i am going to do this later. and did you guys know that iron really does weaken or completely encases the magnetic fields making the halting action of this concept almost zero. and also using iron the stater attracts the magnet on the wheel so then its possible that it will work. but only if the pusher stater only appears when the magnets on the wheel are perfectly positioned to turn the wheel. this looks promising
No there is supposedly a metal that blocks or absorbs magnetic fields. It is called Mu Metal.
It is used for magnetic shielding.
Another alternative is equal amounts of copper and aluminum powder mixed in resin shields anything partially from magnetic fields. It is not that good a magnetic shield but still it will shield things partially.
Hope this helps. Don't ever give up. The ultimate bullshit comes from the people hiding technologies. Mu Metal is one and is a result of military research.
FYI: -unfortunately, while your animation and basic oblique configuration is quite good (you get an 'A'); -your speculation about shielding of the magflux is spacious (you get a 'D'). However, unlike most of the 'know it all' bull-shooters here, your presentation simply lacks the missing ingredient, --a truly effective magflux SHIELD, which would essentially 'block' propagation of flux as though a piece of opaque cardboard blocks the passage of light; --that is what is eluding inventors.!!!
"Permanent energy"? it had to be put in there and that cost moniez. I can put a $50 depolarizer on there and with just a few cycles those magnets are just hunks of metal. the Q is whether you could get the work out of the system before the magnets run out of juice, which they will, and then compare the ergs you generated to those it took not just to polarize the magnets but to mine, smelt, engineer the minerals/chems that went into the actual stuff.
Oh well this vid should if anything PROVE that there is no such thing as free energy. You saw it yourself its so incredibly simple and doesnt exist. Therefor its not possible.
1 you don't need a magnetic shield just the right alignments of magnets duh!
2 you'll only get about 30% efficiency because it took alot of energy to make those magnets and they won't last forever. When two poles are forced together for long periods of time their domains shift to find the lowest energy state.
In the first 6 seconds this video makes one statement with an unnecessary condition and one factual error.
"If the compression force is equal to the push force..."
It can't be anything else. Every action has an equal and opposite reaction. This is why later, when the video says they are different, you know it is wrong.
it continues
"...no energy is gained"
Yes it is. The energy released to move the magnets together is now stored in the system of the two magnets.
@chrisofnottingham well actually while on the topic of newtons 3rd law id like to point out your not going to see an equal push force from the compression force the push force will always be depleted as the system looses energy through friction of the axial, magnets in air and every other atom exerting an electrostatic force on another atom..
@nickoswoos "your not going to see an equal push force from the compression force the push force will always be depleted as the system looses energy through friction of the axial etc "
Dude, those things ARE the forces that push back! The very fact that this is an animation rather than a working model tell us all we need to know.
A cyclic system keeps repeating the same energy states over and over but to keep a system moving it needs to lose energy. Things only move to lose energy.
@chrisofnottingham lol while your right in what your saying, the mode of this video was not (i.e. equal reaction force is experienced in the desired motion (rotation around the shaft) hence my correction. all forces sum to zero under Newtonian law so yes all residual frictions ect are the opposing or driving forces.
Saw a guy on Youtube using Dead AA batteries wrapped in tin as a good shield. Not a 100% but might help the exp. along without breaking the bank. Also you can build a perm. Mag bearing pretty easy also, less friction. But it will need shielding as well... I already have combined the Newman & Ben motor. Now I am adding gravity and this concept. I reached overunity with the electricity. Now need more torque to drive a load. It will happen! Keep Going...
-_- this would ruin the magnets after a while, magnets will get demagnetized, and then energy will be needed to re-magnetize it. infinite sources of energy do not exist, get that in your heads.
still not free energy i.e nonperpetual you still need startup energy and still will has runoff in the form of heat, great idea though, still find some way of making the stored energy in the negative, so that on the first rotation you have nothing but gained energy, then it will be self sustaining, but you'll have to find a lot of loop holes.
as everybody knows,by putting 2 magnets to the same polarity will result they will be depleted in short time,the solution can be to put them to atract whitchever,in this mode for example some neodymium magnets will last for about 250 years.Good luck!
There is always a point of equilibrium you idiot people, friction is enough to stop the motion after some time, that is equal to the energy you give to the system at the start.
the trick is to reduce d magnetic field slightly enough just so d force of compression is lesser than d push and to do that u can basically use almost any material.
Only have one magnet on the outside ring. Have the inner ring be electronic magnets which only connect the circuit as they align with that outside magnet. It would need an initial input of energy, but I think it could work.
@GY4n.....Outstanding! thank you for sharing this kind of info.Shielding is key to unlocking the next generation of clear ,cheap and simple to build power units.
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What all these people seem to forget (or more likely never learned) is that energy cannot be created, only transfered. It's the most fundamental law of physics which is why all these bogus creations never work.
Magnets do not contain energy and if they did they would need to lose mass in order to transfer this energy. So where is this magical energy coming from?
@Kaskpatrask "keep an open mind" but not so open that your brains fall out. No "free energy", "over-unity" or perpetual motion machines have ever worked. I think its safe to say that the first law of thermodynamics is exactly that, a physical law.
@goingtoeatpizza If one can get the magnet motor to work, the shaft will turn another magnet in a copper wired field. like a generator. Just need that magnet motor to work!
@goingtoeatpizza logical, but i have a question. When you have a 12v rotor connected to a v-meter at +/-; If you spin it with your hand, why you have volts at the v-meter?. Where was that energy ?
The energy literaly came from your hand. You are transfering your kenetic energy when you spin the system which then transfers that kinetic energy into electrical energy and the volt meter shows a reading. Unless you continue to supply the system with more energy (ie by spinning it again) the system will slow down and stop.
Free energy has been here all along ,But some very powerfull ppl don't want you and me to be free from energy costs,Get the blueprints for a free energy motor at LT-MAGNET-MOTORdotCOM ,Let the revolution begin!
i can say it doesnt work because ive tried it. but i dont think "free energy" is impossible. please, look up stanley meyer if free energy interests you. and then once you've educated yourself about him, ask yourself why he was murdered.
p.s. if you made billions of dollars a year off energy, oil, and gas and you had the power to supress technology that would take that away, would you?
