Doesn't acknowledging things like the rising of Surtsey kind of hurt the whole idea of creationism? New islands forming is a bit of a contradiction of the idea that there was a creation, that's over and finished, and everything was made just as it is, now.
no, I would not, I'm a trained geologist/scientist. why would you ask? I didn't say anything that actually supports creationism, if that's your issue. I was just giving my take on why creationists are the way they are, which to summarize: 1-creationism seems to thrive with idiots, 2-their motives vary, and 3, I have no idea what they mean by "Evilutionist", they tend to use it on people who accept things from the big bang to evolution.
You assume that things are going as they have always been before.
The reality is that things have not always been the same as we see them today.
Pacific ocean, as we see it today, was made in a very short time when the water settled after the global flood.
Current icemelt is now putting more pressure on the ocean floor plates and will cause great earthqakes associate with the Pacific ocean plates and possibly the Atlantic plates.
I'm an evolutionist and I hate this video. Just because one creationist thinks something you don't agree with doesn't mean they're all stupid you pretentious twat.
No, you're not. The word evolutionist is ONLY used by creationists. Yet again, this dishonest tactic shows that creationists are liars with no morals.
@shanedk You mad bro? So, only creationists call others evolutionists since I don't know that's what their called. Do you call yourself a Non-creationist or just a fucktard because that's what I'd call you. BTW Carl Sagan and Richard Dawkins Creationist while your at it since they call themselves evolutionists.
@Tomtaylorross "Evolutionist" is a made-up term by creationists to make evolution sound like a religion. And Dawkins and Sagan call(ed) themselves "biologists."
@shanedk I thought that remark "I'm an evolutionist" was funny too. Evolution is widely accepted as fact, adding the "ist" is basically reducing it to a kooky idea held by a few fanatics, which is exactly what creationists are.
@8698gil Evolution is not a fact because it is accepted. there is no proof proving definitively the concept of adaption. I'm not disagreeing with your beliefs, but its still the theory of adaption or whatever, not the law of evolution. Everyone widely believed the world was flat, and another culture widely believed the earth was the center of the universe, until proven otherwise. It is widely accepted by billions on the earth that Allah/God/Yahweh created the Earth.
@8698gil I would describe my self as talib, seeker of knowledge. I am not ready to rule out evolution. I am more willing to reconcile my spiritual beliefs with verifiable facts. But your argument, I think was fallacy-ridden. Anyway, This videos author is obnoxious. Reminds me of....me! haha lol.
ALTHOUGH I'M A CONSERVATIVE CHRISTIAN (Baptist), I no longer believe that the Bible teaches eternal torment or suffering. The Bible teaches eternal punishment, but it's not eternal torment. In my popular Internet article, TRADITIONAL DOCTRINE OF HELL EVOLVED FROM GREEK ROOTS, I explain how and why teaching of eternal torment entered early into Christianity and how Scriptures have been misinterpreted and taken out of context to support that teaching. ~Babu G. Ranganathan (B.A. theology/biology
GOD, HEAVEN, AND SEX: Internet article examines the Biblical possibility of sex in heaven. Human sexuality isn't just for reproduction. There are reasons the Bible requires marriage for sex on earth, but those reasons won't exist in heaven. Scripture teaches, in heaven, we'll be like the angels only in one sense - no marriage, but we won't be like angels in every other way (i.e. Bible says we'll enjoy food and drink). Psalm 16:11 says there will be great spiritual joy and pleasures in heaven.
SCIENCE SHOWS THAT THE UNIVERSE could not have sustained itself eternally because of entropy. Einstein confirmed that space, matter, and time had a beginning! That beginning had to be supernatural because natural laws have no ability to bring the universe into existence from nothing. The supernatural cannot be proved by science but science points to a supernatural intelligence for the origin and order of the universe ~ HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM (Article)
NATURAL LIMITS TO EVOLUTION: Only evolution within "kinds" is genetically possible (i.e. varieties of dogs, cats, etc.), but not evolution across "kinds" (i.e. from worm to human). How were species living, reproducing if their reproductive system, vital structures, and organs hadn't evolved yet? Read my Pravda Internet article: WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS! I discuss: Punctuated Equilibrium, "Junk DNA," genetics, mutations, natural selection, fossils, genetic/biological similarities between species.
ALL REAL EVOLUTION ( i.e. varieties of dogs, cats, etc.) is the expression, over time, of already existing genes. Evolution is possible only if there’s information (genes) directing it. Only variations of already existing genes are possible, which means only limited evolution and adaptations are possible. Nature has no ability to invent new genes via random mutations caused by random environmental forces. That’s evolutionary faith, not science. Read my article, WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS!
GENETIC INFORMATION DOESN'T HAPPEN BY CHANCE, so it's more logical to believe that genetic similarities between all forms of life are due to a common Designer who designed similar functions for similar purposes. It doesn't mean all forms of life are biologically related! "Junk DNA" isn't junk. These non-coding segments of DNA have recently been found to be vital in regulating gene expression. Read: WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS!
DAWKINS, HITCHENS, AND HAWKING REFUSE TO DEBATE with creationists who are SCIENTISTS, such as the scientists at The Institute for Creation Research. Dawkins and his friends only debate non-scientist creationists. Read my popular Internet articles: ARE FOSSILS REALLY MILLIONS OF YEARS OLD? HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM, ANY LIFE ON MARS CAME FROM EARTH, WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS! MISSING LINKS THAT NEVER WERE!
NOT ALL EVOLUTIONISTS even agree on the fossils used to support and reconstruct human evolution. The bones are incomplete. There's no certainty of the bones belonging to the same creature. They can reconstruct whatever they want from these bones, and they have. There's no hard evidence that humans evolved from an ape-like creature anymore than there's hard evidence that apes evolved from a four-legged- pawed dog-like creature. Read my article: MISSING LINKS THAT NEVER WERE
ARE FOSSILS REALLY MILLIONS OF YEARS OLD? Popular Internet article that examines assumptions concerning fossil deposition as well as built-in assumptions involved in modern radiometric dating (not used for dating fossils but other rocks), and arguments from starlight and time. Discusses lack of true transitional forms and lack of sequence of the fossil layers. Discusses mixed species in fossils (i.e. dinosaur, reptile, mammal fossils in the same stratum conveniently ignored by evolutionists).
DO EYES CARRY SCARS OF EVOLUTION? Read this fantastic Internet article by biologist and creationist Brian Thomas. Thomas refutes every argument for a "flawed" design for the eye, and explains how and why the so-called flaw is actually the best thing for the eye. Read the article! It's amazing what facts evolutionists will ignore. Numerous times evolutionists have been proven wrong about their interpretation of a structure as being flawed in design or useless
BLIND WATCHMAKER NO ARGUMENT. Natural selection is no "blind watchmaker" because it can only "select" from traits having survival value. It doesn't produce those traits. It only operates once there is life and reproduction, not before, so it couldn't be involved in life's origins. A partially-evolved cell (an oxymoron) would quickly disintegrate. It couldn't wait ("survive") millions of years for chance to complete it and then make it living! Read: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM
All the Creationists and Tea Partiers like Nephilim need to be given a single state--Texas would be perfect, and allowed to secede, and then fenced in where they would be quarantined. Then they can be as extreme as they want, as nutty as they want--while the rest of us move forward. When that nut Governor Perry started talking secession the minute Obama was elected, we should have jumped at the chance.
