As far as im concerned true Karate like this Okinawa Karate is truely one of the best striking arts, involving toughening knuckles,hands ,wrists,forearms,elbows etc,With bone breaking blocks/strikes ..As mainly a striking art its equal and as deadly as any other no gloves striking art.
I LOVE OKINAWAN KARATE! There's a reason why Funakoshi was ordered to give the Japanese at that time a "Green Steak!" It's no surprise that the Japanese did wonders with that "green steak." All the Karate systems have great wealth and contribution to the martial arts. Find the path that suits you and learn the hell out of it!!
Higaonna Sensei is still the man!! He still performs kata with the same intensity, low stances and power as seen in films he's done thirty years ago. Awesome.
At least in Kyokushinkai we learn to respect other schools and martial arts,and if we don´t understand kata we will practise and practise until we understand.Osu!
98% of all Kyokushin students and teachers don't have a clue of Kata or a hunch on their real applications and I am not speaking of the most obvious one. Kyokushin is NOT karate, it is just Kick Boxing without the Boixing and a lot of wasted training without knowing it's use (Kihon, Ido, Kata)
What Kyokushin school have you been to? Many Kyokushin teachers have had prior experience in various forms of Karate(at least in Japan). Okinawa is the place to learn proper Karate, and many Kyokushin teachers frequent there for discussions on Kata's and training.
Have trained in Tokyo Honbu, the original one and various dojos in Japan, Usa, Canada. These days the focus is on sport tpurnamnet karate and missing out on true kata study.
98% eh? Because you personally know 98% of the people who practice? Where did you get your statistic, your ass I presume? ... Id love for you, someone who "knows" karate, to goto a Kyokushin school and run your mouth like you did here, challenge the best student and prove it, while you're at it, record a video for us folks on youtube showing us what your karate did against the "NOT karate"... Im pretty sure you don't even know what Karate is, Kyokushin IS real.. You need to study some more.
It is obvious that most schools in Japan just focus on tournament fighting. If you don't know that please check it out for yourself. My comment wasn't at all to bash Kyokushin for what it is. "Real" karate is very different than Kyokushin, yes there is contact, tough spirit, lots of 'osu' excellent basics....this comment was focusing on kata study and bunkai. In Japan (mainland) most dojos are stuck on tournamnet rule fighting....and practice very little real fighting.
@risingsunintl Your right. I find tournament fighting is like thinking your a race car driver behind the wheel of a go cart. Training for combat and training for sport is very different. You can see it in the kata. If a kata is flamboyant and flashy without trimming the excess movements then you are practicing an inefficient and potentially less powerful technique for the sake of visual style. Odd watching a black belt roll punches off to make a gi snap, instead of keeping it straight/hard
@risingsunintl I think you are wrong! Kyokushin is closer to Okinawan Karate than any other Japan Karate. Japan karate technique are no longer complete as Okinawan karate technique. Some technique have been discarded in order to be a safe sport. Beside that, many Japan no contact karate never use high intensity training like Okinawan karate (except Goju-ryu which is the precursor of Kyokushin), while Kyokushin still keep the ancient katas, techniques, and hard training system of Okinawan karate.
@risingsunintl However, Kyokushin use those technique in a very practice and applicable way, because people doesn't fight in the street using katas.There are no karateka can fight in real fight use kata move, they will get killed if they do that. In Kyokushin, kata is used to train footage, stances, and body coordination, but when it go to a full contact or street fight, Kyokushin use the principle (not the move) of kata in a practice and applicable way.
rising sun thats not very nice now is it, being a fellow karateka you should be ashamed of yourself, every style has something to offer, and the founders of these arts always experimented with other styles and took and added to there own styles what they felt was usefull, why cant you do the same, kyokushin is a world renowned style, its founder has great respect in the martial arts world, so who the hell are you to ridicule, im not a kyokoshin stylist, but i still think its a great art, behave!
"god damn it, I'm not paying 200 bucks a month to train this hard! I'm paying you money to tell me how good I am from very little training and quickly earned black belt god damn it!"
I think that you have to look at an old man in his 80's that has a huge amount of karate knowledge and understand that the kick was probably much better performed 30 or 40 years ago.
