@Jac2Mac Which was a real pity as other VHS companies like Paramount and Magnetic Video used black and white versions of their video logos on black and white movies.
I have Enter The Dragon On WCI Home Video, But It Dosen't Show The WCI Home Video Logo On It. It Just Has The FBI Warning At 00:02-00:07 And The Warner Bros. Pictures Logo From 1972 And The Start Of The Film.
This version ran from 1978 to 1980. The home video division changed its name to "WARNER HOME VIDEO" in late 1980. The logo was otherwise unchanged until 1986.
@Watcher3223 That's rare all over. By the way, I own 2 WHV "For-Rental-Only" tapes from 1981, "Dirty Harry" and "Superman II" (which uses the 1983 retail casing. I have that opening uploaded on my channel, if you want to check it out).
I have the original 1978 version on WCI Home Video, i have never even put in a vcr so i can not tell what the video looks like. The tape number is WB-1013, there is a notation on the cover of the box that holds it that says "This WCI Home Video program is presented in its original theatrical version. TM & 1978 DC Comics Inc. Is this version valuable?
Probably not as there's nothing offered from the WCI version that has real value compared to another release of the movie on a newer, better quality medium (the Blu-Ray Disc release of "Superman: The Movie" will be more valuable).
There might be collector value if someone was intent on collecting every single home video release of the movie, but chances are that still may not translate into substantial monetary value.
One thing to compare is the run time. The WCI Home Video release may only be 127 minutes while the theatrical film is 143.
Time compression and the omission of the end credits sequence were employed for the WCI Home Video release owing to limits of video tape back then (the tape would have to be thinner to accommodate at least 20 extra minutes to cover the full movie and black screen buffers at the beginning and end of the tape at SP speed and keep it all on one cassette).
@tinkerthecat : The WCI version of "Superman" is compressed from the proper theatrical version runtime of 143 min. to 127 minutes. Scenes without dialogue were compressed, and the film's closing credits were cut. The black Warner distribution logo appears at the beginning, with no logo (it would not reappear on a single Superman video release until 2001's DVD/VHS reissue), and there is no WCI logo on the film. (WCI wouldn't have a logo until mid-1980, and early releases had no logo.)
Hey, I think an old Betamax dupe of "Superman" that I have is a WCI copy.
There are no end credits on it; right when Superman flies out of the camera's view, it cuts straight to the MPAA certification and the fiction disclaimer, then it cut to the film poster credits on a blue screen, then it cut to a title alluding to Superman 2, then it cut to a copyright warning on a blue screen.
However, this WCI logo was sourced from a 1979-1981 vintage copy of "Every which way but Loose."
"sadly WB would not release the film at its proper length until 1983."
Unless you buy this movie on LaserDisc or CED; the 1981-1982 videodisc release on both formats spanned two discs, keeping the original theatrical run time intact.
However, both films are panned and scanned, typical of home video releases of the era.
Excellent find! Never saw the WCI logo until now. I've seen it since I was a kid. It was later renamed as Warner Home Video in 1981 which uses the same animation from WCI. As for the logo itself, it is still Warner Music Group which uses the same logo. WMG is the biggest copyright hater in the history of YouTube for removing music videos and muting their audio. WMG can kiss my butt!
Long before WMG, the \\' logo was designed by Saul Bass.
He was commissioned to design a corporate logo when Kinney National Company (parent owners of Warner Bros. starting in 1969) reorganized itself strictly into a media company in the early 1970s: Warner Communications.
The logo fell into disuse, more or less, when Time and Warner merged.
WMG was formed when TimeWarner spun off its recording business. WMG is licensed to use the \\' logo, but TimeWarner retains ownership of the logo.
Was there ever a black and white version of either the WCI Home Video logo from 1978 and the 1980 Warner Home Video logo or not?
Jac2Mac 7 months ago
@Jac2Mac
I don't believe there was.
Watcher3223 7 months ago
@Jac2Mac Which was a real pity as other VHS companies like Paramount and Magnetic Video used black and white versions of their video logos on black and white movies.
Jac2Mac 7 months ago
I have Enter The Dragon On WCI Home Video, But It Dosen't Show The WCI Home Video Logo On It. It Just Has The FBI Warning At 00:02-00:07 And The Warner Bros. Pictures Logo From 1972 And The Start Of The Film.
videolover1999 1 year ago
@videolover1999
Unfortunately, not all WCI Home Video releases had this logo.
Watcher3223 1 year ago
This version ran from 1978 to 1980. The home video division changed its name to "WARNER HOME VIDEO" in late 1980. The logo was otherwise unchanged until 1986.
ClassicTVMan1981X 1 year ago
@Watcher3223 That's rare all over. By the way, I own 2 WHV "For-Rental-Only" tapes from 1981, "Dirty Harry" and "Superman II" (which uses the 1983 retail casing. I have that opening uploaded on my channel, if you want to check it out).
MrServoRetro 1 year ago
I have the original 1978 version on WCI Home Video, i have never even put in a vcr so i can not tell what the video looks like. The tape number is WB-1013, there is a notation on the cover of the box that holds it that says "This WCI Home Video program is presented in its original theatrical version. TM & 1978 DC Comics Inc. Is this version valuable?
