Gibbs: Enzi Has Decided To Walk Away From The Table

[MVX12]

fuck mike enzi.

[DillonX]

Enzi can be defeated.

But his opposition must list in campaign ads all the bribes...opps, I mean contributions...he has received from drug companies & the insurance companies.

[stellarspellar]

Enzi held a town hall meeting last week and his constituents read him the riot act. What should he have done, ignored them?

[DillonX]

Enzi is Owned BY THE INSURANCE COMPANIES!

[checkurself]

Republicans don't want to help average citizens. If they cared about us, they would want change to the health care industry. Change is never easy but in the long run it will benefit us all. And Republicans want us to go backwards rather than forward. Their policies clearly show this trend.

[KSP0520]

I realy would like to see Gibbs asked a slew of real questions. I know his answer would be uhh ummm uhh ., but it would be funny to watch. They can't take real questions cause they have no real answers. It's easier remembering truths than it is lies. Quite frankly, He wouldn't be able to keep the lies straight !!!

[DillonX]

Mike Enzi is a Senator?

Hummmpt.

Based on his comments I thought he was just working as a lobbyist for the Pharmaceutical and Health Insurance Companies.

Okay, I guess they got enough bribes...opps, I mean "contributions" to him.

In his next election this creep should be easy to get rid of!

[stealth63]

As if Enzi or Baucus or any of those guys who have feathered their nest by crawling up lobbyists' butts were ever bargaining in good faith. This is just political kabuki. They are shaking the health corps down for money by prolonging this whole "negotiation", playing one side against the other. Dems need to grow a sack and finally do this thing with or w/o these bastards. It's hugely popular, it's achievable, and it's the right thing for our country and economy. Get it done.

[burntonion05]

Enzi rhymes with Nazi. So maybe he is a Nazi. Sarah Palin logic.

[iknewitalready]

F***K Enzi

[Maziyar]

the bible says alot of things asshole dont use it to defend dying men and women without money to support themselves

[doink1422]

who cares if the rupublicans want they don't control congress. democrats need to unite and speak with one voice and yes this must happen and happen now

[Painkill3r4]

I remember when Healthcare first came to Canada (yes, I`m that old) and the same fear-mongering by the far right was taking place. We heard ``This is communism!!! You`re a socialist!! ``This will bankrupt the country!!` Hell, they even played Ronald Raygun`s anti-healthcare record up here. LOL||

Now we have universal healthcare and everyone in Canada realizes that Healthcare for ALL is a right, not a privelege as in the States.

[wmg111]

Come up to Canada. We're hip deep in insurance companies. They just don't control healthcare. They've adapted, and they turn a profit.

Universal healthcare is an investment towards a healthy, productive populace, not an attack on civil liberties.

You will still have the same rights, in fact you get a new one. The right to keep your savings if you get sick.

[cagedtigersteve]

People would rather the death panel come from a greedy corporation than an elected official.

[SabuPtolemy]

GOP = the party of the status quo with no desire to make things better for the working (wo)man. Fuck 'em!

[KataVideo]

conservatard beacon (of shit) grover nordquest says bipartisanship is the same as date rape. now, they are acting on it.

stop trying to be nice to the repiglicans, they're not interested and will not reward you at a later date.

[iamafractal]

how can a dining room table walk away from the table?

[dafttool]

Enzi (AND Grassley) are being too cute by half. Walking away from the table when you've been elected to do the people's business is a sure recipe for irrelavancy. You get up from the table, don't expect to still have a seat when you finally get around to returning.

[andid]

This is the clown who said "it's not what I get them to compromise on, it's what I get them to leave out."

Good riddance. Single-payer or nothing.

[RommelMcDonald]

I am against rationing healthcare in all forms. Hurricane Katrina? Wrong. Triage centers on a battlefield? Wrong. Public healthcare? Wrong. Privatized healthcare based on one's ability to afford it? Wrong.

I am against all forms of healthcare no matter where they exist.

