14 LPM hydroxy cell runing small engine

[wwweshop4youcom]

How much amps its taking, and does it works on 12 volts or?

[MrRuzo214]

We know HHO works but how do we get the engine to rev up?

[MegaLeogeo]

QUE S UNA BATERIA PARA ODUCIR HIDROGENO



[vidbid1]

Stanley Meyer say hydrogen gas combined with ambient air and non-combustible gases to the engine intake improves engine performance. See patent #4,421, 474

[Gunner3210]

How is this excepted to work? The generator power is used to electrolyse the water to produce HHO which in turn powers the generator?

That is bullshit right there.

It does look like a good energy storage mechanism though, I'll give you that.

[rblackwell2771]

change the timing on that bad boy and it will run with a lot less hydroxy. like 5lpm with the proper tuning.

[canadianman000]

if you use a PWM you can cut that 2000 watts running your electrolyser pretty much down to nothing.

[frank0067]

DOnt be amazed .. because the OIl and auto companies are OUT to debunk this good ol fuel !!

can i say,,, we should expect this?

[Me102288]

@frank0067 Internets spreading this knoledge across the planet were no longer afraid of the oil bitches. The only thing we need to happen is running out of fossil fuels to force them to learn, its not about them making money, its about us surviving. A simple little fact they'[ve been overlooking since they made the choice between gasoline and hydroxy over 100 years ago... they chose fossil fuels only because it would make them money :-\ I seriouslty hope they all drown in crude oil.

[poweredBYGDK]

scuze ca m-am grabit sa postez fara sa citesc, deci cu o energie de 2kWh produci 840L.. cum ai ajuns la 142W/L?.. 1Kg de hidrogen contine o energie de 143Mj (sursa wiki) adica 39.7kWh....folosind legea gazului ideal cu toate ca hidrogenul nu e ideal ajungi la concluzia ca 1L de hidrogen la pres 1atm si temp de 20grade are 83mg.. adiga o energie de 11.9Wh.. diferenta energetica dintre H2 si (2H2+O2) nu e mare... imi cer scuze daca gresesc, te rog sa ma corectezi

[flaviandd]

@poweredBYGDK Cu 2KWh produc 14LPM HHO. Faci impartirea si obtii cei 140W necesari pentru un LPM HHO.

[poweredBYGDK]

@flaviandd energia este o marime ce arata o putere raportata la un timp, 2kWh (2000W ora!) nu minut.. deci tre sa ti cont de cantitatea obtinuta intr-o ora nu de cantitatea obtinuta in 60 secunde.. pe minut vei folosi o energie de 33.3W/60sec (regula de 3 simpla 2000W*60S/3600S).. intr-o ora produci 840L.. deci 2000wh/840L=2.38Wh/L , dar nu te astepta ca acei 840L sa fie 100% HHO,

[flaviandd]

@poweredBYGDK - nu stau o ora sa masor productia, desi teoretic ai dreptate e doar o chestie de conventie. Cu 2KWh produc intr-adevar 840LPH sau 14LPM. In mod uzual comparatia se face in LPM, doar cei care vor sa impresioneze cu numere mari dau cifrele in LPH. Cat priveste calitatea gazului produs, aia e intr-adevar o alta discutie.

[poweredBYGDK]

felicitari pentru clip, si eu experimentez acelasi lucru cu un motor cules de pe un pocket bike, ce generator de HHO folosesti si la ce putere?

[blackjackhp]

have you considered using the out put from the generator while its running to take the battery out of the circuit so engine out put creates generator out put eliminating battery would be perpetual and for the most part self sustaining

[Me102288]

@blackjackhp wow holy ppl learn fast.. :-) 180 watts in, 2000 out. I wouldn't call it perpetual, it is over unity though, well, as long as you keep adding wate.. holy crap...  your right, it just needs to be under water. Wow man you inadvertently helped me solve the last step, give it an unlimited water supply.. omg

[tangoseal1]

@fearturtles

LOL sorry dude... I didnt mean that reply at you. I somehow misclicked and was aiming to direct my comment at someone else..

My bad! 

[geekfish]

Pressure is the key... Good work..!!! Did you have to change the timing? Or do you just regulate in by airflow and hho pressure?

[prpetrov]

Well but 2kW too many it has to be more economical variant.

[MrWeedluv]

is his hho only

[arizonachristian]

now run the hho cell off the generator after its strated ........endless energy :o

[mrcss]

That be WAY ineffiect you know that internal combustion engines are extremly ineffeicent right?

[jdtrickster]

Lol, I wanted to do that just because I think its funny. Wouldnt that show you how much energy is lost to the reaction?

[pixuma]

you didn't have to advance the ignition timing? (or retard... i can't remember which right now)

[thelonewolf267]

i think you have it right every thing ive read so far points to hydrogen having a pre-ignition before it gets to the point of ignition

[menthorul]

Traiasca HHO !

Long Live HHO !