Nephy would hate it here in Texas now since the Texas Freedom Network forced the douches in the Texas School Board to give up their evil plot to indoctrinate kids. They got ripped to shreds in court, and were forced to allow Evolution in the textbooks.
@NUTCASE71733 Maybe there's hope for Texas after all. I fear the integrity of the court system is gradually being eroded by the appointment of right wing nutjobs. Eventually the courts will be on board the looney wagon as well, and we will not be able to expect rational court decisions.
Sporty has to get attention some how. Being stupid gets him more attention than being educated. Remember it's his bible thumping friends who pays his bills. He has no life or J.O.B.
What happens when you die? Have you told lies, stolen, used God's name in vain(10 Commandments)? If yes, then you're a liar, thief, and a blasphemer in the sight of God. When you die & be judged by God, you'll be guilty of sin, & go to Hell! But God sent His Son Jesus to shed His blood & die on a cross for your sins, He was buried & rose again from the dead on the third day. If you'll believe the Gospel(Jesus's death for your sins, His burial & resurrection)you'll not perish & have eternal life
I love how you laid it all out easily enough a 2nd grader could understand, not that a 2nd grader would care about what either of your opinions, lol. The fact remains that a religious person or creationist person's brain simply CAN NOT view actual scientific evidence as a normal person, they instead always have that overshadowing theory no matter what a person can say, if it even slightly contradicts/refutes their beliefs THEY WILL NOT TAKE IT SERIOUSLY. Which is sad, really...
I know this vid is 2 years old, but there's just something fun about watching nephiphliar having his arse handed to him so eloquently. And the best part about it is he still is too dumb to believe it's happening.
I think NephilimFree makes a great point in regards to how evolution isnt correct. Not by anything that comes out of hes mouth, but with the fact that with hes existence it seems to indicated that evolution is going backwards. Sooner or later Creationists will get hairy hands and eventually turn into monkeys and by doing so disproving the way current evolution is explained.
Because, lets not forget how well suited the banana (Thx for this insight Kirk Cameron) is for us monkeys.
@Lobos222 Luckily for the human race, information is not a genetically inherited trait. There's still hope for humanity because videos like shanedk's can provide a "cure" of sorts for the type of ignorance generally found in Creationist circles.
There is no limit to creationist stupidity- it is literally boundless. They have no idea what they're talking about, but that doesn't deter them from pontificating endlessly. And Nephy is one of the best examples of this. What he knows of science would fit in a thimble with lots of room left over.
Nephy has removed his video now. I really want to know what goes on in his head, like does he know that he is laughably wrong about just about everything, yet just trudges forward out of stubbornness?
IMO I guess the islands being in the ring of fire have sumpin to do with it and not this floating seafloor theory. Why else would one of the largest molten lava lakes be on the Big Island (Hawaii) if it had floated past the hot spots. I still think its the ring of fire and thats why you're gonna have active volcano's all around the ring. Just food thought since ppl need to go further under the crust and look at the Ring of Fire as a possible step in the creation of the islands. Peace
@JimmyCarol100 The ring of fire is just that - a ring. Hawaii is in the middle of it, thousands of miles away from any of the plate collisions that cause the volcanoes. That is because Hawaii is on a hot spot. It still is partially on the hot spot, seeing as the volcano is still active, though it is beginning to breach at a new location and is working on a new island.
@gimmethegepgun@JesterAzazel May I suggest a video here on YT, its more of a documentary and in 4, 10 min clips. it was uploaded by KurdstanPlanetarium and is called "The Ring of Fire P1" thru P4, please neither reply until you watch these at least. Thank you for your time. If your interested in plate tectonics and ring of fire you'll see the correlation between the the two.
@JimmyCarol100 Watched it, was interesting. It didn't really make any link between the ring and Hawaii, though, only noting that Hawaii is right in the middle of it.
@gimmethegepgun did you not catch the part where the ring of fire is where the tectonic plates meet. Another thing I did to get a better picture of things, was google search "ring of fire tectonic plates" together. Web search & Images, alot of info though. It just shows the ring of fire & tectonic plates R N correlation to each other & not thousands of miles apart. Main point is all the islands n the ring are still above active/ dormant volcano's & were not formed by sliding over hot spots.Peace
@JimmyCarol100 I'm not talking about the plate boundaries that make the actual ring, I'm talking about the Hawaiian Islands, which are right in the middle of the plate. If you reread your above comment, it sounds like you're saying the Hawaiian Islands were made by the Ring of Fire, and my first comment was questioning the relationship between them. The video you sent was interesting, but showed no relation between the Ring itself and Hawaii, just the fact that Hawaii is in the middle of it.
@gimmethegepgun I think I finally understand what ur sayn, since the islands are more or less centered on the Pacific plate, what is building the islands? If this is right, from what I've read about the formation is, that over time as the plate moves 5-10cm per year, over vast amounts of time when a thinner/weaker part of the plate passes over a "hot spot" of molten lava and if the pressure is strong enough it breaks thru & creates a new island. I think. Peace
@gimmethegepgun By the way, just wanna let you know I've enjoyed our discussion, which for me is hard- trying to talk to someone by typeing since I just joined YT in July 10 and started tryn to communicate via typeing. Some people go over board with language and hostility when its just simple misunderstandings. I'm a dis-abled Vet and spent many years around all types of different people and realize we're not gonna agree all the time, but that does'nt mean we still can't get along. Peace2You
Here's the part that gets me: he's talking about currents and eddies functioning as forces that wear the Hawaiian Islands down over time. Sure he's wrong about practically everything...but he's internalized the concept of Uniformitarianism.
This is why, ultimately, we're winning: so many ideas from science have entered the public consciousness that people internalize them.
Creationist are a disgrace to humanity, Stupidity on this level should be illegal!! The human race will be far better off without these failed abortions...
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Cant you just live for yourself? why do you feel the need to bust on anyone for what they believe? i mean honestly think about it.. that person who he is (educating) isnt going to become anyone of value, let them just talk. and i can ASSURE YOU them talking to each other being nice to each other is doing BOTH of them alot more good then NOT talking. unlike you. sitting here calling them both fools while you are alone. and pissed at them.. for being stupid... see what i mean? it doesnt MATTER!
@SatansMullet Because they're causing REAL HARM! It DOES matter when extra class time has to be spent in colleges (and a LOT of it does) in order to correct all this misinformation. I've talked to professors of biology and anthropology who say they have to sometimes spend the entire first semester just getting rid of the bogus ideas the creationists have put into the minds of the students. That's REAL HARM.
@shanedk I agree with you shane. I am a teacher and it takes longer to unteach wrong ideas than it takes to teach proper ideas in the first place. Inhibiting the educational development of people is real harm.
@shanedk OK.Here's what REALLY happened;The Demigod Maui,sick of being ridiculed by his brothers as a poor fisherman ,got a magic hook from his father.In deep sea,he cast the hook and caught something ENOURMOUS.His brothers paddled mightily for 2 days and Maui strained at the line as sea mounts slowly rose from the sea.the paddlers turned to look in wonder, and the line slacked leaving only 7 peaks exposed..the Hawaiian Island chain...there guys..THATS SCIENCE!!(they never got the hook back)
@SatansMullet but seriously... the guy thinks that theres dozens of tiny streams of current flowing through an otherwise completely still ocean, and always in exactly the same place. and everything in between is completely still. seriously! that was some fucked up shit, It is literally one of the stupidest things I have ever heard, anyone who believes anything that stupid and just will not listen to reason has to have it ridiculed out of them, its not pretty but sometimes its the only way
Wow, nephy does an amazing job of projecting his many intellectual faults onto his opposition. Nephy has so many baseless assumptions in every thing he says. He hasn't a clue what he is talking about yet seems to believe he speaks with authority. That is kinda of crazy.
