Geometric Math Drumming????

[sandwiches01]

invest in more toms so you can rock the tetrahedron

[Bhuan73]

nice ...drumming

[shuckuma]

heyy nice drumming! just try to get out a little from the classic punk rythm (tu-pa tu-tu-pa) awesome!

[TheBoomstickhero]

Wait, so how does drumming in a geometric pattern make the music "mathematic"? This is absolutely retarded.

[shuckuma]

@TheBoomstickhero reaaaaaaaally!!!?!?!?!

[elchafa]

Enthusiass



[areamusicale]

that pram makes this video very metal !!!

[iknowaghost69]

too bad your drums sound like a monkey took a shit on a potato chip, ate the potato chip, puked the chip out, cleaned the puke up with a wash cloth, then ate that, went to a bar, had a few drinks, and made some friends.

[MrBkboom342]

Your pretty dumb....

[rramjii]

2:40

"fuck it, back to the triangle..."

[Orpheus063]

I can see you love the challenge, it's usually what draws us to things like this. The techniques you use are very similar to metric modulation in music itself in the way the patterns overlap and intersect, you may however find more of a challenge in using a triangle with one hand and a square with the other. slowly cycling up and down through the shapes. Sorry if you already do this but I'm not a drummer so I don't perfectly follow some of the more complex rhythms you do. Keep up the good work

[trufiend138]

now that i think about it...its easier to come up with shit thinking in these terms rather than the traditonal route (im a "visual but some what a tactile learner)///btw i was hoping u would incorporate the stoller!!!

[hawkcwg]

@trufiend138 what's the stoller? stroller?

[DeLL116]

My teacher shows me things like this....its a good way to get used to polyrhythms....he calls this Rage Shifting.

[hawkcwg]

@Cataclysm31 2:34 was groovy man, I think this whole video is groovy, feeling, what were you feeling when you made this comment? maybe you were discontent about something in your life, that blinded you from telling me how nice my video was, I forgive you my brother.

[Cataclysm31]

@hawkcwg

I was a little forward (I'd had a few beers!), I apologize. I stand by my opinion though.

[hawkcwg]

@Cataclysm31 5:13 isn't feel?

[hawkcwg]

Respond to this video... you can tell by my neck I'm feeling something haha

[k10007]

I actually use this type of method when either figuring out drum fills on songs (to help muscle memory) or just as a way of making a unique roll. I'm glad someone else does this!

[metal666metal300]

starts at 1:12

[hawkcwg]

@metal666metal300 starts at 4:50

[tHickman95]

@metal666metal300 Ends at 6:08

[tyler713247]

the triangle beat thing at the beginning is very similar to the song grandfather by the number 12 looks like you. very impressive

[dtfan0809]

Lovin' the pram in the background.

[leiposuctie]

@dtfan0809 was just going to say the exact same thing:P

[SPARABABBOL]

-.-



[jsjazz3d]

I thought there will be some awesome mathcore stuff

[Anything2bCool]

Reminds me of electroplankton. Nice jam at the end..makes me want to get a drumkit again.

[JoeRocksP]

lol dude i love hearing the stuff people put up and how different drummer start playing different things when they begin. i started with like, tons of ease integrating my double bass into simple nonmetal rhythms, which made it way easier to put it into actual metal

[sauronhall]

Geometric Math Drumming????  .. no, just a noob shit.

[abarbar06]

thats pretty sweet man

[COMPACTASS1]

not!!



[mayito714]

Dude sounds great and the talk is impressive but can I ask you how far you got in Mathematics in High School?

[hawkcwg]

@mayito714 My math skills are quite lacking my friend!!!!!!!!! I am very dumb! HARLDY KNOW A THANG BOUT NOTHIN!

[PO3TRYFL0W]

hawkcwg you are hilarious "may not have notice you were making polygon shapes with your hands..." hahahahaha

[hawkcwg]

@PO3TRYFL0W hahahahahaha thanks man I have fun.



[hawkcwg]

@PO3TRYFL0W hahaha at 2:44 I shoo my mom away to get out of the garage! hahahaha

[xJMAN07x]

Wow this is really cool... I wonder if danny carey is in to this.

[Szaam]

This is a really cool idea. Awesome approach to polyrhythms.

[numanuma20]

I see how it helps impove your fills without having to go through drum therory/.

[johnithansummers]

The mod12 system is just the intervalic naming for chords. I'm trying to weave in occult concepts into my playing. Do a youtube search on tone color alchemy. It's a novel idea. The bar for musicianship is being pushed higher and higher with youtube. Any esoteric information is helpful. Even in the smallest degree.

[hawkcwg]

@johnithansummers Fuck yea man self pleasing is where it's at!

[XxGhHEROxX]

good idea for linear patern playing but i dont think id play my drums all the time in that mind frame

[jellojamcwg]

@XxGhHEROxX Yea man just a small part of the bigger picture, it's all about opening up your playing.

