7.)Build the ark for Noah? is Noah God or what? 8.) God said that it would be fire next time(read your bible) 8.)Sodom and gomorrah God's mistake or man's?9.)Why are you blaming God for mans decisions?10.)Lucifer is apart of a design, good and evil, God wants to see which you will choose. 11.)illness and disease is not of God but of satan. Are those disasters worse then being crucified and beaten to death? You are confused and wrong, hopefully your not bound for hell. God Bless!!
this video is very flawed, 1.) The fruit on the tree is symbolic of sex 2.)God didn't create the serpent, he created an angel who turned into a serpent., 3.)temptation exists but we don't have to submit. 4.)The Lord knew where Adam was, he said that to see if Adam would answer him because he was conscious of his own guilt. 5.)Nudity was the natural design and the only reason that you think it's weird is because of sin.6.) It was cain's decision to kill not God's, sin is of satan not of God.
3)I heard somewhere that the Hebrew metaphor for the tree of 'knowledge' is more about 'consciousness', or awareness of oneself and especially of one's death - something that sets us part from the rest of the animal kingdom. It makes way more sense. 'Adam' would mean 'mankind' and not one specific person. If correlated with theistic evolution (sort of), for instance, it would mean Homo sapiens (Adam) evolved the awareness capacity to invent god. That's my interpretation of things.
2)Of course, I'm basing this on the assumption that most other people also think that the literal interpretation of the bible is extremely ridiculous, but sadly it's not the case, and people have to waste time and effort with idiotic things such as this.
1)Though I think dprjones' videos are excellent, I think that a literal interpretation of the bible is so ridiculous that trying to debunk it is also ridiculous.
Disproving Adam and Eve is like disproving Mother Goose. It's an allegorical story that was never meant to be taken literally, probably not even by those who originally told it or those who first wrote it down.
It's simply embarrassing that there exists people in this modern day in developed countries that believe this is a literal story. Religion in the fundamentalist sense is nothing more than an excuse to be an idiot or to support ideologies that might otherwise be considered immoral.
I'm having a hard time understanding the allegory of the story without it still having immoral implications. And if we do take it in allegorical sense why was there a Jesus? Jesus was of Adam and atonement doesn't make sense without the original sin. What would Jesus be saving one from if not that? Without the fall happening why is there "sin" and how is it not gods fault for it being there in the first place? It seems no matter how you look at the no Christian will accept the implications.
what i find really hilarious is this could be a video done by a fanatical muslim.
they may see how the faults in other religions like christianity don't make any sense, but come to a screeching halt that can be heard miles away before ever daring to apply the same lines of logic to their own religion. and vice versa.
Literarilly, this video makes sense to the carnal man. There is no point to prove here you must all understand.The only reason u are keen to disprove God's existence is because HE is . No one is asking you to believe that God is real. just wait around, the end of your life is just round the cornere. If the vast majority of us are wrong then let it be our choice. but if you that have been deluded through too much analysis of issues are right so be it. leave us in peace. .
Thank you askegg! Christians, please watch and rewatch this. Share it with someone that is a believer, and see if you can apologize your way out of these "facts"that are in this book of fiction. Or will you just say " I can't explain, I just have faith!"....open your eyes!
then adam and eve sin and have incest just so they can reproduce,.Hey maybe it did happen,.incest can cause retardation,..maybe thats why retarded people only believe the story
So far you have done a good job pointing out scientific fact. I can see why DPRJones gets his videos flag. His is fucking raving mad. If you do not believe in any kind of god then Why is he blaming "A God". Being I pure non believer I guess I should stop myself from coming to this blog. I don't want to start talking like there is a god but I just don't like him cause he burns queers LOL. Beware some yt atheists are sick people.
DPR does not believe in a god. What he is doing is pointing out the massive character flaws God has according to the text many Christians hold up as being the only book you will ever need. Getting people to honestly admit the God of the Bible is a vicious, bumbling moron is just the first step.
You have to remember that Christians do the same thing you do. Breaking up for a religion is like a relationship breakdown. You break up but for many years the taste of god is on ones tongue. If all atheist distanced themselves from religion I believe they could do a better job convincing the rest how sane they are. Arguing about a non thing gets quite mad and pointless @ times.