Hey not that this has anything to do with your video, but ive stumbled into a claim made by certain creationists that Peruvian Ica stones, showing what they claim appears to be dinosaur sculptures, using this information as justification 'to show' that apparently dinosaurs and humans co-existed, was wondering if i could get some kind of rebuttle to that claim, as i havent been able to fin any as yet. Thanks
@utumano Hey utumano - in a nutshell, the Andesite Dinosaur stones were fabricated by a local farmer who wanted to sell "authentic" Inca artifacts to tourists. He began claiming that he had found thousands of them in a cave while exploring the jungle. Soon after he began making these claims, Peruvian authorities raided his property because it is illegal to sell archeological artifacts. He then admitted he had made the stones himself, and testing confirmed modern paints and tools were used.
@utumano Compare those known to be genuine (and only those known to be genuine) to indigenous animals of the area and you'll see some lovely correlations, chameleons as an example.
I think the hard part about arguing with someone like Neph' is that if you try to do it responsibly, and supply FACTS to back-up your assertions, you're already at a disadvantage - due to the fact that he suffers no such constraints, and is able (or should I say willing) to twist facts to support his conjectures, and unfortunately, he is just educated enough to do it in a way that sounds plausible to the uninformed.
@steveb0503 that fucker just makes up shit as he goes along. Ask him a set of questions (if you're not blocked) and he'll give you a crappy attempt at answering the most convenient ones and ignore the ones he can't account for. The man has absolutely NO academic integrity or honesty.
I'm just doing an analysis in an attempt to help anyone who might put it (and other ideas) to use to help limit the effects of this and other "mind viruses".
I don't have the time and energy to "do battle" with such willfully ignorant twerps as Neph' (I would prefer to talk to people who seem to exhibit SOME consideration for viewpoints other than their own pre-existing ones).
You know what amazes me the most? These people are enjoying the fruits of science, and yet, they are still claiming earth is 6k years old. It really does not compute. That would be like god is standing right in front of me, creating hotties out of my ribs, and I still remain as an atheist.
Poor old Neph. Everything in black and white. Of couse geological process take millions of years but they can also happen nigh on instantly. There is no contradiction here because that is the way it is. I cannot remember which but there is one island in the Hawaian chain that shows clear evidence of an almost instant subsidence into the ocean. I do wish he would do some research but then again how would be able to make any videos?
As a geologist currently studying at University of Hawaii at Hilo; bravo to you sir. Keep putting scientific ideals out there and supporting the Scientific Method.
Just as a heads up, Kaua`i is said (Ka-vie-ee) in case any local 808 people stumble upon this and gripe at you.
@ocjuiceman24 Thanks. I deciphered the pronunciation from the Wikipedia entry; I guess they go with common pronunciations and not necessarily the original language.
@shanedk Its no worries. Also could you please rebut his Geology for Evolutionist series? Its an afront to my field. And he uses the Grand Canyon sequence of rocks to prove a giant flood. Sadly for him, the sediments alone prove there was no great flood.
@WADAMAN808 Where does this come from? I never said I knew the Hawaiian language. As I said, I deciphered the Wikipedia pronunciation as best as I could, which apparently was not based on the actual Hawaiian language.
@shanedk Since it's the subject, you may also look up the pronunciation of "archipelago" (for instance, in answers dot com). Not that it's very important, of course.
@atchisrj1 i usually ask one question and state one fact that stops all bible thumpers in ther tracks including jews,muslims, yes even satansist which buy the way i think is the main problem with debunker's not that they are wrong that they single out mainly christians anyway just ask them about Amenhotep IV he was the first even before the jews that believed in one God and as far as religion as a whole ask them why is it learned it would be a natural part of everyones lives since birth we all
@shanedk What he presented IS the common pronunciation. I was kinda bugged when I heard that too. I know its just nit picking but Ha-vie-ee, Ka-vie-ee? Not a very difficult leap to make. If Wikipedia told you something different it needs to be corrected because it is plain wrong- not common- not "used elsewhere", simply wrong.
As geologist who is currently attending University of Hawaii at Hilo. Bravo sir, and keep fighting the good fight. When you need more earth/structural proof, come see me!
As science proves more and more of religious clap trap to be inane childish excuses they alter their view. Like evolution, god started it off, then it evolved, to Jehovah's Witnesses accepting that dinosaurs existed. There is hope, I hope.
Another thousand years or so....? I can't believe you bother with this guy, having to state basic geology. There are higher intelligent creationist to deal with, if you must.
More importantly, evolution has NOTHING to do with the age og hawaiian islands. evolution. the age of the islands is done through radioactive decay of unstable isotopes in the lava (igneous rock). Real science with empiracle evidence supports an old earth while the bible only supports the ability of man to be a dumbass.
But isn't there a mountain which is higher than Manau Kei and Mt Everest if you measure from the center of the earth instead of looking at the base of the mountain or sea level.
@hobbitsarecool Yes, the top of Mount Chimborazo in Ecuador is the furthest point on land from Earth's center of mass. Everest is something like fifth highest when you count them like that. The reason why is that Earth's rotation results in sea level being higher at the equator.
Thanks. I remember reading that a long time ago. Another question. How does the hot spot from Hawaii stay in the same place? I am a complete idiot when it comes to geology which is why I study chemical engineering.
@hobbitsarecool It doesn't. The same hot spot made ALL the Hawaiian islands. It just moves so slowly we'll never notice the difference in our lifetimes.
No matter which scenario you start with - God or the Big Bang - there always was something to start things out with. With God, he always was - no beginning and no end. With the Big Bang, the matter always existed, just not in the form we know as the universe today. I think if we are courageous, and accept the findings of science instead of trying to silence them out of fear, we will learn more about the wonders of God than we ever dreamed.
I tried to educate Neffee, explaining why his analogy of the solar system to the vortex in one's sink, he tried to attack me... when I pointed out that I'm an engineer, and why is analogy is so bad, he just shut up. He doesn't have the intellect to understand even basic science and engineer.
NephilimFree's stupidity is on par with other youtube YECs, notably Franksreturn and Mack Quigley but he goes above and beyond what god requires a YEC to be in terms of creepiness.
It's good that you have the drive to ward these mongrels off. I don't, but I respect that. That's why it's good to have all kinds of people. Even religius. What would you do all day if all idiots would vanish from the face of the earth?
The problem with that, Kan2209, is that there are too many idiots in the world. If people don't spend their time correcting them, then they will continue to cause trouble for the rest of us. We have to spend our time on them to insure that they become at least a little more educated or at least to ensure that other people know they are idiots and not to listen to them. It'd be a different story if most people were intelligent.
I find it to be a huge waset of time really. There's no changing the idiots mind. It's good to have people loike you, but I'm not really bothered with the ways of the idiot myself, and I think I've chosen a good option there. If an idiot wants' to believe, it doesn't make a difference making it believe any different, it's still just belief to it. It wont understadn the logic behind what everway someone convinces it to act. An endless struggle for people who really aren't worth a turd.