[FeeldahVibe001]

danny ways cousin?

[xxswedexx]

That is awesome. I'm a self taught drummer and play by ear and I've been doing this for a while now without even realizing it...thanks for the sweet video

[ericmsandoval]

JIMMY FALLON?????

[MrEatyourvegetables]

@ericmsandoval

You can tell it's not him because he's not staring straight into the camera and laughing

[ericmsandoval]

@MrEatyourvegetables hahaha good one!

[Thomlistentoslayer]

okay do that triangle pattern with your left hand .........everythings easier done on the right lead ha

[nuklear41]

This is crazy. I have spent the first 1½ Years of my drumming career working on my foot work and integrating that with the hands......but this is kinda blowin my mind.

[hawkcwg]

@nuklear41 haha It's pretty simple man, if you can get into poly-rhythms this is cake. Just triplets against 8th notes.

[fjb1337]

@nuklear41

bullshit.

[halofreak3317]

i made a fill based on this awhile ago without even knowing it when i get home i will video tape it and put it as a response,, it a pretty awesome fill in my opinion. i like this type of drumming experimental is it good

[hawkcwg]

@halofreak3317 Hey thanks a lot man, I am a very obscure player, in my own opinion, really strive for originality.

[ashkrou]

Is that a baby pram I see?

Naisu video.

[hawkcwg]

@ashkrou haha yea

[ilhadosmacacos]

Dude, wtf.

[MikePostDrums]

Funny to see this on YouTube. Back when I first started out drumming (September 2009), I did the exact same thing. It came naturally because I wanted to play polymeters as I listen to a lot of math metal. :)

[SgtPeterFuck]

funny...^^

[lazydavid13]

lol!! inthusi-ass!! 0:18

[AEFic]

Man, this is intense. You've earned tons of math cred.

[hawkcwg]

@AEFic Cool man.

[johnithansummers]

This would be an easy way to generate a metric groove. Why isn't there guitar lessons like this?

[hawkcwg]

@johnithansummers Some people are just not intuitive as me I suppose.

[hailmetal123]

@hawkcwg it doesn't mean that people aren't as intuitive as you, it means that people either don't have the patience to, or the time to record a video of stuff like this..

nice vid.

[hailmetal123]

@johnithansummers i don't know if there are lessons for it or not, but i do it all the time! well, i am not sure about CLOSED shapes (those are your one note per string arpeggios), but just play around with the modes (that is, per string, assuming that one was the index)

1-2-4

1-3-4

1-3-5

if you play them in different patterns, you could stumble upon different scales.

then mutate the modes itself, to get different kinds of scales.

hope i am clear, cause i can't explain properly in "500..."

[johnithansummers]

@hailmetal123 That's a interesting concept. I've used the mod12 system for years and been a necrotic numerologist .Never thought of that.

Any thoughts on linking colors to notes.

[hailmetal123]

@johnithansummers there's a mod12 system for musical notes and scales?? that would be cool. colors to notes? well you could have a system where, assuming that there are a fixed number of notes, the tonic of the scale could be in one color, the supertonic in another color, etc. or, it could be like, the darker the colour a note is in, the closer that note is to the previous note of the scale. therefore, by that system, if a note was in black, the previous note is only one semitone away. helpful?

[hailmetal123]

@johnithansummers i would love to explain that concept that i briefly spoke about more, but it would be too much to say, so whatever i have told you is just a gross oversimplification of what the concept actually is haha!

[clarkshapedbox]

you can also apply these same concepts to the guitar

[hawkcwg]

@clarkshapedbox Yea I'd personally like to try that out, it would be fun. To design a road map using geometric figures down the neck.

[TigerTaint]

he kind of sounds like jimmy fallon

[TankedMetal]

this guys sounds EXACTLY like Jimmy Fallon

[twmatcham]

sounds like dr steve brule

[Bomberdoom]

dude if you place your drums in a circle you can draw triangles inside them

[hawkcwg]

@Bomberdoom Yea man that's a good a Idea sounds cool.

[Bomberdoom]

dude if you place your drums in a circle then you draw triangles inside them

[Bomberdoom]

dude if you place your drums in a circle then you draw triangles inside them

[Bomberdoom]

dude if you place your drums in a circle then you draw triangles inside them

[monkeys1123]

feels like i'm listening to pink floyd :D

[imortalsmile18]

That was really good, at the end when it all came together it sounded great. Sadly im a stereotypical drummer and cant think that much while playing :D

[hawkcwg]

@imortalsmile18 Thanks man, no worries though, you just got to practice, and things will start coming together for you, take a snare book and do it with your hands and feet, and that will really help you out in the long run.

[imortalsmile18]

@hawkcwg no i can already play, im at drum tech in london, i mean i cant think about all those shapes haha it messes with my poor little mind :P

[hawkcwg]

@imortalsmile18 Oh yea me neither, I don't really worry about it, I was just showing it as an example, for starter drummers who want a more nontraditional approach to making fills and such.