I am far from religious but I think this video is totally out of context. 1)The narrator talks as if God exists but he is not happy with gods creation.
2) When god asks why Adam is hiding from him his is talking about Adams mind being closed to gods mind. IE Adam knows god can read his mind but he has blocked God so God is having to talk to him verbally. You run the same danger that creationists run when they miss quote science fact.
how does one mis-quote the bible? that's more like mis-equivocated a vague statement. which is also another fault of god. his instruction manual is taken so many ways.
scientific facts are not vague. that is why they're scientific facts, they come with determining information..unlike the crap in the bible. well it means this, well it means that. who knows? the shadow knows. and I know.
in the US they do. they're talking about the quran in places with more muslims, like europe.
the only thing that springs forth theistic beliefs is the holy books, and their preachers who try to relay to everyone else what they mean. if religious people would get on with their lives when it comes to atheists, then the atheists wouldn't be talking about the bible as much. try being an open atheist and see how hard it is, especially in areas more religious than what you're used to.
it's really simple. you're talking about atheists as if they have nothing better to do than to talk about the christian bible all the time. i'm saying you're wrong. first of all the only reason you hear about atheists at all is when they are challenging religious oppression. the rest of the time they're minding their business, a lot more people than you think are atheist. second, you're in, i presume, a christian majority nation. therefore, it gets dibs on getting the criticism.
Wrong. I have lived in the UK most of my life and most people just get on with there lives. The only time I have talked religion has been on the Internet. I would say a good 90% of UK people are non believers. The goverment are the only people that try to promote religions and it has had a negative effect. Most religous people are harmless if left alone. But some people on the Tube go out of there way to stir shit
Sure. When the last church closes and the last minister gets a real job. When the last tax break for parsonages is overturned, and when there are no more ministers being given undue power and privilege merely because they CLAIM, without evidence, to speak for a supernatural power.
When religion is merely an historical footnote, and the religious are viewed with the same level of distaste reserved for smokers and people who urinate in public.
The universe our world have always been in chaos. We have only been in existence for a tiny fraction of time. The knowledge that we have now is not knowledge are great grand folks had. Religion is part of human evolution. nothing is perfect and if you expect the world to be perfect them you are going to have a very unhappy life. Trying to change peoples way of thinking to your way of thinking is no different to what the fundies try to do.
It does not matter how you twist it you still expect too much from people and you have little understanding of human communication. You make the same mistake many people make on the net. You assume to many things just by peoples names. Well your name means nothing and is very forget able. I will not be thinking about you or religion all day LOL. I do not have a problem with religous people in my life.
third, the U.S. is a superpower that has around 300 million people. it is a very religious nation, and so your view that atheists can only think about the bible is skewed.
they think about it because people are using it to make laws with, they think about it because it's quoted in their face all the time, and plastered everywhere as some truth over science. and they think about it because most of the time, that's who they live with. as opposed to muslims. but they certainly get criticized too.
the fuck are you talking about? how does that have anything to do with me writing rubbish? how about you take some of your own advice and respond a little more coherently next time.
yeah, you're going to criticize me for criticizing others because my country sucks? it may suck, but at least I can spell, unlike your chav troll ass. good grief.
If you have religion in you then you talk like the Bible is the word of something that created everything. The bible was written by Jews for Jews. Maybe you should ask them about is. It's easy to mis- quote stories that have been translated 100's of times. Every time someone quotes from the bible it's prove some point. They should read the whole book and then make there mind up.
We have no contact or information about the true God. Yahweh is a false God and is the same source as demons and angels. One big show for the ignorant peasants with the same creeps playing all the roles.
Piscean Age = I believe
Aquarian Age = I know
We have been deceived for so long that we don't know up from down. That is coming to an end. Jesus is not coming but folks will get over it when they find the truth. Hey, it's not sin when I do it, said God. We live in a matrix but will get out.
the funny thing i find with Christians is that they feel that the universe is to complex to have happened by chance... but i disagree. the universe is to Complex for the god of the bible to have created it. especially if we go by the simplicity of the how the bible is. example: God good, FIRE bad!