Well, you don't have to be one of the people telling the idiots that they are wrong. If everyone did that, we wouldn't be so advanced. However, some people do have to do that in order to convert some away from stupidity and keep others from believing the stupidity so that things get done even faster tomorrow. This is how people learn better, by being educated. Sure, it is done rather harshly for the true idiots, but it's still necessary for some people to do.
"I find it to be a huge waset of time really. There's no changing the idiots mind." - True, however it is not completely pointless. It only tends to be completely retarded people that really will put themselves out there and talk so much shit. Having a clear opposition does put an awful lot of people off stepping up to the stage. Although it might not be so dramatic, the last time religious numpties had a completely free pass to indulge in nonsense we had the dark ages.
@genobahamut1337 Actually, I've spent most of the last 10 years of my life making a living mostly off of people being stupid. I've been working tech support, which isn't pleasant, but pays the bills, you know?
@genobahamut1337 My point is, I wouldn't have had those jobs if people weren't stupid. Rather a lot of people make their living off of the intentional stupidity of others. I don't see anything wrong with taking advantage of opportunities people make by being intentionally stupid. It's not like I'm coercively taxing them.
@evensgrey I'm not saying anything against what you're doing. Your providing assistance to people who aren't intelligent enough to figure something out. Other people make a living educating people. Both are methods of helping them. I have no problem with that. They could even learn from you helping them through things. The only thing I have a problem with is the idea that we should leave stupid people alone. If we did that, there would be no smart people.
@NOmeansnoFAN That's a good point, I suppose, but there would still be some ignorant people among the stupid and some ignorant people viewing the arguments. Those people can learn and would be benefited from the reasoning that others go through arguing against stupid people. The stupid would be less likely to make more stupid people out of the ignorant.
@evensgrey I must be on a different plane of existence. From my POV, tech support jobs must be given to the brain damaged and the severely mentally retarted as part of a government program to give these imbeciles jobs. 'Cause man, they are IDIOTS!
@shanedk There is suspected to be a bi-direction clue filter in the phone systems.
There's also the fact that tech support's job is generally NOT to help you, but to apply tech support policy to you, which isn't generally very helpful.
Take what I'm going through now with 8x8: they STILL insist the problem is with my ISP because of high ping latency to their server, when I DON'T have high ping latency anywhere else and a tracert shows the problem happening on their network, not mine.
@shanedk Sounds like the problem we had at the outsourcing company I used to work for. We had terrible response time for one of our web-based apps, and management insisted it was because we were overloading the local network with YouTube videos. Odd that it was still bad in the middle of the night, with only a handful of staff and no videos being watched, and it was ONLY stuff in the one data center that was slow...
@Kan2209 You know, it USED to be, before we got excessively safety conscious, that being sufficiently stupid would get you killed quickly. Now, we try to avoid having hard surfaces, sharp edges, and un-guarded drops. There were certain advantages to stupidity being an auto-capital offense.
I almost cry watching lil nephi make his moronic claims
49% due to laughter, and 51% due to sadness that a human being can inflict themself with ignorance to this point... Making a total and complete ass of themself on a worldwide forum.
I have had exchanges with lil nephi.
He uses out dated data, moronic claims by a few outcast individuals and out right lies.
Lil nephi believes in giants, geocentrism and noah's ark.
Watching this video again; I'm still amazed at how easily NF misinterprets the arrows representing the ocean current. Isn't this something most people understand to be a representation of the current, and not the real thing?
I hope someone's given NF a map showing how the "definitive" current is going right through the big island, while totally missing the smaller ones.
interesting video and very informative
TheKcsmithy 2 days ago
good work here
chrispikeyp 4 days ago
Doesn't acknowledging things like the rising of Surtsey kind of hurt the whole idea of creationism? New islands forming is a bit of a contradiction of the idea that there was a creation, that's over and finished, and everything was made just as it is, now.
GoblinXXX 1 month ago
SINCE WHEN IS CREATIONISM "SCIENCE"?
SSSTUPID CREATIONISTS and their Dishonesty, or, immorality?
BTW: What is an "Evolutionist"?
flightkiller09 2 months ago
@flightkiller09
1-since idiots began to exist apparently.
2-depends on the person. some just have dissonance, and thus don't qualify for either. others are one, the other, or both.
3-your guess is as good as mine.
Albukhshi 1 week ago
@Albukhshi My God Created A Little cat: Would you call this "statement" SCIENTIFIC?
If you Do, PLEASE, DON'T ANSWER me!
flightkiller09 1 week ago
@flightkiller09
no, I would not, I'm a trained geologist/scientist. why would you ask? I didn't say anything that actually supports creationism, if that's your issue. I was just giving my take on why creationists are the way they are, which to summarize: 1-creationism seems to thrive with idiots, 2-their motives vary, and 3, I have no idea what they mean by "Evilutionist", they tend to use it on people who accept things from the big bang to evolution.
and seriously, chill out.
Albukhshi 1 week ago
@Albukhshi Cool!, I misunderstood you somehow! Nice that we both think science seeks real answers, unlike many religion.
flightkiller09 1 week ago
You have a lot of speculations of your own.
You assume that things are going as they have always been before.
The reality is that things have not always been the same as we see them today.
Pacific ocean, as we see it today, was made in a very short time when the water settled after the global flood.
Current icemelt is now putting more pressure on the ocean floor plates and will cause great earthqakes associate with the Pacific ocean plates and possibly the Atlantic plates.
JungleJargon 4 months ago
@JungleJargon "Pacific ocean, as we see it today, was made in a very short time when the water settled after the global flood."
ROFL
BackInTheCage 4 months ago
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@JungleJargon "Pacific ocean, as we see it today, was made in a very short time when the water settled after the global flood."
ROFL
BackInTheCage 4 months ago
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@JungleJargon "Pacific ocean, as we see it today, was made in a very short time when the water settled after the global flood."
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BackInTheCage 4 months ago
I'm an evolutionist and I hate this video. Just because one creationist thinks something you don't agree with doesn't mean they're all stupid you pretentious twat.
Tomtaylorross 4 months ago
@Tomtaylorross "I'm an evolutionist"
No, you're not. The word evolutionist is ONLY used by creationists. Yet again, this dishonest tactic shows that creationists are liars with no morals.
shanedk 4 months ago 15
@shanedk You mad bro? So, only creationists call others evolutionists since I don't know that's what their called. Do you call yourself a Non-creationist or just a fucktard because that's what I'd call you. BTW Carl Sagan and Richard Dawkins Creationist while your at it since they call themselves evolutionists.
Tomtaylorross 4 months ago
@Tomtaylorross "Evolutionist" is a made-up term by creationists to make evolution sound like a religion. And Dawkins and Sagan call(ed) themselves "biologists."
shanedk 4 months ago 13
@shanedk actually Carl Sagan was a physicist
djpob 4 months ago 2
@djpob Ah too true, brain fart. Actually he was an astrophysicist.
shanedk 4 months ago 4
@shanedk an astrophysicist is still a physicist :P sorry I'm being a pedant I'll stop now :)
djpob 4 months ago
@Tomtaylorross Hi. It's "you're."
dpowens 1 month ago
@shanedk I thought that remark "I'm an evolutionist" was funny too. Evolution is widely accepted as fact, adding the "ist" is basically reducing it to a kooky idea held by a few fanatics, which is exactly what creationists are.