@driscol1818 No I would not. I would try to discover that technology first so I could make billions off of that and put all my competitors out of buisness at the same time.
@driscol1818 And once more some one misses the bigger issue of... THEY WOULD SELL IT THEMSELVES TO DRIVE THIER COMPETITION OUT OF BUISNESS! dont try to be a fucking jack ass when you know what I am saying is perfectly logical.
I invented a breakthrough energy source which violates the law of energy conservation. I have a PROOF that there are electrodynamic phenomena which violate the law of energy conservation. I am looking for $30 000 for a prototype and for $3M for patents. Making a 15 kW generator will cost $1200 in mass production. Value of energy produced yearly about $10 000.
BS, this is a scam. You can not "block" a magnetic field; it permeates through everything. It is possible to counteract the observable force of a field using another magnetic field, but the original field is still there. It is impossible to break open the lines of force on a magnet and because of that there is simply no way to create a perpetual motion machine.
1 the magnetic field don't work like the gravity or electric field, it's like a "circuit" or a "patht" from the N to the S, always completes the "circle", if there existed a monopole it must move in circles through it
2 you cn't block a magnetic field, there isn't any material that does it (iron makes the circuit shorter)
@ampeyro Thank you for your insights (seriously). To your response, and the many who posted a very similar comment, I would like to say two words: Halbach arrays.
@Gy4n I agree that ampeyro was ignorant of Halbach arrays, however, he (or she) was right in saying you don't understand magnetism if you think this design will work. I have a further two words for you:
@Gy4n Utter bunk, sorry. It's time you listened to the naysayers. I'm afraid they are right. This engine CANNOT work. Where do you believe the energy is coming from?
The problem with designs like these is they always seem to assume that magnets are endless supplies of force. Just because they are called permanent doesn't mean they literally never run out of juice. It seems that way sometimes because of how they're used, like fridge magnets, they don't lose energy because they're not doing work. When magnets repel one another they ARE doing work and this does use up their magnetism. What you basically have here is a wheel powered by an exotic battery.
@ampeyro Or you can make a "shortcut" and direct the magnetic field whenever you want ... Anyways shielding is working , i've made some tests with carbon material and guess what ... it damn works ...
P.S. by saying woks i mean that it can affect the magnetic field so carbon it's a weak shield ... If anyone know a better material for shielding please hit me up ...
@RAZcracK tou can redirect and deform a magnetic field in some ways, but you can't make a perfect "shadow" in it like in the video, and you can't make a zero point machine(or how you want to call it), try to make a coilgun, a steam engine, a maglev miniature, anything that is possible and you could make it work
@ampeyro Think a bit on what you said ... if you can reduce or deform magnetic field you have a " magnetic field difference" witch is equal to free energy as the magnet lives ... you don't need to have a perfect isolation of magnetism, just a little bit difference on magnetic field will make an rotating engine...
So thank you for your way of thinking ...
Remember physics laws aren't complete and will never be so
Yes, the shield works, but no, this idea won't work in this way and I am surprised that most comments don't know why. I will leave you all to figuer out a very simple point. A clue; the answer is in the shield qualities.
Well the idea is fine mby ... but I don't think that someting like this can ever be done, because its really hard to or even impossible to shield a magnetic field
1. geometry is wrong, the magnets will hit each other,
2. magnets aren't magnets for the eternity,
3. you need energy for electromagnet's and you want a lot.
4, you forgot that you want power for N and N that means that you want 2 times the energy, that you want to produce, so there is no free energy with this.
and you want coils for electromagnet's, were is it?
What is it about "free energy" people that they believe if they give something a name (MagDrive, SEG, MEG, Bedini SG Motor) it somehow makes it real and possible?
What is the point in giving a name to something that doesn't, cannot, never did, and never will, work?
If you spent as much time learning science as you do thinking up names you might realise that you don't know very much.
what ruins the reputation of the concept of magnetic powered motor is that people immediately tend to use the word, "free energy".
It is clearly open to interpretation.
It is a very tricky concept, which is why too few have succeeded with their designs.
You realize there is tons of math involved with it, and, of course, most people getting into it are of amateur level, so I'm surprised you haven't clue'd yourself by now as to why this technology hasn't gone far.
@dusteroo Your reasoning is flawed, horribly. What ruins the reputation of the concept is that it is impossible. It isn't even even difficult rto see why yet it completely evades "free energy" nutcases.
"which is why too few have succeeded with their designs"
That's hilarious. NONE have succeeded and only a fool tries.
Your suggested video clip is highly valuable to understand behavior of permanent magnet, but I dont understand language used in clip, If you have same any article with like that drawing than please provide me in English language so I understand complete behavior of permanent magnet with each others.
If even such a shield exists, it Wont work because any shield will also shield the magnet from itself, thereby just effectively shifting the pole of the magnet laterally, and having no net effect on total magnetism.
Your work is very nice where you have clear the main concept.
But clear me, this one is like to be a free source of energy, so why this one technology not seen to solve present energy problems, I mean what is the technicals problem to use this energy. Please discuss in details the problems of this work so I understand at which point this work has stop to come solved energy problem.
@fasterthandarkness That's where you're wrong. Only fools try things that other people know are impossible. Others know there's no point wasting their time.
Some VERY basic science lessons wouldn't go amiss with you "believers".
You really should check the real history of flight before parroting 'common knowledge'. The Wrights were the first to demonstrate controlled self-contained powered flight of a man-carrying machine from a standing start. Leave out any of those conditions and all sorts of contenders appear. In particular, George Cayley who demonstrated man-carrying unpowered flight about a century before. There was also an earlier 'circus' demonstration of flight, but the plane was powered from the ground.
High magnetic permeability metal alloys such as Permalloy and Mu-metal. These materials don't block the magnetic field, as with electric shielding, but rather draw the field into themselves, providing a path for the magnetic field lines around the shielded volume
You may ask me more Question about Magnetic shielding if you have any confusion
You forgot to mention the crucial detail that such alloys are attracted to magnets and therefore cannot be used to provide the essential intermittent shielding, without themselves using up energy. The latter energy will always more than compensate for any expected gain achieved by shielding.