There is no chance; it does not exist. Left to themselves, things become more disorganized and what we call creation is extremely organized. This is also called the law of entropy.
I really like this video. These are some of the most obvious problems with christianity, or theism; and were a big problem for me in my early years as a believer. The apologist would state that these arguments are immature, that these are questions for first year philosophy or theology, and not a good foundation to rest your disbelief in the christian god, or any god. To any of you who feel this way, i refer you to PZ's "a courtiers reply". thank you DPR, and askegg for mirroring.
7.)Build the ark for Noah? is Noah God or what? 8.) God said that it would be fire next time(read your bible) 8.)Sodom and gomorrah God's mistake or man's?9.)Why are you blaming God for mans decisions?10.)Lucifer is apart of a design, good and evil, God wants to see which you will choose. 11.)illness and disease is not of God but of satan. Are those disasters worse then being crucified and beaten to death? You are confused and wrong, hopefully your not bound for hell. God Bless!!
chica0616 1 year ago
@chica0616 7.)Build the ark for Noah? is Noah God or what?
What? 8.) God said that it would be fire next time(read your bible)
Evil prick. 8.)Sodom and gomorrah God's mistake or man's?
Two number 8s? God killed everyone, breaking his own commandment AGAIN.
9.)Why are you blaming God for mans decisions?
Why would you blame Microsoft for their programs?
askegg 1 year ago
@chica0616 10.)Lucifer is apart of a design, good and evil, God wants to see which you will choose.
And somehow has no clue which ones his creations will choose. 11.)illness and disease is not of God but of satan.
And Satan was created by.....?
"Are those disasters worse then being crucified and beaten to death?"
I can think of worse ways to die than crucifixion.
"You are confused and wrong, hopefully your not bound for hell."
Oh, I am scared now.
"God Bless!!"
Whatever.
askegg 1 year ago
this video is very flawed, 1.) The fruit on the tree is symbolic of sex 2.)God didn't create the serpent, he created an angel who turned into a serpent., 3.)temptation exists but we don't have to submit. 4.)The Lord knew where Adam was, he said that to see if Adam would answer him because he was conscious of his own guilt. 5.)Nudity was the natural design and the only reason that you think it's weird is because of sin.6.) It was cain's decision to kill not God's, sin is of satan not of God.
chica0616 1 year ago
@chica0616 1.) The fruit on the tree is symbolic of sex
The Bible does not say it is symbolic and many believers take it literally.
2.)God didn't create the serpent, he created an angel who turned into a serpent.
So your god is incompetent, or could not predict the results of his actions.
3.)temptation exists but we don't have to submit.
We are created to do so.
askegg 1 year ago
@chica0616 4.)The Lord knew where Adam was, he said that to see if Adam would answer him because he was conscious of his own guilt.
Surely a god would know if his creation would answer him.
5.)Nudity was the natural design and the only reason that you think it's weird is because of sin.
I don't think nudity is weird. Your hypothesis fails.
6.) It was cain's decision to kill not God's, sin is of satan not of God.
And Satan is of god - you said so above.
askegg 1 year ago
I'm not a Christian, but I pretty much know that God created Satan and evil for balance.
FinishDuck 1 year ago
Thanks to whoever broke down the bible from a logical point of view!
ApollosInsight 1 year ago
FREECHOICE IS THE REASON FOR THE TREE WE WERE GIVEN THE CHOICE YOU SOUND LIKE SATAN WHY GIVE THEM THE CHOICE YOUR WRONG
WHY DO YOU FEEL THREATEND BY CHRISTIANITY
hmmm2009Interesting 1 year ago
3)I heard somewhere that the Hebrew metaphor for the tree of 'knowledge' is more about 'consciousness', or awareness of oneself and especially of one's death - something that sets us part from the rest of the animal kingdom. It makes way more sense. 'Adam' would mean 'mankind' and not one specific person. If correlated with theistic evolution (sort of), for instance, it would mean Homo sapiens (Adam) evolved the awareness capacity to invent god. That's my interpretation of things.
xxSilverPhinxx 1 year ago
2)Of course, I'm basing this on the assumption that most other people also think that the literal interpretation of the bible is extremely ridiculous, but sadly it's not the case, and people have to waste time and effort with idiotic things such as this.
xxSilverPhinxx 1 year ago
1)Though I think dprjones' videos are excellent, I think that a literal interpretation of the bible is so ridiculous that trying to debunk it is also ridiculous.
xxSilverPhinxx 1 year ago
That's a tragic story, and possibly the inspiration for Genesis. Who know? They all seem to steal from each other.
askegg 2 years ago
Disproving Adam and Eve is like disproving Mother Goose. It's an allegorical story that was never meant to be taken literally, probably not even by those who originally told it or those who first wrote it down.
