Everybody is quick to judge somebody like Johnny Sack until they're in the seat he is in. Even the hardest gangsters (Tony, Phil) would submit to an allocution if they were faced with trial (they would have the book thrown at them). Yeah yeah I know Phil's character did 20 years, but he wasn't faced with the prospect of dying in prison.
How touching. These people are all rats. Which is probably why they like to use the word so much for other people.
If you murder someone, you're a "made man", and get high regard from your associates for being an efficient killer. But if you testify in court against such a cold-blooded murderer, you're a "rat". Anyone who thinks the mafia is romantic and honorable has rocks in their head...
no he didnt flip but he admited to beeing in the mafia so therefor broke the code of omerta(code of silents) and by breaking it he was outcasted! and maybe a candidate to get wacked!!!
see how it goes!! in the end the government gets your money while still putting you in jail so that their friends can also make money, prison lobby!! what a funny world :)
You would lose everything, as you broke the law and let's be honest here, probably fucked a lot of people badly, in order to gain that material wealth. The money goes to the government from what I understand, and I don't need to ask myself that because I sort of assumed it was common sense.
Which branch of government it goes to is debatable, I guess, but clearly neither he nor his family have any rights to that property.
well first of, you should know that anyone who makes millions and billions had to fuck somebody up, that's just a fact you can choose to ignore it but that's how things work in this world.
now, yes he was a criminal no doubt about that, but according to your logic the people that got robbed by these mobsters, got actually robbed twice!! the first time by the mob and second by the people who took the money from the mobsters.
Believe that the world is entirely populated by assholes if you want, but you're making a pretty silly generalization. You're saying every rich individual is some kind of criminal. That's pretty sad. Most are just douchey. Being an asshole alienates you from opportunities.
You can't be robbed twice. That doesn't follow any logic whatsoever. Being robbed is the event of someone taking your property. After that point, it cannot be taken again. It's already out of your hands.
am i talking to a millionaire??? i think that the asshole is you since you started using profanity then you will get that back, hence that's how the universe works.
you are ignorant and that being said i need to stop talking to you, go back to your video games and dreams, i work hard and try to make it in a controlled world. will not stop trying but what is a fact is a fact...
take care Mr thinking will become 1% one day, make me laugh i swear
I don't know why you're offended by profanity. They're just words. I didn't even accuse you of being anything. If you want me to, I can get all up on that. You're a retard, and you type like a child. I'm not rich at all. I'm first a first generation Canadian. My parents and I work.
I never said I was or wished to become the "1%", and your blind devotion to whiny baby labels is pathetic. Also, who shits on people for having dreams? Show some discipline and dignity, you twat.
@sliver321123 He's right tho. Many of the super rich in this country are crooked as hell. Look at all the major corporations that have put so many small businesses out of work. Look at all the banks with their interest rates through the roofs. Those people are way bigger crooks than the "mafia" ever could be. The United States Government is the biggest mob there is.
Putting small businesses out of work isn't being evil or a crook, it's playing the game. That's the point of capitalism. You make money, and the best way to secure the ability to make money is to eliminate the competition. The ridiculous thing are the supporters of capitalism that also support bailouts. That doesn't even make sense.
I agree that the banks have ridiculous rates, but a significant part of that problem is also the people who use those banks.
@sliver321123 It is evil and crooked when its done through illegal means. As far as the bailouts go, if you or I walked into a bank and asked for bailout, we'd be thrown out on our ass. But a fortune 500 company goes belly up and the governemnt just writes them a check. And they wonder why our economy is so fucked up. The U.S. dollar isn't worth shit now. And what about these insurance companies and big medicine? You're telling me they aren't all fucking crooks?
Take it easy there, man. Big Pharma is monumentally fucked up, and insurance companies are based on bullshit,
The bailout thing is exactly what I'm saying. It's silly to think that capitalists would want/support/allow government intervention in the economic stability of a private business. Capitalism is about companies being responsible for themselves, and everyone being able to do whatever, not get government support. That's a completely socialist practice.
@sliver321123 I agree with you there. Just going back to my original point, there are much bigger crooks out there than mafia gangsters. I have a bigger problem with the federal government than anything else. They can literally throw you off your land for no reason, and call you a "terrorist" and throw you in jail. The patriot act was a joke and a bullshit excuse for them to have the right invade our privacy for whatever they want to do.
Dude. The mafia MURDERS PEOPLE. They beat and steal and kill people on a whim, they bribe and traffic and launder. They are literally committing every crime imaginable. There are literally no bigger crooks than mafiosos.
I'm predicting that you might say that the government does all of those things as well, but even if you did, it wouldn't change the facts about the mafia. The government can't be worse. It's like comparing some douchebag co-worker to Ed Gein.
@sliver321123 You're right buddy. I guess I'm the nieve one. It's not as if our government doesn't lead thousands of people to their deaths every year or anything. Not to mention extorting about a million times more money from its own citizens than the mafia ever could. But yea you're right.
You're making it harder to take you seriously when you can't spell simple words, but I won't harp on you for that. Still, you're ignoring what I said, and your claim that the government is as bad as the mafia is both ridiculous and unfounded, and does not disprove anything I've said about the mafia.
@sliver321123 Why do people on youtube always digress from the conversation with the grammar police? I have not ignored anything you said. You made your point and I made mine. I have not disagreed with anything you've said about the mafia. My only point is there are much larger entities in this country than the mafia that do much worse shit to more citizens on a much larger scale. I don't even see how you can dispute this.
I was joking about the spellling thing, people make mistakes and its not a big deal.
What I'm saying is that you're talking about the government in a way that justifies the mafia, and that doesn't stand. The government is bureaucratic and slow and full of idiots, they fuck things up and people get screwed and they send people to war, but the mafia just fucks people and makes money. One does (some) good, the other is inherently shit.
@Antrizzle2009 Whatever, nobody in the government shoots your kneecaps out when you get in their way. How the hell are they 'bigger crooks'? The reason those small businesses failed is because the general population stopped using them when someone else offered a better or cheaper service.
