Nirvana was revered mostly because of the lyrics, which are still outstanding. Musically they weren't pioneers, although I do consider In Utero to be a masterpiece. But anyone claiming Nirvana haven't influenced anyone, is plain ignorant. Nirvana was the first band of their kind to really hit the big time and therefore reached an audience who had never heard of Tool of any of the other bands that were ruling the alternative scene at the time.
The guitar-riff "Come As You Are" resembles this one, but the tempo, the mood and the lyrics are very different. The most important thing is that this a really good song!
there are many riffs bands use. This is just one of the stronger ones thus more obvious.Look at what wonderful contrasts resulted. Many blues songs use this too!
A friend of mine told me to check this song out because Nirvana "riped it of". I must say the riff is very similar, but who cares anyway, they're stil two very different songs, and both rock!
@edissortofdead but the bassline is the same only slower on nirvana's "come as you are" song.
I don't think it was intentionnal plagierism, when u play guitar or bass its very easy to mistake a new riff with something u heard before and unconsciously use in a new composition
Well...the original grunge/industrial sound is actually coming from Joy Division, but Killing Joke were definitely around that time and they even supported Joy Division back in late 70's.
Music isn't invented by musicians? Ummm, yeah it is. Music isn't spiritual or mysterious or any of that bullshit. It's just like martial arts, surfing and so many other things in that, people who are crap at it feel the need to invent this whole, insubstantial, "spiritual" side to it that they CAN be good at in their own minds, and that no-one can disprove.
Come on...music isn't invented by musicians....it grows...chords are chords...in tune...out of tune...the blues....the devil's chords...any song can be tracked to the blues and any song can be further tracked to classical sonnets and all that....man, the opening piano of, flippin cold as ice is almost exactly like the song from the soap the young and the restless...play guitar or piano by ear....and see how many songs you find via one chord...one key...
holy shit what the fuck are you smoking?!?!?! music is invented by musicians you retard fuck! it grows? WHAT THE FUCK! tracked to the blues? the guys who play by ear are the ones who most of the time don't have any formal studies on music, like yourself. Take your marijuana shit somewhere else hippie!
What the fuck? This is a rip off of the damned's life goes on. So did killing Joke rip them off then Nirvana ripped KJ off? This shit sounds just like life goes on.
Damn, I just heard this the first time and it blew me away. What else do I have missed over the years??? By the way: The Drummer looks like Johnny Flodder.
oh go i just fell to cyber bullying im going to go tell my mommie on you fucking dumbfuck why dont you all do us a favor and go meet my "boyfirend" and brush your teeth with a 9 mm thanks
Jesus fucking Christ are you wrong. Cobain didn't get any national attention until 1992. Tool formed in 1990, and STP was kicking around in various forms as early as 1986. Kurt Cobain was a mediocre guitarist at best, and Nirvana didn't influence anyone but the god-awful post-grungers of the early 2000s. Does it hurt being so "ignorent", or do you drink away the pain?
@wmcwhinney You mean the quotation marks around the misspelled word weren't a big enough clue that I was mocking the user who originally made the error? Wow. But hey, while we're playing English teacher, I just thought I'd let you know that there are only three dots in an ellipsis, not five.
its the same notes as come as you are, just the intervals are different. cobain admitted he ripped it off from this song, so no point to argue. he was a shit guitarist, thats why. but nirvana music was still good. much better than the crap thats popular these days in the mainstream.
you do realize Eighties is a rip off of Life Goes On by The Damned right? which that song is also a rip off of Baby Come Back by The Equals so before you criticize Nirvana for plagarism you should know that this song is a rip off of another song before it but hey they're all great songs & bands
Good point about the Eighties riff aping Life Goes On, but the note pattern is dissimilar enough to not merit a real 'ripoff' title. I don't agree that Life Goes On is a ripoff of Baby Come Back. You're hearing a similar pattern, but the key for Baby Come Back is major while the key for Eighties, Life Goes On, and Come As You Are is minor. Popular music is more about redefining and less about originality. Case in point? Blues artists rip each other off every second, so...whatever.
yeah thats true, sure technically everyone who plays a certain genre is ripping off the original lol, i really don't know what's the big deal about similarities, to tell you the truth they're all great songs way better than what we hear nowadays & you know whats the sad thing about this whole rip off ideal? more people are only gonna know Killing Joke for suing Nirvana rather than knowing how great their music was & the same is happening to Joe Satriani with this whole Coldplay Viva la Vida crap
You're right about that. People are more interested in who's suing who, and who's fighting who than the music or art that they're putting out. Killing Joke Rules!
