Jeff -"I'm in kinda odd mood" no shit man, noticed that after the 1st 5 seconds, well I hope he feels better next time I love when Jeff attacks... ummm sounds like a good movie.
@gurudeclan Its there show and they are addressing the points of the calms that are being made at that momet in time, if you let someone make a clam and move on, that calm might be seen a factual basis of that conversation to the person making the calm. Biggist example of this is look at Ray Comfort he preloads questions and statments all the time
Rather than listening to all this meaningless irritating gibberish from callers, why can't this show just consist of lectures by the hosts? I want to know what THEY are thinking about, not what the illiterate nincompoops of America are thinking. Thanks.
Does anyone has website which present the script of the show? or just summarization for each shows? I am not a native english speaker and have difficulty to understand some sentence. But I am very interest about this show. Thank you.
I have no problem with Christmas (save for mass and the navity scene) but I abhor when people say, "our thoughts and prayers..." after some negative event. I'd be happy if people didn't say it to me and I've been known to say or write, "I'm an atheist. We don't pray."
"Thank god," or "God only knows," were part of my regular vocab. Throw-away phrases inserted as requred. It's takes some doing to eliminate them when you're an atheist because it sounds hypocritical, but can't be always be taken as literal. Still searching for replacements.
The first caller really homes in on a growing problem today: the shift from a theist to an atheist is not a day/night process-- We run a center for troubled young adults (addition to adolescent and even middle-school, and elderly people).You would be surprised at the number of half-way atheists who are literally up in arms and confused.It's quite sad, and I tell them to stay away from YouTube-- we've already had a couple of teen kill themselves because of the vitriol on both sides of the coin.
I feel so embarrassed because of the first caller, I find easier to talk in english with brazilians (like me), but i barely could understand anything this guy said. What a douche.
Sometimes I think that maybe we just think the world is so amazing because that's all we know? I'm not implying it isn't amazing, but I think it's kind of silly to just limit yourself to one idea and put a haul to human interest and creativity. There are a lot of religions and the true followers believe in it as if it's right in front of them, so it comes off as bizarre that Christianity is the "right" religion.
LOL. When the smoking ban got enforced in the netherlands, somebody founded a "smoking church" to get around the ban on religious grounds... ( We smoke to honor our god )
@whitefire1997 Wouldn't it be awesome if there was one show where everyone, including the callers, was stoned beyond the capacity for rational thought?
If Marijuana is ever legalized that is the first suggestion I'm sending in.
i cant believe that out of all the trillions and trillions of planets, i had to born in the one planet where people worship an invsible man in the sky. wtf man?
In the entire history of life on earth, theism has been a tiny fraction of a fraction of a percent of it. I bet it's just a short stage that most or all intelligent species in the universe go through until they discover and collectively adhere to a method that ensures true understanding of reality and progress within it, in our case, the scientific method. We just happen to be, on this particular planet, a generation currently in said short stage.
@GibLit1988 i may be misunderstanding your statement, but wouldnt that theory require a lie for that to be possible? i understand that we question why we are here, but to believe for no good reason that there is an invisible man , i dont know why that would be an important part of our mission in discoving how we got here?
In every human society in history no matter how isolated, there has been the conceptualization of a god or gods, which because of its unverifiability, and the lack of any methods of verifiability anyway, these concepts end up being accepted as fact because of how grandiose and self-evident they seem. I'm just guessing that the need to anthropomorphize the universe is probably a characteristic of all self-aware intelligent species that arises within it.
@yourallbrainwashed I doubt that. I feel sure religion/gods are a condition of immature sentience. Like invisible friends children have. We are, as a species, going through puberty, transforming from children to adolescents. I think every civilization will have to go through this at some point. I think some species will have an easier go than others, depending on how their brain structures and thought patterns and emotions evolved. Some won't make it. Growing pains are a bitch in our case.
@TomVodkaCollins I lean toward your viewpoint but it's a little broad as far as understanding the positive role that religion played in history. There really wasn't any way for a barbarian to lay down the law in a way that would not fall apart with anarchy and through that process religions were spawned: people feared, and still fear today, of punishment by their deity. I think America is the best nation on earth... the world is laughing from jealousy. I know I am right.
Re the 1st guy: Historically Freemasonry is in conflict with Catholicism. It is forbidden for Catholics to be Freemasons, because Masons have a doctrine that resembles Deism and doesn't specifically advocate Christianity. However, most Protestant groups have no qualms with the Masons. It's all nit picking about doctrines and history. But I really don't even understand what the hell the caller was asking about!
This show acts the same about the lies of 911, the NWO & what really happened as J. Edgar Hoover acted about the mafia - saying it didn't EXIST. AE has OFTEN chided knowledgeable legitimate independent 911 investigators, attempting to make them appear as "nuts" or fools. Hoover was being blackmailed with pics of him performing oral sex on his lover. I can't say what makes AE smirk & deny facts concerning the NWO. Spreading atheism is PART of the NWO agenda. I admit it & I AM AN ATHEIST!
@t4705mb6 arent the supposed nwo involved with the president and all the higher ups in america? i dont know much about it tbh but thats the impression i was under and the authority in america is very religious is it not?
@TehFoo1 This media is NOT a cell phone or a handheld technology designed for simple minded kids. This is the internet (alternative media). I am simply asking you to make yourself clear without the attempt to be "cool" (stupid). Nobody with brains really cares about that bullshit anyway.) LOL. :)
@t4705mb6 Okay i will try again if it means that much to you. Aren't the supposed New World Order involved with the president and all the higher ups in america? i dont know much about it to be honest but thats the impression i was under and the authority in america is very religious is it not?
I hope you can answer the question now instead of resorting to childish behaviour.
@ajsatchwell Well, it's certainly NOT a mystery as to why YOU come across as "nuts". There are literally hundreds of MILLIONS of you. Shake a tree and a dozen dumb asses fall out. It's just the way you people are now.
Hey gang,I hope everyone's health is good.I made the SPA T-shirt for you guys.I have a t-shirt idea for the reason rally that will be the start of the new national party of secular humanists.I need assistance and help from Don B. and some computer geeks.I will do my atheist trip to mecca(Austin) if I have to.I can do it.I don't want to sell t-shirts,it's just a start.Have Don B. call me or contact me via e-mail.I have such radical ideas(that are so strong) that I would lose my job,but that's ok.