@otherjr Boy are you naive. We went and INVADED another country, under the pretense of "bringing freedom" (even though they didn't ask us to) JUST to secure some oil contracts. To accomplish this, we had to bomb the shit outta them, then send ground troops over there who engaged CITIZENS in combat for nearly a decade. Our government wasted BILLIONS on that bullshit, and for what? Sounds like theft to me.
@creamyapanties I agree. Same thing with Iran. Our Government is going to tell people how to live and if not we will put sanctions on your country and starve your people to death. After that we bomb them. It's a joke.
@Antrizzle2009 Interest rates are near rock bottom and that is precisely what is destroying our economy. It isn't banks fault, it's the federal reserve's. There's also nothing wrong with out competing small businesses.
@sliver321123 not sure how old you are, and i wasn't even gonna answer you anymore just because there would be no debate here due to the fact that you are oblivious and ignorant. please look up I.D magazine of this week's edition and do some readings and research instead of playing video games before answering back.
@Gnocchist Yeah but as that guy said "at least he didn't flip". Flipping is when you give information about your fellow gang members to the police so they can be prosecuted. Like Pussy did and Adriana. Johnny didn't do that.
@Gnocchist That allocution is bullshit. This isn't the 1800s or the 1930s, 40s or 50s... Everyone knows that the mafia exists. Someone admitting what everyone in the room and in the world already knows isn't a big deal. There is nothing wrong with a mobster taking a plea bargain and trying to shave years of his sentence.
@Gnocchist First, "a lot" is two words. Second, Johnny Sack flipping does not help the government try other mobsters, because the government can't use the admissions of one person against another. In other words, if any other mobster that ever spoke with johnny goes on trail, the government canNOT use this allocution against them. The government would have to prove they were conspiring to commit the same crime, and charge them both. Not likely with Johnny in prison . He did not flip.
I am sick of titles in youtube that are misleading - you should be able to see the perecentage of people who like before you click into the scene.....
Bullshit! Tony wouldn't have just allocated to his own crimes, he would have ratted on everybody he could as fast as he could. He was so weak he need a shrink to hold his hand. In real life I don't see how he doesn't get whacked for that, easy.
Tony never did anything that didn't benefit him. His selfishness was a running theme of the show. There's no way he spends the rest of his life in prison when he can just screw other people to get out. He was doing that on the outside as it was
@Yobachi2007 yes tonys selfishness was a running theme of the show but so was his code of honor. tonys weakness wasnt in his inability to be a true and effective gangster but rather his feelings of worthlessness brought on by his borderline mother and his issues with panic attacks. Hes the alpha male, his selfishness has caused him to violently murder many close people to protect him from persecution from the law. Hes the boss, who above him could he even rat on?
LOL, What are you talking about? Ratting is not 1 directional. He could rat on EVERYBODY, he knew everything. He talked a good game of honor just like every1 of them do, & the vast majority of them rat when facing serious time.
He had no honor. Just 2 examples: he promoted his nephew undeserving for his own gain. He killed a made guy who violated no rules (which is against the rules), just cause he felt like it.
Clearly you're in love with this guy, but you're hero is no hero at all
@iChex You kidding? Tony would have flipped in a heartbeat.. thats the whole point of his character. He is the biggest hypocrite on the show, throughout the whole series man... how many times did he break the code for his own gains?
@T800System ..wrong, flipping is when someone colaborates with the feds ..he didn`t reveal anything
..and if you wanna know, in the real world, even the boss Joseph Bonnano talked on `60 minutes` and talked about The Commission and what not,so he has admitted the existence of it too.. Once again :that`s not flipping!
Funny how alot of people consider the FBI and or CIA as a higher moral authority. When evidence have pointed to facts of them only bing low level goons of the Govt. Mafia.
@PrismaMD I agree. As a matter of fact, that was my guess about how the series might end - with Tony being arrested and "flipping" to testify against the Lupertazzis. That would have nailed the point that Chase was trying to make about Tony, especially in the last few seasons; that he was a weak hypocrite and only looking out for himself, no matter how much he claimed to value the old school mafia rules. It would have also lined up nicely with 'Goodfellas,' one of Chase's main inspirations.
@UnbreakableUnion1993 At the time that the rules were drawn up, no they didn't. Also, admitting membership even today creates problems for the mafia. With RICO if a members admits to the existence of the Mafia, FBI surveillance tapes can link anyone in his presence with membership thus creating a profile of Mafia hierarchy that otherwise might be difficult to prove.
Those guys should be publicly executed, no trial nothing, they ussualy say that are soldiers and they took orders, the shoud be on trial on military court, then theyll see what justice means.
@Smale45OG Good call- in all western countries, not just the USA, the only difference between organized crime and government is the massive corruption and theft of elected officials is legalized.
The mafia survives on its secrecy, to admit membership is to remove that veil of secrecy. Rules are there for a reason, John broke the rules. If he was on the streets he'd get a wooden overcoat for that!
He didn't in theory flip. But as you can tell by the anger of the other family members, and if you learn the general rule of the Mafia. You don't ever admit the existence of the family, he did exactly that, admitting he was even in or tied to the family. Hence their resentment towards him at the end.
no he didnt flip but he admited to beeing in the mafia so therefor broke the code of omerta(code of silents) and by breaking it he was outcasted! and maybe a candidate to get wacked!!!
FUCKING NAUSEATING!! it could have been worse he could have flipped! ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?YOU DONT EVER ADMIT THE EXISTENCE OF THIS THING EVER!! philly was a true mafioso OMERTA MEANS YOU KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT EVEN IF THAT MEAN LIFE IN PRISON OR DEATH YOU DONT OPEN YOUR MOUTH!
no he didnt flip but he admited to beeing in the mafia so therefor broke the code of omerta(code of silents) and by breaking it he was outcasted! and maybe a candidate to get wacked!!!
You're all nuts. The term "to flip" according to the Mafia means to start taking it in the ass. To be homosexual. So now, his name being Johnny Sack will make more sense when he's in prison.