Stop talking about fucking nirvana. Considering how easy it is to plagiarise in rock music, a genre that essentially recycles the same notes and scales in almost every song, come as you are is nothing like eighties.
Anyway, I especially love the vocals of this song, his delivery is pretty spectacular and the lyrics are very relatvent to the time it was written.
This song is very apt for Vancouver in 2010. A song about greed, selfishness, destruction and a hatred of your own community. The Olympics logo at the beginning of the video, reminds me all too well of the chaos and bullshit Vancouver will have to put up with, just so these corporate wanks and suck ups can stroke their egos for less than 3 weeks, while completely shitting on the local people. Eat this, you selfish, greedy, destructive, community hating, corporate bastards!
I'm pretty sure Killing Joke was there before Moore wrote the Killing Joke.
Incidentally, I've always thought Killing Joke would make a great soundtrack for Watchmen. It sure would be a hell of a lot better than fucking MCR covering Bob Dylan.
He didn't rip it off completely, it just sounds like it. And it's totally unfair when you say justice, because we all know this had nothing to do with Cobain's death.
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stfu u noob....ive never heard of this band have u ever listened come as u are? dont think u did...this has nothing to do wiith it or with cobain's death...respect the legends mofo
and are u some kind of a weirdo dude? u dont even know to whom i replied.. since u dont shut up..and the dude i replied didnt say sth about irony. next time use ur head
this sounds like come as you are by nirvana but others say this song sounds like dirty magic by the offspring but i dont think so listen to that and see if you think it sounds similar
Nirvana was revered mostly because of the lyrics, which are still outstanding. Musically they weren't pioneers, although I do consider In Utero to be a masterpiece. But anyone claiming Nirvana haven't influenced anyone, is plain ignorant. Nirvana was the first band of their kind to really hit the big time and therefore reached an audience who had never heard of Tool of any of the other bands that were ruling the alternative scene at the time.
bakooi 1 week ago
NIRVANA RIP THE SHIT OUTTA THESE THATCHER REJECTS!
joshie3212 3 weeks ago
The guitar-riff "Come As You Are" resembles this one, but the tempo, the mood and the lyrics are very different. The most important thing is that this a really good song!
bakooi 1 month ago
Guy below...Nirvana...better?! Go fuck yourself!
discoverydavid 2 months ago
Whereas "Come As You Are" is a vulgar copy of this, it is still a far superior piece-Albeit, that wouldn't be HARD!
aoncehornygod 4 months ago
Ladies and gentlemen: Conan O'Brien on lead guitar.
Man, these guys rock!
aiodiacho 5 months ago
Nirvana has influenced me...
TheRiffCalendar 7 months ago
i see this video kinda serves as an official "nirvana haters" video/thread. I like that
Doika86 10 months ago
killing fans are way cooler in this vid than nirvana fans in come as you are vid
spheresaxis 1 year ago
Also, Paul Raven. Legend!
nickashine1 1 year ago
Fucking badass riff. No wonder Nirvana stole it.
nickashine1 1 year ago
0:12 LOL
balerinauzicka 1 year ago
brezhnev.....wata guy
dkr56 1 year ago
I remember when this song broke out...brings back great memories of NYC and friends no longer living today
Thanx
NEGRAMAY2006 1 year ago
hes got big hands
tigerhorsefield 1 year ago
Yeah I remember the scratch marks in the original video diver143 mentioned. Don't think it was a whipping though!
01laleo 1 year ago
"Embedding disabled by request" sucks
resumil 1 year ago
80's
SPXclothing 1 year ago
They censored this video!! In the very original Geordie did a turn with his back to the camera and there were blood stripes on it after a whipping.
diver143 1 year ago
What a timely video/song that was.
wadems 1 year ago
geordie walker
can take a shit
on conan o'brien. seriously...