La verdadera filosofía del Karate Do, en la mezcla de Chun fa y To De= Okinawa Te (arte de guerra ante el invasor)Naha Te (Gojo Ryu, Uechi Ryu, Matshibayashi ryu), Shuri Te y Tomari Te (Kobayashi, sobayashi, shorin), y sus mezclas (shuri te + tomari te)=Shotokan, Wado Ryu, y (shuri te + naha te)shito ryu,pasaron a Japón con Funakoski, Kenwa Mabuni, Choki Motobu, Choyun Miyagui, etc..y adoptaron el Bishido Japonés, (más bien como camino espiritual y via interior= DO).
when u breath in u breath in to ur dian tan lower abdomen,,excuse the spelling,,,and then u breath out through mouth,,,muscles should be tense if ur breathing right...
my sensei told me to breath in with my nose and to breath out with my mouth.i saw some yoga and they said just to breath with the nose because its better for your bodie who is right pleas answer
From a "medical" stand point, it almost doesn't matter. Your nose goes directly into your throat, as does your mouth. The only true difference would be that your nose can protect better against dust because of mucus.
In Karate, you should always breath out the same amount and intensity you breath in.
if you breathe out through your mouth in a certain way (quite difficult to describe) you may feel that your abs tense. this is a goyu ryu way of breathing, especially when walking kata sanshin. i do goyu ryu karate but only for 3/4 years now and our sensei often demonstrates the proper breathing techniques. they are essential in combat.
sorry, i don't have vids that demonstrate these techniques. but if you watch this vid at around 1:00 you'll hear a guy doing these excercises. listen to the way he breathes and observe how his shoulders don't move up as he breathes. perhaps you might be able to learn from it that way
I have an old VHS (american) video of a karate master of Isshinryu (another main okinawan style from goju and shorin ryu) doing sanchin kata, virtually unchanged, and you can really see his breathing techniques. I will try to get them up, and let you know. He's quite a spectacle.
just do a search for sanchin here on youtube. you will see the goju breathing....and hear it!! (remember that)
it should be noted though that the muscles arent physically tensed, or you cant breathe, try to sort of push your abs out and down. instead of simply tightening them. you should be mobile and able to breathe and speak while remaining hard bodied.
part 2. at least this is how it's done in uechi ryu. which is a bit different than goju. the butt muscles should be tight, with your pelvis curled up. belly pushed out and down. shoulders pulled down with your lat muscles not your arm muscles. hope it helps
i dont believe uechi is naha-te at all. kanbun uechi never learned any "karate" on okinawa, save for some bojutsu. and he lived nowhere near naha from what i've read. pangai-noon, uechi, shohei ryu, is straight from china. that's where the similarity to goju (naha te) comes from. uechi, and higashionna both studied in southern china.
they are main styles nowadays. two mainly, goju, and shorin...goju being naha te, and shorin encompassing shuri te and tomari te (to a lesser extent) to me uechi is a separate entity altogether. though i suppose it 'could' be lumped in with goju given the similar hojo undo and things
but i agree with you, they are both definately from the same region. too many similarities to ignore. yet they are also too different to have come from the exact same school/person. i imagine the two would compliment each other very well.
The 3 main styles are goju ryu,shorin ryu and uechi ryu.
the others like shotokan,kyokushin etc. are the branches of okinawan karate. if you look closely the 3 main styles are focused on self deffence rather than sport and they dominate the karate world not kyokushin not shotokan not wado ryu but them.because they are the roots of karate jutsu before it become karatedo.
I always thought that there was only two main styles Shuri-te(Shotokan, Shorin-ryu) and naha-te(Goju Ryu) Or atleast these were the styles that were used to combat the Samurai(Okinawa-te). I do not no much about Uechi, and wonder why it contains katas with similar names to goju.
Goju and Uechi are "related" in the sense that they both came from Okinawans who studied in China in the late 1800s/early 1900s, and both emphasize Sanchin training. Shotokan is a mainland Japanese style developed by an Okinawan teacher of Shuri-te karate, Gichin Funakoshi, who introduced karate to the mainland in the 1920s.
The post that I had replied to,said in your own words "You have 3 of karate in Okinawa" not main styles or major styles,but now that reposted Kagemaru999 in this manor i cant really argue with your new post (Tatsuo Shimabuku),thank you for your reply.
