Again 1 min:29 seconds of this video blows over 2000 years of Christianity straight out of the watter ,but then again one taut could disbelive this video. its all just mad.
(2) stop reading fantasy books and came to reality, first you need to know everything about this life before you can begin to preach on the other. it's like an Arab said the persian golf belongs to the Arab,shah of Iran said,do y have not been to school, what did you learn that it's called, PERSIAN GOLF, what the fuck do you not Understand the Words of his poem.how the fuck can you conect this poem to Islam or more of his other poems, or love and erotic poems
(1) he had to say he was a Muslim, you can not history, that time was so, he was forced to make two poems about Islam in order to not get hurt. secondly, he is not Turkish, he is from the Persian / Iran who migrated to Turkey. seriously you need to educate yourself, read books, literature and for this purpose Persian literature.
@afiqjenoba your more disillusion than a blind monkey in a playground, i guess its because of allahs narrow ideology, its their my thoughts or everyone else is dead wrong, maybe you should start reading less quran and more open minded material, good day
@afiqjenoba aaa but hes talking about love, its not an religion, isn't from any of the worlds, doesn't contain any of the elements, it is traceless and placeless, and it lives in the beloved, in the person that is in love
Olá, amiga! muito bom seu video parabens linda musica fantastico nota(10) ********** estrela para brilhar com você, e continue assim com esse dom maravilhoso que você tem que Deus abençê você.
Forte abraço e fique com Deus para que ele ilumine seu camiho maravilhoso.
Only the one who has renounced this world& tasted the sweetness of real love is the one who understands every language,until then we are just shadows upon the eternal sea...
@gayesay He is talking about himself, listen to the last sentence, in a way you're right, he is talking about Allah, because as he says in the last sentence, they are one
Hello To All Guys He Was Big Stupid Some Time Look We Human Being Came From Earth Or Soul It Is Boday And Inside Body Its Sould Dear Jalaldin Molana Was Wrong know He Was Good Man But These Words Are Crazy and useless Goodluck
Hello To All Guys He Was Big Stupid Some Time Look We Human Being Came From Earth Or Soul It Is Boday And Inside Body Its Sould Dear Jalaldin Molana Was Wrong know He Was Good Man But These Words Are Crazy and useless Goodluck.
Hello To All Guys He Was Big Stupid Some Time.... Look We Human Being Came From ... Earth Or Soul..... It Is Boday And Inside Body Its Sould Dear Jalaldin Molana Was Wrong.....I know He Was Good Man But These Words Are Crazy and useless Goodluck.
Hello To All Guys He Was Big Stupid Some Time.... Look We Human Being Came From ... Earth Or Soul..... It Is Boday And Inside Body Its Sould Dear Jalaldin Molana Was Wrong.....I know He Was Good Man But These Words Are Crazy and useless Goodluck
pure love is what God is supposed to stand for. this poem is about being one with God.
whatever religion you are, all religions push for the good in people
all religions want to promote pure love. pure love is not of this universe, which revolves around negativity (open ur eyes and look around ppl are swayed by their own desires)
in rumis words, you conquer your desires your true beauty shines
no greed, no deceit, pure and honest.
radiating pure love and positivity and love into the world
These words are just like the words by Baba Bulleh shah, the sufi whose famous words"bullah kee jana mainn kaun", mean...bullah...I know not what am I.
@omadbaba Yes and No. His "god" is not a religious type of god. It's the Consciousness. Sufis (along with other esoteric traditions) believed that god is not a separate entity from other creatures. and the true self of everyone is indeed god. That's why it's very important to translate this poem correctly. In original Persian text he says "I am the soul of the beloved itself" (Man khod jaane jaanaanam).
@inday811 yes, the beloved is the only One u belong to, not to an idea, concept, religion, or anything man mad.......hehe congratulation my proud christian!
@inday811 You are misunderstanding me. The poem writer says he belongs only to the ONE (God), which I believe is true to everyone. But in your case you said you belong to a man made religion (chrtianity, or whatever )... I didnt say you belong to me..lol
@cypriot1965 To be honest with you he did not care about humanity either. That's a common misconception many people have because they are using current and fashionable moral values. What Rumi is saying here is that he belongs to the One Spirit (he and the entire cosmos and god are One), any other identity we assume (including nationality or even humanity) is false and arbitrary.
Spirituality is itself a strong belief! Without belief its nothing. :)
All da sufis give the same msg! In fact, "Mansoor(RA)" puts it in a very beautiful way. He kept on saying "Im Haqq", now Haqq in Islam is referred to God, n was intolerable to many. When he was just to be hanged, he was asked to repent for forgivingness. He said;
"When a drop falls in the ocean, it itself becomes an ocean, Now its time to meet the beloved"
@artistdigital It's true that the sufis and other spirituals masters used words and logic to somehow convey their msg to others. However, belief on their own is NOT spirituality. The point I am trying to make is that spirituality is experiential, not idealogical (=it is not sth to be truly understood by mind/logic/words).
@artistdigital You don't even have to be Muslim. It has nothing to do with religion!!!!!
(nothing has been so misunderstood as much as much as divinity and spirituality! Essentially religion and spiritually do not go together very well, unless one understands the fact that there is no truth in religion and it's just a symbolic and arbitrary way to express some dimensions of spirituality.)
Now, if u submit ur will to God, God will take u on a journey. A journey that is divine! You r not responsible for anything, then. Now this is the concept n this is Islam. In fact, Islam makes it much easier, if one follows.
The center of all spirituality is God, other then that, its mirage! :)
Spirituality is as ancient, as Human race n its relation with God.
@artistdigital spirituality has nothing to do in belief. It's a practice not belief. Spirituality comes when all beliefs and ideologies are put to sleep. and ironically as Rumis says when you start talking about spirituality, you've lost spirituality: عین اظهار سخن پوشیدن است
Rumi writes: " I belong to the soul of the Beloved". There is no other in his stellar poetry, just the Beloved and the sweet nectar of the Beloved. Rumi was about commonality of humanity, not difference.