Poe's Law is an axiom suggesting that it's difficult to distinguish between parodies of religious fundamentalism and its genuine proponents, since they both seem equally insane. For example, some conservatives consider noted homophobe Fred Phelps to be so over-the-top that they argue he's a "deep cover liberal" trying to discredit more mainstream homophobes.
England is so boring that they have to call our radio and television programs. If it is a law that all English people have to wear a top hat and carry a pocket watch, then maybe they should focus on their own government instead of worrying about our health care system all day. Also, they can't even beat America in soccer, or "football," which is the only sport that they play.
I love it when Christians quote the Bible to argue their points. Why would I take that reference seriously? Let's just hope that everyone wakes up in the near future but with billions with blinders on, it's not looking possible.
That last caller brought to my mind something I saw on the news after the 2004 sunami.One American or British tourist who survived proclaimed that god was watching out for him and felt as though his life was spared for a future purpose.How gigantic would a person's ego have to be to believe that they are more protected and selected for a greater purpose over 100,000 others?The more religious,the less heart.
How did you come to that certainty? I'm well aware of the philosophy behind why I can say god doesn't exist, but I'd be interested to hear how you can say "most certainly" instead of "probably."
@xinlo Hello. While I am certainly aware that one cannot "prove a negative" (actually, it's "prove the absence of existence" really), at some point, conditionally accepting as fact that something doesn't exist makes sense until such time that evidence is provided to the contrary. Flying, winged elephants. I do not accept that they exist. I suppose one can say that since I haven't seen every elephant, I am actually agnostic to their existence. But I am not. I "know" they don't exist...
@xinlo (pt 2) I know it because of my understanding of biology and physics. In some ways, the same can be said for deities. In the past, our understanding of our world allowed for such things to "make sense". Now that we see how vast our universe is, "omnipresence" is an absurd notion (what mechanism is used to carry the signals? How does it violate c? If it doesn't, god's awareness would have time dilation messing with it all the time...
@xinlo (pt 3) the inventor's of our gods didn't place their home (heaven) "outside of space and time" - they placed it "in the sky". (see "Tower of Babel" and "Mt Olympus"). Now that we understand what the sky is, and what is beyond it, we come up with this "outside of space and time" nonsense for our gods' home.
But there is no evidence whatsoever that such a "place" exists (or _can_ exist) - it was invented as a home for entities that also have no evidence to support them.
Well yeah, but here's where the supernatural comes into place. God can be disproved easily because his definition cannot exist, with omni's. That is the only way you could say definitively something doesn't exist. Lack of evidence simply means lack of evidence. While it's impractical to believe it without evidence, you don't reach certainty. What about an afterlife (notice, not necessarily "heaven") tells you it can't exist?
@xinlo It's not that an afterlife cannot exist, it's just that there is absolutely no reason for it to, and there is no evidence that it does. "Where do we go when we die" is as nonsensical as "what tree were we before we were born".
All evidence points to the fact that consciousness resides in the brain, and that when the brain stops functioning, consciousness goes away.
In science, theories must be parsimonious, and explanatory. What does the afterlife explain? Why would it develop?
You seem to be banging against the fundamental limitations of empiricism here, as well as taking a very specific position in the philosophy of science. We do not reach certainty with evidence. We get all but certainty, but we don't get certainty.
I'm looking for truth, not for some sort of instrumental value in knowing about the afterlife. Lack of parsimony or understanding is irrelevant. You claimed certainty that the afterlife doesn't exist. Proof, not evidence.
@xinlo Sorry, I was being flippant when I said "There most certainly is no afterlife." I know proof isn't scientific, and I know certainty doesn't exist.
But there is no reason accept as true something that is not support by evidence. To do so is merely an exercise is wishful thinking. You looking for truth of an afterlife is no more defensible then someone looking for the truth of mermaids. Either of you might eventually succeed.
@xinlo Also, today, "supernatural" seems to be equal to "a category that contains things I want to exist, but cannot support with evidence".
What "lives on" after we die? Is it material (made of matter)? Or immaterial (made of something that exists solely to explain and support supernatural entities)?
And again, I keep getting back to "why"? What purpose would an afterlife serve? By adding it, one must postulate an entire landscape of unsupported ideas.
There's been some misunderstanding here. What I attempted to convey was that the existence of an afterlife (the continuation of experience after the death of an organism) is untestable and unknowable. I'm not sure what made you think that I was talking about gods and deities.
@Rustpuke Of, course, you are right. However, I would like to extend my reasoning to this topic, as well. There is no evidence that "consciousness" exists outside the brain (and plenty of evidence that it doesn't). There is also evidence that the brain is a biological organ that requires energy to function, just like all the others.
So while we cannot "prove" (hate that word) that people don't turn into ghosts and fly to heaven upon death, there really is no reason to accept we do.
We don't really have a clue how consciousness works as of this time so there's lots of bizarre phenomena that are still on the table. For instance, if you search "the extended mind" in Youtube you can see a talk by Rupert Sheldrake that shows some evidence that consciousness might not necessarily be confined to our crania.
@Rustpuke Also, above you said it was "daft to proclaim to have absolute knowledge". I agree. We don't do that in science, ever. Evidence supports conclusions and explanations provisionally. At some point, overwhelming evidence for something means we can comfortably accept it as true (i.e., Relativity). Similarly, complete lack of evidence for something means we can comfortably dismiss it as not true (i.e., souls, heaven).
Of course,either of these can be changed by further evidence.
I agree with you here entirely, but I wish people would really treat all scientific knowledge as tentative, and this pertains to phenomena we choose to accept AND dismiss.
@Rustpuke Yes sir, scientific knowledge is tentative. Unless it's proven conclusively by means of mathematics. However, whenever science declares a scientific theory, such as the theory of gravity or evolution, historically there is never again any compelling evidence against the theory. So it may as well be counted on as "knowledge".
@steviej321 The theory is taken as true until evidence dismisses it. Also it is never just one peice of evidence that leads to a theory. Just like once evolution was thought to be a theory however as additional scientific facts has been made it is now a real life actuality that can be proven and reproduced. So yes you are right one parts but missing the bigger picture.