BTW, David Brewster (of angle fame) was fooled by a 19th century 'free energy' inventor; even to the point of writing a scientific paper about a supposed 'magnetic shield'. What a gullible klutz!
We have same confusion, we know this one is like to be a free source of energy, so why this one technology not seen to solve present energy problems, I mean what is the technicals problem to use this energy.
If you got answer of this confusion in future than please discuss with me in details the problems of this work so I understand at which point this work has stop to come solved energy problem,
It's not free energy, it comes from the energy stored in the magnetic field. It's like saying you can can free energy from a lemon, it's from stored energy.
@timetraveler3797 Yes you are right, to manufacture or build magnets its required energy,
In permanents magnet, magnetic intensity decrease after long a period. . . this energy may use as suggested in clip . . I look forward to receive your reply soon!
@timetraveler3797 Suggested magnetic motor technology is a source of energy but Sun is different concept, its very difficult to compare with traditional source of energy, even a future of this energy.
Have you verified by practically to this magnetic motor?
....control the field by using another magnetic field..there by changing the equalibrium point to the next magnet..
I saw that a Rodin coil can produce a magnet with only one pole.. THis argument assume magnets have to have two polls..Well not all steal is the same if you treat it differently.. so,,, I know there is a solution..
You just got to play with this stuff. DONT be so certain. Sometimes all you got to do is make a small adjustment and ... wala!!!...there it is... great video!!
@fasterthandarkness Your (lack of) command of the English language (as in you're borderline illiterate) explains your ridiculous belief if this bullshit.
If the search is for free magnetic energy, there is no solution.
Magnets provide Force, not Energy. To release Energy they must move a Mass. This is the same for gravity. The Force of gravity is eternal but any Mass it moves cannot fall forever, so Energy is limited.
The wheel turns to find its lowest (potential) energy position and then comes to rest. Since it has rotational symmetry, each sector has the same energy level as the others, so it will never want to turn more than one sector.
In the view of magnetic force, its look likes an internal force only which is mass less. But in Solar Strom (Magnetic Strom) is an example where its clear that magnetic field has won status which is liable to escape from surface and do some work.
. I.e. at surface of sun, there is no particular north and south two sides only, when particular zone (area) synchronize one pole and than due to exceed pressure at that particular point, magnetic field escape form sun surface and its liable comes at earth surface.Its very difficult to understand magnetic field is energy or stationary force.
Yes you are right, Can you clear me more detail about effects of magnetic shielding material with permanent magnet. You may suggest me any article to understand complete concept.
That is the problem: there is no shielding material which will not, itself, interact with other magnets. It is easy to prove that no such material can exist because, if such a material existed, it would be possible to use it to build a perpetual motion machine. But perpetual motion yielding a net energy gain is impossible.
Please try to clear, how you comes to conclusion this one technology is not work. Have verified by practically way, means have you done any prototype etc.
Look at it this way: for hundreds of years, people tried to obtain energy from the 'magical' energy fields (gravity, magnetic, etc.) that they detected. Then, a great discovery was made in the 19th century: 'you can't get owt from nowt' EVER in general and, in particular, you can't because fields are conservative.
not enough shielding,too much shielding and the magnet will attract to the shielding material and not have a strong enough repulsion to make it past,you could eventually balance it out and discover for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.:)
Come on guys, try to think logicaly. It's not the problem with the developing the generator, and actually it work. it's the goverment that doesn't want to stop making money on oil which is used to fuel the cars or running generator turbines! This is like billion dollar industry! Why would the let it go...
Why is the reason for a lack of a perpetual motion generator always some conspiracy by the oil companies? You can't make such a statement unless you've actually BUILT a mag generator, or have SEEN a working prototype. Otherwise, you have no reason to suspect anything.
Please try to clear, how you comes to conclusion this one technology is not work. Have verified by practically way, means have you done any prototype etc.
You're telling me that I have to create a prototype to prove that a perpetual motion generator is impossible? Seriously, you don't think scientists have tried this before? If you could build a machine that generates power using magnetism, you could solve the world's energy problems and become a billionaire. So I guess I would have to ask you, why don't YOU build a prototype to prove that this machine works, and in the process become filthy rich?
Go right now and syphon out the money from the govt for this project `PROJECT PUSH PULL'...!!We will never know you will be a millionaire scientist tommorrow with nothing done...!!
tryed it it doesnt work, you would save alot of time making and testing this idea rather then making these pointless animated never going to work ideas
Please try to clear, how you comes to conclusion this one technology is not work. Have verified by practically way, means have you done any prototype etc. if yes than which types of problem you face?
What does that mean? It's a metallic element. If you mean something that acts like Bismuth, then most things in the same group would suffice--at least in the same sense that Potassium is "artificial" Sodium because they act in similar ways.
Just now, I got the comment back from XtremePunker84 from three months ago...boy! He wanted to put me into a doghouse, and lock the door!
And he tells ME to go READ A BOOK?
Well, I came on this forum and found out some of his comments have been deleted. Too bad. would have liked to try and help the poor bugger. Oh well.
G4yn...thank you for this posting. And there's got to be some NON-MAGNETIC material that COULD be used in place of "Fielder's tape" that could BLock magnetic forces.
Please clear me more about the concept of Fielder's tape regarding block of magnetic field, if you have possible than try to sent any article for details.
i am going to do this later. and did you guys know that iron really does weaken or completely encases the magnetic fields making the halting action of this concept almost zero. and also using iron the stater attracts the magnet on the wheel so then its possible that it will work. but only if the pusher stater only appears when the magnets on the wheel are perfectly positioned to turn the wheel. this looks promising
frogfan101 1 week ago
You can not shield magnetism like that.
look at "programmable magnets" this might help
Magnets That contain of many small poles instead of one big , Have a different distance-vs-strenght curve.
Also , they now created magnets , that attract their opposite , until a certain distance
mckheu 3 weeks ago
No there is supposedly a metal that blocks or absorbs magnetic fields. It is called Mu Metal.