[imortalsmile18]

@hawkcwg ah ok but noce concept:) good work.

[hawkcwg]

@imortalsmile18 thanks a lot man.

[hawkcwg]

haha actually yea I guess I do haha.

[hawkcwg]

haha cool man

[49isAmAzInG]

this is very interesting.

[hawkcwg]

yea man, just a neat way to look at things

[thehumanabstract00]

im doing a 15 minute report on geometry in drums sooo thank you so much

[hawkcwg]

No problem, I'm glad I could inspire you friend!

[warwick487]

"you may have already been doing this and not have realized that you were making polygons with your hands"

thanks man, i feel like you just improved my fills a lot

[hawkcwg]

I'm glad to hear that man, I actually teach at my local music store and teach private lessons, if you ever need any help with anything, I could give you some pointers. Fills are pretty difficult, it's really a preference thing, and then just moving various hand patterns and rudiments around the drums in ways that allow you to express yourself. Good luck on your musical path of enlightenment, If you ever have any questions I'd love to help you out, or point you in the right direction!

[pinoy6054708]

listen to bands like Hella, Piglet and idk much more, then you'll hear this

Piglet Songs: Bugstomp, Caramel, etc

[hawkcwg]

@pinoy6054708 what are you talkin bout

[hawkcwg]

@pinoy6054708 yea i know hella, they are pretty insane, the bassist in my band likes them a lot

[FenderGuy33]

lets see a icosahedron shape haha

[hawkcwg]

@FenderGuy33 well since a icosahedron has 12 corners you could make up an ostinato of 12 beats and subdivide it on the drums or do a pattern using the shapes faces and edges and vertices, It would be pretty difficult but you could do it.

[FenderGuy33]

@hawkcwg

dude i just got on google and looked for big shapes i have no clue haha

[hawkcwg]

@FenderGuy33 haha that's funny man

[hawkcwg]

@FenderGuy33 haha yea I had to Wikipedia it myself haha

[FenderGuy33]

@hawkcwg  lmao

[1989bhh]

The baby stroller is metal as shit.

[hawkcwg]

@1989bhh haha yea

[IMNajjar]

I hate myself for having watched this

[jkwttrs]

Great you mastered the triangle and a square.

[hawkcwg]

@jkwttrs just a neat way too look at things.

[hallelujahkingisdead]

this is dumb.. and very obvious

[hawkcwg]

Well sure, it's just another way of looking at things, you see, It's mainly for people who don't like to look at things in a conventional way, plus this is hardly the tip of the iceberg when it comes to this method, it can get extremely complicated, and gets pretty in depth into number groupings, and leads you to calculus which is the infinite amount of possibilities between four limbs. Check out my other videos, and give me your critical opinions.

[underprog]

genius

[DehlingerYamaha]

I freekin love it, thanks so much !

[beyondthefiction]

dang. i wish i could apply this to calculus >.>

[hawkcwg]

OMG man you can, I'm LITERALLY writing a drum book on just that. I'll message you about it.

[sc4v3ng3rSST]

Cool idea.

[hawkcwg]

Thanks a lot man, i did for math class haha.

[sc4v3ng3rSST]

lol.

[JaksProductions]

K Custom <3

[hawkcwg]

K Custom Dry Ride, it's a beautiful thing.

[JaksProductions]

yes... K Custom Dry Ride is mah favourite cymbal in da world.... Including all the other K Customs & K Custom Dry's.... it has such a perfect bell and sound.... amazing :)

[hawkcwg]

It does, it's a masterpiece of sound, space and time. The single greatest innovation on earth. mouth waters...

[johnadamsbass]

how did you get an overhead view with your camera?

[hawkcwg]

I had it on a stand then put it on a bunch of boxes haha.

[johnadamsbass]

thanx

[MikeRob30]

Had to fav dat! A brilliant lesson! thank u so much for sharing! Such a simple approach but by what i hear if you get it down well and build speed on it it makes coll chops and grooves!!

[hawkcwg]

Thanks a lot man glad you liked it, yea i wanted to make a fun way to approach poly-rhythms and thought this would be a cool approach, and surprisingly it came out pretty nicely and sounds good too. And yea it will really build you independence chops up, and makes for some cool sounding grooves, i'll have to explore more down the line. Thanks again.

[KCDise]

sounds like jazz.. I like it !

[hawkcwg]

Thanks a lot man.

[jazzaholick]

isnt that the same thing DC does but of course not as good. keep up the good work and some day maybe some one will talk of your technique

Peace,

E.

[hawkcwg]

yeah i think DC does something like this, but its not something he may explain or talk about. And Marco Minneman probably explains something similar, and more detailed then me though.

Thanks a lot though man.

[P0mt3]

Neat.

[OneEyeMind]

A wonderful effort, Chase. You received an A for your presentation. Happy music! Your teacher and friend, Paul

[oiooioo000]

great one. beats like a painting