I think what he is saying is we need a smaller government and we need to understand what government is and why we need it. It's nothing to blindly die for. Or we may as well have pure anarchy, maybe it wouldn't be bad at all if we could shake of this brainwashing we all suffer from.
-his rhetoric makes me nervous, come quick to the point and stop beating about the bush ! God ! 5 minutes and still of bla bla bla ! you speak like those makeup females !
-this guy is an anarchist : government is what allows you to walk fairly secure outside or send your kids to school without the fear of them being kidnapped. Watch that movie called "The Road" (if I recall well), cannibalism aside,this is what anarchy may lead to.
At the risk of tipping my hand (because I haven't properly introduced myself to Stefan, *yet*...) :
This is one of the very few points on which I disagree with Stefan -- namely, that a vote for Ron Paul is merely a vote for personal freedom.
A vote for Ron Paul is more than just a vote for freedom. It's a vote to tear down the wretched system that we have. SURELY(?) it would be/will be easier to free ourselves once we delete some of the evil.
Your free man/woman philosophy reeks of the "I am here to get mine, I don't care about the rest of you" state of mind we are already suffering from today. True, being happier than the people in government may make them envious, but they are motivated by power, not our sense of happiness. I don't understand how our happiness will change the government. And in their power hungry state (large and in charge!) they may see your happiness as a threat and write laws against it or tax the fun away.
It only reeks of that to you because A) you have been brainwashed by the state and its surrogates, and B) you haven't watched enough of Stefan's material.
Stefan is a kind, compassionate, loving husband and father who believes very strongly in voluntary donations to the less fortunate among us.
I'm unemployed right now, and don't have much money to bet. But I'd bet a significant portion of it on this: You don't donate to charity much (if at all), and Stefan does.
@JaredJosephHoag A) What?! Where did you get this idea? I clearly stated the problem with politians is their greed for power. B) I have watched a few of his videos and gave him the thumbs up when I have agreed with him.
What difference does it make if he is a loving husband and father?
And correct I have not donated to charity in some time. I, like too many right now, have been using every dime to dig my own way out of debt. Again, what does that have to do with the topic?
Well, given what little information you've provided, my impression of you is obviously just that.
Slaves often insult their masters. It doesn't mean they aren't slaves. The same goes for mental slaves.
You suggested that Stefan feels/thinks "I am here to get mine, I don't care about the rest of you". Please help me; I fail to see how you could come up with such a suggestion, absent indoctrination.
As to what difference it makes -- compassion for others begins at home.
Anyway, all I was attempting to point out is that you're accusing this man of selfishness and greed, while it seems more likely to me that he's helped other people more than you have. I just don't get how you can do it with a straight face. Of course, now I'm feeling the need to go ask Stefan how much he contributes/has contributed to charity. I hope I don't end up with egg on my face ;).
@JaredJosephHoag Okay Jared, I watched the vid again. I wasnt attacking Stef, I was pointing out that by ignoring our politics/country/government and living a "free and joyful" life on your own is the "I am here to get mine, I don't care about the rest of you" state of mind we are living in today. I empathize with Stef about living a joyful life in spite of the world's problems, but we need to gather the masses to make a difference. And I hope you do not have "egg on your face" either. Peace!
I agree with you points about people being apathetic and how voting and sending emails about the feb really wont solve anything. But once you get into your "climb the mountain" and "live free and happy" talk, you lose me. What does even mean? You don't explain. How does that help someone who is unemployed, or struggling at thier job to make ends meat? It just sounds like abunch of rhetoric with no real substance.
I agree with you points about people being apathetic and how voting and sending emails about the feb really wont solve anything. But once you get into your "climb the mountain" and "live free and happy" talk, you lose me. What does even mean? You don't explain. How does that help someone who is unemployed, or struggling at thier job to make ends meat? It just sounds like abunch of rhetoric with no real substance.
This man had more brains in his left little toenail at birth than you will have collected your entire life. Please, for your sake and ours: shut the fuck up and stop posting idiotic, uninformed, offensive, resource-wasting comments on the tubez.
This is the fourth video I've watched of yours and once again you are ignoring the real human reality that people are being murdered overseas on a daily basis by this regime and Ron Paul wants to put a stop to that... at least to the best of his ability. How can you ethically deny him and all those people an opportunity to at least try for a reprieve from the senseless murder? Even if full blown statism comes crashing back in a few years time, won't it be nice to at least say we tried??
Spreading the message of peace,freedom and a return to limited government is the goal of Ron Paul and running for president is the best possible platform to spread that message,even though the mainstream media tries to ignore him.That is why I support him.
Suppose someone is truly free, and wishes to spread this freedom to others. Wouldn't supporting Ron Paul be a practical place to start? Before the 2008 election, I was completey apathetic. Ron Paul cured my apathy. This doesn't mean I put all my hope in his (or any libertarian's) election as a path to liberty. But the libertarian message is compelling, and I believe it is a healthy force for freedom.
BTW, if I had never heard of Ron Paul, I would have never found your channel :P
I just want some concrete things. I want to work without a mountain of bureaucracy and half of my work stolen from me, smoke weed and travel around without the threat of kidnapping by men in costumes. If a politician offers this, (and I see by his voting record that he really means it) I'll go with him and at the same time SHOW what living free means (take the advice of Stef).
If I try to do it otherwise, I'll end up kidnapped and put in a cage (I know, I tried).
This guy says America was designed to be the smallest govt & now that it has turned into this big-govt monster is the reason that a small govt will authomatically give way to big govt & I'd agree, masses are too stupid & it'll happen but then same argument can be made about anarchy that anarchy is by nature unsustainable for long periods & will always result in tyranny or mobocracy or monarchy or some such thing which worse than elected minarchy so what's the point of advocating anarchy anyway!
This guy is preposterous if he thinks that us not voting in elections, etc is going to get us our freedoms; I'm a minarchist but I empathize with anarchists & maybe I'll be one in future but I just can't pretend that majority who's addicted & dependent on big-govt is just going to switch to anarchy, NOT GONNA HAPPEN, anarchy will've to TRANSITION THRU minarchy; minarchist-society will be more open to anarchy than current big-govt-society so voting in minarchist/anarchist politicians is way to go
He mentions it in many of his videos, he's an anarchist, he advises people to not vote & thinks that if people stopped voting, somehow, those in power will relinquish it; he believes that anarchy is a sustainable state of society, even though history & basic study of human nature disproves that.
@lomocan 1)Based upon the philosophical theory developed by Stefan Molyneux (free on his freedomain radio website) a society without government IS possible.
2) If YouTube were run by minarchist politicians, I'd vote for someone who would make sure that comments like yours would be censored.
I really like the vid and think its a great message, but I must say one thing. They have a "philosophy" in west Africa, where I had the "pleasure" of serving for one year while in the military and that is to "suffer and smile". They know they are being oppressed and are forced to live on a few dollars a day, so I say we can't give up the political fight, even if Paul doesn't win, we still send a message by just existing in the minority...
Stef.....I watched your interview on Max Keiser today and was so impressed with what you had to say I came back to your site of which I subscribe to but infrequently visit and this video absolutely moved me ......thank you !
Stef.....I watched your interview on Max Keiser today and was so impressed with what you had to say I came back to your site of which I subscribe to but infrequently visit and this video absolutely moved me ......thank you !
Almost all his points are about you being a happy slave, with your beatings in your cell and the solution is to believe in the future 'coming' several generations away... by becoming intelligent, growing etc.' so you can produce more as human in captivity and escape in your delusions of freedom, that you are a free person and that is what counts so smile with your gov beatings? Say 50% payment why stop there? When they start making human skin lamp shades will his personal freedom still work?
I voted only once and that was for Ron Paul and yes, I am a anachrst and when I look at Pauls voting record, I realised that I should have not voted at all.
why not? RP wants freedom from government... that s what anarchist want right? unless of course you are socialist-anarchish (but that doesn't really make sense, does it?)
I can argue against some of what you said but honestly, the ending message is resounding and many people I know who are hard line capitalists/communists/democrats/republicans/etc, including myself, would benefit from this sort of view.