The roots of Sufism precedes Islam. Sufism in Iran is the continuity of esoteric traditions in Zoroastrianism, Mitrasim and even beyond. Sohrevardi has extensive literature on this, which he calls Hekmate Khosravanieh.
All esoteric traditions point to the same thing, they are expressed differently when they come to words. Sufism, like Buddhism, and other esoteric traditions is essentially about *LIVING IN THE MOMENT* (= letting go of ego by living beyond time and mental abstractions).
But, its just my opinion I do not intend to get in any sort of argument.
I tries to say in a way that we are nothing but nothingness but yet not nothingness, we belong to the Beloved(God) we are like the Beloved describes (in essence) only his breath(i.e spirit: in essence).
...it is so TRUE...who ever knows the absolute and infinite intelligence of the one supreme God, he will be on the majestic path...thought is a force, a prayer is a force...it is time to cleanse our thoughts for the best of human kind...
Actually, it is a bit more complicated. Sufis start interpreting literally, then move to deeper level of knowledge, then they shed material strings, then the heart gets involved and then the trouble starts, then they get violent encounter from mediocor (literal) minds!
I am a Sufi myself, and all sufis DONOT think alike becuz the culture might be different. The one thing that we do have in common, is that we know the spark of ALLAH IS IN MAN, and once one knows this, u donot fall into MEANINGLESS rituals.
Theres nothing wrong with literal things, its just that the ones who say "Mohammed said this" and "the hadith says that", are usually the ones who think that the Arabian islam is the ONLY path. However, they donot know that 'Islam' is BEFORE......
Of course Haqq is one and the conflict arises from differing interpretation of that Hqq which is independent of the interpreter. I wonder if the problem arises when we start executing our interpretation on others before we internalize it, practice it and cleanse our heart.
For sure, it is easy to execute what we know on others than ourselves.
We are programmed to have differing opinion and that is the fact. BUT, some are very afraid that differing interpretation will ruin Islam.
We exist not by our own choice however, we have to select our choices as they will have to be deliberate. Clarity of a message makes it powerful and more widely acceptable. Indirect concepts usually fade away as they are often Misinterpreted-- and so I say:
I'm a muslim created for clay my home is in paradise and I'm on earth now. My soul belogs to its creator Allah.
if Allah "Created" your soul, then you have a beginning and ending and ur measured up by time. Its the ONENESS of Allah that you shud seek; refuge in that which was NEVER created......
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Allah do not Exist. Every single one of you has the potential to be allah or god or krishna or buddha, Shams thought him that in other to be fluid he has to be separate from all this boxes and even thou he was a religious scholar when he met shams he began to question and fall to the path of knowledge instead of ignorance and abide path of islam,
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This is not Rumi.. This is a poetry by a famous poet in Indo-Pakistan sub continent, named "BULLAH SHAH". He was from "Bukhara" and migrated to Punjab (India at that time, now in Pakistan).
This video is the translation of his famous poem "Bullah kee jana main kon?" which means "Bullah I don't know who am I?"
You are CONTROLED FOR THE CONTROLERS PURPOSE IF YOU BELEIVE IN THE bIBLE GOD, aLAH, ETC. tHEY ARE FAIRYTALES LIKE sANTA cLAUSE AND THE EASTER BUNNY, iREALISED THIS 10 YEARS AGO. BELEIVE IN YOURSELF AND EITHER JOIN THE GOOD SIDE OF LIVING OR THE BAD SIDE OR LIKE MOST OF THE PEOPLE ON EARTH A LITTLE OF BOTH FOR WHICH WILL SUIT YOUR PURPOSE BEST EVEN IF IT WILL MEAN DAMNATION IN HELL. if YOU BELEIVE IN THE bIBLE YOU WOULD BE LIVING IN A CAVE SOMEWHERE AWAY FROM ALL OF SOCIETY THAT GOES AGAINST YOU
3:64 Say: "O People of the Book! come to common terms as between us and you: That we worship none but Allah; that we associate no partners with him; that we erect not, from among ourselves, Lords and patrons other than Allah." If then they turn back, say ye: "Bear witness that we (at least) are Muslims (bowing to Allah's Will)
yoU ARE bowing to Muslims will , to control you and use you to do their dirty work, The controlers use the best WMD in the world FEAR of Fairytales like Alah BAba , The Bible God, Jesus. Wake up! Any religon that requests money or your prayers won't be anwerd is FAKE. Beleive in yourself, and choose to be good or bad. But not one or the other for when it suits you. But either way is ok, no God is going to reward you good nor condem you for bad, We do the bidding of the Universe thinking I
Founded circa 700 BC by the Persians it was already the capital of the Sogdian satrapy under the Achaemenid dynasty of Persia when Alexander the Great conquered it in 329 BC.
See, since Rumi came first, so the orignal belongs to him. However, Bulleh Shah has a Punjabi version, that you can say is a translation of this poem..
Thank you for this beautiful poem, by Rumi. As the 12 century Sufi, Ebn'Arabi said: My heart has become capable of all forms, A prairie for the gazelles; A covenant for the monks; A Ka'ba for the pilgrims; The book of the Qur'an; The tablets of the Torah; I profess the religion of love, And regardless of which direction its steed may lead, Love is my religion and my creed!
I think that all these comments on Rumi's nationality miss the point of his real message in this poem. Rumi tells us clearly where he feels he belongs to..
he was born in Iran, back then Khorasan (todays afghanistan) and Iran (and also Tajikistan) were ONE country, and they ALL were (and still ARE) PERSIANS, if you had slightest info you would know this, people speak Parsi in Khorasan and Tajikistan BECAUSE THEY ARE PERSIAN.
he (Rumi) then HAD to live his homeland because of the war and moved to Anatolia, Turkey NEVER EXISTED BACK THEN,
TURKEY IS A HIJACKED LAND BY TURKO-MONGOLS, IT BELONGS TO KURDS, GREEKS, ARMENIANS BUT TURKS.