- "Just like once evolution was thought to be a theory..."
A scientific "theory" is not a guess, but an explanation. A scientific "fact" is an observation. The (scientific) theory of evolution explains the (observed) fact that evolution happens, so in scientific terms, evolution is both a theory and a fact.
The terminology is confusing because scientific terms like "theory" and "fact" (and "law") have specific meanings that are different from their meanings in everyday speech.
@TheAtheistExperience Theory - a proposed explanation whose status is still conjectural and subject to experimentation, in contrast to well-established propositions that are regarded as reporting matters of actual fact. Fact - a truth known by actual experience or observation; Guess - to estimate or conjecture about correctly.
Basically what I am saying is there is a process where a guess/hypothesis becomes a theory and then a theory becomes a fact.
@steviej321 Well said, but also a tad misleading. Spontaneous generation was a theory and it was pretty much shot to hell and back, just like that. That's actually why I love science: it's heartlessly truthful-- science doesn't lie because of peer review. But relying on sciense is not for everyone-- in fact, science is now taking the role keeping the human race alive... in times past: religion was king. Deny that and you are uneducated about it.
« Science thinks its right until its proven wrong by its own means. Then science makes up excuses to justify its error and carries on a charade »
Ehr, no. What actually happens is that we tentatively accept formulated explanations if they are more or less consistent with observational data, and then, if and when new data seems to contradict our explanation, we either reject the explanation in favor of a new and more accurate model, or we adjust the explanation to match the new data.
There has been very little crazy on the show last few weeks, my guess is that the fundies have the word out Not to call now because they always end up looking like complete retards.
that s a great program. eventhough there is a god or not it helps people to practice reason and not just believe in any thing someone tell u to believe.
For anyone who's interested, the caller is referring to "Evid3nc3". Excellent channel and playlists. Another thing that same caller brings up is how intelligent people can believe this stuff. A channel called "anubis2814" has over 40 videos covering this topic. Great stuff! Highly recommended!
That is not true, Ron Paul never even talks about his religion and never brings it up in his arguments for his political ideology. He's gone out of his way to point out that religion is irrelevant.
@WeebleWarbler You're confused. Being smug, condescending and patronising is a prerequisite for being a true Christian but you knew that already...also, being a poor speller.
I think they may want to come up with a new intro song for the new year. I am biased because I would gladly donate a song, but I am sure there are thousands of extremely talented musicians of all sorts who would be interested in creating a song for this program.
Nothing against the current song, just a little bit public TV-ish and kind of overly dramatic. Also, it kind of reminds me of Creed. Is that ironic?
@BrutalacePSN A lot of believers confuse atheism with something like satanism. Obviously atheists think satanism is just as stupid as any other religion. It is a position based on ignorance and ignorance is never lacking among the ranks of the religious.
LaVeyan Satanism (or what most people would simply call as satanism) does not involve the worship of any being other than the self nor does it involve any kind of supernatural element. 'Satan' was chosen purely as a symbol of worldly pleasures and as a rejection of the piousness, guilt and abstinence associated with the Judeo-Christian religions. It basically "enjoy yourself as much as you can without harming others". Satanists are, to all extents and purposes, Atheist.
@mushimushi93 Perhaps you are right, I will admit to some ignorance when it comes to satanism. If it is as you say then a beter name would be Hedenism. Satanism evokes an image of the biblical satan, devil, lucifer or whatever, just another mythological being as far as I'm concerned. There is the perception of the bell, book and candle thing with pentagrams, incantations, ceremonies etc. Many unkowingly associate these things with atheism. One often hears "Why do you hate god?" Laughable but sad
@55chh I totally agree with what you said and was in know way trying to suggest you were ignorant. I think 'Satanism' is a terrible choice of name for their 'belief' system. I agree Hedonism is far more suitable choice. I think the most common misconception of Satanism is actually 'Devil Worship' as seen in many a late night 70's Hammer Horror movie and something that 'Satanists' and Atheists alike find as ridiculous as belief in a Christian god.
@HeaLea77 Holy fuck, do you _REALLY_ believe that scientists believe that male humans were just running around confused about what to fuck until female humans evolved? ARRGH!!!! Oooooohhh....the stupid...it hurts my brain!! Seriously, I feel I'm having to short-circuit several neurons just to think about it!
@HeaLea77 Holy shit, I don't think I've ever read anything so stupid in my life. I'm literally losing brain cells reading this.
I've met plenty of nice, intelligent theists. You aren't one of them. You make them look bad, in fact.
My advice to you; learn to write coherently and then take a sex ed class. Just... please. Please, please, please, educate yourself. Your very existence is depressing.
@HeaLea77 I'm sorry but that was a horrendous interpretation of how evolution works. For starters, the HUGE no no you used was using the term "choose". Evolution has nothing to do with "choosing". I think this is why we really need to step up scientific education at an early age.
@HeaLea77 Awww..science is hard and complicated and stuff, isn't it? So much easier to just throw up your hands and say "I can't figure it out, so god must have done it".
Jeff -"I'm in kinda odd mood" no shit man, noticed that after the 1st 5 seconds, well I hope he feels better next time I love when Jeff attacks... ummm sounds like a good movie.
ubernagash 6 days ago
The first caller is the waterboy!
protector440 6 days ago
I'm an atheist but these guys annoy me. They talk over their callers too much.
gurudeclan 1 week ago
@gurudeclan Its there show and they are addressing the points of the calms that are being made at that momet in time, if you let someone make a clam and move on, that calm might be seen a factual basis of that conversation to the person making the calm. Biggist example of this is look at Ray Comfort he preloads questions and statments all the time
ubernagash 6 days ago
@jamespiperca ""Thank god," or "God only knows," were part of my regular vocab... Still searching for replacements." These might sound odd but...
Thank goodness
Who knows?
Oh dear (lol I actually say this a lot now and it pretty fun to use but not for seriousness XD)
Oh my gosh (common)
Otherwise I have no idea what other replacements there could be. :T
Z6D4C4 1 week ago
@Z6D4C4 Oh my universe!
ToutCQJM 4 days ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@Z6D4C4 How about, "Oh, Gravity!"
politicoochie09 1 day ago
@Brenda2OOO There are episodes like that but they aren't separated so you kinda' have to search for them...
