Punk: Attitude Part 3

[PAULisDEADMANnumber9]

I love Sylvain Sylvain.

[emmers57]

I always felt that Television as very french as well. I figure it was the guy named "Verlaine"

[desasterz]

I saw Television aybe 20 times I think... ... ... Man!

[desasterz]

Yeah, it was totally amazing for me to hear the first Patti Smith record.

[Flipper79able]

Even though all these people.... American punks and English punks probably look back with some enjoyment on the old days they act like adults and don't take it all too seriously......John Lydon on the other hand will defend his legacy with the heart and mind of a child or at least a teenager. He takes himself soooo seriously.

[punkrocklives13]

WHAT SONG IS THS 5:24

[BadComenter]

@punkrocklives13 Blitzkrieg bop

[natritious1]

@punkrocklives13 Its called I dont wanna walk around with you. For an ex punk I totally make you look like a poooooserrrr :p

[dreadlockrob1]

Blank Generation,perfect description of that era,left alone to come up with your own thoughts and feeling and expression.Today nothing but sheep when it comes to music. MUSICK SUCKS DICK NOW!

[PeterMayer]

Always loved Gilda Radner doing her "Patti Smith".

[desasterz]

Everyone, I have made a video about boy bands and the music buisness and talking about underground music. You TUbe have tried to dissable the sound but I put the text in the "Description" box under the screen. Please come and check it out!

[Chippy215Boss]

Jimi Hendrix was a big influenece in punk too when he plays with his teeth and he smashed his guitar

[JackM2409]

4:46 nobody forced you tae listen tae us ya cock

[SCrewedEntertainment]

@JackM2409 tak it yer scottish

[TheZoostudio13]

@SCrewedEntertainment No, we have quite an amount of amazing music today just not as much. You just need to look for it but its there.

[JackM2409]

4:46 nobody asked you tae listen tae it ya cock 

[2jacd]

this thing needs to focus more on the british scene...

[lirannine]

whats the song on 9:09?

[emmers57]

@lirannine Psycho Killer by the Talking Heads

[PeterMayer]

I can say that I've played at CBGBs which I'll always feel honored, although in was Cec. of 85.

[Andalenorokori]

I love it when everybody in the band plays a different song at the same time.... their reactions amuse me...

[sloanmidwestXTC]

love suicide.

[juden187]

wats the song at 1:18

[desasterz]

@juden187 It's "Litte Johnny Jewel" dude

[DIZTOMAK]

television is a greath baaaaand!!

PuNk noT dEAd!

[chickypickyyeah]

Husker Du?

[livershot]

In defense of Thurston, his squid eating anecdote from "We Jam Econo" is one of my favorite music doc quotes ever

[antvillain]

ive seen thurston moore (guy from sonic youth) in a few other documentaries and each time he tries to say something profound but it ends up just being completly obvious and what everyone already knows. it makes me doubtful that his band is anything interesting or if that completly obvious. ha

[piledriver89]

@antvillain sonic youth are pretty wank

[ajonetto]

What I really dont like about this overall well done and researched documentary is the unexplainable omission of the whole American 80s hardcore punk scene. I mean, they show Limp Bizkit and Blink 182 and they skip Bad Religion, Social Distortion, NOFX, Descendents and the Misfits? YOU GOTTA BE FUCKING KIDDING ME MAN

[hitlerlovedjews11]

@ajonetto thats because nofx is queer

[mig11280]

Does anybody who what the song is called at 3:39? Right after Bob Gruen talks about Jake Kerouac's on The Road.

[Jedi4531]

@mig11280 It's called "Blank Generation" by Richard Hell and the Voidoids

[mig11280]

@Jedi4531 Thank you :D

[hemilover52]

patti smith is like the only cool person to ever come out from my shitty area

[johnmoser01]

What's that television song?

[desasterz]

@johnmoser01 It's called "Little Johnny Juwel". It's on the Marquee Moon album if you can find the vertion with the bonus trackes.

[johnmoser01]

@desasterz Damn, because I have Marquee Moon, I never knew there were bonus tracks.

[Capz541]

4:40 john lydon ripped his own clothes too. there are two ways to look at it. one reason people did this was because they had to keep their clothes together, the other reason was for shock value and too both appaul and confuse the masses...

[suedhead99]

The British ripped off Punk from New York...

[GilbertSyndrome]

@suedhead99

Not exactly, the Pistols were put together by Mclarin, they ripped off the Ramones in a way, then, influenced by the Ramones you had the Clash, Damned and a couple of others who went more on the Pistols style then the Ramones, look at the Clash, they changed their style every time they made a record. The Pistols were shit and they failed.