I think most of you all need to find out what Omerta means before saying he did or didnt do shit. B/c even if you never testify to bring others down,.The point of you speaking up period is a breaking of this code of Omerta Oath. And I mean no disrespect but non italians and sicilians do not have a fathomable clue of what certain mafiosa codes means. Unless you either lived that life or is close to someone who is or has lived it.
lol u never admit the existence of this thing? Phil is such a retarded shit fuck what u dont think the feds have known for oh i dont know fuckin decades?
Yes he flipped and no he didn't, the allocution merely confirmed he was affiliated with LCN but the nature of the RICO statutes is joint responsibility; in theory his words could have had impact on many others around him, his sworn testimony in which he admits being a gangster would have implicated a lot of other people as gangsters.
RICO is very draconian, you can spend the rest of your life in prison for pretty much just hanging out with gangsters.
Good scene. For one thing, it shows the degredation of the mafia over the last few decades. The top guy in a New York family is only worth five million, which in that city/state is about 2.5 million.
Johnny's "weakness" was that his mafia mafia family was never important than his real family, a clear violation of La Cosa Nostra.
This event also helps set off Phil. After this, Phil begins to lose faith in everything he ever believed in.
@jksonny It actually shows that he has a bigger, loving, caring heart for his wife and children. He would rather be branded, than let them suffer losing everything and starting again. Underneath all his darkness and misdeads, he was probaly the only stand-up husband and father on the show. Doesn't excuse him for his lifestyle and choices and actions, but maybe he was the 'lesser of two evils'. You know chase is showing us most of these guys, deep down, think the life and rules are...
@jksonny total BS. in the grand scheme of life anyway. Look at Chrissy and his true love for Adrianna. Whereas Tony S. would of just ratted to save his own arse and live another day, purely for materialistic means. Not soulful.
@ViceCityVacation Good points about Johnny but I don't think Chris had "true love" for anyone, including Adrianna. You don't sell out your true love and have her killed to protect your own lifestyle.
@ePirate7 Yes, it's the dish it out but can't take it mentality, like we should all be grateful for the good they do to the community. This show is great for demonstrating how sociopaths and psychopaths really operate with a criminal mindset.
In order for you to flip, you have to give information that implicates other people. So unless you count telling on YOURSELF as flipping, he didn't flip. Saying "yeah i'm in the mafia" isn't flipping. And he didn't betray any family, because wiseguys are much smarter than to operate thinking the feds dont know they exist. The game is essentially "you know what we're doing. the shit part of your job is proving it. catch us if you can."
Damn, they cut my favorite part at the very end of the video when the gardner comes up to Tony and Sil to ask them if he still has to cut John's lawn "now that he's guilty". Sil's facial expression and reaction was priceless.
Much as I despised Phil throughout his time on The Sopranos he was right here, Sacriomani should have taken his medicine and taken the 20 year sentence mooted by the federal prosecutor, Phil and other members of that family were prepared to keep tight-lipped for 20 years why not John?
The allocution is the flipping (which is why John didn't want to do it) because it required him to prove FEDS case by giving coorperating information IN COURT against himself and his friends via pleading Guilty to the Criminal charge that he and they were criminals as members of a criminal organization, now that's testifying and flipping whether it leads to others being indicted or not. Plus, Phil corrected Albie right away, "You never ever admit to the existence of this thing".
It's got to suck, watching all the money you worked hard to scam everyone out from and take all that risk making it, killing all those people....and then uncle Sam comes and scoops it up and takes away your freedom for a very long time, if not life.
The government estimates Johnny Sacks net worth to be $5 Million, it takes $4.1 million from him, and he gets to keep his house + Jenny's $100 grand IRA?
his house appeared to be worth more than $900, 000 in the series.
He protected his family, he wanted his wife to have some kind or rood over her head and a pension. In his mind he thinks: hey, I'll be out in 15 years and I'll work over gain and rebuild something.
Yes yes he DID NOT flip. Flip would be LITERALLY FLIP meaning he gave up names or 'worked' for the Feds. Too all you said he DID not flip thumbs up! But in a way he still betrayed the Mafia by admitting it existed in the first place.
To everyone complaining about the video title saying he didnt flip, He admitted to being in the mafia and acknowledging its existence - didn't testify but still betrayed his family.
@Gnocchist U obvioulsy know NOTHING about LCN then. What Johny Sac did was " Allocute" meaning he admitted the existence of the mafia, he DID NOT FLIP. Its all right here in the video dummy
@jvanley6911 In allocution, you not only admit to the existence of something, you admit to a crime, which is why he went to jail. So in John's case, he admitted that not just he, but even his friends were all engaged in a criminal organization, a crime, thus flipping, ratting, snitching,betrayal, the whole nine. Sure, naming names would have made it worse, but admitting that you are a criminal in a crimal organization composed of your friends is still flipping. Ask Phil, Tony, Silvio, etc.
@Gnocchist but he didn't flip. flipping means betraying your friends and testifying against them in court. you used the wrong term, that's all. he allocuted to the existence of the mafia. very big difference.
@Gnocchist I wouldnt say it was a betrayal. I think its perfectly understandable and those who speak against it I would have to say arent in the same position.
FUCKING NAUSEATING!! it could have been worse he could have flipped! ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?YOU DONT EVER ADMIT THE EXISTENCE OF THIS THING EVER!! philly was a true mafioso OMERTA MEANS YOU KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT EVEN IF THAT MEAN LIFE IN PRISON OR DEATH YOU DONT OPEN YOUR MOUTH!
no he didnt flip but he admited to beeing in the mafia so therefor broke the code of omerta(code of silents) and by breaking it he was outcasted! and maybe a candidate to get wacked!!!
I always respected Johnny Sack the most of all the "Sopranos"-he truly loved his wife and family-when you think about it-the two biggest pieces of shit-Tony S. and Paulie survived. Hopefully, Tony really did buy the farm in the Ice Cream Shop.
i don't think you understand what flipping is, if John had flipped he would have given information to the government leading to the indictment of other mobsters. In fact, at the end of this video Albie clearly says that John DIDN'T flip. did you even watch this video before uploading it?