It is used for magnetic shielding.
Another alternative is equal amounts of copper and aluminum powder mixed in resin shields anything partially from magnetic fields. It is not that good a magnetic shield but still it will shield things partially.
Hope this helps. Don't ever give up. The ultimate bullshit comes from the people hiding technologies. Mu Metal is one and is a result of military research.
SammyWalker888 1 month ago
FYI: -unfortunately, while your animation and basic oblique configuration is quite good (you get an 'A'); -your speculation about shielding of the magflux is spacious (you get a 'D'). However, unlike most of the 'know it all' bull-shooters here, your presentation simply lacks the missing ingredient, --a truly effective magflux SHIELD, which would essentially 'block' propagation of flux as though a piece of opaque cardboard blocks the passage of light; --that is what is eluding inventors.!!!
AryanKnight 1 month ago
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AryanKnight 1 month ago
This is troll physics at work... You forget that by your schematics you are violating Gauss's Law... nice try
Aegis5461 2 months ago
where is the prototype man?
DioptriyForever 2 months ago
It not works with out induction magnetic field !!!
rolandas1985 4 months ago
"Permanent energy"? it had to be put in there and that cost moniez. I can put a $50 depolarizer on there and with just a few cycles those magnets are just hunks of metal. the Q is whether you could get the work out of the system before the magnets run out of juice, which they will, and then compare the ergs you generated to those it took not just to polarize the magnets but to mine, smelt, engineer the minerals/chems that went into the actual stuff.
SuperZekethefreak 4 months ago
A Bonettic shield? WTF is that?
lumberdoktor 4 months ago
Oh well this vid should if anything PROVE that there is no such thing as free energy. You saw it yourself its so incredibly simple and doesnt exist. Therefor its not possible.
jrmyrook 5 months ago
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FlowersAll 5 months ago 4
Yeah but... No.
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freeenergyfact 6 months ago
1 you don't need a magnetic shield just the right alignments of magnets duh!
2 you'll only get about 30% efficiency because it took alot of energy to make those magnets and they won't last forever. When two poles are forced together for long periods of time their domains shift to find the lowest energy state.
you can't get free energy
you can only change the energy not make it
rsking138 7 months ago
Where does the energy come from to drive the wheel?
SuperShiningSun 7 months ago
___ w w w diymagneticmotor com for FREE energy should be intersting there..
afdghwer 8 months ago
HEY DUDE!!! It looks you have a LOOOOT to explain. What the fuck was that?
vartatoosh 8 months ago
what's a magnetic shield?
kittykatro 8 months ago
ok the first 3 seconds of this video about sums up your level of knowledge... 'take two *permanent* magnets'....sigh...
nickoswoos 8 months ago
112 out of 130 people failed physics forever. Good job people.
PCSoftware 9 months ago
If only it was that easy...
wyrrox 9 months ago
In the first 6 seconds this video makes one statement with an unnecessary condition and one factual error.
"If the compression force is equal to the push force..."
It can't be anything else. Every action has an equal and opposite reaction. This is why later, when the video says they are different, you know it is wrong.
it continues
"...no energy is gained"
Yes it is. The energy released to move the magnets together is now stored in the system of the two magnets.
chrisofnottingham 9 months ago
@chrisofnottingham well actually while on the topic of newtons 3rd law id like to point out your not going to see an equal push force from the compression force the push force will always be depleted as the system looses energy through friction of the axial, magnets in air and every other atom exerting an electrostatic force on another atom..
nickoswoos 8 months ago
@nickoswoos "your not going to see an equal push force from the compression force the push force will always be depleted as the system looses energy through friction of the axial etc "
Dude, those things ARE the forces that push back! The very fact that this is an animation rather than a working model tell us all we need to know.
A cyclic system keeps repeating the same energy states over and over but to keep a system moving it needs to lose energy. Things only move to lose energy.
chrisofnottingham 8 months ago
@chrisofnottingham lol while your right in what your saying, the mode of this video was not (i.e. equal reaction force is experienced in the desired motion (rotation around the shaft) hence my correction. all forces sum to zero under Newtonian law so yes all residual frictions ect are the opposing or driving forces.
nickoswoos 8 months ago
I once experienced a cluster of randomly placed magnets buzzing overnight. I accidentally disturbed the mechanism with my ear.
Ever since, NOBODY can convince me tapping energy from the aether is impossible.
Nomasain 9 months ago
Saw a guy on Youtube using Dead AA batteries wrapped in tin as a good shield. Not a 100% but might help the exp. along without breaking the bank. Also you can build a perm. Mag bearing pretty easy also, less friction. But it will need shielding as well... I already have combined the Newman & Ben motor. Now I am adding gravity and this concept. I reached overunity with the electricity. Now need more torque to drive a load. It will happen! Keep Going...
TheBrstp 10 months ago
-_- this would ruin the magnets after a while, magnets will get demagnetized, and then energy will be needed to re-magnetize it. infinite sources of energy do not exist, get that in your heads.
PandaLust 10 months ago
@PandaLust Yep that's true... though neodymium magnets take around 400 years to lose its magnetic strength so not that bad
xptos1 9 months ago
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wyrrox 10 months ago
The author of the video forgot to mention that the iron on each magnet will attract and 'drag' the opposing magnet.
tenkosami 10 months ago
still not free energy i.e nonperpetual you still need startup energy and still will has runoff in the form of heat, great idea though, still find some way of making the stored energy in the negative, so that on the first rotation you have nothing but gained energy, then it will be self sustaining, but you'll have to find a lot of loop holes.
thebloodofhisdeath 10 months ago
I know that's possible, but why don't the big science organisation just build it?
wyrrox 11 months ago
now you just have to come up with a way to block magnetism. ha. good luck with that
tuchdoun 11 months ago
as everybody knows,by putting 2 magnets to the same polarity will result they will be depleted in short time,the solution can be to put them to atract whitchever,in this mode for example some neodymium magnets will last for about 250 years.Good luck!
lucianfotache 11 months ago
There is always a point of equilibrium you idiot people, friction is enough to stop the motion after some time, that is equal to the energy you give to the system at the start.