Z6D4C4 1 week ago
Rather than listening to all this meaningless irritating gibberish from callers, why can't this show just consist of lectures by the hosts? I want to know what THEY are thinking about, not what the illiterate nincompoops of America are thinking. Thanks.
Brenda2OOO 1 week ago
Jeff Dee is a true Browncoat.
jonasgrant 2 weeks ago
Ching chang Chong eh?!....
DragonsREpic 2 weeks ago
"Eyebrows are really not relevant" ....I love Jeff Dee!
FyodorMDostoyevsky 2 weeks ago
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Great page for atheists... go here and see all the contradictions in the Bible and how many times it is wrong. Dare to read. Amazingbibledotorg
spiegeltn 3 weeks ago
Does anyone has website which present the script of the show? or just summarization for each shows? I am not a native english speaker and have difficulty to understand some sentence. But I am very interest about this show. Thank you.
mrmabb123 1 month ago
ah youtube, where religion comes to get smack around by fish of reason company by the tarder sauce of free thinking.
Darkassassin817 1 month ago
I have no problem with Christmas (save for mass and the navity scene) but I abhor when people say, "our thoughts and prayers..." after some negative event. I'd be happy if people didn't say it to me and I've been known to say or write, "I'm an atheist. We don't pray."
jamespiperca 1 month ago in playlist More videos from TheAtheistExperience
"Thank god," or "God only knows," were part of my regular vocab. Throw-away phrases inserted as requred. It's takes some doing to eliminate them when you're an atheist because it sounds hypocritical, but can't be always be taken as literal. Still searching for replacements.
jamespiperca 1 month ago in playlist More videos from TheAtheistExperience
@jamespiperca
Same here. I just replaced the work God with the word "fuck".
Eg.
Thank FUCK
Holy FUCK
Oh my FUCK
... You get the picture
Deathkavaderva 2 weeks ago
@Deathkavaderva
Which incidentally is LESS offensive to theists as it avoids taking God's name in vain XD
Deathkavaderva 2 weeks ago
All the atheists- Well spoken, intelligent.
All the theists- THE BIBLE.
Nichevo1994 1 month ago in playlist More videos from TheAtheistExperience
Jeff always makes me chuckle lol
Renface82 1 month ago
@killatheists Perhaps you don't quite understand our position.....we don't believe in hell. Logic fail dud.
MrSirwolf2001 1 month ago
The first caller really homes in on a growing problem today: the shift from a theist to an atheist is not a day/night process-- We run a center for troubled young adults (addition to adolescent and even middle-school, and elderly people).You would be surprised at the number of half-way atheists who are literally up in arms and confused.It's quite sad, and I tell them to stay away from YouTube-- we've already had a couple of teen kill themselves because of the vitriol on both sides of the coin.
amberwhite122589 1 month ago
Alexander? Yeah right Cal Chuchesta!
richd506 1 month ago
Meesa wants to be a-free-may-son
Murdulo 1 month ago
I feel so embarrassed because of the first caller, I find easier to talk in english with brazilians (like me), but i barely could understand anything this guy said. What a douche.
andreviana12 1 month ago
Ok, I'm suddenly convinced that this show needs sub titles.
TheAtheistFuture 1 month ago
Sometimes I think that maybe we just think the world is so amazing because that's all we know? I'm not implying it isn't amazing, but I think it's kind of silly to just limit yourself to one idea and put a haul to human interest and creativity. There are a lot of religions and the true followers believe in it as if it's right in front of them, so it comes off as bizarre that Christianity is the "right" religion.
SquirrelAssauIt 1 month ago in playlist More videos from TheAtheistExperience
I love Jeff's shirt!
Krseyffert 1 month ago
Ryan from london was so fucking boring.
flake452 1 month ago
LOL. When the smoking ban got enforced in the netherlands, somebody founded a "smoking church" to get around the ban on religious grounds... ( We smoke to honor our god )
z3r0Projects 1 month ago
Presidents are just there to give people the illusion of choice (g.c.)
z3r0Projects 1 month ago
Ron Paul is nothing like Bush and does not focus on his religion... he focuses on the constitution, what's so crazy about that?
ludogogo 1 month ago
THE WORLD IS GONNA END IN THE YEAR 2000 YOU CAN FEEL IT DUDE!!! YOU CAN FEEL IT!!!
romans52345 1 month ago 13
@romans52345 AAH! IT'S TRUE! THE END IS NEAR!
PowBlock96 1 month ago
i always thought jeff dee looked romulan
Tryambakam 1 month ago
@Tryambakam It looks to me sometimes that he has dip in his mouth.
lamontisabigdummy 1 month ago
One of the worst things about religion is that it wastes brain power that could be spent on addressing real problems.
vinegarthomas 1 month ago
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TyeDye07 1 month ago
Not being funny but I think maybe we (UK) could of had a better representative.
I mean nervous rambling and laughter aside he was ok but he wasn't brilliantly informed.
LeoRikimaru 1 month ago
@LeoRikimaru That doesn't really reflect poorly on your country as a whole, every country has stupid people.
PrivateJoker17 1 month ago
@PrivateJoker17 Thats an intelligent insight, unfortunately many people are not insightful or intelligent.
These are the people who will form their opinion of an entire nation based on one person, they are the majority.
Thank you though.
LeoRikimaru 1 month ago
@LeoRikimaru Sadly, in a lot of cases that is true, but those with intelligence know better.
PrivateJoker17 1 month ago
Jeff seems calmer...
Who put tranquilizers in his drink?
LeoRikimaru 1 month ago
@LeoRikimaru I have him one of my happy pills :)
whitefire1997 1 month ago
@LeoRikimaru *gave
whitefire1997 1 month ago
@whitefire1997 Wouldn't it be awesome if there was one show where everyone, including the callers, was stoned beyond the capacity for rational thought?
If Marijuana is ever legalized that is the first suggestion I'm sending in.
LeoRikimaru 1 month ago
We have elected an athiest president. his name was Abraham Lincoln.
RyanoISU 1 month ago
demonic eyebrows! the christian nightmare! 0_o
Phangaea 1 month ago
Since theology is bullshit, why to look into it anyway.
Nice to see I'm not the only one to come to the same conclusion, only unlike Jeff I'm not an outspoken person.
