MC5 Sonic Revolution Documentary clip

[Rikitocker]

Wayne is a sweetheart ... so was Fred ... drugs fuck up so many peoples dreams, if only they could see it before they get going - imagine what the 5 might have been?

[marathonTmatt]

MC5 were pioneers!

[whitemanik1]

YOU WILL NEVER FIND THE BEST BANDS THROUGH THE BIG RECORD COMPANIES AND MYSPACE ADVERTISEMENTS...THE BEST BANDS NEVER COMPROMISE THEIR MUSIC. LONG LIVE THE MC5!

[cinesimonj]

@whitemanik1 There's no such things as 'the best bands'.

What's more, given that all musicians, great or not great, are human and fallible, of course some will sign to big companies. That may ruin them, it may not.

[rubbersole79]

They gave birth to Hard Rock. It's just that much about it.

[cavemanfarts]

These guys are part of history.

[psychodamned]

Dave Vanian is God : )

[endofsomething]

@psychodamned Saw him live last year and he was incredible. Just gets better with age.

[BenderWA]

This looks awesome! Where is the rest of it on the Internet for free?!

[badluckcity]

WHERE can I see the full doc?!?!

[Substantive64]

Freedom,schmeedom. The Panthers were nothing but selfish ,drinking and drugging THUGS. Eldridge Cleaver ,in his last months as he was dying,admitted he was glad they failed,because "there would have been a blood bath". Any of those youth back then that thought all that Panther shit, Black or White, would "free" them, was as dumb as they come. Same for all Leftist radicals from that era, unfortunately still alive, that are still able to PT Barnum today's youth.

[OdysseyLoungeA2]

@Substantive64 --Hey, "They taught ya in school about freedom (but) when ya tried to be free they never let ya"--It's as simple (and complicated) as that!!!

[endofsomething]

@Substantive64 Huey Newton would eat you and spit you out in a debate, my friend. Perhaps an MC5 thread, populated by smarter, cooler people than yourself wasn't the place to spread your right wing bullshit. Cleaver, FYI was well gone from his ideals by the time he died. The panthers weren't thugs, they were honest men defending their neighborhood from racist police.

[Substantive64]

@endofsomething

Just read any of David Horowitz's writings, in "Radical Son" and "Destructive geberation" among others. He knew them up close. Read about Betty Van Patter.

[endofsomething]

@Substantive64 Read Huey P. Newton. The guy who started the damn thing. We could trade lists all day and get nowhere. A lot of negative shit happened because of cynicism and complacency and a system that is based on fear as opposed to love, but we are overdue a revolution and one will eventually come. My recommendation, read 'Ordinary Person's guide to Empire' by Arundhati Roy. I honestly wish you peace and all the best. Freedom is never a word to take lightly, do you have it under capitalism?

[SonofThor73]

Nice! The Hellacopters are on this too!

[dcarr84]

I hate to say this but MC5 were way cooler the FAB4. Way cooler.How come the 5 haven't been inducted to the R+R hall of fame?

[RollingStone000]

@dcarr84 Because the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame is a bull shit concept. I'll have even more respect for them if they never get inducted.

[CrazyLeiFeng]

Drugs and alcoholism are not diseases. Those are choices.

[catshitty]

Who is singing "let me try," in the end of this video?

[endofsomething]

If you don't like MC5. You don't like rock n roll. That simple.

[suzesrc]

@endofsomething amen! you missed the whole message if you dont

[endofsomething]

@suzesrc Yeah! Glad there are some rockers still out there, though we are a dying breed it seems...

[emilyFTW]

only because true testimonials two hours long

[emilyFTW]

true testimonial = soo much better

[kidcalabria]

The obvious problem with this clip is that it contains no MC5 music. Any chance of seeing the rest of this documentary?

And also, who did that 45 single, late '70s, with "Free Wayne Kramer" on it? Was it Fred Sonic Smith's band or some Punk Rock band? I can't remember...but ironic that while some people considered him an inspiration & were trying to get him out of jail Kramer 'felt bitter' and hated them!!! I'm sure he's changed his mind now...

[RamonePinhead]

The correct answer is...

The Patti Smith Group!

[putdownan8dude]

hair aside, wayne kramer is remarkably well preserved. a legend!