8698gil 1 month ago
@8698gil Evolution is not a fact because it is accepted. there is no proof proving definitively the concept of adaption. I'm not disagreeing with your beliefs, but its still the theory of adaption or whatever, not the law of evolution. Everyone widely believed the world was flat, and another culture widely believed the earth was the center of the universe, until proven otherwise. It is widely accepted by billions on the earth that Allah/God/Yahweh created the Earth.
halalmeatz 3 weeks ago
@8698gil I would describe my self as talib, seeker of knowledge. I am not ready to rule out evolution. I am more willing to reconcile my spiritual beliefs with verifiable facts. But your argument, I think was fallacy-ridden. Anyway, This videos author is obnoxious. Reminds me of....me! haha lol.
halalmeatz 3 weeks ago
@Tomtaylorross So, since I believe in the theory of gravity, am I a Newtonian? Fucking lying creationist dicktard. Go watch Fox "news"
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> Just because one creationist thinks something you don't agree with doesn't mean they're all stupid
Correct. When they believe in creationism it means that.
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NATURAL LIMITS TO EVOLUTION: Only evolution within "kinds" is genetically possible (i.e. varieties of dogs, cats, etc.), but not evolution across "kinds" (i.e. from worm to human). How were species living, reproducing if their reproductive system, vital structures, and organs hadn't evolved yet? Read my Pravda Internet article: WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS! I discuss: Punctuated Equilibrium, "Junk DNA," genetics, mutations, natural selection, fossils, genetic/biological similarities between species.
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Mogley52 5 months ago
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auritone 5 months ago
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WonderfulDenmark 5 months ago
Nephilim makes a lot of assAWMPtions himself..
TuahShinguru 5 months ago
Boom!! ... Next,please..! Big up
VekinHighwalker 6 months ago
very first line "everything they(evolutionists aka the people with an IQ above 10) believe in is based an assumption" lolololo
kinda like saying a god exists?
or theres a heaven afterlife?
Northover22x 6 months ago
All the Creationists and Tea Partiers like Nephilim need to be given a single state--Texas would be perfect, and allowed to secede, and then fenced in where they would be quarantined. Then they can be as extreme as they want, as nutty as they want--while the rest of us move forward. When that nut Governor Perry started talking secession the minute Obama was elected, we should have jumped at the chance.
DandAinTac 6 months ago
@DandAinTac
Nephy would hate it here in Texas now since the Texas Freedom Network forced the douches in the Texas School Board to give up their evil plot to indoctrinate kids. They got ripped to shreds in court, and were forced to allow Evolution in the textbooks.
NUTCASE71733 5 months ago
@NUTCASE71733 Maybe there's hope for Texas after all. I fear the integrity of the court system is gradually being eroded by the appointment of right wing nutjobs. Eventually the courts will be on board the looney wagon as well, and we will not be able to expect rational court decisions.
DandAinTac 5 months ago
subbed.
CircusOfBedlam 6 months ago
Sporty has to get attention some how. Being stupid gets him more attention than being educated. Remember it's his bible thumping friends who pays his bills. He has no life or J.O.B.
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gramosjr7 6 months ago
I love how you laid it all out easily enough a 2nd grader could understand, not that a 2nd grader would care about what either of your opinions, lol. The fact remains that a religious person or creationist person's brain simply CAN NOT view actual scientific evidence as a normal person, they instead always have that overshadowing theory no matter what a person can say, if it even slightly contradicts/refutes their beliefs THEY WILL NOT TAKE IT SERIOUSLY. Which is sad, really...
JokerzKard 7 months ago
As Neph would put it: Don't believe creations of evolutionist and atheist things on the Iinternetss. Specially NOT Google Earth and Wikipedia.
Great video! Its not hard to make Neph look like an non evolved ape (With head phones).
retroHC 7 months ago
I know this vid is 2 years old, but there's just something fun about watching nephiphliar having his arse handed to him so eloquently. And the best part about it is he still is too dumb to believe it's happening.
finchfrance 7 months ago
RE Surtsey it doesn't even matter whether it was a rapid event or not.
Geology encompasses all processes from those of millions of years to "instantaneous" catastrophies.
It is the poor creationists who aresaddled with having solely catastrophic events to explain their viewpoint.
Yet again poor old Neph doesn't have a clue as to what is the standpoint of the opposition.
pilgrimpater 7 months ago
I think NephilimFree makes a great point in regards to how evolution isnt correct. Not by anything that comes out of hes mouth, but with the fact that with hes existence it seems to indicated that evolution is going backwards. Sooner or later Creationists will get hairy hands and eventually turn into monkeys and by doing so disproving the way current evolution is explained.
Because, lets not forget how well suited the banana (Thx for this insight Kirk Cameron) is for us monkeys.
Lobos222 8 months ago 2
@Lobos222 Luckily for the human race, information is not a genetically inherited trait. There's still hope for humanity because videos like shanedk's can provide a "cure" of sorts for the type of ignorance generally found in Creationist circles.
FrostdPoptart 7 months ago
There is no limit to creationist stupidity- it is literally boundless. They have no idea what they're talking about, but that doesn't deter them from pontificating endlessly. And Nephy is one of the best examples of this. What he knows of science would fit in a thimble with lots of room left over.
mikefromwa 8 months ago
Anyone who uses the word "evolutionist" immediately labels themselves a twat.
jessemaurais 8 months ago 2
would know there was a God never mind the innumerable number of different beliefs.
johndebbra 8 months ago
hardcore projection by neph
Cromwell523 10 months ago
Nephy has removed his video now. I really want to know what goes on in his head, like does he know that he is laughably wrong about just about everything, yet just trudges forward out of stubbornness?
trueleroix 1 year ago
@trueleroix
You assume things go on in his head. This assumption remains as yet unproven.
rkyeun 8 months ago
"this floating seafloor theory"
That, btw, is called plate tectonics and continental drift.. You should look into them before you dismiss them..
JesterAzazel 1 year ago
IMO I guess the islands being in the ring of fire have sumpin to do with it and not this floating seafloor theory. Why else would one of the largest molten lava lakes be on the Big Island (Hawaii) if it had floated past the hot spots. I still think its the ring of fire and thats why you're gonna have active volcano's all around the ring. Just food thought since ppl need to go further under the crust and look at the Ring of Fire as a possible step in the creation of the islands. Peace
JimmyCarol100 1 year ago
@JimmyCarol100
And it burns, burns, burns.. The ring of fire..
JesterAzazel 1 year ago
@JimmyCarol100 The ring of fire is just that - a ring. Hawaii is in the middle of it, thousands of miles away from any of the plate collisions that cause the volcanoes. That is because Hawaii is on a hot spot. It still is partially on the hot spot, seeing as the volcano is still active, though it is beginning to breach at a new location and is working on a new island.
gimmethegepgun 1 year ago
@gimmethegepgun @JesterAzazel May I suggest a video here on YT, its more of a documentary and in 4, 10 min clips. it was uploaded by KurdstanPlanetarium and is called "The Ring of Fire P1" thru P4, please neither reply until you watch these at least. Thank you for your time. If your interested in plate tectonics and ring of fire you'll see the correlation between the the two.