@jjjplaneification, Junior stood trial
jackster79ohk 1 week ago
Everybody is quick to judge somebody like Johnny Sack until they're in the seat he is in. Even the hardest gangsters (Tony, Phil) would submit to an allocution if they were faced with trial (they would have the book thrown at them). Yeah yeah I know Phil's character did 20 years, but he wasn't faced with the prospect of dying in prison.
jjjetplaneification 1 week ago
@jjjetplaneification
phil would of took death in a cell phil was the best of this whole show
iChex 1 week ago
anyone else would've ratted also
cbarrett34 1 week ago
johnny sack was an admirable guy
cbarrett34 1 week ago
sack didnt keep his word = RATTTTT
justaddit 3 weeks ago
How touching. These people are all rats. Which is probably why they like to use the word so much for other people.
If you murder someone, you're a "made man", and get high regard from your associates for being an efficient killer. But if you testify in court against such a cold-blooded murderer, you're a "rat". Anyone who thinks the mafia is romantic and honorable has rocks in their head...
MaskedMarvyl 3 weeks ago
@MaskedMarvyl
but they gave their word so they cant rat
justaddit 3 weeks ago
Is there a scene in which Johhny doesn't smoke?
CaptainStefanLovric 4 weeks ago
Which episode is this?
megaelectric1 4 weeks ago
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no he didnt flip but he admited to beeing in the mafia so therefor broke the code of omerta(code of silents) and by breaking it he was outcasted! and maybe a candidate to get wacked!!!
serveandcollectable 1 month ago
and carmine was happy he never won the war to become boss
iChex 1 month ago
fidelity and vanguard?
johnny never banked
iChex 1 month ago
he didnt flip
rub3nski 1 month ago
@Gnocchist No you dumbass, the title says "Johnny Sack Flips"!
goodfella949 1 month ago
Lmfao, Silvio at the end. Hilarious.
scarface1999 1 month ago
Great video what a fuckin disgrace stand like a fuckin man
MegaRedrider11 1 month ago
see how it goes!! in the end the government gets your money while still putting you in jail so that their friends can also make money, prison lobby!! what a funny world :)
farago10 1 month ago
@farago10
Totally ignore that the guy was a criminal, right.
sliver321123 1 month ago
@sliver321123
all i'm saying is that the end result is that you would loose evrything.
that's what i'm saying. and yes it is funny because i'm wondering where all the money seized from criminals go???? did you ever ask yourself that?
farago10 1 month ago
@farago10
You would lose everything, as you broke the law and let's be honest here, probably fucked a lot of people badly, in order to gain that material wealth. The money goes to the government from what I understand, and I don't need to ask myself that because I sort of assumed it was common sense.
Which branch of government it goes to is debatable, I guess, but clearly neither he nor his family have any rights to that property.
sliver321123 1 month ago
@sliver321123
well first of, you should know that anyone who makes millions and billions had to fuck somebody up, that's just a fact you can choose to ignore it but that's how things work in this world.
now, yes he was a criminal no doubt about that, but according to your logic the people that got robbed by these mobsters, got actually robbed twice!! the first time by the mob and second by the people who took the money from the mobsters.
farago10 1 month ago
@farago10
Believe that the world is entirely populated by assholes if you want, but you're making a pretty silly generalization. You're saying every rich individual is some kind of criminal. That's pretty sad. Most are just douchey. Being an asshole alienates you from opportunities.
You can't be robbed twice. That doesn't follow any logic whatsoever. Being robbed is the event of someone taking your property. After that point, it cannot be taken again. It's already out of your hands.
sliver321123 1 month ago
@sliver321123
am i talking to a millionaire??? i think that the asshole is you since you started using profanity then you will get that back, hence that's how the universe works.
you are ignorant and that being said i need to stop talking to you, go back to your video games and dreams, i work hard and try to make it in a controlled world. will not stop trying but what is a fact is a fact...
take care Mr thinking will become 1% one day, make me laugh i swear
farago10 1 month ago
@farago10
I don't know why you're offended by profanity. They're just words. I didn't even accuse you of being anything. If you want me to, I can get all up on that. You're a retard, and you type like a child. I'm not rich at all. I'm first a first generation Canadian. My parents and I work.
I never said I was or wished to become the "1%", and your blind devotion to whiny baby labels is pathetic. Also, who shits on people for having dreams? Show some discipline and dignity, you twat.
sliver321123 1 month ago
@sliver321123 He's right tho. Many of the super rich in this country are crooked as hell. Look at all the major corporations that have put so many small businesses out of work. Look at all the banks with their interest rates through the roofs. Those people are way bigger crooks than the "mafia" ever could be. The United States Government is the biggest mob there is.
Antrizzle2009 1 month ago 11
@Antrizzle2009
Putting small businesses out of work isn't being evil or a crook, it's playing the game. That's the point of capitalism. You make money, and the best way to secure the ability to make money is to eliminate the competition. The ridiculous thing are the supporters of capitalism that also support bailouts. That doesn't even make sense.
I agree that the banks have ridiculous rates, but a significant part of that problem is also the people who use those banks.
sliver321123 3 weeks ago
@sliver321123 It is evil and crooked when its done through illegal means. As far as the bailouts go, if you or I walked into a bank and asked for bailout, we'd be thrown out on our ass. But a fortune 500 company goes belly up and the governemnt just writes them a check. And they wonder why our economy is so fucked up. The U.S. dollar isn't worth shit now. And what about these insurance companies and big medicine? You're telling me they aren't all fucking crooks?
Antrizzle2009 3 weeks ago
@Antrizzle2009
Take it easy there, man. Big Pharma is monumentally fucked up, and insurance companies are based on bullshit,
The bailout thing is exactly what I'm saying. It's silly to think that capitalists would want/support/allow government intervention in the economic stability of a private business. Capitalism is about companies being responsible for themselves, and everyone being able to do whatever, not get government support. That's a completely socialist practice.
sliver321123 3 weeks ago
@sliver321123 I agree with you there. Just going back to my original point, there are much bigger crooks out there than mafia gangsters. I have a bigger problem with the federal government than anything else. They can literally throw you off your land for no reason, and call you a "terrorist" and throw you in jail. The patriot act was a joke and a bullshit excuse for them to have the right invade our privacy for whatever they want to do.