[RadioFriendlyNoise]

@GilbertSyndrome really? Seems the Pistols influenced a shit load of people in a short amount of time. The Pistols were great, one record helped change the music industry in a good way.

So what they imploded, their mark is huge.

[GilbertSyndrome]

@RadioFriendlyNoise

Second generation bands were influenced by the Pistols, first generation were influenced by the Ramones. In my eyes, John "i can't believe its not butter!" Lydon and the rest of the gang lost my respect when they booted Matlock out in favour of that good for nothing crack-head poster boy Sid. I'll give them some credit for giving the infinately better Clash the inspiration to go out and make good records.

[GilbertSyndrome]

@RadioFriendlyNoise

Second generation bands were influenced by the Pistols, first generation were influenced by the Ramones. In my eyes, John "i can't believe its not butter!" Lydon and the rest of the gang lost my respect when they booted Matlock out in favour of that good for nothing crack-head poster boy Sid. I'll give them some credit for giving the infinately better Clash the inspiration to go out and make good records.

[GilbertSyndrome]

@RadioFriendlyNoise

Second generation bands were influenced by the Pistols, first generation were influenced by the Ramones. In my eyes, John "i can't believe its not butter!" Lydon and the rest of the gang lost my respect when they booted Matlock out in favour of that good for nothing crack-head poster boy Sid. I'll give them some credit for giving the infinately better Clash the inspiration to go out and make good records.

[GilbertSyndrome]

@RadioFriendlyNoise

Second generation bands were influenced by the Pistols, first generation were influenced by the Ramones. In my eyes, John "i can't believe its not butter!" Lydon and the rest of the gang lost my respect when they booted Matlock out in favour of that good for nothing crack-head poster boy Sid. I'll give them some credit for giving the infinately better Clash the inspiration to go out and make good records.

[RadioFriendlyNoise]

@GilbertSyndrome Actually The Ramones are a part of the first generation of punk bands along with the Pistols. Yes they influenced the pistols, but the Pistols were just as influential.

Yea they booted Matlock oh well shit happens. Pistols are still great no matter how you look at it.

[GilbertSyndrome]

@RadioFriendlyNoise

The Pistols wouldn't have made it anywhere if it hadn't been for the Ramones, same with the Damned, Clash etc. What i meant was that not many 1st gen bands were as interested in the Pistols as they were the Ramones, its just that seeing the Pistols made everyone think "so, it is easy then..." Shit does indeed happen, but i think kicking a decent bassist out for a poster pin up boy like Sid is shameful. I thought punk wasn't about looking good.

[GilbertSyndrome]

@RadioFriendlyNoise

I personally never liked the Pistols, i hated Mclarin and Westwood and John Lydon just seemed like an arse, i met him twice and left thinking "what an arse..." All of that swearing on the Grundy show and throwing piss at eachother backstage just basically gave the whole scene a bad name, i actually missed seeing the Damned/Clash because the Pistols caused such a stir with their idiocy, i always disliked them after that.

[RadioFriendlyNoise]

@GilbertSyndrome I find what the Pistols did to be funny. Mclarin was a cock. Lydon can be an ass, but Mclarin is obviously the biggest douche out of the whole band and management.

[johnmoser01]

What is at 3:43

[mansfieldtim3]

shut up with out the UK you wouldn't have the great punk rock band you do have ! So keep your stupied opinons to yourself !

[panbread89]

4:33,Thats part of the reason why I hate UK "punk".

[Teamsleeper]

i find that horses song extremely annoying man... i don't consider patti smith's music as punk, she may have been part of the whole punk movement but i really don't consider her a punk artist... suicide is the real deal man

[desasterz]

lol, 1.40 I thought that was Julian Casablancas! He loves Television, he's quite right, they are absolutely stunning! Verlain is a genious and so is Lloyde and Richard Hell too. I think without his involvement early on in the band, Tom would be Flowing but not as provocative and edgy. Especially the solos on Foxhole. Television are one of the best guitar bands ever, shame they didnt make manny records..

[13thfloor18]

They are captivating, fuck I need to get a band started.

[desasterz]

@13thfloor18 Yeah!!! I'm in a band called the Desasterz I've writen a hole album and now I had to move to England away from my parisian band mates and now I'm writing a second album wile i wait. lool

Fuck being signed, I don't have to wait. Have fun with ur band

[Aleowiciuos]

If Patti Smith chewed gum like that in front of me I would have punched her in the jaw.

[PoppyCrust]

what was the 2:39 song by patti smith?

[kissarmy333]

whats the song richard hell playing at 3:38?

[cpunctn]

It's " Blank Generation"

[jesselakerr]

what song are the ramones playing at 5:25?!?!? it sound awesome!!!!!

[pnkroq]

It's "I Dont' Wanna Walk Around With You"

[thatkisskilled666]

I love them... and i have no idea.