Khorasan is now also in usbekistan near turkistan (samarkant Buchara for ex.).there evrywhere live turks. and turks are not mongols you persian stupid Iranian shit hadijiz. we are from seldjuck mevlana came to the seldjuck in konya. becouse he was turkish!! Mongols diferent. you son of batman Mullahs. what do the do in iran now they fuck with girls of ten years. HasbiyAllah!!
So what? his poems are in Farsi, no matter where he was born or died, or what you think. Exactly in this poemhere, Rumi is saying that he doesn't belog to any nationality, so I really don't understand why, and why you insist he is Turkish!! I don't care where he was from, but just keep in YOUR mind that his poems are INDEED in FARSI. And... I think he belongs to all human beings
This poems are not farsi they are Osmanic. mix of arabic, turkish and farsi in original ."he belongs to all human beings" thats true!! so why all persians say he was persian?? thats not true!! he belogs to the turk. why this stupid people in iran call us turks Donkey? hafis,Shams-i Tabrizi where persian i love them both even like Mevlana! Sufisim lives only in turkey now. where is Bulbul and Gul in your country.Dark Mullahs are the persians now!!
There was no Afghanistan back then. What today is called Afghanistan was part of Persia (indeed the major cities of Persia in the medival times were in today Afghanistan and Tajikestan.)
Rumi seeked refuge in Turkey as a result of Mongolian invasion, he lived a few years there before he died.
All of his poems are also in Persian. He read previous Persian poets and philosopher and wrote in persian. It's very absord to say that he was Turkish just because his grave happens to be there!
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well it is not a song it is a poem by the greatest poet Mawlana Jalaludin Balkhi (Rumi) whow as from Afghanistan and then went to Rome that's why he is Called Rumi all his poems are in Dari (persian) Afghani Language he was a muslim and all his poems should be understood completly to understand Allah
This is what I learned from Rumis poem: What really counts is that we belong to "the soul of the beloved". All other things are of lesser importance. We honour the Lover most by respecting and loving each other. All other things are of lesser importance.
The central theme and message in Rumi's poems is the smelting of human into the creator by unconditional love - what results in the reunion of human and divine - leading to the consequence that every being is from divine origin, what mankind has forgotten. Being aware of the entity of creator and creation the man, which understood himself as an separated individual begins to awake feeling that the creator has taken place in the human. So the man becomes to the center of his own wheel of life.
Rumi was born in Balkh, true. and Balkh is in today Afghanestan, true. However, back then there was no Afghanestan, and Balkh was part of Iran/Persia.
thats the most stupid comment i ever heard some one said,
but if you mean Rumi was from any background except Persian, you are dead wrong, he was born in a Persian family, from a Persian Father and mother, in a Persian city,
he spoke Persian, and wrote in Persian,
when nations like Arabs or Turko-mongols dont have any thing to be proud of or to build up their culture, they steal it from others!
Please don't find excuses not to follow the religion...a lot of us want to live an easy life and try to justify their false lives by discarding religion.
Who can voice the truth? Who can express the essence of our nature and release the wonderment of our totality? Every breathe we take, every explanation we introduce or definition we exhale is but the very dance of the beloved. The meanings fall and shatter and collapse into their own emptiness. For meanings and labels are destinations that separate us from who we truly are, movement. We are the motion of the dance the beloved has envoked.
maybe my comments or tusan 1's are too strange for general people..
It's really hard for everybody to understand it..
I know it.. at the first time I was confuse and disagree with every perseption like that.. but that's okey.. it's normal condition that every people has diffrent thinking about something in this life..
But 1 thing that for me this is important.. I still believe in god.. Allah is my lord..
Sorry my english isn't good enough.. I'm from indonesia..
Ironically, people who name god (be it Allah, Lord, Yahveh, AhuraMazda,...) do not believe in a "true" god as their god is created by their own imagination. It is a paradox. god is supposed to create you, not you to create god.
Hence, traditions like Budhasim which do not objectify the truth and don't give any identity to the truth, are much closer to the truth than stratified religions which elaborate on god. food for thought!
bebin beshin ro kiram..allah allah jehova mehova o azin kosho shera vase nanat kon..
to ke engdhar zer mizani bajad bedoni ke..sokhan bedone adab yahni sefr hanidkappe badbakht taze gohe rumiam mikhore... fuck u and ure buddism crap.. zardtoshti and rumi is all we need u fucker...dont preech about persian culture our rumi with ure mixed japanse chinese crap..and dont insult people cause this is the reaction
Just because you have a name for God, for instance Allah, which literally means The One God, doesn't mean that you created God. Some of us believe in revelation and a Creator that wants to be known. God has given us the gift of language so we use it, and what more beautiful a word then the One, Allah.
You should save your pitty for yourself, looking at history selectively will only leave you ignorant. Allah, literally meaning "the one God" was the God of Abraham. During the time of ignornce the Arabs made an idol representing Him. Though I assure you "The one God" was a concept that goes further back than the time of ignorance, a time which you still seem to be living in.
In respond to the wrong understanding of this poem, I know to tell you that this poem is just for God the great.
only he is not soul or body and he belongs to every soul, so he is the loved and the beloved. thanks to all.
5905752 2 months ago
what is the beloved ?
TheFunkytownbrown 2 months ago
Again 1 min:29 seconds of this video blows over 2000 years of Christianity straight out of the watter ,but then again one taut could disbelive this video. its all just mad.