Uechi Ryu Karate Do
StoughtonRoad 1 year ago
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MrShow9999 1 year ago
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MrShow9999 1 year ago
As far as im concerned true Karate like this Okinawa Karate is truely one of the best striking arts, involving toughening knuckles,hands ,wrists,forearms,elbows etc,With bone breaking blocks/strikes ..As mainly a striking art its equal and as deadly as any other no gloves striking art.
RossTaylor09 2 years ago 2
Nice material, thanks for posting it.
thealumbrado 2 years ago
I love chishi! Great workout!
hrdcorr 2 years ago
I LOVE OKINAWAN KARATE! There's a reason why Funakoshi was ordered to give the Japanese at that time a "Green Steak!" It's no surprise that the Japanese did wonders with that "green steak." All the Karate systems have great wealth and contribution to the martial arts. Find the path that suits you and learn the hell out of it!!
runamok 2 years ago 2
Higaonna Sensei is still the man!! He still performs kata with the same intensity, low stances and power as seen in films he's done thirty years ago. Awesome.
deek77 2 years ago
At least in Kyokushinkai we learn to respect other schools and martial arts,and if we don´t understand kata we will practise and practise until we understand.Osu!
Kyokushin89 2 years ago 14
we're doin this in kyokushin...
serpentphoenix 3 years ago
doing yes, undertsnading NO!
98% of all Kyokushin students and teachers don't have a clue of Kata or a hunch on their real applications and I am not speaking of the most obvious one. Kyokushin is NOT karate, it is just Kick Boxing without the Boixing and a lot of wasted training without knowing it's use (Kihon, Ido, Kata)
risingsunintl 3 years ago
What Kyokushin school have you been to? Many Kyokushin teachers have had prior experience in various forms of Karate(at least in Japan). Okinawa is the place to learn proper Karate, and many Kyokushin teachers frequent there for discussions on Kata's and training.
NameTaken1000 2 years ago
Have trained in Tokyo Honbu, the original one and various dojos in Japan, Usa, Canada. These days the focus is on sport tpurnamnet karate and missing out on true kata study.
risingsunintl 2 years ago
98% eh? Because you personally know 98% of the people who practice? Where did you get your statistic, your ass I presume? ... Id love for you, someone who "knows" karate, to goto a Kyokushin school and run your mouth like you did here, challenge the best student and prove it, while you're at it, record a video for us folks on youtube showing us what your karate did against the "NOT karate"... Im pretty sure you don't even know what Karate is, Kyokushin IS real.. You need to study some more.
guitarninja83 2 years ago
It is obvious that most schools in Japan just focus on tournament fighting. If you don't know that please check it out for yourself. My comment wasn't at all to bash Kyokushin for what it is. "Real" karate is very different than Kyokushin, yes there is contact, tough spirit, lots of 'osu' excellent basics....this comment was focusing on kata study and bunkai. In Japan (mainland) most dojos are stuck on tournamnet rule fighting....and practice very little real fighting.
risingsunintl 2 years ago
@risingsunintl Your right. I find tournament fighting is like thinking your a race car driver behind the wheel of a go cart. Training for combat and training for sport is very different. You can see it in the kata. If a kata is flamboyant and flashy without trimming the excess movements then you are practicing an inefficient and potentially less powerful technique for the sake of visual style. Odd watching a black belt roll punches off to make a gi snap, instead of keeping it straight/hard
MuskokaLad 1 year ago
@risingsunintl I think you are wrong! Kyokushin is closer to Okinawan Karate than any other Japan Karate. Japan karate technique are no longer complete as Okinawan karate technique. Some technique have been discarded in order to be a safe sport. Beside that, many Japan no contact karate never use high intensity training like Okinawan karate (except Goju-ryu which is the precursor of Kyokushin), while Kyokushin still keep the ancient katas, techniques, and hard training system of Okinawan karate.
EdwardNagaraj 9 months ago
@risingsunintl However, Kyokushin use those technique in a very practice and applicable way, because people doesn't fight in the street using katas.There are no karateka can fight in real fight use kata move, they will get killed if they do that. In Kyokushin, kata is used to train footage, stances, and body coordination, but when it go to a full contact or street fight, Kyokushin use the principle (not the move) of kata in a practice and applicable way.