JimmyCarol100 1 year ago
@JimmyCarol100 Watched it, was interesting. It didn't really make any link between the ring and Hawaii, though, only noting that Hawaii is right in the middle of it.
gimmethegepgun 1 year ago
@gimmethegepgun did you not catch the part where the ring of fire is where the tectonic plates meet. Another thing I did to get a better picture of things, was google search "ring of fire tectonic plates" together. Web search & Images, alot of info though. It just shows the ring of fire & tectonic plates R N correlation to each other & not thousands of miles apart. Main point is all the islands n the ring are still above active/ dormant volcano's & were not formed by sliding over hot spots.Peace
JimmyCarol100 1 year ago
@JimmyCarol100 I'm not talking about the plate boundaries that make the actual ring, I'm talking about the Hawaiian Islands, which are right in the middle of the plate. If you reread your above comment, it sounds like you're saying the Hawaiian Islands were made by the Ring of Fire, and my first comment was questioning the relationship between them. The video you sent was interesting, but showed no relation between the Ring itself and Hawaii, just the fact that Hawaii is in the middle of it.
gimmethegepgun 1 year ago
@gimmethegepgun I think I finally understand what ur sayn, since the islands are more or less centered on the Pacific plate, what is building the islands? If this is right, from what I've read about the formation is, that over time as the plate moves 5-10cm per year, over vast amounts of time when a thinner/weaker part of the plate passes over a "hot spot" of molten lava and if the pressure is strong enough it breaks thru & creates a new island. I think. Peace
JimmyCarol100 1 year ago
@gimmethegepgun By the way, just wanna let you know I've enjoyed our discussion, which for me is hard- trying to talk to someone by typeing since I just joined YT in July 10 and started tryn to communicate via typeing. Some people go over board with language and hostility when its just simple misunderstandings. I'm a dis-abled Vet and spent many years around all types of different people and realize we're not gonna agree all the time, but that does'nt mean we still can't get along. Peace2You
JimmyCarol100 1 year ago
WORLD DOMINATION! >:D BURN IT ALLLLLLLLLL no more mind rapeing reliougs books! BANED thats why ill enver be presedant in the united states! NEVER lol
i swear every single road in the united states there is a church EVER road
tjinga2u1 1 year ago
great vid...........destroying nonsense at an alarming rate........
keep up the good work
azmanabdula 1 year ago
Nephilimfree is a fucking lunatic. If you told him the sky was blue, he'd say it was green...
*bangs head against desk
TAz69x 1 year ago
Here's the part that gets me: he's talking about currents and eddies functioning as forces that wear the Hawaiian Islands down over time. Sure he's wrong about practically everything...but he's internalized the concept of Uniformitarianism.
This is why, ultimately, we're winning: so many ideas from science have entered the public consciousness that people internalize them.
CristinaFernandez 1 year ago
OMG it's eroded more 'cuz therz an arrow pointin' right at it DUR HURR!
Daruqe 1 year ago
I find you accent charming.
TehOutsider 1 year ago
NephilinFree is either one huge troll or a psycopath.
paolo27th 1 year ago 3
@paolo27th i'd say a psycopath
kokofan50 1 year ago 2
Shane... you're a genius, keep up the good work.
NovaSperadon 1 year ago 2
Nephy does'nt have time to look things up. He's too busy making things up.
panterguy 1 year ago 4
Creationist are a disgrace to humanity, Stupidity on this level should be illegal!! The human race will be far better off without these failed abortions...
maddoxhell 1 year ago 4
It's not "any stupider". It's "any more stupider" 8P
OptimisticCynic715 1 year ago
Looks by the ratings that Nephilim Free has 15 family members.
MrJohnnyrace 1 year ago
don't worry about NephilimFree, he's satire, I mean c'mon.... he HAS to be satire...
DieFatorLiveThin 1 year ago
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Cant you just live for yourself? why do you feel the need to bust on anyone for what they believe? i mean honestly think about it.. that person who he is (educating) isnt going to become anyone of value, let them just talk. and i can ASSURE YOU them talking to each other being nice to each other is doing BOTH of them alot more good then NOT talking. unlike you. sitting here calling them both fools while you are alone. and pissed at them.. for being stupid... see what i mean? it doesnt MATTER!
SatansMullet 1 year ago
@SatansMullet Because they're causing REAL HARM! It DOES matter when extra class time has to be spent in colleges (and a LOT of it does) in order to correct all this misinformation. I've talked to professors of biology and anthropology who say they have to sometimes spend the entire first semester just getting rid of the bogus ideas the creationists have put into the minds of the students. That's REAL HARM.
shanedk 1 year ago 122
@shanedk and thats every year...........
progress thats not sought : )
-Peely
azmanabdula 1 year ago
@shanedk I agree with you shane. I am a teacher and it takes longer to unteach wrong ideas than it takes to teach proper ideas in the first place. Inhibiting the educational development of people is real harm.
th30r3m 1 year ago 2
@shanedk OK.Here's what REALLY happened;The Demigod Maui,sick of being ridiculed by his brothers as a poor fisherman ,got a magic hook from his father.In deep sea,he cast the hook and caught something ENOURMOUS.His brothers paddled mightily for 2 days and Maui strained at the line as sea mounts slowly rose from the sea.the paddlers turned to look in wonder, and the line slacked leaving only 7 peaks exposed..the Hawaiian Island chain...there guys..THATS SCIENCE!!(they never got the hook back)
jameschairmanwong631 11 months ago
@SatansMullet but seriously... the guy thinks that theres dozens of tiny streams of current flowing through an otherwise completely still ocean, and always in exactly the same place. and everything in between is completely still. seriously! that was some fucked up shit, It is literally one of the stupidest things I have ever heard, anyone who believes anything that stupid and just will not listen to reason has to have it ridiculed out of them, its not pretty but sometimes its the only way
yngvaibucketrucci 1 year ago
@SatansMullet Creationist force their beliefs on other people as well. So we might as well fight back, and let intelligence prevail.
Yanman88 1 year ago
Wow, nephy does an amazing job of projecting his many intellectual faults onto his opposition. Nephy has so many baseless assumptions in every thing he says. He hasn't a clue what he is talking about yet seems to believe he speaks with authority. That is kinda of crazy.
macnutz 1 year ago
I learn a little something new every time I watch one of your videos. Thanks.
MrWagman11 1 year ago
"evolutionist geology" EVOLUTIONIST GEOLOGY? tard.
BillKiernan 1 year ago
Hey not that this has anything to do with your video, but ive stumbled into a claim made by certain creationists that Peruvian Ica stones, showing what they claim appears to be dinosaur sculptures, using this information as justification 'to show' that apparently dinosaurs and humans co-existed, was wondering if i could get some kind of rebuttle to that claim, as i havent been able to fin any as yet. Thanks
utumano 1 year ago
@utumano They've long been known to be fakes.
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@shanedk no they have been proven to be authentic. stop lying
animefan2k9 1 year ago
@utumano Hey utumano - in a nutshell, the Andesite Dinosaur stones were fabricated by a local farmer who wanted to sell "authentic" Inca artifacts to tourists. He began claiming that he had found thousands of them in a cave while exploring the jungle. Soon after he began making these claims, Peruvian authorities raided his property because it is illegal to sell archeological artifacts. He then admitted he had made the stones himself, and testing confirmed modern paints and tools were used.
cerebulon 1 year ago
@utumano Compare those known to be genuine (and only those known to be genuine) to indigenous animals of the area and you'll see some lovely correlations, chameleons as an example.