Helden6621 2 months ago
(2) stop reading fantasy books and came to reality, first you need to know everything about this life before you can begin to preach on the other. it's like an Arab said the persian golf belongs to the Arab,shah of Iran said,do y have not been to school, what did you learn that it's called, PERSIAN GOLF, what the fuck do you not Understand the Words of his poem.how the fuck can you conect this poem to Islam or more of his other poems, or love and erotic poems
ezrail2007 4 months ago
(1) he had to say he was a Muslim, you can not history, that time was so, he was forced to make two poems about Islam in order to not get hurt. secondly, he is not Turkish, he is from the Persian / Iran who migrated to Turkey. seriously you need to educate yourself, read books, literature and for this purpose Persian literature.
ezrail2007 4 months ago
everyone gets it different. lets live with it. live with what you live, live with life.and dont get into others live.peace..
ekolisss 4 months ago
@afiqjenoba your more disillusion than a blind monkey in a playground, i guess its because of allahs narrow ideology, its their my thoughts or everyone else is dead wrong, maybe you should start reading less quran and more open minded material, good day
EsteghlalTillDeath 4 months ago
@afiqjenoba aaa but hes talking about love, its not an religion, isn't from any of the worlds, doesn't contain any of the elements, it is traceless and placeless, and it lives in the beloved, in the person that is in love
EsteghlalTillDeath 4 months ago
is everyone here deaf? do you guys not hear him say nor muslim? so no allah, therefore no religion. it takes something special to be this restarted
EsteghlalTillDeath 4 months ago
@afiqjenoba if only allah would stop killing
EsteghlalTillDeath 4 months ago
Learne Farsi then you understand what he is saying
mustafazakri 5 months ago
@exMuslimuk Why are you an ex muslim? Just curious
roomi4u23 5 months ago
I am an exmuslim, but I still loved the video. Can somebody tell me where the music is from?
ExMuslimUK 6 months ago
thanks
hedavie 6 months ago
Olá, amiga! muito bom seu video parabens linda musica fantastico nota(10) ********** estrela para brilhar com você, e continue assim com esse dom maravilhoso que você tem que Deus abençê você.
Forte abraço e fique com Deus para que ele ilumine seu camiho maravilhoso.
Att.....Juvenil
heliclops 6 months ago
can anyone tell me the name of the piece of music plz
moeesa 6 months ago
Just life then death
deansusky 7 months ago
Only the one who has renounced this world& tasted the sweetness of real love is the one who understands every language,until then we are just shadows upon the eternal sea...
caspiro7 8 months ago 3
That no about Rumi or whatever.. It's about reality.. reality of everything that existed..
xEXilUx 9 months ago
@cypriot1965 Rumi does not talking about him self. Talking about Allah .
gayesay 11 months ago
@gayesay He is talking about himself, listen to the last sentence, in a way you're right, he is talking about Allah, because as he says in the last sentence, they are one
lordandy8 8 months ago
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Hello To All Guys He Was Big Stupid Some Time Look We Human Being Came From Earth Or Soul It Is Boday And Inside Body Its Sould Dear Jalaldin Molana Was Wrong know He Was Good Man But These Words Are Crazy and useless Goodluck
kandasoo 1 year ago
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Hello To All Guys He Was Big Stupid Some Time Look We Human Being Came From Earth Or Soul It Is Boday And Inside Body Its Sould Dear Jalaldin Molana Was Wrong know He Was Good Man But These Words Are Crazy and useless Goodluck.
kandasoo 1 year ago
Hello To All Guys He Was Big Stupid Some Time.... Look We Human Being Came From ... Earth Or Soul..... It Is Boday And Inside Body Its Sould Dear Jalaldin Molana Was Wrong.....I know He Was Good Man But These Words Are Crazy and useless Goodluck.
kandasoo 1 year ago
@kandasoo hi brother i think you are mistaken
this is something that we all should learn and follow
all religions try to teach you this but Mavlana expresses the whole process in one piece of peom
moggirules 1 year ago
@kandasoo ....RESPECT MY Dear.
carlito9070 10 months ago
Hello To All Guys He Was Big Stupid Some Time.... Look We Human Being Came From ... Earth Or Soul..... It Is Boday And Inside Body Its Sould Dear Jalaldin Molana Was Wrong.....I know He Was Good Man But These Words Are Crazy and useless Goodluck
kandasoo 1 year ago
He does not say "I belong to the soul of the beloved"; he says "I am soul of the beloved". Very poor translation.
tosan1 1 year ago
@tosan1 thank you, that was like a revelation!
lemuriavi 10 months ago
pure love is what God is supposed to stand for. this poem is about being one with God.
whatever religion you are, all religions push for the good in people
all religions want to promote pure love. pure love is not of this universe, which revolves around negativity (open ur eyes and look around ppl are swayed by their own desires)
in rumis words, you conquer your desires your true beauty shines
no greed, no deceit, pure and honest.
radiating pure love and positivity and love into the world
CHARKHXBEZAN247 1 year ago
These words are just like the words by Baba Bulleh shah, the sufi whose famous words"bullah kee jana mainn kaun", mean...bullah...I know not what am I.
pichoni 1 year ago
Wonderfull..One Love...
castravet 1 year ago
I love it! That's really what I am.....
Zentralsonne 1 year ago
there is no GOD. inshallah hahah
ihsahk 1 year ago
like alooot
Martinazizmic 1 year ago
By beloved he means God?
omadbaba 1 year ago
@omadbaba yes dear.
erenyuce 1 year ago
@omadbaba Yes and No. His "god" is not a religious type of god. It's the Consciousness. Sufis (along with other esoteric traditions) believed that god is not a separate entity from other creatures. and the true self of everyone is indeed god. That's why it's very important to translate this poem correctly. In original Persian text he says "I am the soul of the beloved itself" (Man khod jaane jaanaanam).
tosan1 1 year ago 2
@tosan1 Exactly
lordandy8 8 months ago
What he's trying to say is that he is the Beloved's slave and that only to HIM does he belong - nothing else but His
sselmicaa 1 year ago
MashaAllah how powerful.
sselmicaa 1 year ago 2
SUBHANALLAH!
kabooterjajaja 1 year ago
Could someone tell me the name of the song or the artist?
evasion89 1 year ago
@evasion89 the song name is gulumcan
istanbulmasali 1 year ago
hahahaha... just at the end,, you had to claim that you belong to something.