[Chibling]

I hear ya - I mean if you get sick it means God wants you to be sick (it is in his plan) - If you get treatment for an infection with anti biotics you are going against the will of God.

Therefore, all healthcare is immoral and should be abandoned and anyone who gets healthcare treatment is going directly against the almighty God and thus deserves to die.

[mayaluvsmusic]

only a moron thinks a public option would turn the us into the ussr.

[gisforgary]

Republicans don't know the meaning of bipartasan -- they haven't for a long time -- like decades. Why is the fact its a party of intolerance even remotely surprising?

[voyeurdug]

According to his own bio, on his Congressional website, Enzi is just ALL ABOUT bipartisanship... he even states a rule of thumb about it as regards legislation.

Apparently, though, the exception to his own bipartisanship rule is: "When(ever) it's put to a tough test... then to heck with it."

[ekjohndeer]

Even the Dem. don't agree with this . they havn't even tried to seat down. The bill tring to go through know is one big load of garbage . Reform is what we need but NOTGoverment run. THE BILL IS SO FULL GOVERMENT WASTE AND FAT , that it is not a Health reform.

[gisforgary]

I am always curious about your argument of reform yes, government involved reform no. How do you suggest we reform a system based on runaway greed with no government intervention? how do you suggest you get people more than used to stuffing their pockets to play nice? the base of capitalism is adam smiths "invisible hand" aka high up involvement doing the right thing to make markets behave. if not the government then who? we could reduce it to rubble and start over again. that could be messy.

[ekjohndeer]

Very easy

Stop paying for Illegals 20 Million ( What part of the word Illegal doesn't anyone understand)

Tort reform (Cap on Law suits)

% each Company have to insure the poor

but to have The Govement Run it is crazy they proven that they can not run something this big.

[Chibling]

Fire fighting is too big for the government to control - they should go back to free-market fire fighting.

[ekjohndeer]

Our City and township is all Volunteer good people doing good work!

[franknyt]

Yeah! and Free Market Unemployment benefits, and Free Market Free Clinics, and Free Market Borrow a Book but return it in two weeks or get fined 15 cents a day. I miss that one, fucking Socialists!!!

Don't get me started on Volunteer Fire Fighters, fucken hippies.

[boots920]

Its time to stop counterfeiting money...

[fishhead06]

Republican obstructionism. What a shock. Okay, Dems, time to pass legislation.

[bigkeys72]

Republicans don't have the votes to stop Obamacare. So how are they obstructing?

I understand that Democrats need more useful Republican idiots to provide them cover, so if Gibbs want RINOs to cross over he should be nice to them.

[fishhead06]

I don't think they need the cover - and, as you point out, they don't need Repub votes. I'm simply saying that the Republicans have demonstrated that obstructing the president's agenda is more important to them than passing legislation.  Now that the facade of bipartisanship has been ripped off by the Republicans themselves, the Dems should use the mandate the electorate has given them in the executive AND legislative branches to actually pass legislation. That's what majority rule means.

[bigkeys72]

No one is obstructing the Kenyan. The Democrats have the votes to pass anything they want; yet on the porkulus, and now on Obamacare, they are trying to get stupid Republicans to cross over when the people are overwhelming opposing Obama's Marxist agenda. Bipartisanship simply means Republicans should bend over and help the Dems in destroying America. And no, I'm not a Republican party hack I hate the GOP just as much as the Dems.

[fishhead06]

"I'm not a Republican party hack I hate the GOP just as much as the Dems." Yeah, bigkeys, SURE you do!  You're so nonpartisan you have even forgotten the results of the last federal election, or that 70% of Americans support reforming the health insurance system to include a public option.