MrMZaccone 11 months ago
nicely done...
odinsraven1000 1 year ago
I think the hard part about arguing with someone like Neph' is that if you try to do it responsibly, and supply FACTS to back-up your assertions, you're already at a disadvantage - due to the fact that he suffers no such constraints, and is able (or should I say willing) to twist facts to support his conjectures, and unfortunately, he is just educated enough to do it in a way that sounds plausible to the uninformed.
steveb0503 1 year ago
@steveb0503 that fucker just makes up shit as he goes along. Ask him a set of questions (if you're not blocked) and he'll give you a crappy attempt at answering the most convenient ones and ignore the ones he can't account for. The man has absolutely NO academic integrity or honesty.
odinsraven1000 1 year ago
@odinsraven1000 No shit!!!
I'm just doing an analysis in an attempt to help anyone who might put it (and other ideas) to use to help limit the effects of this and other "mind viruses".
I don't have the time and energy to "do battle" with such willfully ignorant twerps as Neph' (I would prefer to talk to people who seem to exhibit SOME consideration for viewpoints other than their own pre-existing ones).
steveb0503 1 year ago
You know what amazes me the most? These people are enjoying the fruits of science, and yet, they are still claiming earth is 6k years old. It really does not compute. That would be like god is standing right in front of me, creating hotties out of my ribs, and I still remain as an atheist.
kk207 1 year ago
Good Vid, I like the homework.
Keep up the good work...spread sanity.
TooferMan 1 year ago
Poor old Neph. Everything in black and white. Of couse geological process take millions of years but they can also happen nigh on instantly. There is no contradiction here because that is the way it is. I cannot remember which but there is one island in the Hawaian chain that shows clear evidence of an almost instant subsidence into the ocean. I do wish he would do some research but then again how would be able to make any videos?
pilgrimpater 1 year ago
As a geologist currently studying at University of Hawaii at Hilo; bravo to you sir. Keep putting scientific ideals out there and supporting the Scientific Method.
Just as a heads up, Kaua`i is said (Ka-vie-ee) in case any local 808 people stumble upon this and gripe at you.
ocjuiceman24 1 year ago 15
@ocjuiceman24 Thanks. I deciphered the pronunciation from the Wikipedia entry; I guess they go with common pronunciations and not necessarily the original language.
shanedk 1 year ago
@shanedk Its no worries. Also could you please rebut his Geology for Evolutionist series? Its an afront to my field. And he uses the Grand Canyon sequence of rocks to prove a giant flood. Sadly for him, the sediments alone prove there was no great flood.
I'd be happy to help offer talking points.
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@shanedk shut the fuck up you stupid haole. you know nothing of hawaiian language.
WADAMAN808 1 year ago
@WADAMAN808 Where does this come from? I never said I knew the Hawaiian language. As I said, I deciphered the Wikipedia pronunciation as best as I could, which apparently was not based on the actual Hawaiian language.
Geez...all this over mispronouncing one word???
shanedk 1 year ago
@shanedk Since it's the subject, you may also look up the pronunciation of "archipelago" (for instance, in answers dot com). Not that it's very important, of course.
DoctorPlausible 1 year ago
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rkikuo 1 year ago
@WADAMAN808
Don't be a troll.
tom133991 1 year ago
@WADAMAN808 What's your problem you abusive asshole?
arseymcpherson 1 year ago
@WADAMAN808
Good thing he's speaking english then.
JamesThWilliams 1 year ago
@shanedk If it wasn't for my being an acoustical oceanographer in the Navy, NephilimFree might have actually convinced me there. LMAO
atchisrj1 9 months ago
@atchisrj1 i usually ask one question and state one fact that stops all bible thumpers in ther tracks including jews,muslims, yes even satansist which buy the way i think is the main problem with debunker's not that they are wrong that they single out mainly christians anyway just ask them about Amenhotep IV he was the first even before the jews that believed in one God and as far as religion as a whole ask them why is it learned it would be a natural part of everyones lives since birth we all
johndebbra 8 months ago
@shanedk What he presented IS the common pronunciation. I was kinda bugged when I heard that too. I know its just nit picking but Ha-vie-ee, Ka-vie-ee? Not a very difficult leap to make. If Wikipedia told you something different it needs to be corrected because it is plain wrong- not common- not "used elsewhere", simply wrong.
mucephi1 7 months ago
As geologist who is currently attending University of Hawaii at Hilo. Bravo sir, and keep fighting the good fight. When you need more earth/structural proof, come see me!
ocjuiceman24 1 year ago
As science proves more and more of religious clap trap to be inane childish excuses they alter their view. Like evolution, god started it off, then it evolved, to Jehovah's Witnesses accepting that dinosaurs existed. There is hope, I hope.
Another thousand years or so....? I can't believe you bother with this guy, having to state basic geology. There are higher intelligent creationist to deal with, if you must.
NOmeansnoFAN 1 year ago
sounds like you guys are fighting iver whos going to right the next textbook...
rumplestilskin07 1 year ago
More importantly, evolution has NOTHING to do with the age og hawaiian islands. evolution. the age of the islands is done through radioactive decay of unstable isotopes in the lava (igneous rock). Real science with empiracle evidence supports an old earth while the bible only supports the ability of man to be a dumbass.
aaqaaqaaqaaqaaqaaqaa 1 year ago
But isn't there a mountain which is higher than Manau Kei and Mt Everest if you measure from the center of the earth instead of looking at the base of the mountain or sea level.
hobbitsarecool 1 year ago
@hobbitsarecool Yes, the top of Mount Chimborazo in Ecuador is the furthest point on land from Earth's center of mass. Everest is something like fifth highest when you count them like that. The reason why is that Earth's rotation results in sea level being higher at the equator.
shanedk 1 year ago
@shanedk
Thanks. I remember reading that a long time ago. Another question. How does the hot spot from Hawaii stay in the same place? I am a complete idiot when it comes to geology which is why I study chemical engineering.
hobbitsarecool 1 year ago
@hobbitsarecool It doesn't. The same hot spot made ALL the Hawaiian islands. It just moves so slowly we'll never notice the difference in our lifetimes.
shanedk 1 year ago
@shanedk
I thought it was the moving of the plates which caused the Hawaiian chain of islands?
hobbitsarecool 1 year ago
@hobbitsarecool Yes, the plate moves over the hotspot, taking the islands with it.
shanedk 1 year ago
@shanedk
So both are moving? I think I am starting to understand it now.
hobbitsarecool 1 year ago
@hobbitsarecool EVERYTHING'S moving. It's the movement of the molten core that generates Earth's magnetic field.
shanedk 1 year ago
@shanedk
Now I understand it. Thanks for the info.
hobbitsarecool 1 year ago
Projection Alert FTW
HyldenHero 1 year ago 3
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He makes a lot of good points, I just don't see how everything came from nothing...
lilparnell 2 years ago
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@lilparnell
No matter which scenario you start with - God or the Big Bang - there always was something to start things out with. With God, he always was - no beginning and no end. With the Big Bang, the matter always existed, just not in the form we know as the universe today. I think if we are courageous, and accept the findings of science instead of trying to silence them out of fear, we will learn more about the wonders of God than we ever dreamed.
cerebulon 2 years ago
"I just don't see how everything came from nothing... " - Deal with it. You not seeing is your problem and your problem alone.