Gas , the fosil one, soon will be forgett it. :)

[Davehho1]

SmartScarecrow (3 hours ago) Show Hide 0 Marked as spam Reply | Spam it just never ceases to amaze me ... a guy gets an engine that was designed specifically to run on gasoline to run on HHO without any modification and folks are not impressed "

I pissed SSC,,and impressed, we should have had this tech 50 years ago...

[SmartScarecrow]

it just never ceases to amaze me ... a guy gets an engine that was designed specifically to run on gasoline to run on HHO without any modification and folks are not impressed ... imagine how well it would run if the engine were optimized for this fuel ... hope you have not given up on it ... I certainly have not ... my technique is much improved since last summer and its spring here now ... time to get back to work ...

[flaviandd]

Same here. Spring comes and tests start again... :)

Not gave up yet, but it takes more time, money and dedication than I originally believed.

[FearTurtles]

It was specifically designed to run on ethenol. Lets also consider that it took 2000 watts to run a 500 watt light.  Not really that impressive it is.

[SmartScarecrow]

It's not as easy as you might think to get such an engine to run on HHO gas. Takes a lot of work and requires solutions to many problems. The real trick is to figure out how to modify such an engine so it runs well. This takes even more work. As a mental exercise alone it is well worth it. It is impressive when someone takes on such a project , figures out and then beats the problems. Was not expecting magic.

[FearTurtles]

If you pump enough hho into any gas engine it will run. I have seen it done on both 2 and 4 stroke engines with no timing modifications at all. So it really is not that hard to get one to run, But to run well is a challenge I agree. In the end however the goal is to have it run more effecent then running gasoline. He has a long way to go still.

[tangoseal1]

@FearTurtles

11 months old but I have to say it. ...

Come up with better technology. These people are the ones that are going to find a way while you sit back and bitch about shit.

[FearTurtles]

@tangoseal1

Oh geez dude, do you even have a clue as to what I posted?

[5horsepower]

did that 2 stroke fuel filter actually help for flash backs or wat did it do

[catal4n]

sal ia zii generatoru functiona exclusiv cu hho sau si benzina si hho,si generatoru hho era alimentat de baterie de masina sau aveai vreun devertor si il bagai in priza la 220v? ms

[EnergySupply2008]

Mega Joules per liter.

Gasoline 34.2

Gaseous Hydrogen at room temperature 0.01079

HHO, two parts H one part O so divide 0.01079 by 3 x 2 = energy density 0.00719 Mega Joules per liter at room temp.

Raise temp to typical HHO cell temp 185 F (60 amps input) gas expands 21.76 percent.

0.00719 divided by 121.76 x 100 energy density now 0.00590 Mega Joules per liter.

34.2 Mega Joules divided by 0.00590, ratio of 5,796.6 to one. One gallon of gasoline = 5,796.6 gallons of HHO.

[OriginalUncleNemo]

Why don't we just compare apples to Astronauts? Or, Fleas to Elephants. Gaseous Hydrogen can not be compared to liquid gasoline. Instead, use liquid Hydrogen to liquid Gasoline with their respective minimum oxygen requirements..

[EnergySupply2008]

Any volume of any fuel can be compared as long as one knows the energy content of a given amount of each fuel. Very easy to look up online.

[theoneagain]

need more hydrogen gas

30 litres per minute on the fly

Thats the challenge

[EnergySupply2008]

That generator was barely running at about 1200 RPM, never mind the 3600 RPM it should run at.

[Xlay16]

ala nui mic :)

[waterwart]

are there any videos out there showing the hho cell being ran by the generator it is hooked up to AND under a load?

[mvlady]

Yea but they only work for a few minutes

[brentbps]

I saw a fellow on TV running a larger generator where the HHO was created by a welder, and the welder was run by the generator. Not sure how many watts were left for use tho'.

[ExtremeHydrogenLabs]

it would be nice to see the cell too,how do we know that you dont have a tank of hydrogen hooked upto that bubbler?

[cbateman9707]

You should out an F-16 Pulse King on your power source. You can buy this on ebay.

My HHO unit just went nuts.

[GSRJosh33]

Awsome!

[bunkyda]

hummm.. now plug the hho unit in to the generate and you will have free energy :)

[keekaykorapsa]

Did you also used an inverter like bob boyce's setup? If so, is it possible or help to use the ac electricity from one outlet of the generator rectify that to get high dc then connect it to the hho generator to power it, connect the hho output to the carburetor. that way you'll have a self contained perputating fuel-electricity power plant? Just wondering if it's viable.

[mjchauffe]

great video. I have just one doubt. Are you just sticking the hydroxy gas output hose as far as you can into the carburetor air intake? You are not doing anything special like sealing the air intake to make sure it only sucks in HHO from the cell?

[keekaykorapsa]

I think pure hydrogen would not work, you still need air in the mix. you're just substituting hydrogen instead of using gasoline or petrol.

[mymessagetomark]

how much amperage is going into the cell?And what is the power source?