2YourSuccessOnline 1 year ago
@2YourSuccessOnline
"Is this version valuable?"
Probably not as there's nothing offered from the WCI version that has real value compared to another release of the movie on a newer, better quality medium (the Blu-Ray Disc release of "Superman: The Movie" will be more valuable).
There might be collector value if someone was intent on collecting every single home video release of the movie, but chances are that still may not translate into substantial monetary value.
Watcher3223 1 year ago
@2YourSuccessOnline
One thing to compare is the run time. The WCI Home Video release may only be 127 minutes while the theatrical film is 143.
Time compression and the omission of the end credits sequence were employed for the WCI Home Video release owing to limits of video tape back then (the tape would have to be thinner to accommodate at least 20 extra minutes to cover the full movie and black screen buffers at the beginning and end of the tape at SP speed and keep it all on one cassette).
Watcher3223 1 year ago
anybody remember the original superman movie on wci home video, never seen that version myself, but people say the time compression really hurts it.
tinkerthecat 1 year ago
@tinkerthecat
The oldest copy of that movie I have is my copy on CED, which is an analog video disc format from RCA that employed a titanium tipped diamond stylus.
The discs (it was a two disc set) could not be older than 1981 and was likely from 1982 as CED was released in 1981 in the United States.
The discs have the WCI style logo on the beginning of the first side, but it is "Warner Home Video" instead of "WCI Home Video."
Watcher3223 1 year ago
@tinkerthecat : The WCI version of "Superman" is compressed from the proper theatrical version runtime of 143 min. to 127 minutes. Scenes without dialogue were compressed, and the film's closing credits were cut. The black Warner distribution logo appears at the beginning, with no logo (it would not reappear on a single Superman video release until 2001's DVD/VHS reissue), and there is no WCI logo on the film. (WCI wouldn't have a logo until mid-1980, and early releases had no logo.)
nx01alpha 1 year ago
@nx01alpha
Hey, I think an old Betamax dupe of "Superman" that I have is a WCI copy.
There are no end credits on it; right when Superman flies out of the camera's view, it cuts straight to the MPAA certification and the fiction disclaimer, then it cut to the film poster credits on a blue screen, then it cut to a title alluding to Superman 2, then it cut to a copyright warning on a blue screen.
However, this WCI logo was sourced from a 1979-1981 vintage copy of "Every which way but Loose."
Watcher3223 1 year ago
@Watcher3223 Yes, you do have a WCI copy. ....sadly WB would not release the film at its proper length until 1983.
nx01alpha 1 year ago
@nx01alpha
"sadly WB would not release the film at its proper length until 1983."
Unless you buy this movie on LaserDisc or CED; the 1981-1982 videodisc release on both formats spanned two discs, keeping the original theatrical run time intact.
However, both films are panned and scanned, typical of home video releases of the era.
Watcher3223 1 year ago
@Watcher3223 Do you have this Betamax copy of it? If you do, could you at least upload the closing of it.
avickers1992 10 months ago
i live in the uk i saw a copy of superman early release on vhs it said warner home video, i dont know if any vhs in the uk used the wci name not sure
tinkerthecat 1 year ago
I don't know how I can upload it on here.
jakestooge34 2 years ago
Excellent find! Never saw the WCI logo until now. I've seen it since I was a kid. It was later renamed as Warner Home Video in 1981 which uses the same animation from WCI. As for the logo itself, it is still Warner Music Group which uses the same logo. WMG is the biggest copyright hater in the history of YouTube for removing music videos and muting their audio. WMG can kiss my butt!
HomeoftheGoodGuys 2 years ago
Long before WMG, the \\' logo was designed by Saul Bass.
He was commissioned to design a corporate logo when Kinney National Company (parent owners of Warner Bros. starting in 1969) reorganized itself strictly into a media company in the early 1970s: Warner Communications.
The logo fell into disuse, more or less, when Time and Warner merged.
WMG was formed when TimeWarner spun off its recording business. WMG is licensed to use the \\' logo, but TimeWarner retains ownership of the logo.
Watcher3223 2 years ago
Thanks for the info.
fiveawesomemovieguys 2 years ago
I have a 1980 VHS of "The Great Texas Dynamite Chase" with the WCI logo. But the tape uses the 1980-85 FBI warning.
jakestooge34 2 years ago
I'd like to see that.
Watcher3223 2 years ago
My Magnum Force tape doesn't have as good of quality as this. Nice find! It's always good to know of another tape that contains this logo on it.
nesfan1111 2 years ago
wow i didnt know that this logo could look so good very good video considering the age of the source material
tinkerthecat 2 years ago
@tinkerthecat
Yeah, I was lucky to have found a cassette that was still in good condition.
It also helps that the playback equipment was in good order, too.
Watcher3223 2 years ago
Was there ever a black and white version of the 1981-85 Warner Home Video logo or not?
Jac2Mac 2 years ago
@Jac2Mac
Don't know. It wouldn't surprise me either way, though.
Watcher3223 2 years ago
Probably not.
KentuckyFriedGunman 2 years ago
Nice Video!
mig189189189 2 years ago
WOW! FIRST TIME I'VE SEEN IT
WAYNE1980AA 2 years ago