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  • Thousands of acres of land just burned to the ground in Texas. No big deal right? It was in an affluent vacation area where people have 1 million dollar homes. Rich people. Elitist's. Teabaggers and Repubs. Why didn't the fire department put them out? Because Perry cut funding for volunteer fire departments and there was nobody around to fight them. You voted for it, you got it!

  • We need to get out of the US before it drags us down with them

  • We need to get out of the US before it deags us down with them

    

  • Washington doesn't appreciate talk of secession, but it's their own fault that secessionist movements are growing. The 10th Amendment has to be respected: let each state decide whether abortion, handguns, school prayer, marijuana, and gay marriage will be permitted, or not. If Texas is too rigid for you, move to California. If California is too free-spirited, move to Texas. If the states' rights continue to be usurped by a power-hungry Federal government a second American civil war is certain.

  • The feds are out of control and they have punched a gaping hole in the hull of the USS America. I actually hope that Texas secedes, then maybe that will wake everyone up and give the rest of the states the kick in the ass that they need to get with the program, then maybe somehow we can find a lifeboat.

  • When you are successful, maybe you can help us here in the N.W. to become the Republic of Cascadia. You know give us a few pointers.

  • texas is gay

  • @sydmarissa you say that then wonder why we want to leave the union

    im amazed at yankees stupidity

    when we leave you realize we take 11% of americas military

    60% of americas home supplied oil and 24 million of americas citizens

    Texas is the ONLY state that has a stable economy that is GROWING instead of declineing

    yeah good luck when were gone :)

    hope you have fun paying 6 dollars a gallon

  • @sydmarissa Then you can go down with the rest of the USA under the Liberal Regeme

  • Friends...Thomas Jefferson put our salvation into the Declaration:

    "when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."

    It is our right. It is our duty. The time is now...

  • I don't care if Obama's stripped either, but when you have a government that starts prosecuting our military using the excuse it's for INTERNATIONAL LAW , for keeping the country safe, and bringing 100,000's of Gaza residents here to live, along with the rest of the terrorists, it's time to bail. I just pray Texas will really get out - and soon.

  • RGMerkel, wouldn't it be funny if we needed a passport to get to Missouri, or you to come here? lol Well not really, but everytime I watch C-Span, I'm ready to bail out on the lot of them! Merry Christmas.

  • I'd love to see Texas tell the Government to go fuck themselves and secede. I'd just hope my home state Missouri and others would fallow Texas's lead! If anything. I could always move to Texas!

  • Texas has no other alternative other than to secede. We have been shoved into the corner by socialism and after the Treaty is signed in December by the prez we will no longer have any Constitutional rights. Not to mention the healthcare that has been shoved down our throats. Don't get me wrong I love America all of it. But I cannot stand the thought of my children living under a socialist dictator!

  • Hell, my ancestors fought at San Jacinto! I am ready!

  • Wow, you Texans sure know how to make a guy feel welcome! I'd move there tomorrow if I lived anywhere but Arizona. Mostly because I have a darn good job here, but I'll leave it all behind and drag the missus and the 3 boys if you all go independent! Thanks for the invite!

  • All I want to know is will I be allowed to LEGALLY immigrate to the new Republic of Texas and bring my firearms collection and gunsmithing tools to begin a new free life there?

  • there are 8 guns for every man woman and child in the state of texas, bring your guns, your wife and kids, we would love to have you. thats just my opinion.

  • i wont argue with that.

  • Are you guys gonna let us disgruntled New Yorker's come over or are borders gettin shut from the Union permanently...

    cause a lot of people are gonna wanna join in=]

  • come here now?

  • Those who threaten violence against an independent Texas are NOT PEOPLE OF FREEDOM. Freedom means the right to walk out the door even if the other party does not like it. We may not like it if Texas becomes independent but we have to accept it if it does. If the government tries to use force against the people then it is NOT A GOVERNMENT OF FREEDOM and therefore will be overthrown. Let the people of Texas decide whether to be independent or not, but most importantly let FREEDOM ring.