Antrizzle2009 3 weeks ago
@Antrizzle2009
Dude. The mafia MURDERS PEOPLE. They beat and steal and kill people on a whim, they bribe and traffic and launder. They are literally committing every crime imaginable. There are literally no bigger crooks than mafiosos.
I'm predicting that you might say that the government does all of those things as well, but even if you did, it wouldn't change the facts about the mafia. The government can't be worse. It's like comparing some douchebag co-worker to Ed Gein.
sliver321123 3 weeks ago
@sliver321123 You're right buddy. I guess I'm the nieve one. It's not as if our government doesn't lead thousands of people to their deaths every year or anything. Not to mention extorting about a million times more money from its own citizens than the mafia ever could. But yea you're right.
Antrizzle2009 3 weeks ago
@Antrizzle2009
You're making it harder to take you seriously when you can't spell simple words, but I won't harp on you for that. Still, you're ignoring what I said, and your claim that the government is as bad as the mafia is both ridiculous and unfounded, and does not disprove anything I've said about the mafia.
sliver321123 3 weeks ago
@sliver321123 Why do people on youtube always digress from the conversation with the grammar police? I have not ignored anything you said. You made your point and I made mine. I have not disagreed with anything you've said about the mafia. My only point is there are much larger entities in this country than the mafia that do much worse shit to more citizens on a much larger scale. I don't even see how you can dispute this.
Antrizzle2009 3 weeks ago
@Antrizzle2009
I was joking about the spellling thing, people make mistakes and its not a big deal.
What I'm saying is that you're talking about the government in a way that justifies the mafia, and that doesn't stand. The government is bureaucratic and slow and full of idiots, they fuck things up and people get screwed and they send people to war, but the mafia just fucks people and makes money. One does (some) good, the other is inherently shit.
sliver321123 3 weeks ago
@Antrizzle2009 Whatever, nobody in the government shoots your kneecaps out when you get in their way. How the hell are they 'bigger crooks'? The reason those small businesses failed is because the general population stopped using them when someone else offered a better or cheaper service.
otherjr 3 weeks ago
@otherjr Boy are you naive. We went and INVADED another country, under the pretense of "bringing freedom" (even though they didn't ask us to) JUST to secure some oil contracts. To accomplish this, we had to bomb the shit outta them, then send ground troops over there who engaged CITIZENS in combat for nearly a decade. Our government wasted BILLIONS on that bullshit, and for what? Sounds like theft to me.
creamyapanties 2 weeks ago
@creamyapanties I agree. Same thing with Iran. Our Government is going to tell people how to live and if not we will put sanctions on your country and starve your people to death. After that we bomb them. It's a joke.
theenforcer1977 2 weeks ago
@Antrizzle2009 Interest rates are near rock bottom and that is precisely what is destroying our economy. It isn't banks fault, it's the federal reserve's. There's also nothing wrong with out competing small businesses.
mrrobotica 1 week ago
@sliver321123 not sure how old you are, and i wasn't even gonna answer you anymore just because there would be no debate here due to the fact that you are oblivious and ignorant. please look up I.D magazine of this week's edition and do some readings and research instead of playing video games before answering back.
i dreamed before you did just you know.
good luck
farago10 3 weeks ago
@farago10
Good work. You ignored everything I said, and that means you win. You're still a childish douche.
sliver321123 3 weeks ago
Johnny Sac never flipped... title's 100% wrong
DayDahDoo 1 month ago
HE SHOULD OF STOOD TRAIL LIKE A MAN
justaddit 1 month ago
JOHNNY SACK THE RATTTTTTT
justaddit 1 month ago
He admitted to being in the mafia,
if any other mobster that ever spoke with johnny goes on trail, the government can use this allocution against them.
so no i didn't get it wrong, him doing that helps the government ALOT.
Gnocchist 1 month ago 7
@Gnocchist Yeah but as that guy said "at least he didn't flip". Flipping is when you give information about your fellow gang members to the police so they can be prosecuted. Like Pussy did and Adriana. Johnny didn't do that.
redplague 1 month ago 8
@Gnocchist he didn't "flip" though
ntsshap4 1 month ago
@Gnocchist That allocution is bullshit. This isn't the 1800s or the 1930s, 40s or 50s... Everyone knows that the mafia exists. Someone admitting what everyone in the room and in the world already knows isn't a big deal. There is nothing wrong with a mobster taking a plea bargain and trying to shave years of his sentence.
BronzeBullBalls 1 month ago
@Gnocchist
Exactly,
Due to the RICO act, just admitting you're in the mafia can be as damaging to other mobsters as out right turning government witness.
BackhandURmother 1 month ago
@Gnocchist You are correct. Even if a member of the mafia take's a plea deal they are not supposed to admit there is a mafia.
theenforcer1977 2 weeks ago
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@Gnocchist First, "a lot" is two words. Second, Johnny Sack flipping does not help the government try other mobsters, because the government can't use the admissions of one person against another. In other words, if any other mobster that ever spoke with johnny goes on trail, the government canNOT use this allocution against them. The government would have to prove they were conspiring to commit the same crime, and charge them both. Not likely with Johnny in prison . He did not flip.
murtaent 2 weeks ago
@Gnocchist He didn't flip.. You got it wrong son, at least be big enough to admit it.
redplague 1 month ago
I am sick of titles in youtube that are misleading - you should be able to see the perecentage of people who like before you click into the scene.....
fluffycheep 1 month ago
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goatkiller68 1 month ago
he didnt flip you idiot the title is wrong
MrSk0al 2 months ago
Tony would've flipped he almost did in the hospital with the fbi
haitianman117 2 months ago
Great video thanks
KissThisAce 2 months ago
So who exactly went to jail instead of him? Who did he flip on?
Sozlled 2 months ago
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iChex 2 months ago
tony would of never flipped
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@iChex
Bullshit! Tony wouldn't have just allocated to his own crimes, he would have ratted on everybody he could as fast as he could. He was so weak he need a shrink to hold his hand. In real life I don't see how he doesn't get whacked for that, easy.
