State of the Unions Pt.2

[ajd1211]

Plus, I'm glad I'm in a union. I've had non-union jobs before and I'd rather have a union job as opposed to a non-union job.

[ajd1211]

I'm a union member, and I'm also a Republican. Unions aren't married to the Democratic party, and aside from labor issues, there is nothing I agree with Democrats on. I believe the ideal candidate is anti-tax, pro-union, and supports fair trade. A strong labor movement ='s a strong middle class.

[hobo59]

Simply said, the state of the union is FUCKED UP. Thank you Baloney Frank and the rest of the Demon Crap party !

[JixMa]

5*****

[pulpBleacher]

I do not think most people understand the current situation either economically or politically. The rights and power of unions across North America are being usurped for specific reasons and more importantly there is an enormous discrepantcy in terms of monetary value of goods and services and assets. Until governmental deficit spending policies are curtailed, central banking policies are altered in such a way as to promote a stable currency , hence the slippage of power from unions...very sad

[sirellyn]

Depends which unions you are talking about of course. The government supported unions are really really bad right now. I've seen far more examples of unions forcing companies to keep extremely lazy or delinquent workers than I have seen workers unfairly forced out by business.

Especially lately.

[pulpBleacher]

I do not wish to debate the internal protocol on which unions operate but rather the essence of unionised labour organizations. There needs to be a wage equlibrium but not by way of economic interventionism and protectionism. Unions are an asset to labour and business alike as they facilitate the required negotiation on principal of intelligent economics. But there can be an argument made for that as well, as many non-union workers thrive as being individual negotiators.

[sirellyn]

Labor unions are fine as long as neither the union nor the company gets any government support or subsidization.

If a company is greedy it would rather satisfy a union of employees than go out of business. If it is not and the union asks too much the entire company can dissolve.

This risk is eliminated if its either is subsidized or restrained with laws. Careless and unproductive behavior occurs.

You may not like it but you should always have some worry about your job if you under perform.

[911truthncDotOrg]

National Democratic Party is a corporation who selects which candidates will run and be allowed in the debates. Our choices are controlled. That's why NO independent candidate will EVER has a voice.

Paul Jay get your arse out of the sand!

The elite control the election process. Obama was there man. Probably profiled to be the one best able to sell the "Great America Rip-Off" to the America people.

[sanacore4643]

This author is wrong and your experience gsuitter

come precisely from the conservatism of American unions. American trade union movements were at their strongest in the 1870's and 1880's lasting until around 1910 when they were anarchist lead with a no apology revolutionary message. Then later in the 1930's when socialist and communist lead both Roosevelts TR and FDR made concessions to calm a social force that without mainstream concessions threatened

revolution. The elites need to be scared !

[kmg501]

Well I'm glad to see that at least some people are honest enough to admit that FDR was part socialist and part communist. Maybe someone will eventually admit that FDR deliberately pushed the Japanese into attacking Pearl Harbor, then we would be making some real progress.

[sanacore4643]

@kmg501

NO that is NOT what I said.

I said that under popular pressure FDR had to act.

Furthermore yes he did not apologise for regulating and reigning in Wall Street in the way Obama has not done. That is the purpose of government in a democracy. Wall Street is NOT elected by the people the President is.

Business must be subject to democratic control with no pandering. Sadly Obama panders to everyone that is everyone other than the people to whom he makes lame excuses.

[blackiron60]

Exactly, if governments are not afraid of their people that's when government and elite interests feel that they can abuse the people at will. Right now the elite is not afraid of the American people because they know that so many of them have bought into their propaganda about the "American Dream". The people have to organize and fight back.

[83coffees]

@blackiron60 These guys were right in what they said about Euro unions. In France they tried to take a single stat holiday away and EVERYONE took to the streets to protest and the result was the holiday was returned. The problem is that in North Am. people are too scared to lose their job to risk strike action... The worse the economy gets the more power unions will lose... I agree with pitch-forks; take down the Fed.

[gsuitter]

After working in two union shops I'll never do it again, if at all possible. As I strove to exceed in my position the union always tried to hold me back to maintain the status quo. All efforts must be for the good of the Union. Individual achievement and hard work were discouraged so as "not to make everyone else look bad". Sorry but I can't work in that type of environment.

[flyhead2]

It's far too late for unions, it's time for the pitchforks to come out.