BagpipeHustler 1 year ago
Great band, however in this video the guitar player looks like either Morten from A-ha or Devon from Knight Rider :-)
EatTheTele 1 year ago
there are many riffs bands use. This is just one of the stronger ones thus more obvious.Look at what wonderful contrasts resulted. Many blues songs use this too!
lovesGenet 1 year ago
Nirvana copies this song rs rs
tcelestino 1 year ago 2
wow, just remembered how good this song is! Also, can't believe I forgot how hot the guitaris was!!:P
Dorogod 2 years ago
Check out,,,LIFELOVER-(MySpys)
m00se321 1 year ago
Paul Raven
RIP
coalhalo 2 years ago 5
A friend of mine told me to check this song out because Nirvana "riped it of". I must say the riff is very similar, but who cares anyway, they're stil two very different songs, and both rock!
edissortofdead 2 years ago 4
@edissortofdead but the bassline is the same only slower on nirvana's "come as you are" song.
I don't think it was intentionnal plagierism, when u play guitar or bass its very easy to mistake a new riff with something u heard before and unconsciously use in a new composition
yetonGhul 1 year ago 2
Well...the original grunge/industrial sound is actually coming from Joy Division, but Killing Joke were definitely around that time and they even supported Joy Division back in late 70's.
karziflora 2 years ago
anyone know what kind of gibson that is, is it an ES 175 or an ES 135?
nihilist66 2 years ago
It's an ES-295. Which is pretty much an Es-175 with the gold finish off the Les Paul Gold top.
It was a model only made between the years of 1952-57.
posimativelynegative 2 years ago
@posimativelynegative
wow cool, that guitar must be worth a fortune ( 100 000 $ or something like that )
yetonGhul 1 year ago
@yetonGhul
It sure sounds that way.
EatTheTele 1 year ago
Umm, you mean come as you are sounds like THIS, right?
mikeaimer 2 years ago
The original grunge!!
grumpyoldgitt 2 years ago
Music isn't invented by musicians? Ummm, yeah it is. Music isn't spiritual or mysterious or any of that bullshit. It's just like martial arts, surfing and so many other things in that, people who are crap at it feel the need to invent this whole, insubstantial, "spiritual" side to it that they CAN be good at in their own minds, and that no-one can disprove.
vueO84783 2 years ago 3
Come on...music isn't invented by musicians....it grows...chords are chords...in tune...out of tune...the blues....the devil's chords...any song can be tracked to the blues and any song can be further tracked to classical sonnets and all that....man, the opening piano of, flippin cold as ice is almost exactly like the song from the soap the young and the restless...play guitar or piano by ear....and see how many songs you find via one chord...one key...
trustfundbabies 2 years ago
holy shit what the fuck are you smoking?!?!?! music is invented by musicians you retard fuck! it grows? WHAT THE FUCK! tracked to the blues? the guys who play by ear are the ones who most of the time don't have any formal studies on music, like yourself. Take your marijuana shit somewhere else hippie!
Redbloodedsky 2 years ago
Shows you don't understand the nature of invention. It is never the case of spontaneous, unconnected generation.
Maxdwolf 2 years ago
Come as you are, as you were, as an old ememy....
HOLY FUCK
abortionsbycrowbar 2 years ago
does anyone know where that footage of the punks from 1:13 - 1:18 is from? or was it just shot for the vid? much help if anyone knows
basque2112 2 years ago
Actually sounds like an old beatles song but which one?
fejkram 2 years ago
likes this
swantonmorleyman 2 years ago
Saw them at the John Anson Ford Theater! Loud as fuck and going off!
J3Five 2 years ago
Killing Joke reissues on vinyl soon!!
jasonbigelow 2 years ago
nirvana borrow the riff from the damned - life goes on not killing jokes eighties.
guitarguy5 2 years ago
What the fuck? This is a rip off of the damned's life goes on. So did killing Joke rip them off then Nirvana ripped KJ off? This shit sounds just like life goes on.
strummer126 2 years ago
with "Come As You Are" i mean
Skelet0nka 2 years ago
Humm.. even the riff is the same i don't see any other likeness
Skelet0nka 2 years ago
hahahahaha don't you have a dick to go suck
Nirvana1852 2 years ago
don't you have a mum to go fuck
KurdtKobain09 2 years ago
Muito foda!!!!!
henryqqk21 2 years ago
Damn, I just heard this the first time and it blew me away. What else do I have missed over the years??? By the way: The Drummer looks like Johnny Flodder.
javajimmy1090 2 years ago 4
This is older than "Come As You Are", not to mention superior...end of discussion.