  • Does that mean you supported the Confederacy?

  • I would have, they had a very legitimate reason for seceding, taxes skyrocketed, bankruptcy was run amuck, and everytime they turned to the northern states for relief from all of it, they just got worse conditions.

    And before you start saying that I support slavery, I don't. slavery didn't even become an issue of the "civil war" until half way through.

  • wararasa, that is exactly what Lincoln did at the outset of the civil war. If you haven't seen the movie God's and Generals you need to. Great depictionof the reasons the south fought. If Texas does secede I'm moving there. Im in Ark but I know all the origonal southern states would want to join up along with NM, Mo, Ky, WV this time. If the $ collapses within 2 years we may just see Texas do it. Get ready because I think it's gonna happen.

  • NM was part of TEXAS to begin with (as well as part of Colorado and Wyoming)

    MO was a Confederate state, they voted for secession, but the governor was a traitor and had the state legislature arrested

    KY had two state governments, one southern

    WV was originally part of the state of Virginia

    I agree with you, just a correction

    GOD BLESS TEXAS

  • danwlewis, your right...I'm a civil war history buff and all of my ancestors fought for the south. I've always heard the south shall rise again and it might just come true at the current pace. The only difference would be the origonal US constitution would be used with even further limits on the power of a central government just to make sure what has happened in the US never happens again. Power to the people and the states!!!!

  • more than 50% of us military believes in the right to secede. More than 1 out of every 10 us soldiers are from texas. if texas takes the peaceful steps of electimng nationalists and holding an election on secession. the us would be forced to let texas go. look at the other modern cases of secession. the soviet states were forced to let go. and the way the us economy is headed.the us in 20 years will economically resemble the soviet union of the late 80s. especially if socialism keeps spreading

  • thats right, im with you. mr bowden. rock on.

  • why would we be a 3rd world country?

    we got everything all other states put together have. actually it would make the US a third world country, which is whats happening to the US as we speak, so it makes perfect sence to secede, "united we stand divided we fall" right now we are falling. have you read the news paper lately?

  • texas has the 11th largest economy on the planet. with multiple ports and a long coast line. also, trade with central and south america would be forced to come thru texas. there is no way texas would be a 3rd world nation. also, texas would have us constitutionalist ideals and therfore would not get itself entangled in international affairs the way imperialist united states does. this means alot less money being spent on wars that dont work and more money for domestic issues

  • thats right captain we have oil, farmland, the 2nd largest port in the country, a bordering country, and coastline and assload of it. we never really became a full member of the union after the civil war we can drop out at anytime we choose and be a republic again and im looking forward to it be wise legalize.....peace.

  • Also, remember that the second you secede, you'll be an instant third world country. I need to remember though who I am talking to.... The crazies

  • Texas has the worlds11th largest economy. with todays technology and the US's dependence on central and south american products which would be forced to come thru texas... Texas would have a Ron paul/libertarian/constitutiona­list approach to it political affairs. meaning, it would not spend money on federal programs that dont work or un-needed wars. this means all the money texas brings in would be spent on the domestic side. its not crazy to hold the same values as the founding fathers of USA

  • I actually do NOT want war. That is why I posted on this video. These fanatical, senseless, uneducated, Texans (The secessionists are a minority, so I'm not implying every Texan is like this) are the ones who do. Wanting to secede is asking for war (look what happened in the Civil War.

    You guys need to get your collective heads out of your asses and think. You only support secession because we have a black president. I didn't see this movement pop up when Bill Clinton was president...

  • prdrums77, the state of Vermont also has a secession movement afoot and I don't think you would call them a "conservative" state. The fact is this is not about the skin color of the president (I could care less if he were pink with green polkadots). This is about an overbearing fascist gov. in DC regulating our freedoms out of existance and taxing us to the point of financial ruin along with unconstitutional powers it has given itself. I will not be a puppet of the state.

  • Our country wasn't in ruin when clinton was president. I don't care if the president is pink with racing stripes so long as the feds aren't screwing us.