I'm with you on all of your arguments. I slipped and voted once in my life, when I was young and omniscient. Now, at 56 I can at least say with pride that saw through the ruse and refused to play the game. Kudos, fellow Canadian.
I understand what you're talking about. I have been an anarchist for over five years now and yes, I have climed the mountain. For years, just like you, I tried to convince other people and I truly did waste time. I met a fellow anarchist, told me the error of my ways and I have leared much from him. He really helped me so much and I informed him how much I have grown and I have joined your cause stefbot. To become a anarchist, is to truly become free.
@stefbot I still don't see you offering any answers to the impending policestate that IS being built around us, because you can believe what you want, but when the inevitable happens and the US dollar crashes, the infrastructure is there for a policestate, and I can GUARANTEE you when this happens , your philosophy isn't going to amount to much, and we will ALL be a lot less free than we are now. When you discuss this, I may start to take your arguments against politics seriously.
Ron paul isn't freedom. you cannot have freedom if those above you in the workplace are appointed and if there is any hierarchy. To have freedom you must eliminate capitalism
you have freedom to make something out of yourselv,, being handed other people's money (as in marxism) is not freedom, that's theft.. Besides capitalism creates wealth, socialism relies on capitalism, or else socialism will create poverty (for everyone)... socialism sucks
I don't you understand what capitralism is... you should know that wall street and the banks and big business are all very cozy with the government.. that's capitalism.. that's big corporatism... nothing is simple eh?
I'm not sure how you can call subsidization, minimum wage laws (driving our competitors), tax incentives, protectionism, barriers to entry, and other governmental advantages that Wal-Mart has free market capitalism......in fact, free market capitalism calls for none of this! The only thing that anarchists disagree with minarchists about capitalism is on property rights. Most anarchists do not people that the state should acknowledge property rights, while minarchists see it as a state of nature.
Wal-Mart does not have a free market capitalism system. It never did. Despite being a supreme predator, Wal-Mart receives nothing but praise from Zionist Jewish-owned newspapers. During most of Sam Walton's reign, Wal-Mart had a worker turnover rate of an incredible 35-45%. It has driven over 100,000 small stores out of business. I truly think that you don't know about the zionist creation of "capitalism".
No, you are indeed wrong about capitalism being debated before Israel came into existence. First of all, the jews created the corrupted capitalism and usuary (which is a sin if you're a christian). Zionists is only a political term that jews hide behind since they created this fiancial depression in the first place. Try reading the Protocols of Zion.
You should read something besides Jewish Conspiracies.
Capitalism is the concept of private property, are you saying Jews created the concept of private ownership of property? If so, when and how? Don't tell me to read books, i already have a reading list, and i don't have that much time
Israel, the state, has only been around for 60+ years. Karl Marx and Adam Smith were talking about capitalism in the1700's and 1800's
When did the "jews" invent capitalism, and how do you define it?
Capitalism is NOT the concept of private property. You have been misinformed and yes, I am going to tell you to read a book, how else will you every learn the truth. I know that you're wrong and I am not talking about the state of Israel. The banking industry, usuary, have been created by jews and they were kicked out of 80 countries because of the ponzi scheme known as "free markets". Can't believe everything the "Austrian" school says.
You quote "you are not worth my time" if that is the case then why did you choose to respond? If I was truly not worth your time, you would have not respond at all. It's not my fault that you don't read history and who truly created the ponzi scheme known as capitalism.
Sorry, but you really need to read a book because you are indeed misinformed about capitalism and it does not work. It's a massive scheme based of a private bank that controls most of a country currency. This is why the U.S wants to go to war with Iran and most of the middle east because of usuary (jew created interest). Yes, capitalism is a jew created scheme.
Sorry, but I went to school and also, I read books that they don't even teach in school. Nice try though with the insults, but seriously, please do more research.
this is not true capitalism, that is big corporatism and wall-street being in bed with the government... this is just the side-effect of bigger government and keynesian economics
@RobertChavis How about you look at your daily life and realize how capitalism benefits you, citizen/consumer. You could become a produce but the main point of capitalism is choice. Get that through your numbskull.
@pSychOAtDawn Ah, insults. Capitalism does not benefit the citizen or the consumer. Wal-Mart have already proven this with it's robber baron ways. Yes, sam walton is a robber barron from the 60's. Please do more research before you type. It is in your best interst to do so.
@RobertChavis Haha. I think it's in your best interest to hear the other side of the story before you completely discourage the notion of a free market. The reason why Wal-Mart is a prick is because the consumers don't give a fuck and Wal-Mart is becoming globalized. Thank NAFTA and GAT for that. Read "A History of Money and Banking in the United States" by Murray N. Rothbard. That will give you an insider besides what you hear from the biased government view on capitalism. Think actively.
I'm a bit of an Anarchist but I do consider myself a Libertarian.
Now you can argue that the end result is big government, but you can also argue that the end result of that is revolution and freedom. You're being a bit pessimistic in that sense. But definetly people need to be free within themselves in their heads before being free physically from the outside forces. Like it or not, you can be free in your head but still be in prison for nothing, there is no happiness there.
I can definetly see what you're saying about being free in your life. I consider myself free in the sense of I do what I want without worrying about consequence and without worrying about the status quo. However, there is no way to be completely happy and feel free while my money is being stolen and more police are showing up and making my life difficult. I can care less about being rich, or having a nice car or nice clothes I just want to be able to do what I want to do.
...and good. There is an argument to be made that politics is just a waste of time. That powerful men and the easily misled masses cannot be overcome with reason and a yearning for justice--maybe "freedom" isn't appealing to enough people. Why talk about so many other things, though? Why attempt to educate folks on the nature of the State if this is the case? Isn't Stefbot doing that which he is advising US against doing? Trying to convince OTHERS to ascribe to a certain value system?
If I grow a marijuana plant on [what is supposedely] my property, to smoke in the privacy of my own home...and govt agents bust me and haul me off to prison...have I "lived free"?
As much as Steph rails against "The Man", and as brilliant as most of his statements are, sometimes what he says really boils down to: "We're all slaves, always have been, maybe always will be--unless the whole of mankind simultaneously adopts the precepts of anarchy. Don't worry, be happy."
I was, and am, a Ron Paul supporter. I wasn't under any illusions that he would actually win, and thought his candidacy, in itself, was a minor miracle.
Steph is probably right that there is nothing we can do to affect positive change in DC. Maybe not even in our own States, or even towns.
However, how does one "live free"--in spite of the Govt--when the govt controls so much of our lives? Am I to think myself free when the Govt comes and takes my child away (mandatory schooling)?
Non-Hiarchical organization is the only way to free each individual from the tyranny of any power. Anarchism is the solution, fuck government and fuck religion. If you have faith, that is fine, just don't impose laws on others. Each human being should be free! specially the suffering oppressed in the "developing" world that make all that we consume under horrible conditions. Anarchism is freedom, anything else is reactionary: fascism!
"Non-Hiarchical organization is the only way to free each individual from the tyranny of any power. Anarchism is the solution, fuck government and fuck religion"
Hierarchy is part of nature, some're stronger others are not; some are intelligent others are not,etc & have things in different variations but evolution progresses thru differences & hierarchy, that's why nature overthrows every attempt of homogenization of species like communism/socialism for example.
"just don't impose laws on others. Each human being should be free"
You say that everyone should be free & laws must NOT be IMPOSED on others & then go on to IMPOSE a law onto others ie that there be no hierarchy, why??? Hierarchy is natural order of nature, tool of evolution so if people are left to make their choice & be free, even WITHOUT any force or coercion or violence, there will arise a hierarchy & if you oppose it then you're NOT for freedom to be honest
How can one really be free when our money and freedom are limited by laws (which will put you in jail) You try not paying taxes, taking the law into your own hand by shooting the thugs who terrorize society, or hanging the politicians who enslve us all via taxes and corrupt dealings and You will have a jail sentence. "No philosophy" will set you free like true action will. We must live in the physical..not hypothetical world. Ron Paul was that "vehicle". Now, we must come up with a "plan B"
The only lasting peace you will ever achieve is through Jesus Christ. Until HE comes AGIN, it is up to US to defend/fight tyrany to the death (gotta die anyway..why not for your children's freedom?) America is doomed.