[bigkeys72]

What asshole did you pull that statistic from? Obama never had a mandate in his election to implement socialism. Also the people are overwhelmingly opposed to gov't taking over their healthcare. Apparently you didn't see the town halls - people are pissed not only at obamacare but at big fat socialist gov't taking over their lives. But back to Obamacare - nobody is disputing my main point that the Dems have the votes to pass this - so pass this baby then and take responsibility and be men

[fishhead06]

The asshole I pulled it from was The Wall Street Journal. Check out their website slash article slash SB124527518023424769 dot html. And, as I recall, health care reform including a public option was a MAJOR part of Obama's and the DNC's platform - so YES, they do have a mandate. People shouting and intimidating at town hall meetings don't change the numbers.

[bigkeys72]

People support reforming healthcare but not including a ridiculously named Public Option. Yes Obama campaigned for healthcare reform but was he specific? He never said anything about the gov't taking over healthcare (as do all liberals lie about their true agenda during campaigns). Those people shouting at town halls are the majority. If the Dems pass this they will get the boot in 2010, if they don't pass it the extreme wacko left will be on their asses too. ROFL

[fishhead06]

You're grasping, bigkeys. It will take you only a moment - not that you'll spend it - to check out Obama's campaign website to find out the details. If anything, they've been drastically scaled back to try to elicit obstructionist GOP support. If you think the people opposing a public option are the majority, I have two words: Prove it.

[bigkeys72]

I don't need to go to Obama's propaganda site because I read HR 3200 (the bill) itself. Newsfash: Obama doesn't have a plan himself he is just a used-car salesman while Congress does the dirty work. I've told you that the GOP can't do anything to stop this, so how are they obstructing? Facts are a bitch, aren't they? I have proof that people oppose Obamacare just by the fact that the Dems can't get it passed and they're trying to blame the GOP for their intra-party fight over it.

[fishhead06]

I think I've established that, while you're pretty heavy on the rhetoric and ideological catchphrases, you're pretty light on the evidence. What is clear is that you support corporate control of people's health - and everyone knows that the insurance companies have no incentive to care for sick people. They cost them money.

[tj5555555]

conservatives support the right of anyone to have the best care they can afford, the best car they can afford, the best food they can afford, and to pay for what they want with their own money, not to take money from other workers. The Bible says that if a man will not work , then neither should he eat. So if food is not a God given right, why do liberals talk as if every product of another's work is the property of the ones that do not earn it? They are covetous thieves. tj

[themarycity]

What does the Bible have to do w/ politics and the real world? The Bible is a guidebook, not something you live line by line. You talk about that, but you also don't talk about how the Bible also talks about compassion.

[tj5555555]

city: you error not knowing the scriptures. You as the un-learned say that it is a guide book, yet refuse the book to guide you. Therefore you can not pick & choose truths of the Book to use as a sword for you be not a believer of the words you would choose. It would be as a weapon in the hand of a baby. Where as The Word in the hand and on the tongue of a believer is sharper then a two edged sword rightly dividing the truth cutting to the joints & the marrow (ie that's really deep). tj

[themarycity]

No I do not know my scriptures, but I do know something about compassion. I'm glad I do because I see sad individuals like you who claim to be religious but have no compassion whatsoever. I think everyone deserves access to affordable care, regardless of the mistakes they have made in their lives because we have all made mistakes. It's not fair to those individuals. No one says, "well we are not helping these ppl who go in a crash because they were driving too fast." no we help regardless.

[tj5555555]

t-city: you only present an obvious exception to the rule where compassion does apply , but that in no way reduces the application of the rules in the formation of policy. We are no longer the wide eyed youth of the 60's that so easily fell for that lame debate tactic. We know that your feigned compassion is nothing but an attempt to sway the opinions to create bigger government and a near communist power base. The Scriptures are the basis of knowing the truth that keeps us free.  tj

[fishhead06]

The flip side is that the poor get the worst of everything, or even nothing at all. A compassionate society, one in which one "loves your neighbour as yourself" is one which believes in supplying the basic needs of everyone - education, health, and general welfare. That's the kind of society I want to build and to live in - not one of greed and unfettered self-interest, which is entirely opposed to the Lord's teachings.

