another scenario concerning around 7:05: if instead of taking his sword off to strike, he winds arms crossed, dropping his point down counter-clockwise (from his view). Then, if you were to slice his blade to the side, he would end up with the advantage by threatening you with the point on the inside
Getting the opponent to commit real force is a problem with winding, and is one of those reasons why I feel many people don't get it right. I find most people too cautious in freeplay, but you can still force them to cut at your hanging if you push in aggressively.
couldn't agree more ! still, if they don't commit enough force then they are in danger of being simply overpowered in the bind, which is fun to demonstrate ;) I think the key with winden is practise and drilling - getting the roll-over from long to short edge facilitates the blade capture, and with practise it can be quite fast. But on reading more meyer i think you may be right re 16th C school fencing. Do you have any insights on blows like the clashing cut and blind cut?
very interesting - came to this exact movement in practise with a messer the other day. parry in hanging, turn hand to look-into-land/vom tag indes i feel the contact. and yes - very effective.
btw - not sure i agree about the interpretation, but good work. :) My two cents is that winding in the earlier texts at least is about CAPTURING the opponents blade - difficult to do against a wary opponent in freeplay, but possible and highly effective against a committed opponent in actual combat.
another scenario concerning around 7:05: if instead of taking his sword off to strike, he winds arms crossed, dropping his point down counter-clockwise (from his view). Then, if you were to slice his blade to the side, he would end up with the advantage by threatening you with the point on the inside
bws462 2 months ago
Very nicely done! Gotta love that Renaissance swordplay.
ArmeAntica 1 year ago
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johnmeadowcourt 2 years ago
Getting the opponent to commit real force is a problem with winding, and is one of those reasons why I feel many people don't get it right. I find most people too cautious in freeplay, but you can still force them to cut at your hanging if you push in aggressively.
MugginsToadwort 2 years ago
couldn't agree more ! still, if they don't commit enough force then they are in danger of being simply overpowered in the bind, which is fun to demonstrate ;) I think the key with winden is practise and drilling - getting the roll-over from long to short edge facilitates the blade capture, and with practise it can be quite fast. But on reading more meyer i think you may be right re 16th C school fencing. Do you have any insights on blows like the clashing cut and blind cut?
MarkHolgate 2 years ago
very interesting - came to this exact movement in practise with a messer the other day. parry in hanging, turn hand to look-into-land/vom tag indes i feel the contact. and yes - very effective.
btw - not sure i agree about the interpretation, but good work. :) My two cents is that winding in the earlier texts at least is about CAPTURING the opponents blade - difficult to do against a wary opponent in freeplay, but possible and highly effective against a committed opponent in actual combat.
MarkHolgate 2 years ago