SwineNahNah 1 month ago
i cant believe that out of all the trillions and trillions of planets, i had to born in the one planet where people worship an invsible man in the sky. wtf man?
yourallbrainwashed 1 month ago 64
@yourallbrainwashed I know
waltdii 1 month ago
@yourallbrainwashed
In the entire history of life on earth, theism has been a tiny fraction of a fraction of a percent of it. I bet it's just a short stage that most or all intelligent species in the universe go through until they discover and collectively adhere to a method that ensures true understanding of reality and progress within it, in our case, the scientific method. We just happen to be, on this particular planet, a generation currently in said short stage.
GibLit1988 1 month ago
@GibLit1988 i may be misunderstanding your statement, but wouldnt that theory require a lie for that to be possible? i understand that we question why we are here, but to believe for no good reason that there is an invisible man , i dont know why that would be an important part of our mission in discoving how we got here?
yourallbrainwashed 1 month ago
@yourallbrainwashed
In every human society in history no matter how isolated, there has been the conceptualization of a god or gods, which because of its unverifiability, and the lack of any methods of verifiability anyway, these concepts end up being accepted as fact because of how grandiose and self-evident they seem. I'm just guessing that the need to anthropomorphize the universe is probably a characteristic of all self-aware intelligent species that arises within it.
GibLit1988 1 month ago
@GibLit1988 oh, well i guess it could be a possibility? very interesting.
yourallbrainwashed 1 month ago
@GibLit1988 *pinch* *poke* You owe me a Coke. X^D
TomVodkaCollins 1 month ago in playlist More videos from TheAtheistExperience
@yourallbrainwashed I doubt that. I feel sure religion/gods are a condition of immature sentience. Like invisible friends children have. We are, as a species, going through puberty, transforming from children to adolescents. I think every civilization will have to go through this at some point. I think some species will have an easier go than others, depending on how their brain structures and thought patterns and emotions evolved. Some won't make it. Growing pains are a bitch in our case.
TomVodkaCollins 1 month ago in playlist More videos from TheAtheistExperience
@TomVodkaCollins I lean toward your viewpoint but it's a little broad as far as understanding the positive role that religion played in history. There really wasn't any way for a barbarian to lay down the law in a way that would not fall apart with anarchy and through that process religions were spawned: people feared, and still fear today, of punishment by their deity. I think America is the best nation on earth... the world is laughing from jealousy. I know I am right.
amberwhite122589 1 month ago
Jeff is getting CUTEEEEE <--- :)
papermermaid 1 month ago
God exists. Bottom line.
STL2ATLcda 1 month ago
@STL2ATLcda you can't just say something and then it's true
NondualityAndScience 1 month ago
@STL2ATLcda At the end opinion and is utter bs. Bottom line.
PimpingRice 1 month ago
@STL2ATLcda Maybe. Which one? What does s/he/it look like? Can you provide more evidence than, say, a statement proving that you wish it were so?
PalulukanMakto 1 month ago
@STL2ATLcda Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Bottom line.
KaHabbful 1 month ago
Re the 1st guy: Historically Freemasonry is in conflict with Catholicism. It is forbidden for Catholics to be Freemasons, because Masons have a doctrine that resembles Deism and doesn't specifically advocate Christianity. However, most Protestant groups have no qualms with the Masons. It's all nit picking about doctrines and history. But I really don't even understand what the hell the caller was asking about!
apostatexp 1 month ago
The first caller may or may not be black. Either way i'm disappointed. Haha. Keep up the great work and the patience guys.
joemak13 1 month ago
This show acts the same about the lies of 911, the NWO & what really happened as J. Edgar Hoover acted about the mafia - saying it didn't EXIST. AE has OFTEN chided knowledgeable legitimate independent 911 investigators, attempting to make them appear as "nuts" or fools. Hoover was being blackmailed with pics of him performing oral sex on his lover. I can't say what makes AE smirk & deny facts concerning the NWO. Spreading atheism is PART of the NWO agenda. I admit it & I AM AN ATHEIST!
t4705mb6 1 month ago
@t4705mb6 arent the supposed nwo involved with the president and all the higher ups in america? i dont know much about it tbh but thats the impression i was under and the authority in america is very religious is it not?
TehFoo1 1 month ago
@TehFoo1 Please, stop texting and write a coherent statement. (No offense.)
t4705mb6 1 month ago
@t4705mb6 ?? i don't understand what your trying to do
TehFoo1 1 month ago
@t4705mb6 oh i see because i put tbh, lol thats a bit pathetic, so i guess you have no answer to my honest question
:D
TehFoo1 1 month ago
@TehFoo1 This media is NOT a cell phone or a handheld technology designed for simple minded kids. This is the internet (alternative media). I am simply asking you to make yourself clear without the attempt to be "cool" (stupid). Nobody with brains really cares about that bullshit anyway.) LOL. :)
t4705mb6 1 month ago
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@t4705mb6 Okay i will try again if it means that much to you. Aren't the supposed New World Order involved with the president and all the higher ups in america? i dont know much about it to be honest but thats the impression i was under and the authority in america is very religious is it not?
I hope you can answer the question now instead of resorting to childish behaviour.
laughing out loud ( see what i did there ;) )
TehFoo1 1 month ago
@t4705mb6 yeah its a mystery as to why you come across as nuts
ajsatchwell 1 month ago
@ajsatchwell Well, it's certainly NOT a mystery as to why YOU come across as "nuts". There are literally hundreds of MILLIONS of you. Shake a tree and a dozen dumb asses fall out. It's just the way you people are now.
Go ahead. Attack me some more, moron.
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LeoRikimaru 1 month ago
Hey gang,I hope everyone's health is good.I made the SPA T-shirt for you guys.I have a t-shirt idea for the reason rally that will be the start of the new national party of secular humanists.I need assistance and help from Don B. and some computer geeks.I will do my atheist trip to mecca(Austin) if I have to.I can do it.I don't want to sell t-shirts,it's just a start.Have Don B. call me or contact me via e-mail.I have such radical ideas(that are so strong) that I would lose my job,but that's ok.
rickuj 1 month ago
Why does AA never talk about Judaism? And by that I don't mean the Old Testament, I mean the actual Rabbinic teachings (oral law) which is so central.
