@sad18240 Oh you're wrong dude, You can use that same exact move in No Gi BJJ or "real life street fight BJJ" just as smoothly as you can in Tournament BJJ. I have done it myself. And you can do it from many different positions too. It is only a simple arm drag technique it is not as if he was performing a cross collar choke where you need a Gi or some sort of a heavy jacket or something.
At first i thought using arm drag with gi is way harder than no gi because the opponent can keep control of you by just grabbing cloth. im trying this anyway, i love using armdrag to get on the back.
First of all, that is assuming that cburcinc even knows what he is talking about. Just because someone makes a generalized reference "olympic wrestlers" that implies that only high level wrestlers use this grip. I think it is a matter of preference and or situation that dictates that and not a wrestling/jui-jitsu thing. higher in the armpit you have more control of the opp upper body and can use this to keep them close/hip to hip like in a greco-roman tie.
but if you want to bring the arm across their body to attack the legs or isolate a particular side of your opponent you are probably better off controlling the tricep. I'm sure there are other reasons, but I still think preference, situation, and objectives dictate there uses.
why does Marcello recommend grabbing just above the posterior elbow, rather than way up high in the triceps (the way Olympic champion wrestlers often do) ?
its a moot point. The opponents arm is better able to resist a grab against the armpit than against the bottom of the upper arm near the elbow; the leverage is better for the person attempting the move.
why they don't do that in wrestling i haven't a clue.
The armpit in wrestling is used because it is actually much harder to resist the drag than if you were to just grap at the humerus, and the wrist grap is next to uselss while standing or without the gi. With the gi more possiblities arise, as the number of grips you can use to attack increase. This grip is an excellent attack for gi fighting, where as when he does this without a gi he does, if memory serves, use the armpit grip.. It is a more secure no gi grip.
Terere has bested Marcelo as much as Roger has. Terere has beaten Garcia twice in one year. First by points by taking his back and the second by submission in the finals of the 2003 world championships via triangle choke, it was masterfully done.
The only thing i don't like about these techniques is that they are for tournament BJJ and not real life street fight BJJ
sad18240 1 year ago
@sad18240 Oh you're wrong dude, You can use that same exact move in No Gi BJJ or "real life street fight BJJ" just as smoothly as you can in Tournament BJJ. I have done it myself. And you can do it from many different positions too. It is only a simple arm drag technique it is not as if he was performing a cross collar choke where you need a Gi or some sort of a heavy jacket or something.
kanguesso 8 months ago
arm drag aê, pra quem ta iniciando agora esse golpe faz a diferrença no começo do rala.
rodrigojm101 2 years ago
leverage is less important in WRESTLING
because there is no submission!
However in SAMBO,CATCH as CATCH CAN and BJJ (All the submission wrestling) leverage is important!
Positions are not for point only ,but for submission!
In GRECO_ROMAIN,the leverage is more
important than in FREESTYLE!
MegaHitman666 2 years ago
No! ! I'm Brazlian. you're ashamed for Brasil. You dumb punk!!!!
malucousa 2 years ago
thanks !
tigersharkbunashi 3 years ago
At first i thought using arm drag with gi is way harder than no gi because the opponent can keep control of you by just grabbing cloth. im trying this anyway, i love using armdrag to get on the back.
rustynail77 3 years ago
First of all, that is assuming that cburcinc even knows what he is talking about. Just because someone makes a generalized reference "olympic wrestlers" that implies that only high level wrestlers use this grip. I think it is a matter of preference and or situation that dictates that and not a wrestling/jui-jitsu thing. higher in the armpit you have more control of the opp upper body and can use this to keep them close/hip to hip like in a greco-roman tie.
karelin275 3 years ago
but if you want to bring the arm across their body to attack the legs or isolate a particular side of your opponent you are probably better off controlling the tricep. I'm sure there are other reasons, but I still think preference, situation, and objectives dictate there uses.
karelin275 3 years ago
I don't speak english and I want yours fuck!
hahahahahah
I'm Brazilian.hahahahah
sou brasileiro. hahahahaha
vão se lascar bando de gringo.
edneifranjr 3 years ago
because its jiu jistu not wrestling dumbass
saratoul 3 years ago
why does Marcello recommend grabbing just above the posterior elbow, rather than way up high in the triceps (the way Olympic champion wrestlers often do) ?
thanks !
cburcinc 3 years ago
leverage maybe? Jiu jitsu is more centered on leverage whereas wrestling moves are often strength based.
crwv 3 years ago 3
explain how leverage is less important in wrestling.
karelin275 3 years ago
its a moot point. The opponents arm is better able to resist a grab against the armpit than against the bottom of the upper arm near the elbow; the leverage is better for the person attempting the move.
why they don't do that in wrestling i haven't a clue.
crwv 3 years ago
The armpit in wrestling is used because it is actually much harder to resist the drag than if you were to just grap at the humerus, and the wrist grap is next to uselss while standing or without the gi. With the gi more possiblities arise, as the number of grips you can use to attack increase. This grip is an excellent attack for gi fighting, where as when he does this without a gi he does, if memory serves, use the armpit grip.. It is a more secure no gi grip.
Godsmasher22 2 years ago
@crwv wrestling moves us leverage too!
sabakimsg 1 year ago 2
garcia is a great fighter. one of the bests in our days at the world.
98284460 4 years ago 4
Fuck that Marcelo is better than Roger P4P!
Nisp 4 years ago
Terere has bested Marcelo as much as Roger has. Terere has beaten Garcia twice in one year. First by points by taking his back and the second by submission in the finals of the 2003 world championships via triangle choke, it was masterfully done.
vincespell 4 years ago
Roger Gracie outweighs Garcia by about 30-40 pounds.
Plimp73 4 years ago 2
60-70. Roger grapples at 220-225, Marcelo is a LW.
crwv 3 years ago
GARCIA is a CHAIN SAW ,nobody stand his way,GI or no GI.
THAT is NOT a QUESTION; It is a PROBLEM for everybody
but HIM.I like JAKARE too.
armand005 4 years ago
mint! thank you
urtoast6 4 years ago
i've searched everywhere for this! thank you!
ArunBJJ 4 years ago
cool
goki098 4 years ago