  • Will the lost white brother come from the east or the west? Will the true white brother from the east be killed before he can surface? I hope not! If he is many more will die! that one is Hopi. They also have the same calendar as the Mayan. When it is all said and done the evil spirit of greed will be wiped out. 2012 is real, do not help usher in violence. The world can make the transition with little loss of life. You will lose no matter what it has been told over and over again.

  • The lines will be drawn very differently than they want. They will lose everything. It is fueled by greed. The will be whipped out. This movement has the spirit of many past Texas evils. Texas by its self could not defend its self from a Cherokee Nation. They are many evil spirits that the Cherokee want to see defeated here. I hope this becomes a spiritual war and not a hot one. I really want to see the least amount of death and destruction as possible. Their spirit will be kicked off this land.

  • I hope you guys know that when there's a civil war, and you lose, YOU will be the the ones committing treason.

  • ignorant. Nobody wants war but YOU. And the treason is only to the oligarchy who controls us. Fascist DC. Which we the people put in place to protect us.

  • The beginning isn't true, we made China our hostage, we support their economy as long as they prop up our dollar by buying treasury notes, if they quite buying treasury notes our dollar will lose it's value and China's economy will crash since we will no longer have the money to import goods produced there. During which timespan saving and industry growth would happen here under those circumstances.

  • no, actually as of mid 2008, china can buy us. They refuse to because of our economic dependence on eachother. However, we do have to listen to them now more than ever.

  • im a texan im for seceding from the union but @ 1:40 are you trying to indicate texas would be better if we lived under anarchy? because under anarchy society turns into tribal warfare people will want to control other people anarchy doesnt work. see we are leaving the union because its our contitutional right because the constitution works. so to say that we want to uphold the constitution then get our independence from it only to throw it away to anarchy is insane

  • That's not what the video is saying at all. It's defining anarchy to show that anarchy is not what we promote.

  • Copy this to your profile if you support Texas independence and the TLF:

    I had a wonderous vision of my Homeland dear, and all of Texas sons and daughters we were all assembled there. From the oppressive powers of tyrany Her Lonestar had been freed. Through the years through blood and tears they'd strugled for all to see now tell of how the TLF will set their nation free!

  • When it all comes down, just make sure you stay the fuck out!

  • Correction: Anarchy does not mean a society without law.

    It simply means without rulers, i.e. a free society. It means society without the state as an institution. It does not mean without law or governance.

    Anarchists reject the absurd proposition that a coercive monopoly such as the state has any legitimacy. Think of it as secession taken to it's limit - forming a society of voluntary associations resting on individual sovereignty.

  • Who sets the rules then. The gang with the biggest guns?

    You've contradicted yourself. "It simply means without rulers," then you say, "It does not mean without law or governance". How can you have law and governence without rulers? There has to be a governing body. Sounds like the old completely fallible "communist ideology" to me.

  • "Who sets the rules then. The gang with the biggest guns?"

    No. That's how states work. A free society works by voluntary association, negotiation between groups, etc. Think of the international "order". It is anarchistic. Each group claims sovereignty yet there is "international law", agreements, treaties, persuasion, diplomacy, force when necessary.

    "How can you have law and governence without rulers?"

    How can you have law and governance in your church or whatever clubs you belong to?

  • "It is anarchistic. Each group claims sovereignty yet there is "international law", agreements, treaties, persuasion, diplomacy, force when necessary."

    Don't see how this is anarchistic. Are you talking of individual tribal social structures?

    "How can you have law and governance in your church or whatever clubs you belong to?"

    Those churches and clubs have leaders with a heirarchy.

  • Last I checked texas had a government anyway. We don't need a small group of other humans telling us how to live our lives.

  • Yes, Texas has a gov't, but it's a lot smaller than the feds! So they do less damage overall, and secession is a great way to illustrate the principle of sovereignty - even if it is still expressed in terms of a collective.

    One need only posit further secessions to begin to understand what a free society might look like. The more power devolves from centralized control, the better off we will be.