[tj5555555]

f-06: No flip side to it. The acts of charity are a personal function and not to be dictated by a federal government that is so corrupt that 4 years later after multi-millions of charity directed to new orleans, Katrina victims still remain at a loss. You can NOT legislate morality because the work of Jesus Christ is an inside job that produces a personal external expression of charities. Governments bare not the sword in vain and their duty is enforcement of law. charity is personal. tj

[fishhead06]

The Bible makes no distinction between the government as an agent of God's will, and the people as agents of God's will. How you interpret otherwise is a mystery to me. And the chief commandment of God to all is to love and to do mercy. What is government in a democracy if not a collective expression of individual wills?

[tj5555555]

f-06: you also error not knowing the Scriptures. If you read Romans13:1-8 you will see that God appoints ministers to execute wrath on him who practices evil & he does not bear the sword in vain. However i must grant that you speak truth in as much as you state somewhat that which is mentioned about Love being the fulfillment of the law listed in Romans 13:10. However you error again in that Ben Franklin said that we were given a Republic not a democracy. Big difference there. tj

[fishhead06]

Romans 13 does not exclude other responsibilities of the community. Consider the entire contents of the Epistle of James. And are you saying that a republic can't be a democracy? How are representatives elected in the US if not democratically?

[tj5555555]

f-06: Do you advocate that we all should follow the instructions found in the Christian Holy Bible, or just the parts that you choose? Yes and do consider the entire Epistle of James, but what shall the nation do with Leviticus? The un regenerate mind can not deal with the Truth. By the way, a democratic electorial process does not make this nation a Democracy and was never intended to. We remain a Republic until the mob or the dictator assume control. Neither are authorized. tj

[fishhead06]

"All things are lawful for me, but not all things are useful." I agree with St. Paul on that.

[tj5555555]

f-06: There are "parts" that the demons "agree" upon, and tremble. Agreement in part leaves one in parts and not whole. You did not address the issue. We have been given a Republic form of government based upon a contract, The US Constitution, that provides for a democratic (popular) election process. That is NOT a Democracy, which was intentionally excluded as being known to lead to rule by the mob, as was much like the French revolution a few years after our War for Independence.  tj

[fishhead06]

I did address your issue about Biblical authority. The authority is the living word of Christ - not the "dead letter" of the law. I don't approve stoning disobedient children or ajudicating on hair length, either. As for your other point, I have to admit that calling a democractic system of election anything other than a democracy is a novel approach to semantics.

[tj5555555]

f-06: Canadian novel semantics perhaps. Here we are on a political page, that should be the main topic. One's Christian or in your case "spiritual" beliefs may influence the flavor of the discussion, but the topic is American socio-econo-political at the core. It's not semantics to use the terms of "our" founding fathers to identify the actual kind of government that is the USA's government, it's a matter of US history and facts. We enjoy foreign opinion, but it is our terms that are our own. tj

[cosmosgato]

I agree on one thing the GOP can't stop this if the dems want it. If it does not pass it is the dems. If it a piece of SSSS it is the dems. The dems need to grow a pair and get work done.

[tj5555555]

s-72: they thumb down your comment because they fear the truth you publish, and only want their propaganda to show. It shows that they are cowards that fear an open & free debate. they can't even hold their own turff without blocking your vioce. Liberals are cowards & cheep. They love to spend other peoples money. tj

[frostwolf1]

"as do all liberals lie about their true agenda during campaigns"

Yeah, but Republican candidates have always kept their word after winning election, right? rofl...

You've let your partisanship blind you, good sir.

[bigkeys72]

I don't give a crap about the Republicans

[tj5555555]

f-f1: the solution is to replace them ALL. Both parties. Form 2 new parties. Both shall be called independents that will be responsible only to their electorate. I-C will be conservatives & I-L will be liberal. Their first duty will be to repeal the 16th & 17th amendments that would end the Federal Reserve & restore States' Rights in appointing senators as it was up until 1913. Dump Reps & Dems both are too corrupt to continue. tj

[andrewh23]

You're not going to get a new party - no one has the money to push an independent campaign. Several have tried and failed. The fact is that most Americans consider voting for a third party throwing their votes away. I agree we need more parties but I doubt it's going to happen.