[cottageorgan]

who's that singng and playing guitar at the beginning..Is it Mark Arm. I heard he sang with a reformed version of the MC5.

[Crankdaddy1]

Nicke Andersson of the Hellacopters. Great band from Sweden.

[cottageorgan]

Ahhh. I've heard of the band but have never heard any of their stuff. I'll check 'em out. Cheers.

[MonkeyTMG]

Great.  Any chance of the other 20 minutes?

[micmore007a]

Sure Wayne.. you were phone tapped. What a douche bag. I know, let's write a song..

[Horsemanray]

The FBI used to tap everybodies phone back then who were famous and had even an inkling of anti-war sentiment that they were wiling to express publicly. Military intellegnce had the Democratic candidate for president Eugene Macarthys campaign headquarters bugged during the 1968 Democratic convention. Want more proof? Look up Department of Defense footage MC5 1968 on here.

[Substantive64]

@Horsemanray

How do we know THE LEFT hasn't done the same in this country since then - Carter,Clinton,OBAMA? And would that make it cool to you?

[Horsemanray]

@Substantive64 Of course I would. You've exposed me. I'm actually a secret reverse nazi. You should be a lawyer.

[stacyblue1980]

*drool* Dave Vanian...Mmmmmm....and the MC5 are fkn amazing. 5*****

[psychodamned]

Dave Vanian is God, the MC5 are fookin cool too !

[nicmart]

Why weren't they willing to get arrested in Chicago to show solidarity with those who were arrested?

[kidcalabria]

Your comments, off which I've seen a few now - notwithstanding the fact that they're a few months old - are quite pathetic. The one about the MC5 "professing to know what was best for the country (???) & couldn't handle their own lives" takes the biscuit. The questions you ask in this one are so idiotic that don't deserve an answer, which would be obvious to anyone with a brain. Are you a 10-year-old or just naturally stupid?

[mc5kotjmf]

I love your grammer. It is so refreshing to hear a great response to a poor comment, although you did write off instead of of, (not often you see that in a sentence).....jesus I'm spending moor tyme mayking shoor this iz spelt rite than than iyam extolling the virtues of thee em cee 5iiive. Good call though mate!

[miketb42]

so..what really is kramer's beef with "a true testimonial"..i've heard different stories but probably not the real one...

[TheCoffeeCreature]

Apparently, they promised him that he would have full control over the sound track - he agreed to do it on that condition.

Then they went and presented him with the finished product. They put together the whole sound track without giving him ANY in-put or even consent about any part of it.

But, IMO, what they did to Dennis Thompson was worse.

You can read about all this on their websites. You'll get better info there than here - I'm just trying to summarize what I read there.

[RamonePinhead]

What did they do to Dennis? If you excuse the hassle?

[TheCoffeeCreature]

You can read about it in his own words on the DKT/MC5 website, in the Editorials section. It's the one entitled "Dennis Thompson's Categorical Imperative". (I'd post the link, but it won't let me.)

Basically, he says that they coerced him into being interviewed at a bad time when he was not in the right frame of mind (his mother had just died). He asked to be reinterviewed when he was feeling better, and for them not to use that footage, but they refused on both counts. I mean, WTF!!

[RamonePinhead]

Wow... That's pretty fucking bad.

[nicmart]

It isn't hard to understand the view of the interviewers. If they they had good material, why should they give it up because their subject asked them to? It isn't the job of a documentary maker to please his subjects. The MC5 were musicians who trashed their good thing; let the chips fall where they may. They professed to know what was best for the country, but they couldn't handle their own lives.

[ashapasha]

beautiful : )

[jayanxiety]

Great tribute concert, but it's bitter-sweet because there will be no true reunion without the late Rob Tyner and Fred Smith. It's also too bad that "A True Testimonial" has yet to see a release.

[jgray6868]

Thank you Jay.. SO TRUE.. Kramer is a greedy prick and I'll never forgive him for not letting this film get it's release.. I was a contributor to the film ,and i've seen it, it's an amazing film.

Jg

Chicago, IL

[jayanxiety]

I'd really love to hear your stories on the making of the 'Testimonial' documentary and it's now infamous legendary status!

[santeriaband]

Where's the rest??