Good video. Very inspiring. I totally know what you're talking about. The message is very existentialist and it views libertarianism as more than a political philosophy.
But I still want to fight the state. Why not be both spiritually free and physically free? Why not have the best of both worlds.
Tyrany is at hand I am afraid. The USA will fall without a shot ever being fired"..Joe Stallin (killed millions of his own people) America was lost while fat "sheeple" sat on the couch watching sport figures make millions,Oprah talk, and Matt Damon trash America. "Slaves must be disarmed"..Adolf Hitler
Steph, I find that its hard for me to let go of the idea that I can achieve more freedom now by voting for freedom loving people (or at least people who will restore our freedoms on our behalf). I see where you are coming from intellectually, but maybe I have to see this fail for myself.
This is just a Dr. Phil/Oprah approach to responding to a setback. Wordy, yet theraputic. And true, for the most part.
The victims are fighters though. They will continue fighting! And they must cast a vote!
Ron Paul supporters will continue fighting for liberty and justice for all by throwing their support toward another similar candidate, like Nader, for example. Go Nader! Be free AND contribute to our nation's future. Now that's a great idea!
My campaign for the office of President of the USA in 2008 is a tremendous learning experience. Every Presidential candidate should experience what I have these past 12 months.
My reason for running had to do with the fact that I did not find a candidate who impressed me that they seriously intended deliver any of their promises.
My campaign website is WorldWideWeb(dot)PortablePublishing(dot)com
Look forward to working with you to repair our government.
Gobbledygook. He seems to be advocating the very nihilism he spoke against in the beginning of the video. Freedom and personal growth are not at all the same thing.
Your mountains are IMAGINARY, mine are REAL (If I have to spell it out for you, p-o-t).
So this mountain of philosophy is merely an exercise in practicing liberty. Meanwhile, I still have no job. Nice try at consolation, you are more articulate than most taking this position. I'm just now coming to terms with this, thanks for kind of giving a shit and being somewhat nice to us.
Most others at this time weren't, and I have avoided much discourse since because of it.
the price of living truly free even though you don't lie, cheat,steal, rob, rape, pillage, burn or murder is going to prison from time to time and hope fully you won't live under the type of harsh governments we have to live under here in the u.s.a. which likes to send you to prison just so they can make you a ward of the state for life and a profit off of you with their private prison stocks which keep steadily rising due to private prison lobbied harsher mandatory sentences.
We were not founded as a DEMOCRACY we were found as a REPUBLIC. Democracy is mob rule that eventually leads to socialism which leads to communism. We have to go the other way instead of the way we are going. If everybody just ignored their governments they would have to go away.
So how can you be a "free spirit" if you remove yourself from politics and remove yourself from having "a say" in of all these important decsions of our everyday lives? If you have another podcast for me to watch on behalf of this argument, please send me the link.
Furthermore, politics is for weak minded simpletons. The act of voting is the act of an incompetant; you can't make decisions for youself, so, you elect someone to make one for you. Free people do, they don't ask permission.
Yes I see your point... but, good luck removing yourself from politics and believing that you can use I don't know... osmosis to provide (we can again go back to your example on eggs) the kind of eggs on the shelf you want and desire...
Mr. Stef, I'm not sure if I agree with the argument you are presenting .. To my understanding, politics affects our lives significantly. From the purity of the foods you ingest to the production of the goods that you purchase - are the result of political decisions, i.e. conceptions of the good life. So it appears politics greatly influence the choices of your life too.
Which politicians produce food? When has inspector #42 bust into your home,"DON'T eat that egg! It's BAD!" Voting is the act of a political incompetant. If you cannot make decisions for yourself, you need someone to make them for you. Like your pimp government. The sooner you realize you are someones trick, the better off you will be. Rawls was a chump, his "good life" garbage is simply that, a heap of stinking refuse.
Hmmm I don't think you completely understand... Let's build up upon your example... Even though inspector #42 doesn't bust into your home... when you actually go to the grocery store, what kinds of eggs are on the shelves? Who decides whether or not chemicals are sprayed onto your food? Etc.
Keep biulding, point is government cant, an' don't protect you. There is no duty to protect. Thats why we don't go to the cop shop for a new car when they fail to catch a thief. But you are right, I don't know my head from my mama's hole, HUH? Fly that out you left side and see what flaps.
If you gotta vote for a sure winner, then why waste your time voting?
Democracy means you vote for someone who represent your views.
Ron Paul represent the supporter's view, they vote him also honoring democracy.
So those who are asking why Ron Paul's having enthusiastic grass root supporters, check him out, he may be saying what your views more than you think. Listen before you criticize.
Some truthful comments. The MSM is clearly part of the current move to corporate fascism, and therefore the media blackout. I think initially Paul wanted to educate people, and later - with enthusiasm - the goal is to win. He has a plan B, and not let the movement go down into irrelevance like the Reform Party etc if he were to run as an independent unsuccessfully. There is still a chance for a brokered convention.
But steph - how can we be living the example of freedom if we pay taxes?
Like you said - running around begging for your freedom won't work, and by comparison running around telling people that you pay taxes won't work either.
Stop giving your labor to evil men. Forget the consequences; consequences are things that you never have control over anyway. But what you DO have control over is the ability to choose whether or not your labor gets paid to EVIL MEN who would implement those consequences onto you.
Thus, while they decide whether you live or die...
Dude, this is all very nice, but its completely impractical in the world we live in.
Supporting someone like Ron Paul (or any anti-war candidate), for me, is about freeing people around the world from the hegemony of the USA. This effects me on a compassionate level, and on a survival level. Stirring up so much hatred in the world will end in more 9/11's.
You're probably right, but the simple fact is that there is a major problem in the world, stemming from US foreign policy.
Its all well and good striving for self-fulfillment, and not really giving a shit about the government, but spare a thought for the Iraqi who town has been desecrated, or the Palestinian who is being oppressed by the IDF, propped up by the American government.
America is stirring up an unprecedented amount of hatred in the world, putting everyone at risk. Change can only come from the govt itself, or the realization by the people that their govt is totally corrupt. Neither one will work because most politicians are in the pockets of lobby groups, and all of the population is swathed in propaganda.
So while trying to convince people of the problem is often done in vain, retreating into a quiet little existence is not the compassionate thing to do.
Well, America doesn't exist. So no change can come from non-existence. Thus instead of trying to bolster a thing that does not exist (America), looking towards trying to trust the individuals who call themselves government is, of course, not a solution because the problems are coming from the individuals themselves. "Saving government" cannot save that which is non-existent. It can only save those who claim to be "government" - the people you don't want to save. Plus, why rely on coercion?
Well if democracy is tyrrany by majority libertarians need to form a majority. Voting (even if you just write yourself in) lets us see how we are doing.
Another thing I forgot to point out in my vid response is that, doesn't your own logic defeat your point? If small government leads to big government tyrany, what will no government lead to? Won't it eventually lead to an even BIGGER government than small government ever would?
The sad thing is intellectuals (like you) are the first to get rounded up during tyranny. Totally agree with the "no fear" idea, but educating others and using group actions are necessary to real change. Good luck with your path though!
You mean it hasn't worked since the founding of the USA? How about India leaving the commonwealth? Ending segregation? Stopping the Vietnam war? These are the least violent examples I can come up with on short notice.
I do like your videos btw, just don't completely agree.
Hundreds of thousands of Indians were killed in partition, which led straight to British-inspired socialism under Nehru. Using the state to try to end racism effectively stopped the economic progress of blacks etc etc. Try to go beyond the myths to the facts themselves.
Steph - total freedom includes freedom from income tax. "living a free life" would include not being forced to pay for more chains on your legs with the labor that comes from your current chains. And so long as they are receiving free labor they will exist and push on, just as you previously stated when addressing "the smallest government experiment" in another video. Plus, it is simply impossible to see freedom ahead if you are paying for further enslavement through forced taxation.
Well you should strain every muscle then to eliminate the income tax, and see if that makes you feel free... If you succeed, you have definitely proved your argument, and I will be the first to apologize.