Study before doing experiments.
antoniogiordano1989 11 months ago
pyrolytic carbon is interesting
junkyjuice21 11 months ago
the trick is to reduce d magnetic field slightly enough just so d force of compression is lesser than d push and to do that u can basically use almost any material.
slobodanzjalic 1 year ago
Great big pile of wank.
93tomb 1 year ago
I think I know how to make this work.. maybe..
Only have one magnet on the outside ring. Have the inner ring be electronic magnets which only connect the circuit as they align with that outside magnet. It would need an initial input of energy, but I think it could work.
JaysThoughts 1 year ago
0:20, whats that blue magic shield ?
Gosker4 1 year ago
wikipedia: Halbach Arrays
kbd2005 1 year ago
To work a magnetic shield has to either form a closed circuit or be very massive.
A shield has to be made of a magnetic material. Your shields are too thin and would
simply become extensions of the magnets they are attached to. So absolutely nothing
is changed by addition of your so called "shields". I have 6 words for you: Learn the
science of magnetic shielding.
ToemanX 1 year ago
which material will we use for blocking magnetic field?....
rajafaisaltariq 1 year ago
The energy comes sfrom ORDER. This is a principle that many Knows BUT do not shows .
massware 1 year ago
great. So your driving your car with our magdrive eh? Or let me ask you this... is your energy bill positive or negative?
Yea, thought so.
bdhcarbon 1 year ago
@bdhcarbon LOL good one XD "positive or negative?" lol___lol,
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Alkatross 1 year ago
@GY4n.....Outstanding! thank you for sharing this kind of info.Shielding is key to unlocking the next generation of clear ,cheap and simple to build power units.
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offertorycardiacml 1 year ago
If it's so easy i would've liked to see a real example and not a drawd one
VanDieGoeieDingen 1 year ago
What all these people seem to forget (or more likely never learned) is that energy cannot be created, only transfered. It's the most fundamental law of physics which is why all these bogus creations never work.
Magnets do not contain energy and if they did they would need to lose mass in order to transfer this energy. So where is this magical energy coming from?
goingtoeatpizza 1 year ago
@goingtoeatpizza
Yeah, that is what we have all been told in school.
Don't believe everything you are told.
Not that long ago they taught people that the earth was flat.
Keep an open mind.
;)
Kaskpatrask 1 year ago
@Kaskpatrask "keep an open mind" but not so open that your brains fall out. No "free energy", "over-unity" or perpetual motion machines have ever worked. I think its safe to say that the first law of thermodynamics is exactly that, a physical law.
goingtoeatpizza 1 year ago
@goingtoeatpizza If one can get the magnet motor to work, the shaft will turn another magnet in a copper wired field. like a generator. Just need that magnet motor to work!
Skyywatcher88 1 year ago
@goingtoeatpizza logical, but i have a question. When you have a 12v rotor connected to a v-meter at +/-; If you spin it with your hand, why you have volts at the v-meter?. Where was that energy ?
astrallife 10 months ago
@astrallife "Where was that energy?"
The energy literaly came from your hand. You are transfering your kenetic energy when you spin the system which then transfers that kinetic energy into electrical energy and the volt meter shows a reading. Unless you continue to supply the system with more energy (ie by spinning it again) the system will slow down and stop.
goingtoeatpizza 10 months ago
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Free energy has been here all along ,But some very powerfull ppl don't want you and me to be free from energy costs,Get the blueprints for a free energy motor at LT-MAGNET-MOTORdotCOM ,Let the revolution begin!
graywackeknifebdr 1 year ago
you dont need the wheel to accelerate to acheive free energy, you just need the amount of energy generated to be greater then the amount lost.
Mastervitro 1 year ago
That's not correct.
fronkenpoop 1 year ago
I had this idea before I fell asleep last night
spartan688082 1 year ago
Not the working engine of 100 %
olegshpola 1 year ago
i can say it doesnt work because ive tried it. but i dont think "free energy" is impossible. please, look up stanley meyer if free energy interests you. and then once you've educated yourself about him, ask yourself why he was murdered.
p.s. if you made billions of dollars a year off energy, oil, and gas and you had the power to supress technology that would take that away, would you?
driscol1818 1 year ago
@driscol1818
Nope
Eltsuman 1 year ago
@driscol1818 No I would not. I would try to discover that technology first so I could make billions off of that and put all my competitors out of buisness at the same time.
MrAwsome514 1 year ago
@MrAwsome514 you cant try to discover something first if its already been discovered lol
driscol1818 1 year ago
@driscol1818 And once more some one misses the bigger issue of... THEY WOULD SELL IT THEMSELVES TO DRIVE THIER COMPETITION OUT OF BUISNESS! dont try to be a fucking jack ass when you know what I am saying is perfectly logical.
MrAwsome514 1 year ago
@driscol1818 By the way it has not allready been discovered. This design in the vid is over 100 years old and has never once been made to work.
MrAwsome514 1 year ago
good Video,no funktion this,
ZZ2SVA 1 year ago
When you invent that magnetic shield you let us all know.
jib1000 1 year ago
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henrykay01 1 year ago
Incredibile ma vero e semplice.
aarconte 1 year ago
BS, this is a scam. You can not "block" a magnetic field; it permeates through everything. It is possible to counteract the observable force of a field using another magnetic field, but the original field is still there. It is impossible to break open the lines of force on a magnet and because of that there is simply no way to create a perpetual motion machine.
nukem419 1 year ago
you just don't understand magnetism
1 the magnetic field don't work like the gravity or electric field, it's like a "circuit" or a "patht" from the N to the S, always completes the "circle", if there existed a monopole it must move in circles through it
2 you cn't block a magnetic field, there isn't any material that does it (iron makes the circuit shorter)
ampeyro 1 year ago 3
@ampeyro Thank you for your insights (seriously). To your response, and the many who posted a very similar comment, I would like to say two words: Halbach arrays.
Gy4n 1 year ago 2
@Gy4n I agree that ampeyro was ignorant of Halbach arrays, however, he (or she) was right in saying you don't understand magnetism if you think this design will work. I have a further two words for you:
Lenz's Law.
moltencheese123 1 year ago
@Gy4n Utter bunk, sorry. It's time you listened to the naysayers. I'm afraid they are right. This engine CANNOT work. Where do you believe the energy is coming from?