  • Each state is a govt in a of itself but that has been lost in the mix with the fed govt growing beyond its constituitional bounds. USA is not a republic or an empire, its a federation of states. That's why we have states rights. The fed govt is an agent of the states to foreign powers, the states are no an agent of the feds. Our fed govt has been growing at a staggering rate for the the last few decades. The concerning thing is that many Americans consider the feds to be their ultimate govt.

  • I agree, but we need to do something about this multi-billion dollar deficit owed...to whom?

  • TREASON!!!!

  • This is not a joke, FoShizzle951. Are you willing to fight for you freedom to say the things that you do or do you rely on the blood of others? We're being labeled at this moment by the United States government as being "right wing extremenists". I'm sure that the British government did the same when our fore fathers won our indepence then.

  • You're a treasonous bastard.

  • I won't insult you, Fo, the way that you have done others in this forum. I don't want Texas secession at this point. That will be a last resort. But I will not stand by silently while this govt tries to dig its claws into our free market system. This govt has trampled on the US Constitution by buying into major companies with "bale out" and TARP money provided by the hard working citizens of this great country. Obama's firing of the CEO of GM was unconstitutional. Get out of our free market!

  • I will drive my hunters blade into the scrotum of rebel Texan scum.

  • It's all about race. They are mad because a Black man is head of the government and they use euphemism to cover up their true agenda.

  • Texas should be wiped off the face of the earth!. Fuck secessionist!!

  • The U.S. should bomb and NUKE Texas back into the Stone Age.

    Fuck rebel Texan scum!!!!

  • Stupid american idiot, chinese work for about $200 per month. Do you wanna earn $200?

  • as long as perry is still in office succession is a long shot

  • "God bless Jeff Davis and pass the ammo" Im in! Oh youre missing one thing in the vid. A U.S. flag, made in china.

  • Yes. Sign me up!!!

  • i vote yes, however i am not currently a ressident of texas but how can i help. just send me a passport when you succede

  • 803honda, I like the way government educated geniuses think they are free in this corrupt federal union. Their vocabulary is so large they have to revert to profanity. Why do they want to force us in their union? Why doesn't the union build an iron curtain around the states? I thought freedom meant waydownNMway and New Mexico could stay in the Union, while me and you and South Carolina could could leave.

  • You have the freedom to leave the United States, or "our union," as you refer to it, you uneducated inbred!

    "while me and you and South Carolina could could leave"

    Yes, please! Move to Saudi Arabia! Cuba! Anywhere but here! Americans can't bear to support your lazy, backward, 10-kid-having un-American ways anymore!

  • I am an old man with bad eye sight, smart ass. The states are sovereign. if the majority of citizens in a state want to leave the union, we have that right. You are right, United States, that's plural, states. We are a federation of independent states, a union. Read the articles of confederations, the constitution.

    I will compare my education, assets, and accomplishes with you, anytime.

  • I'm pretty sure I know more about the Constitution and American history than you do, dipshit. You may "have the right," but a 2% fringe doesn't exactly constitute a "willing population" of state residents who want to secede. Seriously. If you hate America so much, just leave.

  • yeah, hes quite the intellectual! he called me a mongoloid cause I had a SC Palmetto flag on my page when he came by it to leave some hateful remarks. lol.

    apparently freedom means wiretappin and killin Iraqis and tradin liberty for temporary protection from imaginary terrorist.

    oh, and makin sure SC dont offer Christian licence plates to folks who want them.

    the feds said last week we cant have "I Believe" on our plates. meanwhile their fake paper money says "In God We Trust"

  • 803honda -- you really need to learn English if you want to stay in the United States. Oh that's right, I forgot. You're a terrorist.

  • Do you all remember what happened to your like-minded anti-American traitor Timothy McVeigh? Yeah. He's dead now.

  • "apparently freedom means wiretappin and killin Iraqis and tradin liberty for temporary protection from imaginary terrorist."

    You can thank your terrorist friends in the Republican Party for that. WiretappinG is unconstitutional. Not that you care about the Constitution or anything. I'm sure you've never read it, being un-American and all.