Osu
EdwardNagaraj 9 months ago
rising sun thats not very nice now is it, being a fellow karateka you should be ashamed of yourself, every style has something to offer, and the founders of these arts always experimented with other styles and took and added to there own styles what they felt was usefull, why cant you do the same, kyokushin is a world renowned style, its founder has great respect in the martial arts world, so who the hell are you to ridicule, im not a kyokoshin stylist, but i still think its a great art, behave!
singhakabuttar 2 years ago 2
this kankudai kata looks different. man he's very very old.
waikin7 3 years ago
Its Kusanku Dai from the Kobayashi Lineage. And yes. Master Nakazato is in his late 80's ^_^
TonyPstunts 3 years ago
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cocozumbo 3 years ago
why can training be like this in america? i bet this is why so many blackbelts look so bad..
pyrosquirrel91 3 years ago
"god damn it, I'm not paying 200 bucks a month to train this hard! I'm paying you money to tell me how good I am from very little training and quickly earned black belt god damn it!"
that answer your question?
stardingo747 3 years ago 13
thanks for the posting, but the sound does lag really bad!
dschungelkaempfer 4 years ago
at 1:46 that was a pointless kick.
yeee941 4 years ago
it wasnt pointless, it was part of the kata kanku dai, it you look up the bunkai of this kata you'll that it wasn't pointless
nickoos 3 years ago
I think that you have to look at an old man in his 80's that has a huge amount of karate knowledge and understand that the kick was probably much better performed 30 or 40 years ago.
NewEnglandBudo 3 years ago
La verdadera filosofía del Karate Do, en la mezcla de Chun fa y To De= Okinawa Te (arte de guerra ante el invasor)Naha Te (Gojo Ryu, Uechi Ryu, Matshibayashi ryu), Shuri Te y Tomari Te (Kobayashi, sobayashi, shorin), y sus mezclas (shuri te + tomari te)=Shotokan, Wado Ryu, y (shuri te + naha te)shito ryu,pasaron a Japón con Funakoski, Kenwa Mabuni, Choki Motobu, Choyun Miyagui, etc..y adoptaron el Bishido Japonés, (más bien como camino espiritual y via interior= DO).
viawado 4 years ago
goju ryu (naha te) matsubayashi ryu is shorin ryu, along with kobayashi, shobayashi, and matsumura seito (shuri te, and tomari te)
uechi ryu in my opinion is not naha te, it is categorized as naha te because it is simelar.
kempobrad 4 years ago
when u breath in u breath in to ur dian tan lower abdomen,,excuse the spelling,,,and then u breath out through mouth,,,muscles should be tense if ur breathing right...
dzanicsan 4 years ago
i have a question about my karate.
my sensei told me to breath in with my nose and to breath out with my mouth.i saw some yoga and they said just to breath with the nose because its better for your bodie who is right pleas answer
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atpforever1 4 years ago
From a "medical" stand point, it almost doesn't matter. Your nose goes directly into your throat, as does your mouth. The only true difference would be that your nose can protect better against dust because of mucus.
In Karate, you should always breath out the same amount and intensity you breath in.
davefarber 4 years ago
if you breathe out through your mouth in a certain way (quite difficult to describe) you may feel that your abs tense. this is a goyu ryu way of breathing, especially when walking kata sanshin. i do goyu ryu karate but only for 3/4 years now and our sensei often demonstrates the proper breathing techniques. they are essential in combat.
dude1001xxx 4 years ago
thx
can you show me a vid of these techniques?
atpforever1 4 years ago
sorry, i don't have vids that demonstrate these techniques. but if you watch this vid at around 1:00 you'll hear a guy doing these excercises. listen to the way he breathes and observe how his shoulders don't move up as he breathes. perhaps you might be able to learn from it that way
dude1001xxx 4 years ago
I have an old VHS (american) video of a karate master of Isshinryu (another main okinawan style from goju and shorin ryu) doing sanchin kata, virtually unchanged, and you can really see his breathing techniques. I will try to get them up, and let you know. He's quite a spectacle.
dmitzah 4 years ago
just do a search for sanchin here on youtube. you will see the goju breathing....and hear it!! (remember that)
it should be noted though that the muscles arent physically tensed, or you cant breathe, try to sort of push your abs out and down. instead of simply tightening them. you should be mobile and able to breathe and speak while remaining hard bodied.
kempobrad 4 years ago
part 2. at least this is how it's done in uechi ryu. which is a bit different than goju. the butt muscles should be tight, with your pelvis curled up. belly pushed out and down. shoulders pulled down with your lat muscles not your arm muscles. hope it helps
kempobrad 4 years ago
i do shorin ryu karate ..great video
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I am from Shotokan Karate.I love watching Okinawan karate. Goju Ryu e.t.c
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I do Okinawan Hardstyle Karate! I'm a jr. black belt.
yamahasho192 4 years ago
Excellent Video!