What I realized about gaining freedom through political means is that were there enough people who would vote for Ron Paul to get him elected, there would be enough people to disobey all tax laws of the state and bring it down. No elections required, no pretending allegiance to the fake contract of the Constitution
Besides just not paying taxes, there would be enough police to boycott enforcing the tax laws and enough people to quit doing business with any enforcers who continue trying to enforce tax laws. This would leave all those people who believe this government does good with taxes to have the option of continuing to subscribe to the current government
The practices of the United States federal government will eventually lead to a revolution against itself. More and more people will see that too much power in the government has created our problems.
I only hope that the lovers of liberty can change the direction before the government causes more harsh and violent times...
Thats all fine but i dont like giving my money to ppl that are working for me that do a terrible job.Dont want my tax dollars to be spent on killing and waste,i want them all to be fired and get there azz in the unemployment line...then i would truly feel better if they all just got fired...donald trump vp he can fire them 1by 1 and have a series out of it..
While I think there is some merit to what you're saying, I think you miss the point of Ron Paul supporters. See I think the majority of us are not fighting for our own personal freedom, but the freedom of our children and others now and in the future. Would your advice apply to jews in Nazi Germany? Would you give this advice to a father who has a son in the military serving in Iraq? Would they be happy if they themselves achieved this "personal freedom" you speak of, of course not.
We support Ron Paul because he understands this and although you cannot control the state, you cannot ignore it and hope it gets better by you showing people how personaly free you are. We also know that if Ron Paul doesn't get elected it is not the end, we have awoken many people and the public debate has changed and ideas that weren't prominent out in discussion is now being talked about.
WAY TO BEAT YOUR POINT TO DEATH WITH A STICK! YOU SHOULD STOP SPEAKING AND START LISTENING, YOU MIGHT GROW A BRAIN!! MAYBE .....
ROSKER48 1 week ago
I think what he is saying is we need a smaller government and we need to understand what government is and why we need it. It's nothing to blindly die for. Or we may as well have pure anarchy, maybe it wouldn't be bad at all if we could shake of this brainwashing we all suffer from.
jamesregmorris 4 weeks ago
I stopped watching at 5 minutes for 2 raesons :
-his rhetoric makes me nervous, come quick to the point and stop beating about the bush ! God ! 5 minutes and still of bla bla bla ! you speak like those makeup females !
-this guy is an anarchist : government is what allows you to walk fairly secure outside or send your kids to school without the fear of them being kidnapped. Watch that movie called "The Road" (if I recall well), cannibalism aside,this is what anarchy may lead to.
Washingstone 1 month ago
@Washingstone look up anarcho-capitilism
tranquillitist 3 weeks ago
American's have failed the Constitution, not the other way around. You should take a look at the Progressive movement
Plus, trying to free yourself from some abstract shackles your whole life seems like kind of a waste when you could be helping others.
wilson38115 1 month ago
At the risk of tipping my hand (because I haven't properly introduced myself to Stefan, *yet*...) :
This is one of the very few points on which I disagree with Stefan -- namely, that a vote for Ron Paul is merely a vote for personal freedom.
A vote for Ron Paul is more than just a vote for freedom. It's a vote to tear down the wretched system that we have. SURELY(?) it would be/will be easier to free ourselves once we delete some of the evil.
Step 1: Elect Ron Paul
Step 2: Pursue anarchy
JaredJosephHoag 2 months ago
A very long winded babbler. This guy needs lessons getting to the friggin point.
Twicebakedtaters 2 months ago
@Twicebakedtaters
He knows that.
JaredJosephHoag 2 months ago
Your free man/woman philosophy reeks of the "I am here to get mine, I don't care about the rest of you" state of mind we are already suffering from today. True, being happier than the people in government may make them envious, but they are motivated by power, not our sense of happiness. I don't understand how our happiness will change the government. And in their power hungry state (large and in charge!) they may see your happiness as a threat and write laws against it or tax the fun away.
ZzipZzowie 3 months ago
@ZzipZzowie
It only reeks of that to you because A) you have been brainwashed by the state and its surrogates, and B) you haven't watched enough of Stefan's material.
Stefan is a kind, compassionate, loving husband and father who believes very strongly in voluntary donations to the less fortunate among us.
I'm unemployed right now, and don't have much money to bet. But I'd bet a significant portion of it on this: You don't donate to charity much (if at all), and Stefan does.
JaredJosephHoag 2 months ago
@JaredJosephHoag A) What?! Where did you get this idea? I clearly stated the problem with politians is their greed for power. B) I have watched a few of his videos and gave him the thumbs up when I have agreed with him.
What difference does it make if he is a loving husband and father?
And correct I have not donated to charity in some time. I, like too many right now, have been using every dime to dig my own way out of debt. Again, what does that have to do with the topic?
ZzipZzowie 2 months ago
@ZzipZzowie
Well, given what little information you've provided, my impression of you is obviously just that.
Slaves often insult their masters. It doesn't mean they aren't slaves. The same goes for mental slaves.
You suggested that Stefan feels/thinks "I am here to get mine, I don't care about the rest of you". Please help me; I fail to see how you could come up with such a suggestion, absent indoctrination.
As to what difference it makes -- compassion for others begins at home.
JaredJosephHoag 2 months ago
@ZzipZzowie
Youtube character limit, I hate thee! (Sort of.)
Anyway, all I was attempting to point out is that you're accusing this man of selfishness and greed, while it seems more likely to me that he's helped other people more than you have. I just don't get how you can do it with a straight face. Of course, now I'm feeling the need to go ask Stefan how much he contributes/has contributed to charity. I hope I don't end up with egg on my face ;).
JaredJosephHoag 2 months ago
@JaredJosephHoag Okay Jared, I watched the vid again. I wasnt attacking Stef, I was pointing out that by ignoring our politics/country/government and living a "free and joyful" life on your own is the "I am here to get mine, I don't care about the rest of you" state of mind we are living in today. I empathize with Stef about living a joyful life in spite of the world's problems, but we need to gather the masses to make a difference. And I hope you do not have "egg on your face" either. Peace!
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I agree with you points about people being apathetic and how voting and sending emails about the feb really wont solve anything. But once you get into your "climb the mountain" and "live free and happy" talk, you lose me. What does even mean? You don't explain. How does that help someone who is unemployed, or struggling at thier job to make ends meat? It just sounds like abunch of rhetoric with no real substance.
SmokingNtheGraveyard 4 months ago
@SmokingNtheGraveyard about the Fed* opps
SmokingNtheGraveyard 4 months ago
I agree with you points about people being apathetic and how voting and sending emails about the feb really wont solve anything. But once you get into your "climb the mountain" and "live free and happy" talk, you lose me. What does even mean? You don't explain. How does that help someone who is unemployed, or struggling at thier job to make ends meat? It just sounds like abunch of rhetoric with no real substance.
SmokingNtheGraveyard 4 months ago
wow. u talk way too much and make no point. grow brain and hair while ur at it.
tjsace1 4 months ago
@tjsace1
This man had more brains in his left little toenail at birth than you will have collected your entire life. Please, for your sake and ours: shut the fuck up and stop posting idiotic, uninformed, offensive, resource-wasting comments on the tubez.
JaredJosephHoag 2 months ago
He selling you his product. maybe its a good product but he's making a duechbag of himself. I hate him for that.
MrGreco2100 5 months ago
yes ok, I wanted to learn something but your reiterations are just too much.
mieliav 6 months ago
This is the fourth video I've watched of yours and once again you are ignoring the real human reality that people are being murdered overseas on a daily basis by this regime and Ron Paul wants to put a stop to that... at least to the best of his ability. How can you ethically deny him and all those people an opportunity to at least try for a reprieve from the senseless murder? Even if full blown statism comes crashing back in a few years time, won't it be nice to at least say we tried??
sterlinguini 7 months ago 20
@sterlinguini well said.
IcyScythe 2 months ago
Spreading the message of peace,freedom and a return to limited government is the goal of Ron Paul and running for president is the best possible platform to spread that message,even though the mainstream media tries to ignore him.That is why I support him.
EDTHEWATERGUY 7 months ago
you talk too much, please get to the point.
