Asymmetric capacitor operating in high vacuum_v1.wmv

[Atttaturk]

The test object clearly displaces to the left, when voltage is applied, and holds that position. That the object hangs on wires subject to voltage, needs to be considered and a test in Zero G would be better study.

[hec031]

@Atttaturk I agree 100% and we are moving towards an orbital test, but first we have two more test devices that we have to test. The first is a new self powered rotary device, which I just finished tonight and will be testing tomorrow. The second will be a fully vacuum rated self powered rotary device and finally a micro-sat test. If these test all succeed than all bets are off as to what happens next. Our work will become more public later this year.

[marcosvelarde83]

what about a "lifter" in the vacuum? its posible?

[lorenzogemma]

Undermanlac doesn't believe to his eyes!

Good video, but the voltage is low, you have to prove with 25kV and more!

[UnderManlac]

@lorenzogemma UnderManiac knows all too well the effect that is happening here. The science is provable, but you fantasize that it gravity manipulation. This has yet to be proven. None of you have done any gravity measurements. None of the tests have been investigated fully, such as ion wind and ion motor effects. All the experiments shown do not suggest an artificial gravity well being generated. Prove it's gravity manipulation.

[lorenzogemma]

@UnderManlac:

this video is a prove!

If you don't see evidence, you have some problems! Bye

[UnderManlac]

@lorenzogemma Again, your video proves nothing. I see no evidence of a high vacuum, judging from the normal look of the lid. Your vacuum chamber is flawed. You could never achieve any significant vacuum in such a container, especially when you have wires running up under the lip of the lid. Air will find a way in if not properly sealed. Those containers are not designed to create a perfect seal. Your video is a total failure if you're trying to prove movement in a vacuum.

[UnderManlac]

Why does the device still sit on the bottom of the container if there is anti-gravity going on here? What you have here is an ion thrust device. The only effect, as I have explained to you several times before, is an ion thrust combined with the ion wind effect. My guess is that you can't grasp that concept, or refuse to try to understand it. Instead, you spout off that you are creating anti-gravity but there is NO evidence to suggest that, just your unsupported claim.

[UnderManlac]

What conclusions, or theories, have you drawn as result of your experiment in reference to the source of the propulsion?

All you refer to is that it produces thrust.

In your video the shaking of the capacitor was due to the voltage source being applied. I saw no difference at higher voltages.

[hec031]

@UnderManlac We account for the small oscillations as being caused by the power supply ripple. We are currently looking more into that. However the net displacement even with the oscillations is positive. The thrust is not supposed to exist according to all other failed experiments like NASA's two separate tests and many other test that have been done prior to our own. All I was showing was that when done correctly thrust is still generated.

[UnderManlac]

@hec031 So when you say, "when done correctly" you are saying, not in a vacuum, but at full atmospheric pressure? This would again lend itself to ion thrust and ion wind effect.

[UnderManlac]

So, why didn't you build a lifter and test it? This doesn't provide proof of concept whatsoever. This is no better than the motor effect shown in other videos where the capacitor is on a pivot and spinning.

Please make a lifter and test it in a vacuum. I suspect that it will not lift.

[MrAwsome514]

@UnderManlac I cannot help but notice that they failed to mention the fact that if it was normal atmospheric pressure in there then that device would be moving all over the place. There is no such thing as a perfect vacuum so there will allways be some ionization going on but this test clearly shows that the device cannot function nearly as well under vacuum as it can normally which would not be the case if it functioned by antigravitic means.

[UnderManlac]

@MrAwsome514 I agree. They do not know the physics behind the effect. They build the device and get a result. To them that's all that is required for them to believe it's anti-gravity. No testing required. That's the trouble. Most of these people have not been taught the proper scientific method. 

[MrAwsome514]

@UnderManlac Actually I think the problem is that people these days are not interested in learning science when they are in school, but often become interested in it after they have gotten out and started hearing about these seemingly incredible claims. After that they seek out their information from the con artists which use technology to scam people and get their heads filled with what might as well be feces. This would explain why only the scams with rediculusly outlandish claims succeed.

[UnderManlac]

@MrAwsome514 They keep on coming in through the woodwork. When we try to educate them and try to make sense of it all for them, they get offensive and calls us shills and such. Never do they consider that we know what we are talking about. The information (the right information) is available on the net for anyone wishing do some research. Yet, they continue their false claims because they do not understand enough about the science behind what they are doing.

[MrAwsome514]

@UnderManlac Actually I believe they are capable of understanding the science behind it, however, they have allowed their desire to be right to override their capacity for reason. They want such things as antigravity to be true so strongly that they forget to question it when they believe that they have found it. The key to getting them to come around is not in the information you provide to them but I find it is more often how you provide the information to them.

[hec031]

@UnderManlac I can't say this enough times, It's not anti-gravity or anti anything. It's a thruster. It's a device that converts power input in one form, into a net equivalent thrust output via an unconventional force mechanism, which we believed to be a form of propellantless propulsion. The possibility of propellantless propulsion phenomenon's are accepted in the general scientific community. Many researchers are pursuing these kinds of effects.

[UnderManlac]

@hec031 No duh. I've been telling you that for a long time now. It's ion thrust and ion wind. Nothing more. There is no new science here, no new physics. The ion thrust engine has been in development for decades. I can't see why you refuse to consider that fact. Most people talking about the asymmetric capacitor claim anti-gravity. It has nothing to do with gravity, just thrust from the ions given off and the ion wind that's carried along with it.

[hec031]

@UnderManlac I know a lot of people in the scientific community that disagree with you, but you're entitled to your opinion.

[UnderManlac]

@hec031 I know a lot of people in the scientific community that fully agree with me. These people happen to be physicists with doctorates and engineers. Your boast means nothing. I have talked, at length, with highly intelligent people discussing this very subject. I have given them my high voltage experiments book and they draw the same conclusion on this subject very adamantly. No new laws of physics are shown here, no laws of physics are broken. It's not anti-gravity.

[CBR4D10]

hector you crazy man lol jk