Anyway, i am a Christian. and very much proud of it.
inday811 1 year ago
@inday811 yes, the beloved is the only One u belong to, not to an idea, concept, religion, or anything man mad.......hehe congratulation my proud christian!
theiceman74 1 year ago
@theiceman74 thanks. but i don't think you're a Christian yourself.
and correction my friend, that ONE whom i belong to?
It is an idea, a concept, and a religion.
and who are you to call me yours?
are you Jesus?
very funny.
anyway,
It is what i believe.
and of course, you can always have yours too.
bye.
inday811 1 year ago
@inday811 You are misunderstanding me. The poem writer says he belongs only to the ONE (God), which I believe is true to everyone. But in your case you said you belong to a man made religion (chrtianity, or whatever )... I didnt say you belong to me..lol
theiceman74 1 year ago
@inday811 i am not as stupid as you think i am.
inday811 1 year ago
Who made this?
annettesalsman 1 year ago
can someone please tell me whats this song name?
NutCrackerNuts 1 year ago
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istanbulmasali 1 year ago
@NutCrackerNuts the song name is gulumcan
istanbulmasali 1 year ago
@istanbulmasali thank you very much!
NutCrackerNuts 1 year ago
go to wopg
sami77771000 1 year ago
I have to see it again and again and again and it feels like dancing......
Zentralsonne 1 year ago
there is no I - there is no there- is is only is!
tareekhnawees 1 year ago
Beautiful Truth
RabAdamson 1 year ago
GREAT GREAT GREAT GREAT GREAT GREAT
kabooterjajaja 1 year ago
@cypriot1965 To be honest with you he did not care about humanity either. That's a common misconception many people have because they are using current and fashionable moral values. What Rumi is saying here is that he belongs to the One Spirit (he and the entire cosmos and god are One), any other identity we assume (including nationality or even humanity) is false and arbitrary.
tosan1 1 year ago
@tosan1
Spirituality is itself a strong belief! Without belief its nothing. :)
All da sufis give the same msg! In fact, "Mansoor(RA)" puts it in a very beautiful way. He kept on saying "Im Haqq", now Haqq in Islam is referred to God, n was intolerable to many. When he was just to be hanged, he was asked to repent for forgivingness. He said;
"When a drop falls in the ocean, it itself becomes an ocean, Now its time to meet the beloved"
artistdigital 1 year ago
@artistdigital It's true that the sufis and other spirituals masters used words and logic to somehow convey their msg to others. However, belief on their own is NOT spirituality. The point I am trying to make is that spirituality is experiential, not idealogical (=it is not sth to be truly understood by mind/logic/words).
tosan1 1 year ago
@tosan1
I agree on this!!! :)
This is a very tough path n Satan often misguides people but again "Love" is the key!!
artistdigital 1 year ago
this is not of Rumi
none of the Rumi scholars consider this fabricated poem of Rumi
kdastyari 2 years ago
@kdastyari Actually many do! It's the Muslim Orthodox who say this is not Rumi's.
tosan1 1 year ago
@tosan
This poem is referring to the philosophy of "kun fayaqoon" ( " "Be" and "It is" "). The divine "Order" by God, for creation to be created.
artistdigital 1 year ago
PAR EXCELLENCE! SALAMAT AND MABUHAY!
guccikoto 2 years ago
Every true Muslim when experiences divine love becomes a Sufi!!
Sufism is beautiful! Allah is beautiful and his Messenger(SAW) is beautiful!!
artistdigital 2 years ago 4
@artistdigital You don't even have to be Muslim. It has nothing to do with religion!!!!!
(nothing has been so misunderstood as much as much as divinity and spirituality! Essentially religion and spiritually do not go together very well, unless one understands the fact that there is no truth in religion and it's just a symbolic and arbitrary way to express some dimensions of spirituality.)
tosan1 1 year ago 2
:)
The basic concept behind spirituality is
i) Belief in God.
ii) Submitting your will to God
Now, if u submit ur will to God, God will take u on a journey. A journey that is divine! You r not responsible for anything, then. Now this is the concept n this is Islam. In fact, Islam makes it much easier, if one follows.
The center of all spirituality is God, other then that, its mirage! :)
Spirituality is as ancient, as Human race n its relation with God.
artistdigital 1 year ago
@artistdigital spirituality has nothing to do in belief. It's a practice not belief. Spirituality comes when all beliefs and ideologies are put to sleep. and ironically as Rumis says when you start talking about spirituality, you've lost spirituality: عین اظهار سخن پوشیدن است
tosan1 1 year ago
True Islam is so beautiful!
Most of Rumis peotry is about the love for Allah and all his creations.
TAHMURI 2 years ago 2
Rumi writes: " I belong to the soul of the Beloved". There is no other in his stellar poetry, just the Beloved and the sweet nectar of the Beloved. Rumi was about commonality of humanity, not difference.
His point is simply to know the Beloved.
Beautifully rendered.
IAmSpiritPoet 2 years ago
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okacinilmaz 2 years ago
The roots of Sufism precedes Islam. Sufism in Iran is the continuity of esoteric traditions in Zoroastrianism, Mitrasim and even beyond. Sohrevardi has extensive literature on this, which he calls Hekmate Khosravanieh.
All esoteric traditions point to the same thing, they are expressed differently when they come to words. Sufism, like Buddhism, and other esoteric traditions is essentially about *LIVING IN THE MOMENT* (= letting go of ego by living beyond time and mental abstractions).
tosan1 2 years ago 3
I disagree with the way you described Sufism.
But, its just my opinion I do not intend to get in any sort of argument.
I tries to say in a way that we are nothing but nothingness but yet not nothingness, we belong to the Beloved(God) we are like the Beloved describes (in essence) only his breath(i.e spirit: in essence).
inkuban 2 years ago
that is only Rumi who is able to speak bravely the truth of human power...
aminwakili 2 years ago
hey dudefromlondon...
PLEASE stop using the name of my god,Allah, for your own intolerance,righteousness and prejudice...