[gisforgary]

you forget the paultard option. chuck norris for president. and some random hot babe for vp. cause chuck just isn't easy on the eyes anymore. we need more actors for president. texas teaches intelligent design in biology class and its not because of the GOP.

[Engeltag]

I only have to read your first sentence to know you're an idiot sheep, regardless of political affiliation.

Stop perpetuating the lies in place to stop progress in this country.

[bigkeys72]

I'm a sheep because I don't want gov't taking over my healthcare? So why can't the Dems call this what it really is? Stop calling it the Public Option because there is no option. Once this thing passes private insurers and employer plans will go out of business leaving only the government because nobody can't compete with the government. Sheesh, speaking of sheep....

[baronmorris]

WHY GOV'T OPTION IS NECESSARY

UHC CEO Stephen Hemsley has $745 MILLION in stock options. 2007 pay $13.2mil; 2008 $3.2 mil.

CIGNA CEO Edward Hanway made $120mil in last 5yrs. Stock options = $28mil.

Humana CEO Michael McCallister's made $10.3mil in 07. $1,017,308 in 08. Stock options = $60mil.

The LARGEST GOLDEN PARACHUTE in history of corporate America goes to William McGuire of UnitedHealth

1.4 BILLION DOLLARS!

Now how many DENIED angiograms MRI's & dialysis treatments does that take?

[bigkeys72]

How much does the head of SEIU pulls in? ACORN received billions from the stimulus bill. Where was the outrage over that?

You people are just so predictable, with all the intelligence of bread mold.

[2tsaybow]

The fallacy is that you are not talking about the industry that provides (or pretends to provide) health insurance.

Quit calling people names that disagree with you bigkeys72. Do you have health insurance? Do you bigkeys72. Who is your provider? Since is must be so great let us all know. We all are looking for an honest health insurance company. Do you know of just one?

[fishhead06]

Taking over health care? How is providing a public option for insurance taking over health care? Or, if this is your opinion, why do you prefer for-profit corporations to be in charge of health care and who gets it?

[bigkeys72]

Damnit fishhead - nobody can be this stupid. The "public option" means that the gubmint will provide healthcare BELOW COST. That will put private insurers out of business and employee plans will be DROPPED for the public option because it will be CHEAPER. The plan will then kick in a tax on those without the public option. This is Hillarycare on steriods, and yes, I prefer letting the free market take care of most healthcare with maybe the gov't helping with catastrophic care and special needs.

[gobigorange99]

Are you kidding me? most people get there insurance though there employer. The public option is those that not insured. Thats all it means

[bigkeys72]

One last time kids: The public option will inevitably put private insurers out of business because NO ONE can compete with an entity (the gubmint) who owns the printing press and isn't held accountable. Employee plans will be dropped because biz will find it cheaper (in the short run). Uninsured folks will be forced to pay higher payroll taxes if they don't join the public option. And then the fun begins. Once the public option becomes the only option, the rationing begins. Yippee!

[oldtownkid]

If insurance companies go out of business that might be a good opportunity for us to get rid of an unnecessary middle man in the healthcare system. Who knows? A system with state-level co-ops and a public option, and no more CEO's making billions denying care to people. It's about time they disappear, they've been ripping us off since the 70's ! Enough is enough, don't you think? If they can't lower premiums and expand coverage they must go !!!

[synapsecracklepop]

Take a number now, Spamorama.

[gobigorange99]

You must work for an insurance company. Anybody that has two brain cells that rub together would be for a public option.

[SabuPtolemy]

"One last time kids: The public option will inevitably put private insurers out of business."

You mean, the same private insurers who've been getting filthy stinking rich off Americans for decades while denying tens of thousands of people in life or death cases the care they needed when they needed it most?