Tony never did anything that didn't benefit him. His selfishness was a running theme of the show. There's no way he spends the rest of his life in prison when he can just screw other people to get out. He was doing that on the outside as it was
Yobachi2007 2 months ago
@Yobachi2007 yes tonys selfishness was a running theme of the show but so was his code of honor. tonys weakness wasnt in his inability to be a true and effective gangster but rather his feelings of worthlessness brought on by his borderline mother and his issues with panic attacks. Hes the alpha male, his selfishness has caused him to violently murder many close people to protect him from persecution from the law. Hes the boss, who above him could he even rat on?
cjb8824 2 months ago
@cjb8824
LOL, What are you talking about? Ratting is not 1 directional. He could rat on EVERYBODY, he knew everything. He talked a good game of honor just like every1 of them do, & the vast majority of them rat when facing serious time.
He had no honor. Just 2 examples: he promoted his nephew undeserving for his own gain. He killed a made guy who violated no rules (which is against the rules), just cause he felt like it.
Clearly you're in love with this guy, but you're hero is no hero at all
Yobachi2007 2 months ago
@Yobachi2007
he didn't testify at the end
iChex 2 months ago
@iChex You kidding? Tony would have flipped in a heartbeat.. thats the whole point of his character. He is the biggest hypocrite on the show, throughout the whole series man... how many times did he break the code for his own gains?
piratebri 2 months ago
he should have just kept his mouth shut and died with the respect from his family crew insted he died a hated rat
grizzleybearz282004 2 months ago
@grizzleybearz282004
no one wants to die in a cell.
u take whatever shit they give you so u can leave early.
from time to time your "friends" will stop comming by to visit
allocuted was a decent price to pay not to die in jail
voice5751 2 months ago
it kills me how the title of the video clip is wrong even when you made captions
0IIMENACEII0 2 months ago
Why do take admitting to the existence of the mafia so hardly?
I mean everybody knows about common people & government. They do not need "proof" prove it. I mean its right in there face.
coolbuddydude1 2 months ago
MUSTA HAD FREE TOKENS AT THE TUNNELS
iChex 2 months ago
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JOHNNY sack
iChex 2 months ago
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iChex 2 months ago
thats gangsta.... if everyone had that mentality alot of good people would be still doin their thing.... FUK A RAT.... OMERTA
DUZWON 2 months ago
Tony would've flipped completely.
clayp72 2 months ago
..he didn`t flip , he just admitted he was in the` La Cosa Nostra`
seraph107 2 months ago
@seraph107
that's flipping. You're not supposed to ever admit the existence of the cosa nostra.
T800System 2 months ago
@T800System ..wrong, flipping is when someone colaborates with the feds ..he didn`t reveal anything
..and if you wanna know, in the real world, even the boss Joseph Bonnano talked on `60 minutes` and talked about The Commission and what not,so he has admitted the existence of it too.. Once again :that`s not flipping!
seraph107 2 months ago
Johnny Sac was my favourite character
slurren 3 months ago
Funny how alot of people consider the FBI and or CIA as a higher moral authority. When evidence have pointed to facts of them only bing low level goons of the Govt. Mafia.
ironlunatic1 3 months ago
Great video
KissThisAce 3 months ago
@PrismaMD I agree. As a matter of fact, that was my guess about how the series might end - with Tony being arrested and "flipping" to testify against the Lupertazzis. That would have nailed the point that Chase was trying to make about Tony, especially in the last few seasons; that he was a weak hypocrite and only looking out for himself, no matter how much he claimed to value the old school mafia rules. It would have also lined up nicely with 'Goodfellas,' one of Chase's main inspirations.
jksonny 3 months ago
@UnbreakableUnion1993 At the time that the rules were drawn up, no they didn't. Also, admitting membership even today creates problems for the mafia. With RICO if a members admits to the existence of the Mafia, FBI surveillance tapes can link anyone in his presence with membership thus creating a profile of Mafia hierarchy that otherwise might be difficult to prove.
LyallM94 3 months ago
lol who can picture ginny sack rolling a big black yukon suv on the way to burger king?
crackernumber2 3 months ago
Those guys should be publicly executed, no trial nothing, they ussualy say that are soldiers and they took orders, the shoud be on trial on military court, then theyll see what justice means.
TheDesertFoxMK 3 months ago
@TheDesertFoxMK oh please . some Mafioso's are better than fucking government .
Smale45OG 3 months ago
@Smale45OG Good call- in all western countries, not just the USA, the only difference between organized crime and government is the massive corruption and theft of elected officials is legalized.
I'd take gangsters over lawyers any day.
notmemate 3 months ago
@TheDesertFoxMK shut the fuck up.
nikola4thelolz 3 months ago
@nikola4thelolz Are you blowing your father cock whith that mouth?
TheDesertFoxMK 3 months ago
@TheDesertFoxMK lol i dont know what you do with your father, but i dont blow him, but if you like that sort of shit, congrats
nikola4thelolz 3 months ago
he probably did die in prison. didn't he have terminal cancer? been a while since i've watched the sopranos...
bigheaded1 3 months ago
@bigheaded1 he did die in prison...started smoking again right before he died too...pretty much said fuck it once he realized he was dying either way
MrKing402 3 months ago
well he did died in prison
mitsubishidiamante 3 months ago
The mafia survives on its secrecy, to admit membership is to remove that veil of secrecy. Rules are there for a reason, John broke the rules. If he was on the streets he'd get a wooden overcoat for that!
LyallM94 3 months ago
He didn't in theory flip. But as you can tell by the anger of the other family members, and if you learn the general rule of the Mafia. You don't ever admit the existence of the family, he did exactly that, admitting he was even in or tied to the family. Hence their resentment towards him at the end.