I would like to see them talk about the racism in the Schulchan Aruch and Babylonian Talmud??
OrthodoxDarwinist 1 month ago
@OrthodoxDarwinist And the rampant, institutionalized sexism.
MisterDataJack 1 month ago
@MisterDataJack
Yes and that as well.
They don't seem to want to touch it with a ten foot pole. They must be scared of the ADL, lol.
OrthodoxDarwinist 1 month ago
A conservative Supreme court is what ruled on Roe v Wade
Narajah 1 month ago
your first caller is trolling you so hard
Narajah 1 month ago
Poe's Law is an axiom suggesting that it's difficult to distinguish between parodies of religious fundamentalism and its genuine proponents, since they both seem equally insane. For example, some conservatives consider noted homophobe Fred Phelps to be so over-the-top that they argue he's a "deep cover liberal" trying to discredit more mainstream homophobes.
Narajah 1 month ago
Poe's Law
Narajah 1 month ago
England is so boring that they have to call our radio and television programs. If it is a law that all English people have to wear a top hat and carry a pocket watch, then maybe they should focus on their own government instead of worrying about our health care system all day. Also, they can't even beat America in soccer, or "football," which is the only sport that they play.
PulpPractical 1 month ago
Suh-suh-suh-serenity? Atheist? Marry me?
TophBeiFong2 1 month ago
I love it when Christians quote the Bible to argue their points. Why would I take that reference seriously? Let's just hope that everyone wakes up in the near future but with billions with blinders on, it's not looking possible.
daddyfatsax611 1 month ago
Go Jeff!
DasHinchen 1 month ago
That last caller brought to my mind something I saw on the news after the 2004 sunami.One American or British tourist who survived proclaimed that god was watching out for him and felt as though his life was spared for a future purpose.How gigantic would a person's ego have to be to believe that they are more protected and selected for a greater purpose over 100,000 others?The more religious,the less heart.
Kee2Oz 1 month ago
@HeaLea77 Damn i feel so sad for you.
kjbass1986 1 month ago
MARK MY WORDS - O'bama will win. (Not because I'll vote for him, but because It has been predetermined)
skydragon4ever 1 month ago
10 people still have an imaginary friend.
whitefire1997 1 month ago
2012? looks like this was filmed in 1995
IghorGonzalez001 1 month ago
There's probably no afterlife. Now stop worrying and go enjoy your life. Cheerio.
WeebleWarbler 1 month ago
@WeebleWarbler There most certainly is no afterlife. The entire notion is daft. Now stop worrying and enjoy your Cheerios.
MisterDataJack 1 month ago
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@MisterDataJack
How did you come to that certainty? I'm well aware of the philosophy behind why I can say god doesn't exist, but I'd be interested to hear how you can say "most certainly" instead of "probably."
xinlo 1 month ago
@xinlo Hello. While I am certainly aware that one cannot "prove a negative" (actually, it's "prove the absence of existence" really), at some point, conditionally accepting as fact that something doesn't exist makes sense until such time that evidence is provided to the contrary. Flying, winged elephants. I do not accept that they exist. I suppose one can say that since I haven't seen every elephant, I am actually agnostic to their existence. But I am not. I "know" they don't exist...
MisterDataJack 1 month ago
@xinlo (pt 2) I know it because of my understanding of biology and physics. In some ways, the same can be said for deities. In the past, our understanding of our world allowed for such things to "make sense". Now that we see how vast our universe is, "omnipresence" is an absurd notion (what mechanism is used to carry the signals? How does it violate c? If it doesn't, god's awareness would have time dilation messing with it all the time...
Saying "it's magic": is not an explanation.
MisterDataJack 1 month ago
@xinlo (pt 3) the inventor's of our gods didn't place their home (heaven) "outside of space and time" - they placed it "in the sky". (see "Tower of Babel" and "Mt Olympus"). Now that we understand what the sky is, and what is beyond it, we come up with this "outside of space and time" nonsense for our gods' home.
But there is no evidence whatsoever that such a "place" exists (or _can_ exist) - it was invented as a home for entities that also have no evidence to support them.
MisterDataJack 1 month ago
@MisterDataJack
Well yeah, but here's where the supernatural comes into place. God can be disproved easily because his definition cannot exist, with omni's. That is the only way you could say definitively something doesn't exist. Lack of evidence simply means lack of evidence. While it's impractical to believe it without evidence, you don't reach certainty. What about an afterlife (notice, not necessarily "heaven") tells you it can't exist?
xinlo 1 month ago
@xinlo It's not that an afterlife cannot exist, it's just that there is absolutely no reason for it to, and there is no evidence that it does. "Where do we go when we die" is as nonsensical as "what tree were we before we were born".
All evidence points to the fact that consciousness resides in the brain, and that when the brain stops functioning, consciousness goes away.
In science, theories must be parsimonious, and explanatory. What does the afterlife explain? Why would it develop?
MisterDataJack 1 month ago
@MisterDataJack
You seem to be banging against the fundamental limitations of empiricism here, as well as taking a very specific position in the philosophy of science. We do not reach certainty with evidence. We get all but certainty, but we don't get certainty.
I'm looking for truth, not for some sort of instrumental value in knowing about the afterlife. Lack of parsimony or understanding is irrelevant. You claimed certainty that the afterlife doesn't exist. Proof, not evidence.
xinlo 1 month ago
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@xinlo Sorry, I was being flippant when I said "There most certainly is no afterlife." I know proof isn't scientific, and I know certainty doesn't exist.
But there is no reason accept as true something that is not support by evidence. To do so is merely an exercise is wishful thinking. You looking for truth of an afterlife is no more defensible then someone looking for the truth of mermaids. Either of you might eventually succeed.
MisterDataJack 1 month ago
@xinlo Also, today, "supernatural" seems to be equal to "a category that contains things I want to exist, but cannot support with evidence".
What "lives on" after we die? Is it material (made of matter)? Or immaterial (made of something that exists solely to explain and support supernatural entities)?
And again, I keep getting back to "why"? What purpose would an afterlife serve? By adding it, one must postulate an entire landscape of unsupported ideas.
MisterDataJack 1 month ago
@MisterDataJack
What's daft is proclaiming to have absolute knowledge of things that are inherently unknowable and untestable.