8earthchild8 1 year ago
@Gy4n
The problem with designs like these is they always seem to assume that magnets are endless supplies of force. Just because they are called permanent doesn't mean they literally never run out of juice. It seems that way sometimes because of how they're used, like fridge magnets, they don't lose energy because they're not doing work. When magnets repel one another they ARE doing work and this does use up their magnetism. What you basically have here is a wheel powered by an exotic battery.
TheFounderUtopia 11 months ago
@ampeyro Or you can make a "shortcut" and direct the magnetic field whenever you want ... Anyways shielding is working , i've made some tests with carbon material and guess what ... it damn works ...
P.S. by saying woks i mean that it can affect the magnetic field so carbon it's a weak shield ... If anyone know a better material for shielding please hit me up ...
RAZcracK 1 year ago
@RAZcracK tou can redirect and deform a magnetic field in some ways, but you can't make a perfect "shadow" in it like in the video, and you can't make a zero point machine(or how you want to call it), try to make a coilgun, a steam engine, a maglev miniature, anything that is possible and you could make it work
ampeyro 1 year ago
@ampeyro Think a bit on what you said ... if you can reduce or deform magnetic field you have a " magnetic field difference" witch is equal to free energy as the magnet lives ... you don't need to have a perfect isolation of magnetism, just a little bit difference on magnetic field will make an rotating engine...
So thank you for your way of thinking ...
Remember physics laws aren't complete and will never be so
NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE ...
Thanks for reading and take care ...
RAZcracK 1 year ago
@ampeyro
take a look for a shielding
/watch?v=3aVxB9oXcEc&feature=related
neno4real 7 months ago
WORKS ON THE SAME PRINCIPLE AS PERENDEV MOTOR. ALREADY ON YOUTUBE RUNNING.GET EDUCATED AT overunitybuilder com
DQuale 1 year ago
Yes, the shield works, but no, this idea won't work in this way and I am surprised that most comments don't know why. I will leave you all to figuer out a very simple point. A clue; the answer is in the shield qualities.
OutsideTheEdge 1 year ago
Well the idea is fine mby ... but I don't think that someting like this can ever be done, because its really hard to or even impossible to shield a magnetic field
MrHubert90 1 year ago
A Magnetic shield that reduces magnetic field DOESN'T EXIST!!!!!
Otherwise... would be a good idea
VederchiHarry 1 year ago
@VederchiHarry ofcourse magnetic shields exist, what do you think sensitive electronics or encased in? This won't work for another reason.
OutsideTheEdge 1 year ago
@OutsideTheEdge OK... let me put it another way... A Magnetic shield that doesn't need any kind of energy.. doesn't exist!
VederchiHarry 1 year ago
@VederchiHarry Exactly right.
OutsideTheEdge 1 year ago
@VederchiHarry Try out carbon and you'll change your mind ...
RAZcracK 1 year ago
@VederchiHarry two words for you....Halbach Array
sypha0x 1 year ago
1. geometry is wrong, the magnets will hit each other,
2. magnets aren't magnets for the eternity,
3. you need energy for electromagnet's and you want a lot.
4, you forgot that you want power for N and N that means that you want 2 times the energy, that you want to produce, so there is no free energy with this.
and you want coils for electromagnet's, were is it?
iamintohell 1 year ago
What is it about "free energy" people that they believe if they give something a name (MagDrive, SEG, MEG, Bedini SG Motor) it somehow makes it real and possible?
What is the point in giving a name to something that doesn't, cannot, never did, and never will, work?
If you spent as much time learning science as you do thinking up names you might realise that you don't know very much.
bollox93 2 years ago 2
what ruins the reputation of the concept of magnetic powered motor is that people immediately tend to use the word, "free energy".
It is clearly open to interpretation.
It is a very tricky concept, which is why too few have succeeded with their designs.
You realize there is tons of math involved with it, and, of course, most people getting into it are of amateur level, so I'm surprised you haven't clue'd yourself by now as to why this technology hasn't gone far.
dusteroo 1 year ago
@dusteroo Your reasoning is flawed, horribly. What ruins the reputation of the concept is that it is impossible. It isn't even even difficult rto see why yet it completely evades "free energy" nutcases.
"which is why too few have succeeded with their designs"
That's hilarious. NONE have succeeded and only a fool tries.
bollox93 1 year ago
Dear sir,
Thanks!
Your suggested video clip is highly valuable to understand behavior of permanent magnet, but I dont understand language used in clip, If you have same any article with like that drawing than please provide me in English language so I understand complete behavior of permanent magnet with each others.
I look forward to receive your reply soon!
Yogesh Sonar
India
ypsonar 2 years ago
If even such a shield exists, it Wont work because any shield will also shield the magnet from itself, thereby just effectively shifting the pole of the magnet laterally, and having no net effect on total magnetism.
JDCubed789 2 years ago
Dear Sir,
Your work is very nice where you have clear the main concept.
But clear me, this one is like to be a free source of energy, so why this one technology not seen to solve present energy problems, I mean what is the technicals problem to use this energy. Please discuss in details the problems of this work so I understand at which point this work has stop to come solved energy problem.
I look forward to receive your reply soon!
Yogesh Sonar
India
ypsonar 2 years ago
he puesto un comentario y no ha salido
cazadordevientos 2 years ago
You never know till ya try..
fasterthandarkness 2 years ago
@fasterthandarkness That's where you're wrong. Only fools try things that other people know are impossible. Others know there's no point wasting their time.
Some VERY basic science lessons wouldn't go amiss with you "believers".
bollox93 2 years ago
dog seriously,,, IMAGINATION IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN KNOWLEDGE...
focus on a solution you'll feel better...
Have a nice day :)
fasterthandarkness 2 years ago
"IMAGINATION IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN KNOWLEDGE"
Well it would be if, just by imagining things, you could make them come true. Unfortunately you can't. Therefore knowledge wins. Everytime.
bollox93 2 years ago
heavy than air flight was impossible before the wright brothers proved everyone wrong..