  • those terrorist and fake concervatives in the republican party are not my friends! i only support two republicans. that would be Texas senator Ron Paul and my governor Mark Sanford. and really they both hate the republican party and there way of doing things and the feeling is mutual.

    if you support the feds then u must support emperor bush cause they say if you dont your unpatriotic and "un-american"

  • I swear to defend, preserve and protect the Constitution, so help me GOD. Obama

    That will be the day.

    It is funny, people who want the government to use the Constitution become terrorists. Didn't somebody call Patrick Henry a terrorist. waydown is a product of a brainwashed government dumbing down education. He thinks he is so smart but obviously he has never read the Constitution.

  • Fuck Texas, by the way. I think that definitely needs to be said. Fuck Texas. Buncha cheap honky faggots.

  • Do you think that we are close to secession, or must it even get worse before it happens?

  • Things shouldn't get worse to declare independence from the Union. However, sadly enough it's going to take that to get people to pay attention. The best time to secede isn't when things are at the worst.

  • Yeah....the time to separate is before the ship completely sinks.

    Thanks for your comments and keep up the great work.

  • You are extremely un-American. Please just leave this country now.

  • THERE IS NO UNITY IN A FORCED UNION!!!

  • No one is "forcing" you to stay in my country. If you don't like it, please get out. Move to Saudi Arabia or something.

    The comforting thing to real Americans like myself is that you people are on the extreme fringe and no one takes you seriously, not even the people in your state. You'd have to be retarded to think that any state is going to secede!

  • your the one that needs to stay out of my country!(South Carolina). usa is not a country! it is a union held togeather at gunpoint. none of the countrys in europe quit bein countrys when they joined the european union. apparently youve never been to SC. for every fed flag you will see 10 SC or CSA flags! recent study shows that over 20% of my people publicly say they want out now. of the rest many are undecided or wary of federal percecution. numbers are actually higher than they were in 1770s!

  • South Carolina is a state. Have you passed kindergarten yet, 803honda? The European Union is hardly comparable to the COUNTRY of the United States, dimwit. Well if 20 percent of "your people" want out, then you all can GET OUT (leave, as in move). No one's forcing your ignorant inbred ass to stay here in MY COUNTRY. Get out!

  • we were an independent country before we VOLINTERED to join your union with the understanding that we may secede at any time.

    its funny how you resort to callin us inbred. actually i was at the top of my class in school. your childish insults hurt you more than they hurt me.

    the usa will not survive as a centralist empire.

    all imperial nations throughout history have fallen eventually. it happened in rome, britan, germany, russia, japan, and many other places and its gonna happen here!

  • "we were an independent country"

    Wow you must be REALLY OLD.

    "top of my class"

    Finishing at the top of the special-people "class" where you live is no small accomplishment. Bravo.

  • you really should crack open a South Carolina history book before you open your brainwashed mouth talkin bout thinks you know nothin about!

  • You should really crack open a "How to speak/write English" book before you open your retarded mouth, bitch!

  • we will speak and write however we want. you have no right to dictate how we conduct ourselves.

    do you talk to your mother like that?

  • so what language do they speak in your imaginary "country" of South Carolina?

  • now your just being childish

  • now "you're" just being childish, you mean, child.

  • "ohhh. look at meee. i speak perfect english. im so mutch better than you."

    you have no true argument against secession so you resort to childish namecallin and pickin on spellin errors.

    get a life dude.

    or at least an intellegent argument

  • "you have no true argument against secession"

    Being on the extreme fringe of nutjobs, you're not exactly likely to secede because you don't have any support. Other than that inconvenient little fact, my argument is that if you hate your country so much, you should just leave.

  • And it's not exactly mature to make fun of me for knowing the English language. I mean, did they not have schools back when you were growing up?

  • Back when South Carolina was a "country?" ROFL

  • OK so we've established the fact that you have about a fifth-grade-level education. Now tell me, where did you get this ridiculous idea about secession, child brain?