Focus on improving YOURSELF first during this beautiful month of Ramadhan... *peacebliss*
jitzmak 2 years ago
...it is so TRUE...who ever knows the absolute and infinite intelligence of the one supreme God, he will be on the majestic path...thought is a force, a prayer is a force...it is time to cleanse our thoughts for the best of human kind...
PEACE :)
ForeverAngelofGOD 2 years ago
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Islam sucks.
SirianKings 2 years ago
you are entitled to your own intolerance,righteousness and prejudice... *peacebliss*
jitzmak 2 years ago
really good.
joaopedroleitao 2 years ago
Alhamdulilla there is still proof of the ture Islam in this worl.
Rumi obviusly lived after the Quran - wich all of us muslims should do.
Thx for this wonderfull poem.
BMO1968 2 years ago
true* Islam ;P
BMO1968 2 years ago
Sufis interpret the quran SYMBOLICALLY, while Al-islam does LITERALLY, this is the difference.....
HansumTrini 2 years ago 3
Actually, it is a bit more complicated. Sufis start interpreting literally, then move to deeper level of knowledge, then they shed material strings, then the heart gets involved and then the trouble starts, then they get violent encounter from mediocor (literal) minds!
Peace;
tezol21 2 years ago
I am a Sufi myself, and all sufis DONOT think alike becuz the culture might be different. The one thing that we do have in common, is that we know the spark of ALLAH IS IN MAN, and once one knows this, u donot fall into MEANINGLESS rituals.
Theres nothing wrong with literal things, its just that the ones who say "Mohammed said this" and "the hadith says that", are usually the ones who think that the Arabian islam is the ONLY path. However, they donot know that 'Islam' is BEFORE......
HansumTrini 2 years ago
Of course Haqq is one and the conflict arises from differing interpretation of that Hqq which is independent of the interpreter. I wonder if the problem arises when we start executing our interpretation on others before we internalize it, practice it and cleanse our heart.
For sure, it is easy to execute what we know on others than ourselves.
We are programmed to have differing opinion and that is the fact. BUT, some are very afraid that differing interpretation will ruin Islam.
tezol21 2 years ago
omg this is AWESOME
KhalqiTojikBikhez 2 years ago 2
You are nothing ? and yet yu have a voice and a vedio !!
retlifwolley 2 years ago
the trick is to be and not be deliberately,
mohammedghasemi 2 years ago
We exist not by our own choice however, we have to select our choices as they will have to be deliberate. Clarity of a message makes it powerful and more widely acceptable. Indirect concepts usually fade away as they are often Misinterpreted-- and so I say:
I'm a muslim created for clay my home is in paradise and I'm on earth now. My soul belogs to its creator Allah.
retlifwolley 2 years ago
From clay
retlifwolley 2 years ago
if Allah "Created" your soul, then you have a beginning and ending and ur measured up by time. Its the ONENESS of Allah that you shud seek; refuge in that which was NEVER created......
HansumTrini 2 years ago
I agree and submit my well to Allah and ask him to treat me with his kindness and have mercy on my weakness.
retlifwolley 2 years ago
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Allah do not Exist. Every single one of you has the potential to be allah or god or krishna or buddha, Shams thought him that in other to be fluid he has to be separate from all this boxes and even thou he was a religious scholar when he met shams he began to question and fall to the path of knowledge instead of ignorance and abide path of islam,
mohammedghasemi 2 years ago
I am the servant of the Qur'an as long as I have life.
I am the dust on the path of Muhammad, the Chosen one.
If anyone quotes anything except this from my sayings,
I am quit of him and outraged by these words. Rumi--
fawadkabuli 2 years ago 7
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you guys are so twisted!!!when Allah gathers you and the likeness of you befor ethe hell-fire we well see what potential you have or have had...
dudefromlondon 2 years ago
I wish I could talk with rumi
zabiq 2 years ago 4
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This is not Rumi.. This is a poetry by a famous poet in Indo-Pakistan sub continent, named "BULLAH SHAH". He was from "Bukhara" and migrated to Punjab (India at that time, now in Pakistan).
This video is the translation of his famous poem "Bullah kee jana main kon?" which means "Bullah I don't know who am I?"
geminisajid 2 years ago
who knows anything about the music in the background?
mcsmiha1973 2 years ago
Its probably European classic ballade. it has nothing to do with Sufism!
GoRla89 2 years ago
@mcsmiha1973 it is gulumcan..
istanbulmasali 1 year ago
@istanbulmasali thank you very much.
mcsmiha1973 1 year ago
You are CONTROLED FOR THE CONTROLERS PURPOSE IF YOU BELEIVE IN THE bIBLE GOD, aLAH, ETC. tHEY ARE FAIRYTALES LIKE sANTA cLAUSE AND THE EASTER BUNNY, iREALISED THIS 10 YEARS AGO. BELEIVE IN YOURSELF AND EITHER JOIN THE GOOD SIDE OF LIVING OR THE BAD SIDE OR LIKE MOST OF THE PEOPLE ON EARTH A LITTLE OF BOTH FOR WHICH WILL SUIT YOUR PURPOSE BEST EVEN IF IT WILL MEAN DAMNATION IN HELL. if YOU BELEIVE IN THE bIBLE YOU WOULD BE LIVING IN A CAVE SOMEWHERE AWAY FROM ALL OF SOCIETY THAT GOES AGAINST YOU
cybervisionstar 2 years ago
let us have our fairytlales.you keep yours!
loveflowers39 2 years ago
Best answer you could have given! ;D
similisan 2 years ago
@cybervisionstar True!
jozefk80 1 year ago
3:64 Say: "O People of the Book! come to common terms as between us and you: That we worship none but Allah; that we associate no partners with him; that we erect not, from among ourselves, Lords and patrons other than Allah." If then they turn back, say ye: "Bear witness that we (at least) are Muslims (bowing to Allah's Will)
supermankhan 2 years ago
yoU ARE bowing to Muslims will , to control you and use you to do their dirty work, The controlers use the best WMD in the world FEAR of Fairytales like Alah BAba , The Bible God, Jesus. Wake up! Any religon that requests money or your prayers won't be anwerd is FAKE. Beleive in yourself, and choose to be good or bad. But not one or the other for when it suits you. But either way is ok, no God is going to reward you good nor condem you for bad, We do the bidding of the Universe thinking I
cybervisionstar 2 years ago
its just that simple.