Rustpuke 1 month ago
@Rustpuke No. Assigning an imaginary attribute (unknowable/untestable) to an imaginary entity is daft
"You can't ever be sure he doesn't exist!" "Why?" "Because one of his powers is he's the super best hider, ever!"
I have as much knowledge as I require to know there are no gods. The same that is required to know there are no fairies, elves, unicorns, etc.
No evidence for existence is provisionally acceptable as support against existence.
MisterDataJack 1 month ago
@MisterDataJack
There's been some misunderstanding here. What I attempted to convey was that the existence of an afterlife (the continuation of experience after the death of an organism) is untestable and unknowable. I'm not sure what made you think that I was talking about gods and deities.
Rustpuke 1 month ago
@Rustpuke Of, course, you are right. However, I would like to extend my reasoning to this topic, as well. There is no evidence that "consciousness" exists outside the brain (and plenty of evidence that it doesn't). There is also evidence that the brain is a biological organ that requires energy to function, just like all the others.
So while we cannot "prove" (hate that word) that people don't turn into ghosts and fly to heaven upon death, there really is no reason to accept we do.
MisterDataJack 1 month ago
@MisterDataJack
We don't really have a clue how consciousness works as of this time so there's lots of bizarre phenomena that are still on the table. For instance, if you search "the extended mind" in Youtube you can see a talk by Rupert Sheldrake that shows some evidence that consciousness might not necessarily be confined to our crania.
Rustpuke 1 month ago
@Rustpuke Also, above you said it was "daft to proclaim to have absolute knowledge". I agree. We don't do that in science, ever. Evidence supports conclusions and explanations provisionally. At some point, overwhelming evidence for something means we can comfortably accept it as true (i.e., Relativity). Similarly, complete lack of evidence for something means we can comfortably dismiss it as not true (i.e., souls, heaven).
Of course,either of these can be changed by further evidence.
MisterDataJack 1 month ago
@MisterDataJack
I agree with you here entirely, but I wish people would really treat all scientific knowledge as tentative, and this pertains to phenomena we choose to accept AND dismiss.
Rustpuke 1 month ago
@Rustpuke Yes sir, scientific knowledge is tentative. Unless it's proven conclusively by means of mathematics. However, whenever science declares a scientific theory, such as the theory of gravity or evolution, historically there is never again any compelling evidence against the theory. So it may as well be counted on as "knowledge".
steviej321 1 month ago 13
@steviej321
Yup. I would push that further and say all knowledge is subjective and should therefore be tentative.
Rustpuke 1 month ago
@steviej321 The theory is taken as true until evidence dismisses it. Also it is never just one peice of evidence that leads to a theory. Just like once evolution was thought to be a theory however as additional scientific facts has been made it is now a real life actuality that can be proven and reproduced. So yes you are right one parts but missing the bigger picture.
whitefire1997 1 month ago
@whitefire1997
- "Just like once evolution was thought to be a theory..."
A scientific "theory" is not a guess, but an explanation. A scientific "fact" is an observation. The (scientific) theory of evolution explains the (observed) fact that evolution happens, so in scientific terms, evolution is both a theory and a fact.
The terminology is confusing because scientific terms like "theory" and "fact" (and "law") have specific meanings that are different from their meanings in everyday speech.
TheAtheistExperience 1 month ago
@TheAtheistExperience Theory - a proposed explanation whose status is still conjectural and subject to experimentation, in contrast to well-established propositions that are regarded as reporting matters of actual fact. Fact - a truth known by actual experience or observation; Guess - to estimate or conjecture about correctly.
Basically what I am saying is there is a process where a guess/hypothesis becomes a theory and then a theory becomes a fact.
The confusion is from missusing words.
whitefire1997 1 month ago
@TheAtheistExperience Oh and btw I am a huge fan of the show. Athiest and poud!
whitefire1997 1 month ago
@steviej321 Well said, but also a tad misleading. Spontaneous generation was a theory and it was pretty much shot to hell and back, just like that. That's actually why I love science: it's heartlessly truthful-- science doesn't lie because of peer review. But relying on sciense is not for everyone-- in fact, science is now taking the role keeping the human race alive... in times past: religion was king. Deny that and you are uneducated about it.
amberwhite122589 1 month ago
@steviej321
Not quite accurate... Newton's theory of gravity has since been replaced by Einstein's relativity. Newton's theory is technically wrong.
blackplatypus 1 month ago in playlist More videos from TheAtheistExperience
@blackplatypus when did this happen?!
PaleoClipper 1 month ago
@PaleoClipper
... in the early 20th century... with Einstein.
blackplatypus 1 month ago
Or they want a guy who believes in magic underwear hahahah
MTVVH1sucks 1 month ago
Russell looks like he's put on a few pounds.
Redshift21 1 month ago
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@XGod0
« Science thinks its right until its proven wrong by its own means. Then science makes up excuses to justify its error and carries on a charade »
Ehr, no. What actually happens is that we tentatively accept formulated explanations if they are more or less consistent with observational data, and then, if and when new data seems to contradict our explanation, we either reject the explanation in favor of a new and more accurate model, or we adjust the explanation to match the new data.
MrGralgrathor 1 month ago
@HeaLea77
your life is a waste of time... keep believing in your invisible friends you mentally ill asshole.
aegisgfx 1 month ago
@HeaLea77
sperm has a function, therefore god! I PROVED IT WIT SCIWENCE!!!
aegisgfx 1 month ago
@HeaLea77
see my shit, I took a shit! THATS PROOF GOD EXSISSTT!!!!
aegisgfx 1 month ago
There has been very little crazy on the show last few weeks, my guess is that the fundies have the word out Not to call now because they always end up looking like complete retards.
aegisgfx 1 month ago
It's time for Jeff to get some facial hair. Wagner got himself some, I'm waiting for him to go bald though, hopefully Dillahunty will convert him!
TurboDally 1 month ago
23:25 Yay!!!!!
23:44 Aww :(
LoungeFly02 1 month ago
Neal, if it's any comfort... we shall at least burn together, rather than do so alone.