It's simply embarrassing that there exists people in this modern day in developed countries that believe this is a literal story. Religion in the fundamentalist sense is nothing more than an excuse to be an idiot or to support ideologies that might otherwise be considered immoral.
SeekerLancer 2 years ago
I'm having a hard time understanding the allegory of the story without it still having immoral implications. And if we do take it in allegorical sense why was there a Jesus? Jesus was of Adam and atonement doesn't make sense without the original sin. What would Jesus be saving one from if not that? Without the fall happening why is there "sin" and how is it not gods fault for it being there in the first place? It seems no matter how you look at the no Christian will accept the implications.
CriticalAtheist 2 years ago
The Apostle Paul believed in Adam. Paul mentions Adam about a half a dozen times in his letters.
Adam is also mentioned in Jesus' geneology.
I agree that the story is a fable but NT people believed it as Bible truth.
Ebal the Atheist
ebaltrace 2 years ago
DRP Jones always has excellent vids but thanx for the mirror Egg!
Krumbz2003 2 years ago
what i find really hilarious is this could be a video done by a fanatical muslim.
they may see how the faults in other religions like christianity don't make any sense, but come to a screeching halt that can be heard miles away before ever daring to apply the same lines of logic to their own religion. and vice versa.
Thrashaero 2 years ago
Literarilly, this video makes sense to the carnal man. There is no point to prove here you must all understand.The only reason u are keen to disprove God's existence is because HE is . No one is asking you to believe that God is real. just wait around, the end of your life is just round the cornere. If the vast majority of us are wrong then let it be our choice. but if you that have been deluded through too much analysis of issues are right so be it. leave us in peace. .
fomzee 2 years ago
Thank you askegg! Christians, please watch and rewatch this. Share it with someone that is a believer, and see if you can apologize your way out of these "facts"that are in this book of fiction. Or will you just say " I can't explain, I just have faith!"....open your eyes!
12TattooYou 2 years ago
Don't thanks me - thank DRP Jones.
askegg 2 years ago
This video is such a joke...
sablechicken 2 years ago
How so?
Which parts of it did you not agree with... and why?
Krumbz2003 2 years ago
then adam and eve sin and have incest just so they can reproduce,.Hey maybe it did happen,.incest can cause retardation,..maybe thats why retarded people only believe the story
puffadderbite 2 years ago
To claim that the god of the bible is loving is like claiming a rattle snake is affectionate or a porcupine cuddly. Gail Yonvadisi
Dwicker64 2 years ago
So far you have done a good job pointing out scientific fact. I can see why DPRJones gets his videos flag. His is fucking raving mad. If you do not believe in any kind of god then Why is he blaming "A God". Being I pure non believer I guess I should stop myself from coming to this blog. I don't want to start talking like there is a god but I just don't like him cause he burns queers LOL. Beware some yt atheists are sick people.
MicrosoftsourceCode 2 years ago
DPR does not believe in a god. What he is doing is pointing out the massive character flaws God has according to the text many Christians hold up as being the only book you will ever need. Getting people to honestly admit the God of the Bible is a vicious, bumbling moron is just the first step.
askegg 2 years ago
You have to remember that Christians do the same thing you do. Breaking up for a religion is like a relationship breakdown. You break up but for many years the taste of god is on ones tongue. If all atheist distanced themselves from religion I believe they could do a better job convincing the rest how sane they are. Arguing about a non thing gets quite mad and pointless @ times.
MicrosoftsourceCode 2 years ago
I am far from religious but I think this video is totally out of context. 1)The narrator talks as if God exists but he is not happy with gods creation.
