were only worth money, hey didn't count as human. There were limits on slavery of Hebrew people, but not foreigners. Cheers
AmishMarine1 2 years ago
PS -- I'm familiar with Leviticus; I've read the whole book. Perhaps you should chill over a hin of wine and consider that a person's tolerant nature does not make her/him ignorant of the Bible.
hahayouarefunny 3 years ago
Oh please. Your Bible rule book is a hodge podge of folktales and cheap romance novels. The notion that this one book is the fulcrum of the universe is childish. Grow up and stop looking to your invisible friend Jesus for life lessons.
SmileOnADog 3 years ago
Abomination -
1. The feeling of extreme disgust and hatred; abhorrence; detestation; loathing; as, he holds tobacco in abomination.
2. That which is abominable; anything hateful, wicked, or shamefully vile; an object or state that excites disgust and hatred; a hateful or shameful vice; pollution.
3. A cause of pollution or wickedness.
In the context, he refers to the act as AN abomination, not that he abhors it. So, it would be a cause of pollution or wickedness. Not God hates homosexuality.
thismindofmine 3 years ago
Actually, the Jews didn't have an offical term for homosexuals back then, so the entire thing is a mistranslation, but really, who fucking cares. Anyone who thinks we should base laws off a 2000+ year old text should be sterilized so their genes stop dumbing down the rest of humanity.
maofas 3 years ago 4
Since homosexuality is Not a choice, but something inherent, denying gays marriage is cruel. And since no god exists, bringing up your god in this matter is meaningless.
johnnyk2112 3 years ago 3
Awesome. Bigotry from the other side of the coin. "What I say is right. Period. No argument." Congratulations.
thismindofmine 3 years ago
thismind. just curious, were you responding to my post.?? if so, what bigotry?
johnnyk2112 3 years ago
thismind, i guess i sounded a little too sure of the whole "is there a god question". Beliefs, though amusing sometimes, don't call for any respect. Sorry.
johnnyk2112 3 years ago
ty
i agree 100%
AcdcfreakRocks 3 years ago
so let God punish them. he is the judge, nobody else
avalsonline 3 years ago
HEYBUDD, perhaps you can have god come down here, right now with us, and explain how he totally supports your position. When he doesn't, and won't, you're left standing there with a book of fairy tales written by man condemning and persecuting homosexuals ALL ON YOUR OWN...
Bolgernow 3 years ago
Relax....He's on the way! Until then, He gave us his Word. His "position" can be found there.
So....you believe in fairys but not God eh?...interesting.
HEYBUDD 3 years ago
Got a DATE on the that BUDD?
Or is it just the generic "End Of Days"?
BTW, that movie sucked...
Bolgernow 3 years ago
Sorry...there are no dates in the Bible. The end of days prophacies, written 1000's of years ago, are now 99% fulfilled. Not so "generic". This is the end of days, and He will be here soon. Hope your ready.
Movie?...What?
HEYBUDD 3 years ago
It's an action movie that stars the "Governator" who allowed this unconstitutional proposition 8 in the first place, Arnold Schwarzenegger...
Whatever floats your imaginary boat pal. Just keep your intolerant bigoted god out of basic civil rights laws, cool?
Bolgernow 3 years ago
Wow. An action movie. Now there's something that we can all base our beliefs on.
Laws are derived from morality. Morality is based on religious beliefs. Thats a fact, no belief involved.
So you just don't want Christian morality involved in the process? Or.......?
I suspect you probably have spent too much of your time studying "action movies" to participate in such a philosophical discussion. I would bet you are unaware of your own intolorance.
HEYBUDD 3 years ago
If you're looking to argue, kick a dog, or get a wife...
Enjoy your book of fiction, just don't use it to oppress others, create hate, or justify bigotry...
Then we'll tangle...
Bolgernow 3 years ago
lol
misterlolington 3 years ago
"Morality is based on religious beliefs. "
Wrong. Morality is derived from a social contract amongst societies. Saying "Thou shall not kill" is not any more relevant coming from a religious aspect than it is coming from a group of people who have figured out that life would be so much easier if we didn't spend most of our time killing each other.
Orlor 3 years ago 2
Socrates 469 BC399 BC and many other philosophers. Ancient Greece has a main influence in European thinking. No bible in sight. Those reflections on moral survived dark ages and always were counterparts to religious dogma. Philosophy is about analysis and reason. Religion about obey or hell. Socrates was sentenced to death because he "offended" the god's btw. Religion doesn't make sense, one has to believe in it, otherwise punishment. Read, repeat, one book only.
alano74 3 years ago
True enough. Laws are derived from morality. Morality is based on religious beliefs. However, morality and the law have been around for a much longer time than any religious books. So, although your argument is correct, you are not using it to your advantage if you infer all laws are based on the bible or the koran. All religions main purpose was to propagate the faith. Therefore, all religions had to hold a negative view of homosexuality for them to survive.
trax2u 3 years ago
Now that the main religions are firmly entrenched, there really is no reason for them not to evolve with the rest of society.
trax2u 3 years ago
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Preserve the Sanctity of Marriage...
... Outlaw divorce laws that dissolve that sanctity.
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maxx1000 3 years ago 13
And make second marriages illegal, in keeping with Jesus' own words. Surely the christians wouldn't have a problem with that?
samsroomie 3 years ago 5
Christians have a higher divorse rate then atheists, why should christians tell every 1 how marriage should be?
sirPiteye 3 years ago 17
Christians have a higher marriage rate than atheists......duh!
HEYBUDD 3 years ago
Rofl, also there are more christians, but per marriage there are more divorses i'm not saying total... alrighty?
sirPiteye 3 years ago
Ok. You are speaking in percentages. But besides you saying that, is there a place I can find that info? Show me.
Bear in mind that anyone can profess to be a Christian. Belief in God is not enough. Even satan believes in God.
HEYBUDD 3 years ago
The most famous research was done by the Barna Research Group (Google that, or "Divorce rate Christians". It was a Christian imitative so don't complain it is atheist propaganda.
I always find it funny when Christians ask for proof as their their world vision is based on absolutely no evidence. And funny enough their is even plenty of evidence against it they ignore.
sirPiteye 3 years ago 2
This comment has received too many negative votes show
I wish gay people would stop pushing their morality on us and let us push our morality on them.
Richardgwm 3 years ago
do gay people have different moralities? WTH do you mean by that? all they want is acknowledgement in marriage. sounds reasonable to me. or should one of the partners become a transvestite to be able to marriage? atleast then one looks more female then
robinvan1983 3 years ago
pretty sure that was sarcasm, maybe you should read the entire sentence? read it twice if ya need too.
Tsavoma 3 years ago 6
Look up sarcasm in the dictionary. Then learn to recognize it.
integral 3 years ago
wait wait wait. it is the christians that are trying to push their morality.THAT IS WHAT PROP 8 WAS.
avalsonline 3 years ago
I wish Christians would stop pushing their morality on EVERYONE else.
I also wish Christians would stop acting like their a minority!
You can't be a minority if you are the largest religion in the world!
michaelbook18 3 years ago 8
oh, so you want to push bigotry, hate, wars, lies and the rest of the crap morality you straights create on gays? is that what you really mean you straight ignorant, bigoted bastard?
who wants the utter HELL you assholes have created!
wntoply6 3 years ago
Jeezus, he was joking, punkin.
integral 3 years ago
he did a terrible job of it, baby! sarcasm is a far cry from what he wrote. there's more whit and irony in sacrasm that was written there.
wntoply6 3 years ago
So your saying that they should be tolerant of your intolerance?
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Thehappypages 3 years ago