But it was always possible.
fasterthandarkness 2 years ago
You really should check the real history of flight before parroting 'common knowledge'. The Wrights were the first to demonstrate controlled self-contained powered flight of a man-carrying machine from a standing start. Leave out any of those conditions and all sorts of contenders appear. In particular, George Cayley who demonstrated man-carrying unpowered flight about a century before. There was also an earlier 'circus' demonstration of flight, but the plane was powered from the ground.
flowerbower 2 years ago
And which would be that shielding material?
johnspecker 2 years ago
High magnetic permeability metal alloys such as Permalloy and Mu-metal. These materials don't block the magnetic field, as with electric shielding, but rather draw the field into themselves, providing a path for the magnetic field lines around the shielded volume
You may ask me more Question about Magnetic shielding if you have any confusion
Yogesh Sonar
India
ypsonar 2 years ago
You forgot to mention the crucial detail that such alloys are attracted to magnets and therefore cannot be used to provide the essential intermittent shielding, without themselves using up energy. The latter energy will always more than compensate for any expected gain achieved by shielding.
BTW, David Brewster (of angle fame) was fooled by a 19th century 'free energy' inventor; even to the point of writing a scientific paper about a supposed 'magnetic shield'. What a gullible klutz!
flowerbower 2 years ago
This is so simple to build, where is the model? Where is the proof of concept, or a prototype?
Because there is no such thing as a free lunch.
ikedasquid 2 years ago
Dear Sir,
We have same confusion, we know this one is like to be a free source of energy, so why this one technology not seen to solve present energy problems, I mean what is the technicals problem to use this energy.
If you got answer of this confusion in future than please discuss with me in details the problems of this work so I understand at which point this work has stop to come solved energy problem,
I look forward to receive your reply soon!
Yogesh Sonar
India
ypsonar 2 years ago
My friend Yogesh,
I wouldn't hold your breath, I don't think we'll be seeing a prototype anytime soon - of course because it will not work.
Regards,
Ike
ikedasquid 2 years ago
Dear Ike,
How you comes to one conclusion, this one technology is not work. Have verified by practically way, means have you done any prototype etc.
Can I know more about you!
Please reply!
Yogesh Sonar
ypsonar 2 years ago
laws are meant to be broken. keep trying someone will find a way
eonsnuddee 2 years ago
It's not free energy, it comes from the energy stored in the magnetic field. It's like saying you can can free energy from a lemon, it's from stored energy.
timetraveler3797 2 years ago
@timetraveler3797 Yes you are right, to manufacture or build magnets its required energy,
In permanents magnet, magnetic intensity decrease after long a period. . . this energy may use as suggested in clip . . I look forward to receive your reply soon!
Yogesh Sonar
INDIA
ypsonar 2 years ago
Hey, here's and idea,
if the magnets are "recharged" by mag inducers, then they can store power sources that are intermitten like solar power.
timetraveler3797 2 years ago
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ypsonar 2 years ago
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@timetraveler3797 Suggested magnetic motor technology is a source of energy but Sun is different concept, its very difficult to compare with traditional source of energy, even a future of this energy.
Have you verified by practically to this magnetic motor?
Can I know more about you!
ypsonar 2 years ago
Before spend money buying parts to build this, "google" STEORM and ORBO
jotacril 2 years ago
....control the field by using another magnetic field..there by changing the equalibrium point to the next magnet..
I saw that a Rodin coil can produce a magnet with only one pole.. THis argument assume magnets have to have two polls..Well not all steal is the same if you treat it differently.. so,,, I know there is a solution..
You just got to play with this stuff. DONT be so certain. Sometimes all you got to do is make a small adjustment and ... wala!!!...there it is... great video!!
fasterthandarkness 2 years ago
@fasterthandarkness Your (lack of) command of the English language (as in you're borderline illiterate) explains your ridiculous belief if this bullshit.
bollox93 2 years ago
@bollo93... wow all you got are insults.
why dont you focus on a solution instead of a problem.
discuss ideas... dont insult people..you dont know me and from the one sentence you read all the sudden your an expert on me.. seriously.....
fasterthandarkness 2 years ago
Communication understanding is the feature of Language . . .
ypsonar 2 years ago
Just in case anyone isn't clear about this; It won't work.
All the shielding does is move the equilibrium point closer to the next magnet. You can't make a roller-coaster ride that runs downhill forever!
chrisofnottingham 2 years ago
Dear Sir,
Yes you have got right point, these inner and outer magnets steps are in same face to each other.
Do you have any solution to come over this problem.
I look forward to receive your reply soon.
Yogesh Sonar
ypsonar 2 years ago
If the search is for free magnetic energy, there is no solution.
Magnets provide Force, not Energy. To release Energy they must move a Mass. This is the same for gravity. The Force of gravity is eternal but any Mass it moves cannot fall forever, so Energy is limited.
The wheel turns to find its lowest (potential) energy position and then comes to rest. Since it has rotational symmetry, each sector has the same energy level as the others, so it will never want to turn more than one sector.
chrisofnottingham 2 years ago
Thanks for reply!
In the view of magnetic force, its look likes an internal force only which is mass less. But in Solar Strom (Magnetic Strom) is an example where its clear that magnetic field has won status which is liable to escape from surface and do some work.
ypsonar 2 years ago
. I.e. at surface of sun, there is no particular north and south two sides only, when particular zone (area) synchronize one pole and than due to exceed pressure at that particular point, magnetic field escape form sun surface and its liable comes at earth surface.Its very difficult to understand magnetic field is energy or stationary force.
Can we think again to come one answer?
Can I know more about personally about you!
Reply please!
Yogesh Sonar
ypsonar 2 years ago
you cant 'sheild' magnetic lines.
unix001 2 years ago
Dear Sir,
Yes you are right, Can you clear me more detail about effects of magnetic shielding material with permanent magnet. You may suggest me any article to understand complete concept.
I look forward to receive your reply soon!