That's what I'd have said at that last word with Neal from CA if I were one of the hosts there.
sapphire475gs 1 month ago
Strange callers... Nobody really had any questions, kind of boring. Not ya'lls fault though
Guitarded97 1 month ago
Atheist Community of British Columbia on FaceBook.com
Please press LIKE. Im trying to gather the atheist of of British Columbia! spread the word :)))
omelchenkoartem 1 month ago
some weird people calling...
catapei 1 month ago
that s a great program. eventhough there is a god or not it helps people to practice reason and not just believe in any thing someone tell u to believe.
catapei 1 month ago
@XGod0 Yawn....
Tiptoetherat 1 month ago
i love how you can sometimes hear the crew memebers laugh
xonktrof1 1 month ago
What was that first guy on???
AtheistinFundyLand 1 month ago
@AtheistinFundyLand
Probably the same stuff that Bush Jr. was on.
;)
lahdeefreakingdah1 1 month ago
Don't feed the troll.
AtheistinFundyLand 1 month ago
@AtheistinFundyLand
Agreed.
Although the trolls are often amusing to watch, when they go on their little tirades, and make empty threats from across cyber-space.
lahdeefreakingdah1 1 month ago
For anyone who's interested, the caller is referring to "Evid3nc3". Excellent channel and playlists. Another thing that same caller brings up is how intelligent people can believe this stuff. A channel called "anubis2814" has over 40 videos covering this topic. Great stuff! Highly recommended!
dayati 1 month ago
if you want to see some true bullshit bible-thumping retard, go to @boywhoy88 's channel
charliesbass 1 month ago
That is not true, Ron Paul never even talks about his religion and never brings it up in his arguments for his political ideology. He's gone out of his way to point out that religion is irrelevant.
darkpatriotx 1 month ago
@darkpatriotx
still his anti-science stance is very worrying.. he should stick to economics and stay the hell out of the presidential race.
aegisgfx 1 month ago
1st two calls are a total waste of time. 3rd call is kind of lame. The whole show was not as good as others. Don't waste your time today.
amindbody 1 month ago
Is being smug, condescending and patronising a prequesite of being an athiest? Or is that exclusively for bald, Texas based athiests?
WeebleWarbler 1 month ago
@WeebleWarbler the answer is 42
stupidtrooper501 1 month ago
@WeebleWarbler Christians do a pretty good job of that anyway so why not?
1984LizardKing 1 month ago
@WeebleWarbler You're confused. Being smug, condescending and patronising is a prerequisite for being a true Christian but you knew that already...also, being a poor speller.
Keansimmons 1 month ago 2
@WeebleWarbler
I'm starting to think it is a prerequesite for atheists. I am one myself, but I'm habitually disgusted by others of my ilk for those very reasons.
mushroomartist 1 month ago
God Bless America?
WeebleWarbler 1 month ago
I think they may want to come up with a new intro song for the new year. I am biased because I would gladly donate a song, but I am sure there are thousands of extremely talented musicians of all sorts who would be interested in creating a song for this program.
Nothing against the current song, just a little bit public TV-ish and kind of overly dramatic. Also, it kind of reminds me of Creed. Is that ironic?
ofSaturday 1 month ago
Atheism is NOT a religion, because.. religions are shit! And BULLSHIT. Stupid people.
BrutalacePSN 1 month ago
@BrutalacePSN A lot of believers confuse atheism with something like satanism. Obviously atheists think satanism is just as stupid as any other religion. It is a position based on ignorance and ignorance is never lacking among the ranks of the religious.
55chh 1 month ago
@55chh
LaVeyan Satanism (or what most people would simply call as satanism) does not involve the worship of any being other than the self nor does it involve any kind of supernatural element. 'Satan' was chosen purely as a symbol of worldly pleasures and as a rejection of the piousness, guilt and abstinence associated with the Judeo-Christian religions. It basically "enjoy yourself as much as you can without harming others". Satanists are, to all extents and purposes, Atheist.
mushimushi93 1 month ago
@mushimushi93 Perhaps you are right, I will admit to some ignorance when it comes to satanism. If it is as you say then a beter name would be Hedenism. Satanism evokes an image of the biblical satan, devil, lucifer or whatever, just another mythological being as far as I'm concerned. There is the perception of the bell, book and candle thing with pentagrams, incantations, ceremonies etc. Many unkowingly associate these things with atheism. One often hears "Why do you hate god?" Laughable but sad
55chh 1 month ago
@55chh I totally agree with what you said and was in know way trying to suggest you were ignorant. I think 'Satanism' is a terrible choice of name for their 'belief' system. I agree Hedonism is far more suitable choice. I think the most common misconception of Satanism is actually 'Devil Worship' as seen in many a late night 70's Hammer Horror movie and something that 'Satanists' and Atheists alike find as ridiculous as belief in a Christian god.
mushimushi93 1 month ago
@HeaLea77 Holy fuck, do you _REALLY_ believe that scientists believe that male humans were just running around confused about what to fuck until female humans evolved? ARRGH!!!! Oooooohhh....the stupid...it hurts my brain!! Seriously, I feel I'm having to short-circuit several neurons just to think about it!
macgeek2004 1 month ago
@HeaLea77 Holy shit, I don't think I've ever read anything so stupid in my life. I'm literally losing brain cells reading this.
I've met plenty of nice, intelligent theists. You aren't one of them. You make them look bad, in fact.
My advice to you; learn to write coherently and then take a sex ed class. Just... please. Please, please, please, educate yourself. Your very existence is depressing.
RiskyCricket 1 month ago
Jeff looks like he has three nostrils in this video.
WithSomeSpareTime 1 month ago
@WithSomeSpareTime Holy shit you're right! HAHAHA!!! Three nostrils FTW!
dayati 1 month ago
@HeaLea77 I'm sorry but that was a horrendous interpretation of how evolution works. For starters, the HUGE no no you used was using the term "choose". Evolution has nothing to do with "choosing". I think this is why we really need to step up scientific education at an early age.
ehandkz 1 month ago
@HeaLea77 Awww..science is hard and complicated and stuff, isn't it? So much easier to just throw up your hands and say "I can't figure it out, so god must have done it".
sithbane33 1 month ago
@sithbane33 I cringed at how badly that guy misunderstood pretty much everything he said.
ehandkz 1 month ago
@ehandkz It's enuff to make a grown man weep, sometimes, wha'?
sithbane33 1 month ago