I really don't understand why those kind of nearly confabulation symptom processing can be treat as Philosophy even in 21 century, There's loaded of them!!!!!
Without logic how can we acquire from her the information "logic is weak"? When she says 'science' she seems to be referring to some abstract construct of her own, not the constantly changing ideas produced by individual researchers. BORING.
"logic is for the weak" Wow!! I could simply turn her argument on its head and say staying away from logic is for the weak because they are afraid they have no ideas and are afraid of being wrong. Once one says logic can not be applied then the result is anything goes and nonsense pervades. Which is exactly what has happened with this postmodernism or post structurilism. Terms are never clearly defined and yet they claim language to be the basis. They should read language, truth and logic
"Once one says logic can not be applied then the result is anything goes and nonsense pervades:"
Hey, maybe we come up with something, if you take Dawkins, and Atkins on the leash, who preach logical positivism and scientism onto the masses and hound against post-modernism.
We don't have the time anymore to make people first modern and only then let them overcome the problems that come with it.
Logify existence to me, you left hemissphere of a whole brain.
This is a false dilemma. Postmodernism is not the only alternative to modernism, as both have serious flaws. I don't need to hold a teleology to call bullshit on the call to avoid logic, for example.
And Henri's point remains pertinent: How can the deconstructionists claim language as a basis if they do not define their own terms?
Moreover, what is your alternative to logical positivism? Pure uncertainty, for no particular reason? That is not an especially profound epistemology.
Hey, maybe we come up with some re-construction if you take Dawkins and Atkins, who are scientist and don't have the first clue about philosophy, on the leash who preach logical positivism and scientism unto the masses.
Logify existence to me, you left hemissphere of a whole brain.
I couldn't agree with you more, Avital! We need to rid science of its priestly asceticism, its failed belief in the ideal of "truth," and restore the free spirituality to mankind!
Haha. I am dubious of this invented term, as I am likewise dubious of Ronell's strength as a scholar. (I also find her French pronunciation a little laugable.)
I think she starts wrongfootedly when she says cience does not have to be "strong enough" -- and then recovers by going on about how science can go about its work quietly and indifferently -- even passively and unselfconsciously. Science seeks to confirm itself as much as it seeks to erase its invention. If it only undid itself it would be known as science.
Haha. I, too, am dubious of this invented term, as I am likewise dubious of Ronell's strength as a scholar. (I also find her French pronunciation a little laugable.)
The logical positivist project was destroyed by Godel.
MrDiceman9000 1 year ago
I really don't understand why those kind of nearly confabulation symptom processing can be treat as Philosophy even in 21 century, There's loaded of them!!!!!
yamscafe 1 year ago
Without logic how can we acquire from her the information "logic is weak"? When she says 'science' she seems to be referring to some abstract construct of her own, not the constantly changing ideas produced by individual researchers. BORING.
dhakhair 2 years ago
im pretty sure ronell has no idea what shes talking about in this video...
ChurchofMe88 2 years ago 5
Avital Ronell..
:3
NEDM1991 2 years ago
spliterature
NEDM1991 2 years ago 2
"logic is for the weak" Wow!! I could simply turn her argument on its head and say staying away from logic is for the weak because they are afraid they have no ideas and are afraid of being wrong. Once one says logic can not be applied then the result is anything goes and nonsense pervades. Which is exactly what has happened with this postmodernism or post structurilism. Terms are never clearly defined and yet they claim language to be the basis. They should read language, truth and logic
Henriamaa 2 years ago 2
"Once one says logic can not be applied then the result is anything goes and nonsense pervades:"
Hey, maybe we come up with something, if you take Dawkins, and Atkins on the leash, who preach logical positivism and scientism onto the masses and hound against post-modernism.
We don't have the time anymore to make people first modern and only then let them overcome the problems that come with it.
Logify existence to me, you left hemissphere of a whole brain.
RationalEmotive 2 years ago
This is a false dilemma. Postmodernism is not the only alternative to modernism, as both have serious flaws. I don't need to hold a teleology to call bullshit on the call to avoid logic, for example.
And Henri's point remains pertinent: How can the deconstructionists claim language as a basis if they do not define their own terms?
Moreover, what is your alternative to logical positivism? Pure uncertainty, for no particular reason? That is not an especially profound epistemology.
EebstertheGreat 2 years ago 5
Hey, maybe we come up with some re-construction if you take Dawkins and Atkins, who are scientist and don't have the first clue about philosophy, on the leash who preach logical positivism and scientism unto the masses.
Logify existence to me, you left hemissphere of a whole brain.
RationalEmotive 2 years ago
These people need to be "re-educated" in labour camps.
BahmanG 2 years ago
If logical arguments are "for the weak," then I guess the claim that logical arguments are for the weak itself requires no justification!
mayakronfeld 2 years ago 2
haha that last one was brilliant
zvexevz 3 years ago
This vicious harlot is a proponent of Mexicans invading our country and shitting in our science books
deadlyvengeance222 3 years ago
I couldn't agree with you more, Avital! We need to rid science of its priestly asceticism, its failed belief in the ideal of "truth," and restore the free spirituality to mankind!
godwiththelyre 3 years ago
Charlatanism at its best. This is almost like a parody of a philosopher.
MeatyCockandBallz 4 years ago
Haha. I am dubious of this invented term, as I am likewise dubious of Ronell's strength as a scholar. (I also find her French pronunciation a little laugable.)
felixunus 4 years ago
I think she starts wrongfootedly when she says cience does not have to be "strong enough" -- and then recovers by going on about how science can go about its work quietly and indifferently -- even passively and unselfconsciously. Science seeks to confirm itself as much as it seeks to erase its invention. If it only undid itself it would be known as science.
bertinotti 4 years ago
spliterature?
nietzschecreature 4 years ago
Spliterature
Meaning: written work devoted to star divorces
Usage : The Brad-Jen spliterature ate up quite a few rain forests.
Pronunciation: sounds like literature
Root : Split + literature
zarathustraburak 4 years ago 2
Haha. I, too, am dubious of this invented term, as I am likewise dubious of Ronell's strength as a scholar. (I also find her French pronunciation a little laugable.)
felixunus 4 years ago