Yogesh Sonar
INDIA
ypsonar 2 years ago
what type pf material can be used for the mgnetic-shield?
hansgepunkt 2 years ago
sure not metal
Tuttipazzixpizzi 2 years ago
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High magnetic permeability metal alloys such as Permalloy or Mu-metal are applicable as magnetic shielding.
- Yogesh Sonar (India)
ypsonar 2 years ago
That is the problem: there is no shielding material which will not, itself, interact with other magnets. It is easy to prove that no such material can exist because, if such a material existed, it would be possible to use it to build a perpetual motion machine. But perpetual motion yielding a net energy gain is impossible.
flowerbower 2 years ago
Dear Sir,
Please try to clear, how you comes to conclusion this one technology is not work. Have verified by practically way, means have you done any prototype etc.
I look forward to receive your reply soon!
Yogesh Sonar
India
ypsonar 2 years ago
Look at it this way: for hundreds of years, people tried to obtain energy from the 'magical' energy fields (gravity, magnetic, etc.) that they detected. Then, a great discovery was made in the 19th century: 'you can't get owt from nowt' EVER in general and, in particular, you can't because fields are conservative.
flowerbower 2 years ago
High magnetic permeability metal alloys such as Permalloy or Mu-metal are applicable as magnetic shielding.
- Yogesh Sonar (India)
ypsonar 2 years ago
not enough shielding,too much shielding and the magnet will attract to the shielding material and not have a strong enough repulsion to make it past,you could eventually balance it out and discover for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.:)
jonnyasprin 2 years ago
Dear Sir,
You are right, Magnetic shielding metal also attract both magnets of inner and outer steps.
Have you any solution to come over this problem.
I look forward to receive your reply soon!
Yogesh Sonar
India
ypsonar 2 years ago
There is no free energy achieved, you might enter easier but it's harder to leave because the magnet becomes more attracted to the shielding.
Rotitomato 2 years ago
Dear Sir,
You are right, Magnetic shielding metal also attract both magnets of inner and outer steps.
Have you any solution to come over this problem.
I look forward to receive your reply soon!
Yogesh Sonar
India
ypsonar 2 years ago
I would love to see a working magnetic power device, but this yet ANOTHER theory, build one and lets see it in action
GlobalAgenda 2 years ago
Come on guys, try to think logicaly. It's not the problem with the developing the generator, and actually it work. it's the goverment that doesn't want to stop making money on oil which is used to fuel the cars or running generator turbines! This is like billion dollar industry! Why would the let it go...
zeomarmob 2 years ago 2
montauk child raep, thats why faggot
randombeamshipman 2 years ago
Have you done prototype?
ypsonar 2 years ago
Why is the reason for a lack of a perpetual motion generator always some conspiracy by the oil companies? You can't make such a statement unless you've actually BUILT a mag generator, or have SEEN a working prototype. Otherwise, you have no reason to suspect anything.
grits011 2 years ago
sounds simple,how come those magnet motors arent outside my house next to the central A.C. unit?
jonnyasprin 2 years ago
That's impossible.
grits011 2 years ago
Dear Sir,
Please try to clear, how you comes to conclusion this one technology is not work. Have verified by practically way, means have you done any prototype etc.
I look forward to receive your reply soon!
Yogesh Sonar
India
ypsonar 2 years ago
You're telling me that I have to create a prototype to prove that a perpetual motion generator is impossible? Seriously, you don't think scientists have tried this before? If you could build a machine that generates power using magnetism, you could solve the world's energy problems and become a billionaire. So I guess I would have to ask you, why don't YOU build a prototype to prove that this machine works, and in the process become filthy rich?
grits011 2 years ago
Oh, and by the way, you CAN'T block a magnetic field. There's no such thing as a magnetic 'shield'.
grits011 2 years ago
Hah...!!Easily said than done....!!
Go right now and syphon out the money from the govt for this project `PROJECT PUSH PULL'...!!We will never know you will be a millionaire scientist tommorrow with nothing done...!!
fabrosin 2 years ago
tryed it it doesnt work, you would save alot of time making and testing this idea rather then making these pointless animated never going to work ideas
zeropointprophet 2 years ago
Dear Sir,
Please try to clear, how you comes to conclusion this one technology is not work. Have verified by practically way, means have you done any prototype etc. if yes than which types of problem you face?
I look forward to receive your reply soon!
Yogesh Sonar
India
ypsonar 2 years ago
Hilarious.
bollox93 2 years ago
@Victorywillbemine....Could ARTIFICAL BISMUTH be made?
KaptBlasto 2 years ago
"Artificial Bismuth..."
What does that mean? It's a metallic element. If you mean something that acts like Bismuth, then most things in the same group would suffice--at least in the same sense that Potassium is "artificial" Sodium because they act in similar ways.
HelplessVictim 2 years ago
Just now, I got the comment back from XtremePunker84 from three months ago...boy! He wanted to put me into a doghouse, and lock the door!
And he tells ME to go READ A BOOK?
Well, I came on this forum and found out some of his comments have been deleted. Too bad. would have liked to try and help the poor bugger. Oh well.
G4yn...thank you for this posting. And there's got to be some NON-MAGNETIC material that COULD be used in place of "Fielder's tape" that could BLock magnetic forces.
KaptBlasto 2 years ago
Dear Sir,
Please clear me more about the concept of Fielder's tape regarding block of magnetic field, if you have possible than try to sent any article for details.
I look forward to receive your reply soon!
Yogesh Sonar
India
ypsonar 2 years ago
i belive this in action not animation
kuroshe1 2 years ago
bismuth
victorywillbmine 2 years ago
he is right but the thing is there is no such thing aa a good magnetic shield , so find the shield and you got your motor
rahimi15 2 years ago
i prefer the term magnetic damper
girlsdrinkfeck 2 years ago
Does any1 really understand physics? i say no. anyway, wheres the working model? show us ur free energy machine working.
dajlrj 2 years ago 3
And this shield is made with what material????
Godarth 2 years ago
High magnetic permeability metal alloys such as Permalloy or Mu-metal are applicable as magnetic shielding.
ypsonar 2 years ago
i build this on a weel of my bike and works but i have to estimate better the distances because I go slow.. for now
jaaviiz45fanspire 2 years ago