[flaviandd]

Read video description.

Power source is mains for now.

[mymessagetomark]

by my calculations you are using 2070 watts to produce 500 watts.Thats about where my engine is. I've run a small 3 1/2 horse engine with a homebuilt hydrogen/oxygen generator but I just can't see how pulsing or modulatig can help. I hope you prove me wrong. Keep working maybe one of us can figure this out.Great video.

[petertrast]

How many HP is the engine? 2000w is about 2.7HP (746W=1HP). If the engine can produce about 3HP while drawing 2.7HP worth of power, that is an awesome efficiency rating of over 110%!!! That is not even counting the extra load of the light! Are you going to retard the spark and add a little air? I have seen many suggestions to this effect. Cannot wait to see your next run. I am subscribed! Be safe and keep trying!

[1WayBlues]

I agree with the timing and additional airflow comments. Also, what about the waist spark that many small engines have?!? I hope it only sparks upon compression instead of twice as often as is the case with many small engines. With that much HHO, the backfire could be catastrophic!

[sparc5]

I was sooo waiting for a flashback. This guy has balls.

[flaviandd]

I had a flashback once but nothing happened.

I used a filter and 2 bubblers and the gas comes out with pressure, so the flame would not reach the cell even if a flashback occurs.

For the next tests I built some proper bubblers and I'm looking to buy proper arrestors and one-way valves to avoid any risk.

[eliminategas]

I make the flash back arrestors if your interested in one over at my site eliminategas(dotcom, they are pressure tested and 100% work. I also have the MAP/MAF Enhancers for all vehicles at ebay item: 250276832270

[YouHelpBuild]

I notice that everyone is hooking their HHO into the air intake of the engines, and without having the opportunity to try it myself yet, I may be REAL off base, but wouldn't it be even better to actually connect it to the fuel intake (using a 2way valve in the place of the shut-off valve from the gasoline line) that way the throttle would be usable to adjust the fuel flow rather than simply pumping the HHO in 'raw'? I welcome any thoughts, ideas or advice.

[flaviandd]

The fuel line is not large enough, think about how the gas gets injected inside a carburetor and you will understand why you must use the air intake for adding the HHO.

[YouHelpBuild]

Thanks. I'm obviously just an avid enthusiast and am working without the benefit of any advanced education in these areas. Although I am a little confused by one thing you might help me understand. If gasoline, being a liquid, can flow through the fuel line, and if liquids are 'thicker' than gasses, why wouldn't enough hho (or any gaseous fuel) flow thru enough? I got the idea from what i read about LP Gas conversions for cars (which is gaseous after it leaves the storage system). thanks

[lilbs67]

I built a system that produced 3.5 to 4 LPM and I tried adding the supply line between the MAP sensor and the throttle body and noticed no difference for engine RPM. However; when I added it to the Intake side, having manifold vaccum I noticed a huge difference in engine RPM. But you will need to use your flow valve in reverse so you can regulate the amount of vaccum going to your debubbler. Too much vaccum will pull water into the engine!Use OceanSpray bottle for reference, 2 much will collapse

[aaronisdumbusa]

can you get overunity from this set up.

[ShutterbugW]

hmm generator powering cell while running, = near self sustaining lol. after all you need to add oil once in a while and top off the cell lol.

[bulldogge1232000]

Very nice!! It's great to see a practical application.

Spike

[coquivagabundo]

try also reducing the amount of ambient air little by little,it will give a stronger stoich. ratio. since H an O ignites at 2:1(very strong ratio). (2) being air at 14lpm you already have 9.33 parts of O for every 4.67 of H, IF, on top of that you add ambient air(open throttle) then your SR is not strong enough. that is why you are playing with either the choke or the throttle cable I would reduce the intake size. keeping the same 14lpm unchanged. try at your own risk.

[coquivagabundo]

correction its 9.33 parts of H per every 4.67 of O. (H2)O.

if the previous don't work try the opposite and reduce the amount of gas a little.

[ednja]

Lozory's comment is a good point. Are you adding energy from an outside electrical source, or is the AC generator providing the electrical for the hydroxy generator. Also, can you show a video with a load plugged into the AC generator to show how it does under load? I can see that you have put alot of work into this. Keep up the good work and thank you for sharing it on here.

[flaviandd]

There is a 500W lamp as LOAD. Please read description and download high-definition video.

[lozory]

so can that generator running on HHO power your HHO gen?

[zobel929]

wow 14 lpm and no electronics? do you sell this or give instructions on how to build the hho generator?

[flaviandd]

It's a Bob Boyce cell, you can find lots of instructions on the net on how to build it.

I might sell it but is quite heavy and delivery would cost a lot for you considering I would be sending it from Romania (eastern europe) to US.

[coquivagabundo]

Try a smaller size hose. or reduce pressure at the tip. what is the size of that engine? 50cc?

you might be flooding the engine.

[jdcmusicman]

great demonstration

[thinslice]

Thats amazing! Keep up the good work.