I could watch this forever.
Excellent choice of music and narration.
sarahghazi 2 years ago
it's as if they didn't even listen to the words from the video!!
jazzistani 2 years ago
Thanks for putting this video! :D
iamnrhn 2 years ago
He was a Turk only if you can understand this
پارسی گو گرچه تازی خوشتر است — عشق را خود صد زبان دیگر است
from his own mouth
samanmm 2 years ago
hahhaha, okay Afghans might have a point, but he was a Turk? lol, give me a break, all the historic scholars seem to disagree with you, so shut up.
samanmm 2 years ago
Samarkand has been one of the main centres of Persian civilization from its early days.
molana/molawi is persian.dont you ever wonder whay all his poem is farsi and not turkish or afghan.
arashalani 2 years ago
nicely said
shakib2 2 years ago
Founded circa 700 BC by the Persians it was already the capital of the Sogdian satrapy under the Achaemenid dynasty of Persia when Alexander the Great conquered it in 329 BC.
arashalani 2 years ago
Samarkand derives its name from the Old Persian asmara, "stone", "rock", and Sogdian kand, "fort", "town"
arashalani 2 years ago
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arashalani 2 years ago
yes there was.. it was called Samer-Kand(the capital city)
annon91221 2 years ago
Divine
skeiachara 2 years ago
This poem has been written by Bulleh shah Punjabi Poet.
bicconsulting1234 2 years ago
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lol this is rumi's poem he has the afghan blood he was from afghanistan
fawadkabuli 2 years ago
See, since Rumi came first, so the orignal belongs to him. However, Bulleh Shah has a Punjabi version, that you can say is a translation of this poem..
annon91221 2 years ago
This poem has been written by Bulleh Shah
bicconsulting1234 2 years ago
Funny - you guys listen to the poem and then argue about who wrote it or where he/she is from... so you don't really get it..
nzkuk 2 years ago 5
satash8 2 years ago 2
Wow what beauty :"""""")
AiSHaDancingWolfe 2 years ago 2
God, I LOVED this rubayat !!! It just goes along with the way I think, feel and want to live!!!
Thanks for this beautiful video...
Nadin6823 3 years ago 3
I think that all these comments on Rumi's nationality miss the point of his real message in this poem. Rumi tells us clearly where he feels he belongs to..
freesea11 3 years ago 4
yes he is in the heart of Beloved
chochichochichochi 3 years ago 2
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hmb010 3 years ago
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He was Turkish he lived in turkey and he died there. and he was bornd in Afganistan. Nothing to do with Persia
mytarum4 3 years ago
no he was not,
he was born in Iran, back then Khorasan (todays afghanistan) and Iran (and also Tajikistan) were ONE country, and they ALL were (and still ARE) PERSIANS, if you had slightest info you would know this, people speak Parsi in Khorasan and Tajikistan BECAUSE THEY ARE PERSIAN.
he (Rumi) then HAD to live his homeland because of the war and moved to Anatolia, Turkey NEVER EXISTED BACK THEN,
TURKEY IS A HIJACKED LAND BY TURKO-MONGOLS, IT BELONGS TO KURDS, GREEKS, ARMENIANS BUT TURKS.
hadijiz 3 years ago
Khorasan is now also in usbekistan near turkistan (samarkant Buchara for ex.).there evrywhere live turks. and turks are not mongols you persian stupid Iranian shit hadijiz. we are from seldjuck mevlana came to the seldjuck in konya. becouse he was turkish!! Mongols diferent. you son of batman Mullahs. what do the do in iran now they fuck with girls of ten years. HasbiyAllah!!
mytarum4 3 years ago
turke khar lol...love mowlana from afghanistan...he has our blood..
keemia 2 years ago
which is a mix of Persian, Indo-Russian and even Chinese( the mongols) etc...
besides, if thick headed afghans could understand him then he wouldn't have had to move to Baghdad.
annon91221 2 years ago
So what? his poems are in Farsi, no matter where he was born or died, or what you think. Exactly in this poemhere, Rumi is saying that he doesn't belog to any nationality, so I really don't understand why, and why you insist he is Turkish!! I don't care where he was from, but just keep in YOUR mind that his poems are INDEED in FARSI. And... I think he belongs to all human beings
shamsolah 3 years ago 4
This poems are not farsi they are Osmanic. mix of arabic, turkish and farsi in original ."he belongs to all human beings" thats true!! so why all persians say he was persian?? thats not true!! he belogs to the turk. why this stupid people in iran call us turks Donkey? hafis,Shams-i Tabrizi where persian i love them both even like Mevlana! Sufisim lives only in turkey now. where is Bulbul and Gul in your country.Dark Mullahs are the persians now!!
mytarum4 3 years ago
hahaha!!!!
That was the funniest thing I had read in weeks!
Man, get some educations ASP!!!
His poems ARE IN PERSIAN! stop bullshitting!!!
tosan1 3 years ago
There was no Afghanistan back then. What today is called Afghanistan was part of Persia (indeed the major cities of Persia in the medival times were in today Afghanistan and Tajikestan.)
Rumi seeked refuge in Turkey as a result of Mongolian invasion, he lived a few years there before he died.
All of his poems are also in Persian. He read previous Persian poets and philosopher and wrote in persian. It's very absord to say that he was Turkish just because his grave happens to be there!
tosan1 3 years ago
Bigâne megrit mera ezin kûyem Der kûyi şûma hane-i hud micûyem Düşman neyem ez çend ki düşmen ruyem Aslen Türkest eğerçi Hindû gûyem
Mevlana C.R.
mytarum4 3 years ago
this is my favorite poem by rumi .. thank u soo much for posting it!!