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Pecherin72 4 years ago
i dont believe uechi is naha-te at all. kanbun uechi never learned any "karate" on okinawa, save for some bojutsu. and he lived nowhere near naha from what i've read. pangai-noon, uechi, shohei ryu, is straight from china. that's where the similarity to goju (naha te) comes from. uechi, and higashionna both studied in southern china.
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Pecherin72 4 years ago
they are main styles nowadays. two mainly, goju, and shorin...goju being naha te, and shorin encompassing shuri te and tomari te (to a lesser extent) to me uechi is a separate entity altogether. though i suppose it 'could' be lumped in with goju given the similar hojo undo and things
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Pecherin72 4 years ago
not unless RyuRyuko and shushiwa are the same person.
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Pecherin72 4 years ago
but i agree with you, they are both definately from the same region. too many similarities to ignore. yet they are also too different to have come from the exact same school/person. i imagine the two would compliment each other very well.
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Pecherin72 4 years ago
The 3 main styles are goju ryu,shorin ryu and uechi ryu.
the others like shotokan,kyokushin etc. are the branches of okinawan karate. if you look closely the 3 main styles are focused on self deffence rather than sport and they dominate the karate world not kyokushin not shotokan not wado ryu but them.because they are the roots of karate jutsu before it become karatedo.
chanzen00 4 years ago
I always thought that there was only two main styles Shuri-te(Shotokan, Shorin-ryu) and naha-te(Goju Ryu) Or atleast these were the styles that were used to combat the Samurai(Okinawa-te). I do not no much about Uechi, and wonder why it contains katas with similar names to goju.
kirokukan 4 years ago
Can someone explain please what's the main different between the 3 main styles? and what's there conection to the more popular Shotokan? Thanks.
amam511 4 years ago
Goju and Uechi are "related" in the sense that they both came from Okinawans who studied in China in the late 1800s/early 1900s, and both emphasize Sanchin training. Shotokan is a mainland Japanese style developed by an Okinawan teacher of Shuri-te karate, Gichin Funakoshi, who introduced karate to the mainland in the 1920s.
rwiedeman 4 years ago
In simpel form they are sister styles.
NewportJuggalo 4 years ago
My dojo does Pwang Gai Noon Ryu (Han Ko Nan Ryu in Japanese) - where does that fit in those 3 style?
hempev 5 years ago
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Pecherin72 4 years ago
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Pecherin72 4 years ago
The post that I had replied to,said in your own words "You have 3 of karate in Okinawa" not main styles or major styles,but now that reposted Kagemaru999 in this manor i cant really argue with your new post (Tatsuo Shimabuku),thank you for your reply.
benjimanrosscoel 5 years ago
After looking for informations about Isshin Ryu I can correct that the 3 Main Styles of karate in okinawa are :
Shorin Ryu,
Goju Ryu,
Uechi Ryu.
with Kobudo
Isshin-ryū karate is largely a synthesis of Shorin-ryū karate Gojū-ryū karate, and Kobudo.
Isshin Ryu is a style of Okinawan karate founded by Shimabuku Tatsuo and named by him on 15 January, 1956.
So in my opinion it can't be noticed as a major style of Okinawan karate(it's only my opinion)
Kagemaru999 5 years ago
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Pecherin72 4 years ago
You have 3 styles of karate in Okinawa :
Shorin Ryu,
Goju Ryu,
Ueshi Ryu.
Kobudo is weapons art.
Kagemaru999 5 years ago
Uechi-ryu
ratobranco 5 years ago
what about Isshin Ryu Karate
benjimanrosscoel 5 years ago
UeChi Ryu/-ryu (I found the 2 spellings) you're right thanks Rotabranco
I don't know Isshin Ryu can you tell us more about it ?
Kagemaru999 5 years ago
3:11-4:30: Goju ryu kata suparinpe, performed by Morio Higaonna sensei
malasangre 5 years ago
For the other parts look at:
Part 1 -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ez-2WUDYtf0
part 2 -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8whcFM7y6M
Part 3 -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CF5vgzEMJiw
Have fun!
KMBA 5 years ago