Ragedyrag17 11 months ago
Suppose someone is truly free, and wishes to spread this freedom to others. Wouldn't supporting Ron Paul be a practical place to start? Before the 2008 election, I was completey apathetic. Ron Paul cured my apathy. This doesn't mean I put all my hope in his (or any libertarian's) election as a path to liberty. But the libertarian message is compelling, and I believe it is a healthy force for freedom.
BTW, if I had never heard of Ron Paul, I would have never found your channel :P
Metalloveica 1 year ago
I just want some concrete things. I want to work without a mountain of bureaucracy and half of my work stolen from me, smoke weed and travel around without the threat of kidnapping by men in costumes. If a politician offers this, (and I see by his voting record that he really means it) I'll go with him and at the same time SHOW what living free means (take the advice of Stef).
If I try to do it otherwise, I'll end up kidnapped and put in a cage (I know, I tried).
Stef 1 - Ron Paul 2
bugogorac 1 year ago
This guy says America was designed to be the smallest govt & now that it has turned into this big-govt monster is the reason that a small govt will authomatically give way to big govt & I'd agree, masses are too stupid & it'll happen but then same argument can be made about anarchy that anarchy is by nature unsustainable for long periods & will always result in tyranny or mobocracy or monarchy or some such thing which worse than elected minarchy so what's the point of advocating anarchy anyway!
lomocan 1 year ago
This guy is preposterous if he thinks that us not voting in elections, etc is going to get us our freedoms; I'm a minarchist but I empathize with anarchists & maybe I'll be one in future but I just can't pretend that majority who's addicted & dependent on big-govt is just going to switch to anarchy, NOT GONNA HAPPEN, anarchy will've to TRANSITION THRU minarchy; minarchist-society will be more open to anarchy than current big-govt-society so voting in minarchist/anarchist politicians is way to go
lomocan 1 year ago
@lomocan I missed that part of the video where this guy says we need to switch to anarchy....can you help me out?
eyejudgeeverything 1 year ago
@eyejudgeeverything
He mentions it in many of his videos, he's an anarchist, he advises people to not vote & thinks that if people stopped voting, somehow, those in power will relinquish it; he believes that anarchy is a sustainable state of society, even though history & basic study of human nature disproves that.
lomocan 1 year ago
@lomocan Ok, so he does not mention it in this video where your comment is posted....as per my initial question, correct?
eyejudgeeverything 1 year ago
@lomocan please help me understand why voting is not preposterous?
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eyejudgeeverything 1 year ago
@lomocan 1)Based upon the philosophical theory developed by Stefan Molyneux (free on his freedomain radio website) a society without government IS possible.
2) If YouTube were run by minarchist politicians, I'd vote for someone who would make sure that comments like yours would be censored.
eyejudgeeverything 1 year ago
@eyejudgeeverything
"Based upon the philosophical theory developed by Stefan Molyneux (free on his freedomain radio website) a society without government IS possible"
Everything's possible IN THEORY, even communist/socialist-utopias.
"If YouTube were run by minarchist politicians, I'd vote for someone who would make sure that comments like yours would be censored"
If a politician believes in censoring speech then he would NOT be a minarchist, is that hard to understand?
lomocan 8 months ago
I really like the vid and think its a great message, but I must say one thing. They have a "philosophy" in west Africa, where I had the "pleasure" of serving for one year while in the military and that is to "suffer and smile". They know they are being oppressed and are forced to live on a few dollars a day, so I say we can't give up the political fight, even if Paul doesn't win, we still send a message by just existing in the minority...
bjbuonamici 1 year ago
Stef, you meant 2008, right? I'm translating this and want to be sure. Thanks a lot in advance.
FDRspanish 1 year ago
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Stef.....I watched your interview on Max Keiser today and was so impressed with what you had to say I came back to your site of which I subscribe to but infrequently visit and this video absolutely moved me ......thank you !
bbobrm 1 year ago
Stef.....I watched your interview on Max Keiser today and was so impressed with what you had to say I came back to your site of which I subscribe to but infrequently visit and this video absolutely moved me ......thank you !
bbobrm 1 year ago
I could have used this talk back when you originally made this video. :-|
NemaselsNeo 1 year ago
The Russian Anarchist and Emma Goldman learned this the hard way with the Bolsheviks.
Gettinghitonattheban 1 year ago
The truth will set you free !
Theladiesman04 1 year ago
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Ron Paul is a conservative lier who hates gays ..
r8qt7 1 year ago
Almost all his points are about you being a happy slave, with your beatings in your cell and the solution is to believe in the future 'coming' several generations away... by becoming intelligent, growing etc.' so you can produce more as human in captivity and escape in your delusions of freedom, that you are a free person and that is what counts so smile with your gov beatings? Say 50% payment why stop there? When they start making human skin lamp shades will his personal freedom still work?
LibertyJedi 2 years ago
Great post, but you do remind me of a cross between Max Headroom and William Shatner. No bad thing though.
flyattic 2 years ago
Not the harder you push it down the further it bounces, it should be the higher you hold it up, the further it will fall :)
Visfen 2 years ago
one of the best speech EVER :) Very impressive.
MaikUniversum 2 years ago
Oh, I guess I should have watched the rest of the video before commenting...
furyofbongos 2 years ago 4
Can it be argued that the smaller (less taxation regulation etc..) a government starts out, the larger and more tyrannical it will become?
Smaller = freer markets = greater wealth = greater potential taxation revenue = more taxation = greater power = increased tyranny.
So to argue for a smaller government is to ultimately argue for a larger government!
furyofbongos 2 years ago
I voted only once and that was for Ron Paul and yes, I am a anachrst and when I look at Pauls voting record, I realised that I should have not voted at all.
RobertChavis 2 years ago
why not? RP wants freedom from government... that s what anarchist want right? unless of course you are socialist-anarchish (but that doesn't really make sense, does it?)
Sivels 2 years ago
Nope, RP does not want freedom from government. He wants state government, not federal government. That is the point, he is a statist.
RobertChavis 2 years ago
here we are 2 years later...and ron paul was right..
sgentlemanjack112 2 years ago 2
Nope, ron paul is still wrong because a politician will not support "we the people". Just look at Obama.
RobertChavis 2 years ago
I can argue against some of what you said but honestly, the ending message is resounding and many people I know who are hard line capitalists/communists/democrats/republicans/etc, including myself, would benefit from this sort of view.
darkdexter 2 years ago
I'm with you on all of your arguments. I slipped and voted once in my life, when I was young and omniscient. Now, at 56 I can at least say with pride that saw through the ruse and refused to play the game. Kudos, fellow Canadian.
anutarasamyat 2 years ago
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That sucks that you are losing your hair..... and are ugly and wrong...... loser... and uneducated moron
annielwhite 2 years ago
I think you mean "an uneducated moron" - and thanks for the laugh! :)
stefbot 2 years ago 10
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oh jesus i said "and" instead of "an"... hahaha well i guess you caught me, damn i was owned. so hardcore i think i'll lose sleep
annielwhite 2 years ago
I understand what you're talking about. I have been an anarchist for over five years now and yes, I have climed the mountain. For years, just like you, I tried to convince other people and I truly did waste time. I met a fellow anarchist, told me the error of my ways and I have leared much from him. He really helped me so much and I informed him how much I have grown and I have joined your cause stefbot. To become a anarchist, is to truly become free.
RobertChavis 2 years ago
@stefbot I still don't see you offering any answers to the impending policestate that IS being built around us, because you can believe what you want, but when the inevitable happens and the US dollar crashes, the infrastructure is there for a policestate, and I can GUARANTEE you when this happens , your philosophy isn't going to amount to much, and we will ALL be a lot less free than we are now. When you discuss this, I may start to take your arguments against politics seriously.
Richman6625 11 months ago
@annielwhite Were you that sure that he was trying to intentionally harm you? Even if he was, is it ok to intentionally harm people back?
fergus247 1 year ago
Ron paul isn't freedom. you cannot have freedom if those above you in the workplace are appointed and if there is any hierarchy. To have freedom you must eliminate capitalism
prjctcivilian 2 years ago
you have freedom to make something out of yourselv,, being handed other people's money (as in marxism) is not freedom, that's theft.. Besides capitalism creates wealth, socialism relies on capitalism, or else socialism will create poverty (for everyone)... socialism sucks
Sivels 2 years ago
No, capitalism does not create wealth, just ask most private bankers that control the government.