  • im not gonna waste any more time responding to your baseless insults which are a result of your yankee brainwashing.

    please take your temper-tantrum somewhere else.

    go watch a video you actually enjoy.

    youll be more relaxed and youll live longer.

    take a nap and dream of your forced union forever fantasy.

  • If anyone has a fantasy, it's the world you think you're living in, buddy. Have fun trying to secede. I'll be laughing at you when your little Tim McVeigh-wannabe plans fail and you go to prison!

  • waydownNMway

    Why don't you come down to Texas and talk shit you internet "badass". Do you even know history at all? Fuckface, The Republic of Texas was Independent for about a decade. Being part of the "Union" has fucked up our state; maybe the Fed Gov't can reimburse us for all of the $ the illegals are draining our state. Let Texans take care of ourselves and our borders.

  • Amazing how tough he is behind the keyboard. He wouldn't last 5 minutes in a Texas nightclub before someone sent him back to NM with a good ole Texas Ass Whoopin!

  • Even the fire ants will kick your ass in Texas, I know they kicked mine.

  • p.s. people wouldn't catch on to the fact that you are a mongoloid so quickly if you would just make an attempt to learn English.

  • People in South Carolina sure aren't very bright ... Maybe y'all should just pack up your bags and get out of this country, after all!

  • You know what's really childish? Sitting around talking about "secession" when you should be finishing up your GED and getting a job! Contribute something to society for once, maybe?

  • i got my diploma and a great high payin job workin with my hands. I contribute to society every chance i get. just not your centralist yankee society. when my people need help i am there. I would give the shirt off my back to my Carolina brethren.

  • So they actually hired you at Arby's? That manager should be fired ...

  • Round up some of your like-minded "brethren" and we'll set ya' on a ship on out of here!

  • Is it the meth or just bad genes that cause the mindless fringe element in the South to think that secession is a reasonable option and an actual possibility? Like I said, if you don't want to live in the United States, no one is forcing you.

  • You really are un-American. Are you an illegal immigrant or something?

  • Anyone who thinks South Carolina or Texas could survive on their own is fucking delusional.

  • Secession is treason, meaning that you all are TRAITORS TO AMERICA.

  • 803honda -- Have you received your deportation paperwork yet? You're off to Saudi Arabia!

  • you ARE racist. Your posts will be deleted now. Take your hatred elsewhere.

  • Hey creathavok,

    Your responses are hateful and against what Texas Nationalists stand for. You are free to have your opinion...everyone is. However, the movement includes ALL Texans...regardless of their race, gender or religion. The only reason I'm leaving this comment on this page is to show any viewer that your response and hatred does not represent what this movement is about. It's about Texas Independence, not hatred.

  • Why is china a reason to secede but other wise yes I would vote for Texas to become independent. Our economy would be better off without other states bringing us down. We would need to have close relations with the USA and not completely shut down the border but secure it and regulate it. Mexico provides us with a very hard working people and they are vital to our economy.

  • Hey dlf09,

    China isn't the reason Texas should declare independence, the US. After the war years ago, Japan stated that they'd never attack America from the outside, but rather from the inside. America laughed. Now it's Japan, China, and India who own more of America than America does. The video wasn't basing the reason on China, but rather to pick a subject to make people think.

  • Great video, I hope Texas make Secession.

    But remember that your enemy is the Federal Governemnt and not China...

  • Thanks Philbox17.

    The purpose of the video is to remind people why we're in the situation we're in today. America's financial crises aren't because of Chine or India, it's because the American government seems to think that the only answer is to borrow more and more money from China. The only answer for cheap labor is to take jobs offshore. If China wanted to, they could take American down in a second...just just haven't done so....yet.

    Thanks for the comment!

  • Rock on. As a Texan, I totally back this up.

    I'd love an independent Texas. The Union is bringing us down.

  • Hmm...you're probably right GaGirlie, except that TX is the only state with the right to secede built into their state constitution.

  • If one state makes the first move, I bet several others will follow.

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