Jones123Bob 3 months ago
@Jones123Bob Suppose thats why its a secret society.
grimblebrumble17889 3 months ago
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no he didnt flip but he admited to beeing in the mafia so therefor broke the code of omerta(code of silents) and by breaking it he was outcasted! and maybe a candidate to get wacked!!!
serveandcollectable 3 months ago
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FUCKING NAUSEATING!! it could have been worse he could have flipped! ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?YOU DONT EVER ADMIT THE EXISTENCE OF THIS THING EVER!! philly was a true mafioso OMERTA MEANS YOU KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT EVEN IF THAT MEAN LIFE IN PRISON OR DEATH YOU DONT OPEN YOUR MOUTH!
unless your in a dental chear!!
serveandcollectable 3 months ago
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no he didnt flip but he admited to beeing in the mafia so therefor broke the code of omerta(code of silents) and by breaking it he was outcasted! and maybe a candidate to get wacked!!!
serveandcollectable 3 months ago
haha dude i love your username lol
ooohnanana 3 months ago
ahhhhhhhhhhh Johnny Sack never flipped. Get it thru your heads
sitonmyfacedarling 3 months ago
I don't get it: why are they pissed because he pleaded guilty???
bachaka61 3 months ago
@bachaka61
gives the government more ammo to attack them with in future trials
iChex 3 months ago
You're all nuts. The term "to flip" according to the Mafia means to start taking it in the ass. To be homosexual. So now, his name being Johnny Sack will make more sense when he's in prison.
jeffnardone 3 months ago
@jeffnardone the term flip means your a rat
a co operator with the FBI working with them, giving up important information or even worse testifying in open court
your completely wrong with your statement.
RequiumFrost 3 months ago
I think most of you all need to find out what Omerta means before saying he did or didnt do shit. B/c even if you never testify to bring others down,.The point of you speaking up period is a breaking of this code of Omerta Oath. And I mean no disrespect but non italians and sicilians do not have a fathomable clue of what certain mafiosa codes means. Unless you either lived that life or is close to someone who is or has lived it.
GamerOldSkool 4 months ago
lol u never admit the existence of this thing? Phil is such a retarded shit fuck what u dont think the feds have known for oh i dont know fuckin decades?
havik206 4 months ago
@havik206 There's a big difference between knowing and being able too prove something.
kkurrukk 3 months ago
how much time would he have done if he didnt "flip"?
brands1 4 months ago
How did he flip? who did he snitch on? this video title is bullshit...he never grassed on anybody...he admitted he was a gangster that was it..
LordInfamous2011 4 months ago
@LordInfamous2011
Yes he flipped and no he didn't, the allocution merely confirmed he was affiliated with LCN but the nature of the RICO statutes is joint responsibility; in theory his words could have had impact on many others around him, his sworn testimony in which he admits being a gangster would have implicated a lot of other people as gangsters.
RICO is very draconian, you can spend the rest of your life in prison for pretty much just hanging out with gangsters.
theporksicle 4 months ago
he didn't flip.. and whats with the "ope he dies in there"?? nob'ed.
willy12345ization 4 months ago
lol at the end. Never seen Tony is a track suit.....slimming.
brightlights456X 4 months ago
He should have followed Tony when the Police came to his house.
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deeagnol 4 months ago
ALL RATS ARE LIARS! NO MORE LOYALITY ANYWHERE STAND UP GUYS FEW AND FAR BETWEEN GEATOR/JERRY BLAVATT GREAT DJ NO MOBSTER
LVCrocky 4 months ago
he didnt flip you fuckin idiot
CF40 4 months ago
Good scene. For one thing, it shows the degredation of the mafia over the last few decades. The top guy in a New York family is only worth five million, which in that city/state is about 2.5 million.
Johnny's "weakness" was that his mafia mafia family was never important than his real family, a clear violation of La Cosa Nostra.
This event also helps set off Phil. After this, Phil begins to lose faith in everything he ever believed in.
jksonny 4 months ago
@jksonny It actually shows that he has a bigger, loving, caring heart for his wife and children. He would rather be branded, than let them suffer losing everything and starting again. Underneath all his darkness and misdeads, he was probaly the only stand-up husband and father on the show. Doesn't excuse him for his lifestyle and choices and actions, but maybe he was the 'lesser of two evils'. You know chase is showing us most of these guys, deep down, think the life and rules are...
ViceCityVacation 2 months ago
@jksonny total BS. in the grand scheme of life anyway. Look at Chrissy and his true love for Adrianna. Whereas Tony S. would of just ratted to save his own arse and live another day, purely for materialistic means. Not soulful.
ViceCityVacation 2 months ago
@ViceCityVacation Good points about Johnny but I don't think Chris had "true love" for anyone, including Adrianna. You don't sell out your true love and have her killed to protect your own lifestyle.
jksonny 2 months ago
@jksonny Yeah, I'll give you that. I was a little over zealous with the Chris comment.
ViceCityVacation 2 months ago
What's funny is that after Silvio and Tony where bad mouthing Johnny, they go off on the gardener for doing the samething lol
evilmm80 5 months ago
FUCKING NAUSEATING!!
lexpocalik 5 months ago
It's funny to me how low-life criminals who murder, steal and take advantage of people are always bitching about "rats"!
ePirate7 5 months ago
@ePirate7 Yes, it's the dish it out but can't take it mentality, like we should all be grateful for the good they do to the community. This show is great for demonstrating how sociopaths and psychopaths really operate with a criminal mindset.
harkyo 4 months ago
"I wish I was on the courthouse steps to throw acid in his face" lollll
roflwaffle89 5 months ago
change the title of this video you fuckin idiot
ThoughtProduct 5 months ago
'fucking nauseating! you never admit the existence of this thing!' Phil knows the rules!
rub3nski 5 months ago
In order for you to flip, you have to give information that implicates other people. So unless you count telling on YOURSELF as flipping, he didn't flip. Saying "yeah i'm in the mafia" isn't flipping. And he didn't betray any family, because wiseguys are much smarter than to operate thinking the feds dont know they exist. The game is essentially "you know what we're doing. the shit part of your job is proving it. catch us if you can."
misterlestrade 5 months ago
Damn, they cut my favorite part at the very end of the video when the gardner comes up to Tony and Sil to ask them if he still has to cut John's lawn "now that he's guilty". Sil's facial expression and reaction was priceless.
kanguesso 5 months ago
Much as I despised Phil throughout his time on The Sopranos he was right here, Sacriomani should have taken his medicine and taken the 20 year sentence mooted by the federal prosecutor, Phil and other members of that family were prepared to keep tight-lipped for 20 years why not John?
theporksicle 5 months ago
The allocution is the flipping (which is why John didn't want to do it) because it required him to prove FEDS case by giving coorperating information IN COURT against himself and his friends via pleading Guilty to the Criminal charge that he and they were criminals as members of a criminal organization, now that's testifying and flipping whether it leads to others being indicted or not. Plus, Phil corrected Albie right away, "You never ever admit to the existence of this thing".