TheSpankymonkey 2 years ago 17
good point. but that doesn't mean it came from god
FakeCup 2 years ago
Noone claims that Lilparnell, except creatonists who set up this particular strawman to shoot down.
What scientists are saying is the big bang happened, they don't know how it happened but it did.
Saying God did it, doesn't help us figure out how it happened.
There is a possibility that time isn't linear and matter has always existed.
God did it is a hypothesis that would actually require evidence too.
What we know isn't as important as how we know it.
Korkzor 2 years ago 2
Fantastic video!
I tried to educate Neffee, explaining why his analogy of the solar system to the vortex in one's sink, he tried to attack me... when I pointed out that I'm an engineer, and why is analogy is so bad, he just shut up. He doesn't have the intellect to understand even basic science and engineer.
ikvsabre 2 years ago
Wow. 90% of the world population is dumb. How sad.
mahdesimon 2 years ago
NephilimFree's stupidity is on par with other youtube YECs, notably Franksreturn and Mack Quigley but he goes above and beyond what god requires a YEC to be in terms of creepiness.
jimbrown257 2 years ago
what is YEC?
Key2daUnderground 2 years ago
Young-Earth Creationist; someone who believes the Earth is only 6,000 years old.
shanedk 2 years ago
oh, i see. Thanks. and YEC is now a bad word to me lol
Key2daUnderground 2 years ago
Yeah, I often here it pronounced "Yick" like "hick".
jimbrown257 2 years ago
It's good that you have the drive to ward these mongrels off. I don't, but I respect that. That's why it's good to have all kinds of people. Even religius. What would you do all day if all idiots would vanish from the face of the earth?
Kan2209 2 years ago
@ Kan2209- Enjoy the happiest day of our lives? If there were no idiots, then people's time could be spent on the other important things.
genobahamut1337 2 years ago
You shouldn't spend your time with idiots.
Kan2209 2 years ago
The problem with that, Kan2209, is that there are too many idiots in the world. If people don't spend their time correcting them, then they will continue to cause trouble for the rest of us. We have to spend our time on them to insure that they become at least a little more educated or at least to ensure that other people know they are idiots and not to listen to them. It'd be a different story if most people were intelligent.
genobahamut1337 2 years ago
I find it to be a huge waset of time really. There's no changing the idiots mind. It's good to have people loike you, but I'm not really bothered with the ways of the idiot myself, and I think I've chosen a good option there. If an idiot wants' to believe, it doesn't make a difference making it believe any different, it's still just belief to it. It wont understadn the logic behind what everway someone convinces it to act. An endless struggle for people who really aren't worth a turd.
Kan2209 2 years ago
I'll rahter spend time on myself, cos none of us are perfect, than throw stones all around at all idiots who come my way.
Kan2209 2 years ago
Well, you don't have to be one of the people telling the idiots that they are wrong. If everyone did that, we wouldn't be so advanced. However, some people do have to do that in order to convert some away from stupidity and keep others from believing the stupidity so that things get done even faster tomorrow. This is how people learn better, by being educated. Sure, it is done rather harshly for the true idiots, but it's still necessary for some people to do.
genobahamut1337 2 years ago
"I find it to be a huge waset of time really. There's no changing the idiots mind." - True, however it is not completely pointless. It only tends to be completely retarded people that really will put themselves out there and talk so much shit. Having a clear opposition does put an awful lot of people off stepping up to the stage. Although it might not be so dramatic, the last time religious numpties had a completely free pass to indulge in nonsense we had the dark ages.
TheSpankymonkey 2 years ago 3
@genobahamut1337 Actually, I've spent most of the last 10 years of my life making a living mostly off of people being stupid. I've been working tech support, which isn't pleasant, but pays the bills, you know?
evensgrey 1 year ago
@evensgrey Well, good for you.
genobahamut1337 1 year ago
@genobahamut1337 My point is, I wouldn't have had those jobs if people weren't stupid. Rather a lot of people make their living off of the intentional stupidity of others. I don't see anything wrong with taking advantage of opportunities people make by being intentionally stupid. It's not like I'm coercively taxing them.
evensgrey 1 year ago
@evensgrey I'm not saying anything against what you're doing. Your providing assistance to people who aren't intelligent enough to figure something out. Other people make a living educating people. Both are methods of helping them. I have no problem with that. They could even learn from you helping them through things. The only thing I have a problem with is the idea that we should leave stupid people alone. If we did that, there would be no smart people.
genobahamut1337 1 year ago
@genobahamut1337 ignorance can be cured, stupidity can not. One can measure a baby's intelligence.
NOmeansnoFAN 1 year ago
@NOmeansnoFAN That's a good point, I suppose, but there would still be some ignorant people among the stupid and some ignorant people viewing the arguments. Those people can learn and would be benefited from the reasoning that others go through arguing against stupid people. The stupid would be less likely to make more stupid people out of the ignorant.
genobahamut1337 1 year ago
@genobahamut1337 i just figure this guy wears shoes with velcro™ straps so whats the point.
NOmeansnoFAN 1 year ago
@evensgrey I must be on a different plane of existence. From my POV, tech support jobs must be given to the brain damaged and the severely mentally retarted as part of a government program to give these imbeciles jobs. 'Cause man, they are IDIOTS!
shanedk 1 year ago
@shanedk There is suspected to be a bi-direction clue filter in the phone systems.
There's also the fact that tech support's job is generally NOT to help you, but to apply tech support policy to you, which isn't generally very helpful.
evensgrey 1 year ago
@evensgrey Well, they're leaking bogons.
Take what I'm going through now with 8x8: they STILL insist the problem is with my ISP because of high ping latency to their server, when I DON'T have high ping latency anywhere else and a tracert shows the problem happening on their network, not mine.
shanedk 1 year ago
@shanedk Sounds like the problem we had at the outsourcing company I used to work for. We had terrible response time for one of our web-based apps, and management insisted it was because we were overloading the local network with YouTube videos. Odd that it was still bad in the middle of the night, with only a handful of staff and no videos being watched, and it was ONLY stuff in the one data center that was slow...
evensgrey 1 year ago
@Kan2209 You know, it USED to be, before we got excessively safety conscious, that being sufficiently stupid would get you killed quickly. Now, we try to avoid having hard surfaces, sharp edges, and un-guarded drops. There were certain advantages to stupidity being an auto-capital offense.
evensgrey 1 year ago
I almost cry watching lil nephi make his moronic claims
49% due to laughter, and 51% due to sadness that a human being can inflict themself with ignorance to this point... Making a total and complete ass of themself on a worldwide forum.
I have had exchanges with lil nephi.
He uses out dated data, moronic claims by a few outcast individuals and out right lies.
Lil nephi believes in giants, geocentrism and noah's ark.
He is a train wreck... hard to watch...
but a must to watch.
messiahjonz 2 years ago
Watching this video again; I'm still amazed at how easily NF misinterprets the arrows representing the ocean current. Isn't this something most people understand to be a representation of the current, and not the real thing?
I hope someone's given NF a map showing how the "definitive" current is going right through the big island, while totally missing the smaller ones.
Altimadark 2 years ago
I dont know if you know or not, but Nephilimfree is also a geocentrist. LOL isnt that funny?
crackerkiller89 2 years ago 21
@crackerkiller89 that lot are hilarious, to argue such basic measurable points. Why bother?
NOmeansnoFAN 1 year ago