RobertChavis 2 years ago
I don't you understand what capitralism is... you should know that wall street and the banks and big business are all very cozy with the government.. that's capitalism.. that's big corporatism... nothing is simple eh?
Sivels 2 years ago
im not refering to that...
prjctcivilian 2 years ago
So, what happens when capitalism goes out of control, like wall-mart?
RobertChavis 2 years ago
I dunno, but I don't think appliying marxism will work, it's not all that simple, I'm looking at the bigger picture in general.
Sivels 2 years ago
I'm not sure how you can call subsidization, minimum wage laws (driving our competitors), tax incentives, protectionism, barriers to entry, and other governmental advantages that Wal-Mart has free market capitalism......in fact, free market capitalism calls for none of this! The only thing that anarchists disagree with minarchists about capitalism is on property rights. Most anarchists do not people that the state should acknowledge property rights, while minarchists see it as a state of nature.
mikeshanklin 2 years ago
Wal-Mart does not have a free market capitalism system. It never did. Despite being a supreme predator, Wal-Mart receives nothing but praise from Zionist Jewish-owned newspapers. During most of Sam Walton's reign, Wal-Mart had a worker turnover rate of an incredible 35-45%. It has driven over 100,000 small stores out of business. I truly think that you don't know about the zionist creation of "capitalism".
RobertChavis 2 years ago
If you think zionists created the concept of private property (capitalism), you need to re-open a history book.
Capitalism was being debated before Israel came into existence ;-)
Claytrainor 2 years ago
No, you are indeed wrong about capitalism being debated before Israel came into existence. First of all, the jews created the corrupted capitalism and usuary (which is a sin if you're a christian). Zionists is only a political term that jews hide behind since they created this fiancial depression in the first place. Try reading the Protocols of Zion.
RobertChavis 2 years ago
You should read something besides Jewish Conspiracies.
Capitalism is the concept of private property, are you saying Jews created the concept of private ownership of property? If so, when and how? Don't tell me to read books, i already have a reading list, and i don't have that much time
Israel, the state, has only been around for 60+ years. Karl Marx and Adam Smith were talking about capitalism in the1700's and 1800's
When did the "jews" invent capitalism, and how do you define it?
Claytrainor 2 years ago
Capitalism is NOT the concept of private property. You have been misinformed and yes, I am going to tell you to read a book, how else will you every learn the truth. I know that you're wrong and I am not talking about the state of Israel. The banking industry, usuary, have been created by jews and they were kicked out of 80 countries because of the ponzi scheme known as "free markets". Can't believe everything the "Austrian" school says.
RobertChavis 2 years ago
"apitalism is NOT the concept of private property."
You are not worth my time.
You obviously think everything is "subjective" and make up your own definitions.
Capitalism is private property, socialism is public property. You're conflating capitalism with corporatism.
Claytrainor 2 years ago
You quote "you are not worth my time" if that is the case then why did you choose to respond? If I was truly not worth your time, you would have not respond at all. It's not my fault that you don't read history and who truly created the ponzi scheme known as capitalism.
RobertChavis 2 years ago
"an economic system based on private ownership of capital " - Princeton U dictionary
"Capitalism is an economic system in which wealth, and the means of producing wealth, are PRIVATELY owned." -Wiktionary
"an economic system characterized by private ownership of capital goods" - Merriam Webster Dictionary.
Sorry but your really trying to conflate corporatism with Capitalism.
Corporatism and central banks are a product of democracy and government manipulation, not capitalism.
Claytrainor 2 years ago
Sorry, but you really need to read a book because you are indeed misinformed about capitalism and it does not work. It's a massive scheme based of a private bank that controls most of a country currency. This is why the U.S wants to go to war with Iran and most of the middle east because of usuary (jew created interest). Yes, capitalism is a jew created scheme.
RobertChavis 2 years ago
"read a book, JOOS created capitalism"
Dude... go back to school. Peace
Claytrainor 2 years ago
Sorry, but I went to school and also, I read books that they don't even teach in school. Nice try though with the insults, but seriously, please do more research.
RobertChavis 2 years ago
You've got no argument.
"read a book, do more research... etc."
That's all you really say. That and "THE JOOS DID IT".
Claytrainor 2 years ago
You still have no argument and you defiently lacking in your history. All you say is "you've got no argument".
RobertChavis 2 years ago
that's because you don't have an argument, and don't even understand what capitalism is.
Claytrainor 2 years ago
Oh, I know what capitalism is unlike you, who just respond with insults and nothing to back up your claims.
RobertChavis 2 years ago
Dude... you have no argument.
ireland88 2 years ago
You have no arguemnt and please, I suggest you read on your history.
RobertChavis 2 years ago
@Claytrainor Because they did. Damn, people are just dumb as hell.
RobertChavis 1 year ago
this is not true capitalism, that is big corporatism and wall-street being in bed with the government... this is just the side-effect of bigger government and keynesian economics
Sivels 2 years ago
@RobertChavis How about you look at your daily life and realize how capitalism benefits you, citizen/consumer. You could become a produce but the main point of capitalism is choice. Get that through your numbskull.
pSychOAtDawn 1 year ago 6
@pSychOAtDawn Ah, insults. Capitalism does not benefit the citizen or the consumer. Wal-Mart have already proven this with it's robber baron ways. Yes, sam walton is a robber barron from the 60's. Please do more research before you type. It is in your best interst to do so.
RobertChavis 1 year ago
@RobertChavis Haha. I think it's in your best interest to hear the other side of the story before you completely discourage the notion of a free market. The reason why Wal-Mart is a prick is because the consumers don't give a fuck and Wal-Mart is becoming globalized. Thank NAFTA and GAT for that. Read "A History of Money and Banking in the United States" by Murray N. Rothbard. That will give you an insider besides what you hear from the biased government view on capitalism. Think actively.
pSychOAtDawn 1 year ago
i dont think you understand marxism...
prjctcivilian 2 years ago
Karl Marx was against the free market.. how the hell are you gonna create wealth then? you need wealth to spread it lol
Sivels 2 years ago
the argument is all value is produced by workers
prjctcivilian 2 years ago
well that's a false or highly inincomplete argument
Sivels 2 years ago
I'm a bit of an Anarchist but I do consider myself a Libertarian.
Now you can argue that the end result is big government, but you can also argue that the end result of that is revolution and freedom. You're being a bit pessimistic in that sense. But definetly people need to be free within themselves in their heads before being free physically from the outside forces. Like it or not, you can be free in your head but still be in prison for nothing, there is no happiness there.
Krivaka 2 years ago 3
I can definetly see what you're saying about being free in your life. I consider myself free in the sense of I do what I want without worrying about consequence and without worrying about the status quo. However, there is no way to be completely happy and feel free while my money is being stolen and more police are showing up and making my life difficult. I can care less about being rich, or having a nice car or nice clothes I just want to be able to do what I want to do.
Krivaka 2 years ago
You are a light in this world!!!!!! MUCH LOVE AND PEACE!!!
gypster2004 3 years ago
...and good. There is an argument to be made that politics is just a waste of time. That powerful men and the easily misled masses cannot be overcome with reason and a yearning for justice--maybe "freedom" isn't appealing to enough people. Why talk about so many other things, though? Why attempt to educate folks on the nature of the State if this is the case? Isn't Stefbot doing that which he is advising US against doing? Trying to convince OTHERS to ascribe to a certain value system?
ashane77 3 years ago
There are ways to live free that do not involve politics, you might want to check out my podcasts for more on that... :)
stefbot 3 years ago 11
@stefbot I also fail to see how isolating ourselves from those around us who disagree, is going to lead to any kind of freedom.
Richman6625 11 months ago
@Richman6625 then you probably had a not so abusive childhood
Motherlandpluto 7 months ago
If I grow a marijuana plant on [what is supposedely] my property, to smoke in the privacy of my own home...and govt agents bust me and haul me off to prison...have I "lived free"?
As much as Steph rails against "The Man", and as brilliant as most of his statements are, sometimes what he says really boils down to: "We're all slaves, always have been, maybe always will be--unless the whole of mankind simultaneously adopts the precepts of anarchy. Don't worry, be happy."