2) When god asks why Adam is hiding from him his is talking about Adams mind being closed to gods mind. IE Adam knows god can read his mind but he has blocked God so God is having to talk to him verbally. You run the same danger that creationists run when they miss quote science fact.
MicrosoftsourceCode 2 years ago
God's omnipotent power is blocked by his creation's closed mind?
askegg 2 years ago
God's omnipotentence is blocked by his creation's closed mind?
Celticking36 2 years ago
how does one mis-quote the bible? that's more like mis-equivocated a vague statement. which is also another fault of god. his instruction manual is taken so many ways.
scientific facts are not vague. that is why they're scientific facts, they come with determining information..unlike the crap in the bible. well it means this, well it means that. who knows? the shadow knows. and I know.
Thrashaero 2 years ago
Ever thought of just leaving the Bible alone and getting on with life. Seems to me some atheists talk more bible then Christians.
MicrosoftsourceCode 2 years ago
in the US they do. they're talking about the quran in places with more muslims, like europe.
the only thing that springs forth theistic beliefs is the holy books, and their preachers who try to relay to everyone else what they mean. if religious people would get on with their lives when it comes to atheists, then the atheists wouldn't be talking about the bible as much. try being an open atheist and see how hard it is, especially in areas more religious than what you're used to.
Thrashaero 2 years ago
I am sorry but your comment made no sense to me.
MicrosoftsourceCode 2 years ago
it's really simple. you're talking about atheists as if they have nothing better to do than to talk about the christian bible all the time. i'm saying you're wrong. first of all the only reason you hear about atheists at all is when they are challenging religious oppression. the rest of the time they're minding their business, a lot more people than you think are atheist. second, you're in, i presume, a christian majority nation. therefore, it gets dibs on getting the criticism.
Thrashaero 2 years ago
Wrong. I have lived in the UK most of my life and most people just get on with there lives. The only time I have talked religion has been on the Internet. I would say a good 90% of UK people are non believers. The goverment are the only people that try to promote religions and it has had a negative effect. Most religous people are harmless if left alone. But some people on the Tube go out of there way to stir shit
MicrosoftsourceCode 2 years ago
If you live in the UK, then religion has already been sneaking up on you. Sharia law is now being endorsed by the government there.
It's best to pay attention whenever theocracy tries to make a power grab.
Raptor302 2 years ago
Sure. When the last church closes and the last minister gets a real job. When the last tax break for parsonages is overturned, and when there are no more ministers being given undue power and privilege merely because they CLAIM, without evidence, to speak for a supernatural power.
When religion is merely an historical footnote, and the religious are viewed with the same level of distaste reserved for smokers and people who urinate in public.
Until then, work to do.
middlekk 2 years ago 4
The universe our world have always been in chaos. We have only been in existence for a tiny fraction of time. The knowledge that we have now is not knowledge are great grand folks had. Religion is part of human evolution. nothing is perfect and if you expect the world to be perfect them you are going to have a very unhappy life. Trying to change peoples way of thinking to your way of thinking is no different to what the fundies try to do.
MicrosoftsourceCode 2 years ago
Nice non-sequitur.
I was talking about why we need to oppose the vile influence of religion at every instance.
You pop in with nonsense about a "perfect" world. Who EVER said that?
About the type of logic I'd expect from someone with "Microsoft" in his user name.
middlekk 2 years ago
It does not matter how you twist it you still expect too much from people and you have little understanding of human communication. You make the same mistake many people make on the net. You assume to many things just by peoples names. Well your name means nothing and is very forget able. I will not be thinking about you or religion all day LOL. I do not have a problem with religous people in my life.
MicrosoftsourceCode 2 years ago
Well, no matter how you twist it, here you are complaining about how people are arguing against religion.
Methinks I smell a troll.
middlekk 2 years ago
No, the world is not 'perfect', and never will be 'perfect', but you don't get closer to perfection by abstaining from criticism.
Raptor302 2 years ago
third, the U.S. is a superpower that has around 300 million people. it is a very religious nation, and so your view that atheists can only think about the bible is skewed.
they think about it because people are using it to make laws with, they think about it because it's quoted in their face all the time, and plastered everywhere as some truth over science. and they think about it because most of the time, that's who they live with. as opposed to muslims. but they certainly get criticized too.