MrPerryrice 5 months ago
''While Jinny lives on scraps'' I fuckin doubt it somehow.
joesoap81 5 months ago
well said
louiev2000 5 months ago
fuck that's why Phil was so pissed about it " I did 20 fucking years!"
GregorHamilton 6 months ago
Couldn5t believe Johnny Sack flipped.
Pulpedtoafiction31 6 months ago
I wonder how Johnny Sack had enough to pay for his legal fees, after this
79Testo 6 months ago
15 years ain't easy
79Testo 6 months ago
'15 fucking years..
iChex 6 months ago
It's got to suck, watching all the money you worked hard to scam everyone out from and take all that risk making it, killing all those people....and then uncle Sam comes and scoops it up and takes away your freedom for a very long time, if not life.
79Testo 6 months ago
@79Testo seems fair, especially when lives are involved.
harkyo 4 months ago
@harkyo
You mean the lives that were taken or the ones remaining that were financially dependent on the mob figure?
79Testo 4 months ago
The government estimates Johnny Sacks net worth to be $5 Million, it takes $4.1 million from him, and he gets to keep his house + Jenny's $100 grand IRA?
his house appeared to be worth more than $900, 000 in the series.
it doesn't add up.
79Testo 6 months ago
$5 Mill is peanuts for a mob boss, Carmine took the food out of his mouth all through the years.
79Testo 6 months ago
He protected his family, he wanted his wife to have some kind or rood over her head and a pension. In his mind he thinks: hey, I'll be out in 15 years and I'll work over gain and rebuild something.
79Testo 6 months ago
Just like a whore i used to know back in 62,63. Did that flip flop shit on me.
idalgleish87 6 months ago
@idalgleish87 Lol........Johnny Weatherspoon (Vampire in Brooklyn, 1995).
MIKESOWELL 6 months ago
Disliking this video because a minor discrepancy in the title?? Ya must be fucking joking. This is the Sopranos, and only deserves likes!
patrickedmund 6 months ago
change the name ass hat , he didnt flip
Mattykcanoetrippin 6 months ago
Yes yes he DID NOT flip. Flip would be LITERALLY FLIP meaning he gave up names or 'worked' for the Feds. Too all you said he DID not flip thumbs up! But in a way he still betrayed the Mafia by admitting it existed in the first place.
NavCorps1 6 months ago
@NavCorps1 Well then, you're admitting he flipped! You cannot have it both ways.
MrPerryrice 5 months ago
To everyone complaining about the video title saying he didnt flip, He admitted to being in the mafia and acknowledging its existence - didn't testify but still betrayed his family.
Gnocchist 6 months ago 17
@Gnocchist Look up the definition of "allocution." Nothing to do with "flipping." Sorry.
The masses here speak the truth.
TheWitchOvAgnesi 6 months ago
@Gnocchist U obvioulsy know NOTHING about LCN then. What Johny Sac did was " Allocute" meaning he admitted the existence of the mafia, he DID NOT FLIP. Its all right here in the video dummy
jvanley6911 6 months ago
@jvanley6911 In allocution, you not only admit to the existence of something, you admit to a crime, which is why he went to jail. So in John's case, he admitted that not just he, but even his friends were all engaged in a criminal organization, a crime, thus flipping, ratting, snitching,betrayal, the whole nine. Sure, naming names would have made it worse, but admitting that you are a criminal in a crimal organization composed of your friends is still flipping. Ask Phil, Tony, Silvio, etc.
MrPerryrice 5 months ago
@Gnocchist but he didn't flip. flipping means betraying your friends and testifying against them in court. you used the wrong term, that's all. he allocuted to the existence of the mafia. very big difference.
playadominical 6 months ago
@playadominical
its a form of flipping
79Testo 6 months ago
@Gnocchist then why the fuck would Albie say "it could be worse, he could flip"
kukcanoeing 4 months ago
@Gnocchist Preach my dude , because he still broke oath of Omerta by acknowledging he was a mafiosi as well as shining the light on his fam.
GamerOldSkool 4 months ago
@Gnocchist I wouldnt say it was a betrayal. I think its perfectly understandable and those who speak against it I would have to say arent in the same position.
grimblebrumble17889 3 months ago
fuck you all johnny stood tall took his time kept his mouth shut
Devanpkr 6 months ago
FUCKING NAUSEATING!! it could have been worse he could have flipped! ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?YOU DONT EVER ADMIT THE EXISTENCE OF THIS THING EVER!! philly was a true mafioso OMERTA MEANS YOU KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT EVEN IF THAT MEAN LIFE IN PRISON OR DEATH YOU DONT OPEN YOUR MOUTH!
unless your in a dental chear!!
serveandcollectable 7 months ago
to think that piece of shit was my friend once. i hop e he dies in there!!
serveandcollectable 7 months ago
no he didnt flip but he admited to beeing in the mafia so therefor broke the code of omerta(code of silents) and by breaking it he was outcasted! and maybe a candidate to get wacked!!!
serveandcollectable 7 months ago
I always respected Johnny Sack the most of all the "Sopranos"-he truly loved his wife and family-when you think about it-the two biggest pieces of shit-Tony S. and Paulie survived. Hopefully, Tony really did buy the farm in the Ice Cream Shop.
RPenta 7 months ago
He was the boss of New York. If he had flipped for real everyone would have been under arrest. He didn't flip. He allocuted.
afterapplepicking 7 months ago 4
@afterapplepicking He did flip; he just didn't name names. He admitted he and his unnammed friends were organized criminals.
MrPerryrice 5 months ago
i don't think you understand what flipping is, if John had flipped he would have given information to the government leading to the indictment of other mobsters. In fact, at the end of this video Albie clearly says that John DIDN'T flip. did you even watch this video before uploading it?
beatarmy22 7 months ago 28