[pukeonmyshoe2130]

suicide is more of noise music along the lines of scratch acid and the butthole surfers if u ask me its still good tho

[dudeson389]

Song at 3:45???

What is it???

[ladyfuzz1966]

Richard Hell & the Voidoids - Blank generation

[40fluidounces]

"i had no idea they were so fabulous."

hahaha thats great

[Reint25]

Yeah, that made me laugh too.

[blank297]

THE MUTHER FUKKKKKING RAMONES

[pukeonmyshoe2130]

dude i just stole a romones cd from wallmart its there toughest hits cd i was lookin for the new rancid but it wernt around so i grabed that and im fuxin glad i did man

[darwinator12932112]

i think im the only television lover at school well except my history teacher hes cool

[Mordaruis]

yeah I did, and the barely talk about em.

They certainly don't go into as much detail as they did for the Voidoids even though without the Heartbreakers there wouldn't be any Voidoids.

[Mordaruis]

I wonder why no documentaries ever talk about Johnny Thunders and The Heartbreakers.

they were easily as influential as anyone else.

[jesselakerr]

dude it is in this doc just keep wathcing

[thefoxrox1]

@Mordaruis Short answer: Because they weren't. They were around for a couple of years (if even) and made one well known song that wasn't even written by them. They were a group of junkies. Thats why.

[mrfudgeyhead]

@Mordaruis

They mention Richard Hell and Television, so I guess they just assume you get the jist.

[ZRN959]

@Mordaruis They're kind of an after thought after The Dolls and early Television

[desasterz]

@Mordaruis They do at one point, but they only talk about how they brought a certain kind of drug over to England and ruined the 100 club cene

[jaycr2006]

@Mordaruis maybe they need to hire you as their PR agent...

[levishock2001]

CBGBs is no more, they shut that place down because the new owners wanted to turn it into a fucking sports bar. A FUCKING SPORTS BAR!! WHAT THE FUCK!!

[kittenclaws]

CBGB's had been... less hardcore for a while, though, sadly.

[ElectroX24]

I love this documentary but I'm really really upset that they couldn't atleast mention the Misfits They were a huge inspiration for a lot of bands

[RockRican]

I love how some the greatest punk bands I know connect to each other like some family - Richard Hell and the Voidoids, Johnny Thunders/Heartbreakers, Television, and even aunti Patti Smith. You don't get more from New York than them. hmm...'cept maybe the Dictators

[HamburgerMartyr]

That Suicide record rules. Why didn't they talk about Throbbing Gristle?

[mozchandeb]

The diversity of "the scene" in New York eaely on was incredible because it was organic -those people had absorbed culture and as a result were counter-cultural. What happened in England was based purely on McLaren's cynical and opportunistic sense of the sensational, and its sad what people think of when they think of "Punk". The Dolls, The Ramones, Blondie, Talking Heads, Suicide etc never spat hate or bile at anyone - they were tyring to be constructive within pop culture.

[kidcalabria]

And The Clash weren't? What are you people on? No wonder R&R is just a product to consume nowadays & even smoking cigarettes is banned!!!

[SwordOfCrystalis]

Whats wrong with banning people from poisoning an establishment where food is served? Common sense if you ask me.

[kidcalabria]

1) People should be free to do what they like 2) Let's have no-smoking restaurants, allow smoking in others; for restaurants are not public places: they're open to the public, but ownership is private. If one has clients who smoke he should be allowed to let them do so 3) To ban something 'cos it's deemed 'antisocial' creates a dangerous precedent in law. Governments should never interfere with individuals' liberties 4) If you think that water, food, etc.. are not poisoned nowadays, think again

[SwordOfCrystalis]

OK so we should also have restuarants where its ok to murder people, and molest children. Poisoning the air is also interfereing with peoples personal liberties. Its not banned because its anti social, its banned because its a health hazard in the worste of places, a restuarant.

[04r13403]

and if you allow smoking in certain establishments (eg pubs/bars) it gives a reason for names like "smokey Joe's" etc it would be ace!

[DenSnuskigaFilmen]

Patti Smith reminds me of Johnny Thunders

[1039SMOOTHOUTSLAPPY]

I love the ramones =)=)

[DeeDonner]

Saw Patti Smith and Be-Bop Deluxe at Ford Auditorium March 1976!!! It was my first date with a real live girl!

[PeterMayer]

@DeeDonner wow!

[crazyfills]

@DeeDonner implying you've dated a dead / fake girl?

[SimonRamone1]

Thanks for uploading!

[cc305dd]

what a fucking damn' movie...no synths! no love and peace!"american hardcore"is the punk movie!

[Anvilpants]

american hardcore changed my life.