NOBODY will miss those death panels.

[fishhead06]

Even in Canada, which has ONLY a single-payer option to provide medical care, there exists private insurers to cover those things not covered by the public plan. So much for private insurers being put out of business. And, moreover, if health care was provided below cost - it would be impossible to sustain. And yet countries have been providing sustainable public health insurance for half a century or more, more cheaply, efficiently, and with better outcomes than the US.

[wmg111]

Thanks for that.

From a Canadian who is more than happy with his healthcare, pre-existing conditions notwithstanding.

[2tsaybow]

bigkeys72 - do you have health insurance? I own a small business and I would be happy to pay the government for a public option. My costs have risen by 110% in less than five years. You really don't know what the insurance agencies are doing to the American public. We don't need PROFIT in this industry. We need good health and that is not what Pharma and the Insurance dudes are providing. Don't tell us what will happen in your imaginary world. Let's look at what is really on the table.

[bigkeys72]

Your costs have risen because of stupid gov't intervention in the marketplace.

[OriginalLictre]

Yeah, the conservatives have intervened in the marketplace, when they exempted the health care insurance providers from anti-monopoly legislation, effectively allowing them to engage in collusive bargaining and price-fixing.

If free-market capitalists are so sure that the government is incapable of competing in a competitive marketplace, why are they convinced that a gov't-run program will drive private insurers out of business? Is the business model of medical insurance that weak?

[tj5555555]

s-72 : they are not stupid , they are brain washed and you argue against a white washed wall that has no ears to hear. Yet the readers see the folly of their argument. So your effort is valuable. Speak on brother. tj

[tj5555555]

s-72: Lib cowards block opposing points of view. They are the queens of the thumb down blockers because they fear the truth getting out for they know the readers are wakening to think for themselves. Obama has lost his grip on them. tj

[MooseOfReason]

My gosh, they're disagreeing with proposed legislation! Treason!

[fishhead06]

How do you interpret me as even remotely suggesting that? I just think that if a party has a mandate in the executive and legislative branches to pass legislation - they should: With Republican support, if possible; without, if necessary.

[MooseOfReason]

You said "obstructionism." I guess I see their actions in a different light.

Also, what do you mean by "mandate"?

[fishhead06]

I mean that the Democratic Party has the majority of seats in both houses of Congress, and a majority of the electorate and the electoral college voted for Pres. Obama. His policy platform, including health care, was not a secret - it was a major component of his campaign. Hence, he and the Democratic Party have a popular mandate to act on his platform.

[MooseOfReason]

fishhhead06, My point is that they didn't get 100% of the votes in the elections for Congress or the presidency, and that the people voting no are representing the people who voted for someone else.

[fishhead06]

If you're going to use 100% support as the bar for passing legislation, you'll be waiting for legislation for a long time.

[MooseOfReason]

fishhead06, No. I'm saying 100% would be a mandate. Less than that, namely around 53% of people who are registered to vote and actually came out to vote, is not a mandate.

[OriginalLictre]

The only legislative body that required 100% agreement to make a change in their national procedures THAT I'M AWARE OF, was the pre-WWII Polish government. That led to such drastic gridlock to change in any sense that when the Wehrmacht came over their border, among the units that had to try to fight them were horse-mounted cavalry using sabers and single-shot rifles, facing motorized infantry with MG support, modern artillery, and TANKS.

Good luck insisting on 100% agreement on anything.

[MooseOfReason]

OriginalLictre, You know I'm not suggesting that.

[OriginalLictre]

That may be the case, but when the prior administration claimed to have a 'mandate', with barely 51% of the acting electorate, they rather lowered the bar on what's needed to claim a mandate.

However, when more than 70% of the people surveyed, regardless of party affiliation, are in favor of having an option to buy in to a medicare-style coverage, I think THAT can fairly be considered a mandate.