Which is all well
ashane77 3 years ago
I was, and am, a Ron Paul supporter. I wasn't under any illusions that he would actually win, and thought his candidacy, in itself, was a minor miracle.
Steph is probably right that there is nothing we can do to affect positive change in DC. Maybe not even in our own States, or even towns.
However, how does one "live free"--in spite of the Govt--when the govt controls so much of our lives? Am I to think myself free when the Govt comes and takes my child away (mandatory schooling)?
ashane77 3 years ago
Non-Hiarchical organization is the only way to free each individual from the tyranny of any power. Anarchism is the solution, fuck government and fuck religion. If you have faith, that is fine, just don't impose laws on others. Each human being should be free! specially the suffering oppressed in the "developing" world that make all that we consume under horrible conditions. Anarchism is freedom, anything else is reactionary: fascism!
brooklynpappi2k 3 years ago
@brooklynpappi2k
"Non-Hiarchical organization is the only way to free each individual from the tyranny of any power. Anarchism is the solution, fuck government and fuck religion"
Hierarchy is part of nature, some're stronger others are not; some are intelligent others are not,etc & have things in different variations but evolution progresses thru differences & hierarchy, that's why nature overthrows every attempt of homogenization of species like communism/socialism for example.
lomocan 1 year ago
@brooklynpappi2k
"just don't impose laws on others. Each human being should be free"
You say that everyone should be free & laws must NOT be IMPOSED on others & then go on to IMPOSE a law onto others ie that there be no hierarchy, why??? Hierarchy is natural order of nature, tool of evolution so if people are left to make their choice & be free, even WITHOUT any force or coercion or violence, there will arise a hierarchy & if you oppose it then you're NOT for freedom to be honest
lomocan 1 year ago
How can one really be free when our money and freedom are limited by laws (which will put you in jail) You try not paying taxes, taking the law into your own hand by shooting the thugs who terrorize society, or hanging the politicians who enslve us all via taxes and corrupt dealings and You will have a jail sentence. "No philosophy" will set you free like true action will. We must live in the physical..not hypothetical world. Ron Paul was that "vehicle". Now, we must come up with a "plan B"
ca919a 3 years ago
The only lasting peace you will ever achieve is through Jesus Christ. Until HE comes AGIN, it is up to US to defend/fight tyrany to the death (gotta die anyway..why not for your children's freedom?) America is doomed.
ca919a 3 years ago
Good video. Very inspiring. I totally know what you're talking about. The message is very existentialist and it views libertarianism as more than a political philosophy.
But I still want to fight the state. Why not be both spiritually free and physically free? Why not have the best of both worlds.
croat88 3 years ago
Tyrany is at hand I am afraid. The USA will fall without a shot ever being fired"..Joe Stallin (killed millions of his own people) America was lost while fat "sheeple" sat on the couch watching sport figures make millions,Oprah talk, and Matt Damon trash America. "Slaves must be disarmed"..Adolf Hitler
ca919a 3 years ago
spectacular posting.
8897670 3 years ago
Steph, I find that its hard for me to let go of the idea that I can achieve more freedom now by voting for freedom loving people (or at least people who will restore our freedoms on our behalf). I see where you are coming from intellectually, but maybe I have to see this fail for myself.
dingerness 3 years ago
This is just a Dr. Phil/Oprah approach to responding to a setback. Wordy, yet theraputic. And true, for the most part.
The victims are fighters though. They will continue fighting! And they must cast a vote!
Ron Paul supporters will continue fighting for liberty and justice for all by throwing their support toward another similar candidate, like Nader, for example. Go Nader! Be free AND contribute to our nation's future. Now that's a great idea!
dudeedud7 3 years ago
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Boring Cunt Hole, I went back to thought asfter 2 minutes!
slowloris 3 years ago
I seek to liberate my countrymen from their own apathy, I am patient, I am resolute.
There never is a path to peace, peace is the path.
ParapaDrifter 3 years ago
I am going nowhere, this is a sustained effort. Failure will always happen before you succeed. I have never doubted the message.
Ron Paul poured his heart and soul into this philosophy for 35 years, his campaign is not a culmination of this movement. I can do the same.
ParapaDrifter 3 years ago
My campaign for the office of President of the USA in 2008 is a tremendous learning experience. Every Presidential candidate should experience what I have these past 12 months.
My reason for running had to do with the fact that I did not find a candidate who impressed me that they seriously intended deliver any of their promises.
My campaign website is WorldWideWeb(dot)PortablePublishing(dot)com
Look forward to working with you to repair our government.
Kingery4President 3 years ago
Gobbledygook. He seems to be advocating the very nihilism he spoke against in the beginning of the video. Freedom and personal growth are not at all the same thing.
lonanmu 3 years ago
Your mountains are IMAGINARY, mine are REAL (If I have to spell it out for you, p-o-t).
So this mountain of philosophy is merely an exercise in practicing liberty. Meanwhile, I still have no job. Nice try at consolation, you are more articulate than most taking this position. I'm just now coming to terms with this, thanks for kind of giving a shit and being somewhat nice to us.
Most others at this time weren't, and I have avoided much discourse since because of it.
Darganot 3 years ago
the price of living truly free even though you don't lie, cheat,steal, rob, rape, pillage, burn or murder is going to prison from time to time and hope fully you won't live under the type of harsh governments we have to live under here in the u.s.a. which likes to send you to prison just so they can make you a ward of the state for life and a profit off of you with their private prison stocks which keep steadily rising due to private prison lobbied harsher mandatory sentences.
fireye2012 3 years ago
We were not founded as a DEMOCRACY we were found as a REPUBLIC. Democracy is mob rule that eventually leads to socialism which leads to communism. We have to go the other way instead of the way we are going. If everybody just ignored their governments they would have to go away.
fireye2012 3 years ago
So how can you be a "free spirit" if you remove yourself from politics and remove yourself from having "a say" in of all these important decsions of our everyday lives? If you have another podcast for me to watch on behalf of this argument, please send me the link.
Jville445 3 years ago
Furthermore, politics is for weak minded simpletons. The act of voting is the act of an incompetant; you can't make decisions for youself, so, you elect someone to make one for you. Free people do, they don't ask permission.
PvtSchlock 3 years ago
Yes I see your point... but, good luck removing yourself from politics and believing that you can use I don't know... osmosis to provide (we can again go back to your example on eggs) the kind of eggs on the shelf you want and desire...
Jville445 3 years ago
Mr. Stef, I'm not sure if I agree with the argument you are presenting .. To my understanding, politics affects our lives significantly. From the purity of the foods you ingest to the production of the goods that you purchase - are the result of political decisions, i.e. conceptions of the good life. So it appears politics greatly influence the choices of your life too.
Jville445 3 years ago
Which politicians produce food? When has inspector #42 bust into your home,"DON'T eat that egg! It's BAD!" Voting is the act of a political incompetant. If you cannot make decisions for yourself, you need someone to make them for you. Like your pimp government. The sooner you realize you are someones trick, the better off you will be. Rawls was a chump, his "good life" garbage is simply that, a heap of stinking refuse.
PvtSchlock 3 years ago
Hmmm I don't think you completely understand... Let's build up upon your example... Even though inspector #42 doesn't bust into your home... when you actually go to the grocery store, what kinds of eggs are on the shelves? Who decides whether or not chemicals are sprayed onto your food? Etc.
Jville445 3 years ago
Keep biulding, point is government cant, an' don't protect you. There is no duty to protect. Thats why we don't go to the cop shop for a new car when they fail to catch a thief. But you are right, I don't know my head from my mama's hole, HUH? Fly that out you left side and see what flaps.
PvtSchlock 3 years ago
Freedom as a state of mind, but not in fact--in my tax paying body?
VictorPross 3 years ago
I don't think anarchism would work.
I like you though.
Go Ron Paul!
LibertarianOnline 3 years ago
Very good philosophy. Lets talk to the soldiers in Iraq. Get them to be free as a philosophical freedom, and yet they are ordered to kill.
Can they have a freedom there?
LeeKwangEng 3 years ago
If you gotta vote for a sure winner, then why waste your time voting?