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Poetry4LifeStaff 3 years ago
can anyone please tell me what is the name of the song that play in the background and who is the composer
foutor4u 3 years ago
well it is not a song it is a poem by the greatest poet Mawlana Jalaludin Balkhi (Rumi) whow as from Afghanistan and then went to Rome that's why he is Called Rumi all his poems are in Dari (persian) Afghani Language he was a muslim and all his poems should be understood completly to understand Allah
fawadkabuli 3 years ago
He was born in Balkh (Afghanistan)
He is a proud Afghan!
sangar55 3 years ago
then ur a batard that doesnt know where his father from .
ghaly2 3 years ago
Thank you for introducing yourself. Could you clarify your point, so I may understand you?
freesea11 3 years ago
This is what I learned from Rumis poem: What really counts is that we belong to "the soul of the beloved". All other things are of lesser importance. We honour the Lover most by respecting and loving each other. All other things are of lesser importance.
freesea11 3 years ago 2
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The central theme and message in Rumi's poems is the smelting of human into the creator by unconditional love - what results in the reunion of human and divine - leading to the consequence that every being is from divine origin, what mankind has forgotten. Being aware of the entity of creator and creation the man, which understood himself as an separated individual begins to awake feeling that the creator has taken place in the human. So the man becomes to the center of his own wheel of life.
ezsarah 3 years ago
it looks like a lot of people here do not understand rumi's poetry (or perhaps poetry in general).
an essential islamic trait is to be humble and ready to learn from stimuli.
many of us Muslims lack that. As the hadith says: We are "like the foam of the ocean!"
hasahnee 3 years ago
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Rumi is an AFghan!!!
09Jessica09 3 years ago
No, he was persian ! Anyway thats not the point i quess you didn't get his message on this poem anyway !
Bgharar 3 years ago
he belongs to no entity or group. Nor of this world or of the next. True, he blongs to the soule of the beloved " human beings"
mohammedghasemi 3 years ago 2
Rumi was born in Balkh, true. and Balkh is in today Afghanestan, true. However, back then there was no Afghanestan, and Balkh was part of Iran/Persia.
tosan1 3 years ago
rumi was Turkish from persia they live olso there :-)
mytarum4 3 years ago
stop stealing other nations history and culture.
hadijiz 3 years ago
your culture :-) your history :-)
Hafiz is yours yes i love him but not Rumi rumi is ours and not evry one in Persia is a Persian.
mytarum4 3 years ago
"Rumi is Ours"??????
"Hafiz is yours"????
thats the most stupid comment i ever heard some one said,
but if you mean Rumi was from any background except Persian, you are dead wrong, he was born in a Persian family, from a Persian Father and mother, in a Persian city,
he spoke Persian, and wrote in Persian,
when nations like Arabs or Turko-mongols dont have any thing to be proud of or to build up their culture, they steal it from others!
hadijiz 3 years ago 2
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He was Turkish he lived in turkey and he died there. and he was borned in Afganistan.He had Nothing to do with Persia
mytarum4 3 years ago
alot of mombo jumbo.
mashangian333 3 years ago
I AM SHE
YOUniverse2012 3 years ago
and i am He!
mohammedghasemi 3 years ago
Yes We Are They!
lovingrumi 3 years ago
who are we......
kingarthur1985 3 years ago
Please don't find excuses not to follow the religion...a lot of us want to live an easy life and try to justify their false lives by discarding religion.
jzafar28 3 years ago
Who can voice the truth? Who can express the essence of our nature and release the wonderment of our totality? Every breathe we take, every explanation we introduce or definition we exhale is but the very dance of the beloved. The meanings fall and shatter and collapse into their own emptiness. For meanings and labels are destinations that separate us from who we truly are, movement. We are the motion of the dance the beloved has envoked.
massterra 3 years ago
I'm sorry..
maybe my comments or tusan 1's are too strange for general people..
It's really hard for everybody to understand it..
I know it.. at the first time I was confuse and disagree with every perseption like that.. but that's okey.. it's normal condition that every people has diffrent thinking about something in this life..
But 1 thing that for me this is important.. I still believe in god.. Allah is my lord..
Sorry my english isn't good enough.. I'm from indonesia..
I love ur video^^
ad3n4n 3 years ago
I agree with tosan 1's comments..
ad3n4n 3 years ago
Ironically, people who name god (be it Allah, Lord, Yahveh, AhuraMazda,...) do not believe in a "true" god as their god is created by their own imagination. It is a paradox. god is supposed to create you, not you to create god.
Hence, traditions like Budhasim which do not objectify the truth and don't give any identity to the truth, are much closer to the truth than stratified religions which elaborate on god. food for thought!
tosan1 3 years ago
bebin beshin ro kiram..allah allah jehova mehova o azin kosho shera vase nanat kon..
to ke engdhar zer mizani bajad bedoni ke..sokhan bedone adab yahni sefr hanidkappe badbakht taze gohe rumiam mikhore... fuck u and ure buddism crap.. zardtoshti and rumi is all we need u fucker...dont preech about persian culture our rumi with ure mixed japanse chinese crap..and dont insult people cause this is the reaction
BenjiPars 3 years ago
touchie,touchie,touchie!!!!!
loveflowers39 3 years ago
Just because you have a name for God, for instance Allah, which literally means The One God, doesn't mean that you created God. Some of us believe in revelation and a Creator that wants to be known. God has given us the gift of language so we use it, and what more beautiful a word then the One, Allah.
mogulscrotch 3 years ago
Allah was a pagan god (an idol man-made god) in pre-Islamic Arabia (Arab-e Jaheliat).
I always feel sorry for Iranians who bend over an Arabic idol! Ignorance is a bad dard!
tosan1 3 years ago
You should save your pitty for yourself, looking at history selectively will only leave you ignorant. Allah, literally meaning "the one God" was the God of Abraham. During the time of ignornce the Arabs made an idol representing Him. Though I assure you "The one God" was a concept that goes further back than the time of ignorance, a time which you still seem to be living in.
mogulscrotch 3 years ago