[tj5555555]

why does he studder so much, searching for just the right words to create a distortion of the facts without making a flat out lie. Must say he seems to be getting better at it with all the practice. tj

[OrbisFerrum]

You're begging the question. You start with the assumption that they are lying to you and then you try to find "evidence" that this is actually the case.

It's far more reasonable to assume that he stutters because he's trying to chose his words correctly or that he has a mild speech impediment or he's just nervous.

That being said it doesn't discount the possibility that he's lying but it is not evidence of it.

[tj5555555]

O-um: What question? Do you mean my question of , why does he studder? No, begging, no assumptions, no evidence, nothing of what you say, just commenting that he seems to have learned the studdering style of communication from his boss, mr obama. tj

[tj5555555]

wow, you folks must really hate any criticism of your guy's mouth piece. It only took less than 50 minutes to thumbs down my comment. Just shows what cowards you are that you must manipulate away dissent. You only allow free speech if it conforms to your opinion. tj

[bigkeys72]

They did the same to one of my comments. Leftists are such hypocrites.

[tj5555555]

s72: thx for the back-up. Let's not surrender any turf , be it public forum or actually private property or freedoms. The South is a stronghold of traditional values and is on the rise again. There are alot of Yankees that have come down here and bring with them skills and tallent. They also bring with them first hand knowledge of what it's like to be over run by liberals. Not here, & not on my watch. Resist or die. The South is this National Republic's Last stand. We will stand. tj

[asphyxiafeeling]

tj and bigkeys: quit crying about a website feature. if you make comments like that you're gonna get thumbs down. If i go to a video with lots of right wingers viewing and say something i usually get thumbs down too. I think the only hypocrites here are you guys always playing the victim and accusing the other side of being hateful. if you really can't stand it petition tpmtv to disable comment rating!

[tj5555555]

a-ing: we cry not about the liberal's tactics, but rather glory in the fact of the exposure of the true nature of the liberal. It proves the point that if you scratch a liberal , you expose a nazi, that will exceed all norms of civil behavior in order to exert their will. The truth is plain to see, no matter how liberals try to hide it. Liberals deny freedom of speech unless it agrees with their opinion. Cowards in sheep's clothing. tj

[bleunt]

stop being such pussies. democrats should grow some balls.

[3star2nr]

good fuck him and fuck bipartisanship

Ram that shit through and stop this republican circle jerk session

[cosmosgato]

Yes!

At this point the republicans have created such an hysteria within there own ranks they can not possibly work with the President.

You can't call someone Hitler and then say Yeah I can work with him.

[tj5555555]

ato: well you know that the left always spoke respectfully of bush , didn't they? Rude is the order of the day and will be until someone is raised up to be a National Statesman that is respectable and not a phony politician like these current office holders. Throw ALL the bums out Reps & Dems. tj

[bigkeys72]

I concur. I want the Dems to pass this bill on their own with no Republican support, so they can get their asses booted out in 2010. The Republicans don't have the votes to stop this so I find it laughable how everyone is blaming them for the problem.

[charbroiledmonk1033]

the only reason why the dems would get there asses booted out is if they did not pass a bill that had a public option. If anything this situation has shown how much of a non-progress fearmongering retard the republican party is. Your leaders are bought out by lobbyists and your contituents are sheep of the lowest intelligence. The republicans do not have a competing plan, so they are trying to block or delay this bill. We dont need them, and if the dems smartened up, theyd give the GOP a big FU.

[bigkeys72]

First of all, the GOP are not "my leaders." 2nd of all, they do have competing plans but they have been ignored by King Obama. Finally, yes the Dems would get their asses booted out if they passed this, not everyone is a bunch of SEIU thugs and ACORN losers who live in their Momma's basement. Fact of the matter is, the Dems have the votes, they don't need GOP input, they don't have the balls to pass this thing because the people would get even madder than we are now.

[WKaliberr]

first motherfuckers!

[Innize]

Cool story, bro.

[TiTSxxMcGEE]

you missed 1st by 8min

[CliveSinclairZX]

OHHHH!