Democracy means you vote for someone who represent your views.
Ron Paul represent the supporter's view, they vote him also honoring democracy.
So those who are asking why Ron Paul's having enthusiastic grass root supporters, check him out, he may be saying what your views more than you think. Listen before you criticize.
LeeKwangEng 3 years ago
How do you show people you are free when in fact you are a slave?
tesla921 3 years ago
worth quoting about the founding of THE REPUBLIC OF THE UNITED STATES:
min 9:30 -
"An amazing designed system...the U.S. experiment was specifically designed to create the smallest
possible government and to sustain control over the government...
the goal is-TO CURE the POWER OF
THE GOVERNMENT, that WAS the goal, that WAS what it
was designed to do..."
ikekll 4 years ago
Some truthful comments. The MSM is clearly part of the current move to corporate fascism, and therefore the media blackout. I think initially Paul wanted to educate people, and later - with enthusiasm - the goal is to win. He has a plan B, and not let the movement go down into irrelevance like the Reform Party etc if he were to run as an independent unsuccessfully. There is still a chance for a brokered convention.
vryheid88 4 years ago
hey man, what u've said makes alot of sense and kudos to u... i wanted ron paul to win so its been pretty depressing but... things could be worse
aliensexfiend 4 years ago
But steph - how can we be living the example of freedom if we pay taxes?
Like you said - running around begging for your freedom won't work, and by comparison running around telling people that you pay taxes won't work either.
RLore18 4 years ago
Here's how we do it:
1. "the state" produces nothing, thus creates nothing. It operates solely under destruction and theft.
2. The reason for joining government is to get free stuff without earning it ("Government is the attempt of everyone to live off of everyone else").
This should immediately tell you that the laziest people on the Earth ("the state") will not survive if they aren't given stuff for free. So stop it.
RLore18 4 years ago
Stop giving your labor to evil men. Forget the consequences; consequences are things that you never have control over anyway. But what you DO have control over is the ability to choose whether or not your labor gets paid to EVIL MEN who would implement those consequences onto you.
Thus, while they decide whether you live or die...
...you decide whether they live or die.
RLore18 4 years ago
Dude, this is all very nice, but its completely impractical in the world we live in.
Supporting someone like Ron Paul (or any anti-war candidate), for me, is about freeing people around the world from the hegemony of the USA. This effects me on a compassionate level, and on a survival level. Stirring up so much hatred in the world will end in more 9/11's.
Where's liberty and freedom then?
johnnycon 4 years ago
Politics and education have been tried for hundreds of years, and have totally failed. Why do you think that has occurred?
stefbot 4 years ago
You're probably right, but the simple fact is that there is a major problem in the world, stemming from US foreign policy.
Its all well and good striving for self-fulfillment, and not really giving a shit about the government, but spare a thought for the Iraqi who town has been desecrated, or the Palestinian who is being oppressed by the IDF, propped up by the American government.
johnnycon 4 years ago
America is stirring up an unprecedented amount of hatred in the world, putting everyone at risk. Change can only come from the govt itself, or the realization by the people that their govt is totally corrupt. Neither one will work because most politicians are in the pockets of lobby groups, and all of the population is swathed in propaganda.
So while trying to convince people of the problem is often done in vain, retreating into a quiet little existence is not the compassionate thing to do.
johnnycon 4 years ago
Well, America doesn't exist. So no change can come from non-existence. Thus instead of trying to bolster a thing that does not exist (America), looking towards trying to trust the individuals who call themselves government is, of course, not a solution because the problems are coming from the individuals themselves. "Saving government" cannot save that which is non-existent. It can only save those who claim to be "government" - the people you don't want to save. Plus, why rely on coercion?
RLore18 4 years ago
Well if democracy is tyrrany by majority libertarians need to form a majority. Voting (even if you just write yourself in) lets us see how we are doing.
NeonKnight88 4 years ago
Another thing I forgot to point out in my vid response is that, doesn't your own logic defeat your point? If small government leads to big government tyrany, what will no government lead to? Won't it eventually lead to an even BIGGER government than small government ever would?
lufo530 4 years ago
No. Small cancer leads to big cancer. 'No cancer' does not lead to 'total cancer.'
stefbot 4 years ago
The sad thing is intellectuals (like you) are the first to get rounded up during tyranny. Totally agree with the "no fear" idea, but educating others and using group actions are necessary to real change. Good luck with your path though!
GordonWalton 4 years ago
Of course - but politics hasn't worked for the past few hundred years. Philosophy will save us, ballots will doom us.
stefbot 4 years ago
You mean it hasn't worked since the founding of the USA? How about India leaving the commonwealth? Ending segregation? Stopping the Vietnam war? These are the least violent examples I can come up with on short notice.
I do like your videos btw, just don't completely agree.
GordonWalton 4 years ago
Hundreds of thousands of Indians were killed in partition, which led straight to British-inspired socialism under Nehru. Using the state to try to end racism effectively stopped the economic progress of blacks etc etc. Try to go beyond the myths to the facts themselves.
stefbot 4 years ago
What i heard, Run for office yourself.
98kikic 4 years ago
Steph - total freedom includes freedom from income tax. "living a free life" would include not being forced to pay for more chains on your legs with the labor that comes from your current chains. And so long as they are receiving free labor they will exist and push on, just as you previously stated when addressing "the smallest government experiment" in another video. Plus, it is simply impossible to see freedom ahead if you are paying for further enslavement through forced taxation.
RLore18 4 years ago
Well you should strain every muscle then to eliminate the income tax, and see if that makes you feel free... If you succeed, you have definitely proved your argument, and I will be the first to apologize.
stefbot 4 years ago
thank you for that perspective...
crominator 4 years ago
What I realized about gaining freedom through political means is that were there enough people who would vote for Ron Paul to get him elected, there would be enough people to disobey all tax laws of the state and bring it down. No elections required, no pretending allegiance to the fake contract of the Constitution
InstantGradual 4 years ago
Besides just not paying taxes, there would be enough police to boycott enforcing the tax laws and enough people to quit doing business with any enforcers who continue trying to enforce tax laws. This would leave all those people who believe this government does good with taxes to have the option of continuing to subscribe to the current government
InstantGradual 4 years ago
Oops, replace "Ron Paul" in that with "a market anarchist", since Ron Paul voters aren't up to the market anarchy challenge
InstantGradual 4 years ago
hyponotic
DCUPtoejuice 4 years ago
i know how to spell hypnotic LOL
DCUPtoejuice 4 years ago
haha, thanks :)
stefbot 4 years ago
great post. verbose, but good.
DCUPtoejuice 4 years ago
where did you buy that headset? i want one of those instead of these giant things i have.
DCUPtoejuice 4 years ago
It's a logitech, from the source...
stefbot 4 years ago
thanks
DCUPtoejuice 4 years ago
The practices of the United States federal government will eventually lead to a revolution against itself. More and more people will see that too much power in the government has created our problems.
I only hope that the lovers of liberty can change the direction before the government causes more harsh and violent times...
Either way, there will be liberty again.
jsandlin71 4 years ago
Thats all fine but i dont like giving my money to ppl that are working for me that do a terrible job.Dont want my tax dollars to be spent on killing and waste,i want them all to be fired and get there azz in the unemployment line...then i would truly feel better if they all just got fired...donald trump vp he can fire them 1by 1 and have a series out of it..
xsleef 4 years ago
we need to fire all the old bags in congress and start over...they suck
xsleef 4 years ago
While I think there is some merit to what you're saying, I think you miss the point of Ron Paul supporters. See I think the majority of us are not fighting for our own personal freedom, but the freedom of our children and others now and in the future. Would your advice apply to jews in Nazi Germany? Would you give this advice to a father who has a son in the military serving in Iraq? Would they be happy if they themselves achieved this "personal freedom" you speak of, of course not.
mrbengal 4 years ago
We support Ron Paul because he understands this and although you cannot control the state, you cannot ignore it and hope it gets better by you showing people how personaly free you are. We also know that if Ron Paul doesn't get elected it is not the end, we have awoken many people and the public debate has changed and ideas that weren't prominent out in discussion is now being talked about.
mrbengal 4 years ago