Thrashaero 2 years ago
Thrashaero dont write rubbish.
The new charles Darwin film isnt being shown in USA because it is thought to be to risky among you nuters in USA who dont listen to reason.
USArCOWARDS 2 years ago
the fuck are you talking about? how does that have anything to do with me writing rubbish? how about you take some of your own advice and respond a little more coherently next time.
Thrashaero 2 years ago
Its very simply.
You ae criizing others while your own country is a shithole full of vermin which doesnt listen to any reason.
USArCOWARDS 2 years ago
LOL
yeah, you're going to criticize me for criticizing others because my country sucks? it may suck, but at least I can spell, unlike your chav troll ass. good grief.
Thrashaero 2 years ago
Theres nothing wrong with my spelling.
Clearly youve mistaken typing for for spelling.
Just like your country mistook bombing schools and hospitals killing children in Afghanistan as war.
USArCOWARDS 2 years ago
?????
that doesn't warrant a serious response.
just a clue to others..
the idiocracy isn't coming, it's definitely already here.
Thrashaero 2 years ago
If you have religion in you then you talk like the Bible is the word of something that created everything. The bible was written by Jews for Jews. Maybe you should ask them about is. It's easy to mis- quote stories that have been translated 100's of times. Every time someone quotes from the bible it's prove some point. They should read the whole book and then make there mind up.
MicrosoftsourceCode 2 years ago
We have no contact or information about the true God. Yahweh is a false God and is the same source as demons and angels. One big show for the ignorant peasants with the same creeps playing all the roles.
Piscean Age = I believe
Aquarian Age = I know
We have been deceived for so long that we don't know up from down. That is coming to an end. Jesus is not coming but folks will get over it when they find the truth. Hey, it's not sin when I do it, said God. We live in a matrix but will get out.
rollsthepaul 2 years ago
the funny thing i find with Christians is that they feel that the universe is to complex to have happened by chance... but i disagree. the universe is to Complex for the god of the bible to have created it. especially if we go by the simplicity of the how the bible is. example: God good, FIRE bad!
Persondudeguy 2 years ago
There is no chance; it does not exist. Left to themselves, things become more disorganized and what we call creation is extremely organized. This is also called the law of entropy.
rollsthepaul 2 years ago
well done!!
ginmortal1 2 years ago
Lucifer was the first free thinker.
hpufo 2 years ago
Lucifer is fictional.
Pooknottin 2 years ago
True, but if he was real he would be the first of God's creations to wish for freedom. Naturally, God punishes him for this as that's his nature.
askegg 2 years ago
No shit Sherlock!
hpufo 2 years ago
God, you're fired....
Raptor302 2 years ago 4
GAAAH!!! nasty mental flash... In future heaven Nephilimfree sucking gods wanger
-"OM NOM NOM NOM must suck god cockawanger!! you'll like me god, I'm a swallow guy!!"
GEEZ!!! why did I bring these upon others!?!? AGAAAH!!
Paxmax 2 years ago
In-fucking-deed DPRjones!
Great mirror ASkegg !!
Paxmax 2 years ago
nephilimfree naked?
fuck it
i'll go to hell with a smile on my face
redFISTofEUROPE 2 years ago 3
That was nearly my exact thought...... I'd rather boil my head than see that guy in the nude.
SavvyDrifter 2 years ago
Forever appeasing a bully. Theist must really hate themselves to wish for that.
billythefifer 2 years ago
Eternity with Yokeup naked .............shudder
cavejourney 2 years ago
I really like this video. These are some of the most obvious problems with christianity, or theism; and were a big problem for me in my early years as a believer. The apologist would state that these arguments are immature, that these are questions for first year philosophy or theology, and not a good foundation to rest your disbelief in the christian god, or any god. To any of you who feel this way, i refer you to PZ's "a courtiers reply". thank you DPR, and askegg for mirroring.
amsterstorm 2 years ago
This is a mirror of DPRJones latest video. Expertly executed, mate :)
askegg 2 years ago