HateDisease 2 years ago 3
Come As You Are younger and good this song is good to just enjoy the fucking music you fag
Nirvana1852 2 years ago
no come as you are cnt b younger cuz nirvana formed afta this song was made, cuz apparently this is in 1985
KurdtKobain09 2 years ago
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hahahahaha don't you have a dick to go suck
Nirvana1852 2 years ago
Poor little baby, whats the matter? Did I hurt your feelings by insulting your dead boyfriends music?
HateDisease 2 years ago
oh go i just fell to cyber bullying im going to go tell my mommie on you fucking dumbfuck why dont you all do us a favor and go meet my "boyfirend" and brush your teeth with a 9 mm thanks
Nirvana1852 2 years ago
come on nirvanal, it's late, go to bed
quadrosvedese 2 years ago 2
people like you justify negative eugenics.
wrybeat 2 years ago
and I'm talking about nirvana1852. You obviously are a huge tool.
wrybeat 2 years ago
got a problem with that
Nirvana1852 2 years ago
LOL
ollieroks 2 years ago
@Nirvana1852 Eighties was a song released in April 1984.
Supersweetguy 1 year ago
lolll music is a cycle of diffrent styles it changes all the time but then goes back 2 the start but diffrenty kinda
eatbullets666 2 years ago
Kurt Cobain Was a Fucking great guitar player u fucking ignorent!!!
if it wasnt for him he wouldnt have broke off tool stp and other 90s bands from the underground scene if u wouldve known anything u piece of shit!!!
ferman12863 2 years ago
Jesus fucking Christ are you wrong. Cobain didn't get any national attention until 1992. Tool formed in 1990, and STP was kicking around in various forms as early as 1986. Kurt Cobain was a mediocre guitarist at best, and Nirvana didn't influence anyone but the god-awful post-grungers of the early 2000s. Does it hurt being so "ignorent", or do you drink away the pain?
status343 2 years ago 23
mmm, drinking the pain away.
and yea, come as you are sounds very much alike.
revan664 2 years ago
cuz nirvana apparently stole it
: (
KurdtKobain09 2 years ago
@status343 It's "ignorant".....
wmcwhinney 1 year ago
@wmcwhinney You mean the quotation marks around the misspelled word weren't a big enough clue that I was mocking the user who originally made the error? Wow. But hey, while we're playing English teacher, I just thought I'd let you know that there are only three dots in an ellipsis, not five.
status343 1 year ago
@status343 with you bro
sminkyminky 9 months ago
its the same notes as come as you are, just the intervals are different. cobain admitted he ripped it off from this song, so no point to argue. he was a shit guitarist, thats why. but nirvana music was still good. much better than the crap thats popular these days in the mainstream.
iPissOnZOG 2 years ago 6
Huh...this DOES sound like Come As You Are...except this one sounds more badass
Tronnit 2 years ago 32
uma das mais importantes bandas do cenario punk mundial, maravilha... fantastico.... os anos 80 deveriam ser eternos....
rofartes 2 years ago
This song was so much fun to stomp around a dance floor to
APEHIT 2 years ago
Everthing came together in this song. Great song...catchy.
Jaialai55 2 years ago
Esses caras são engraçados =P
unshaaewew 2 years ago
Fuck Nirvana. That's just blatant copying right there.
The greatest bands of that era were Soundgarden, Alice in Chains, Sonic Youth, the Pixies and Kyuss.
daydreamnation54 2 years ago
you do realize Eighties is a rip off of Life Goes On by The Damned right? which that song is also a rip off of Baby Come Back by The Equals so before you criticize Nirvana for plagarism you should know that this song is a rip off of another song before it but hey they're all great songs & bands
GothKorn 2 years ago
Good point about the Eighties riff aping Life Goes On, but the note pattern is dissimilar enough to not merit a real 'ripoff' title. I don't agree that Life Goes On is a ripoff of Baby Come Back. You're hearing a similar pattern, but the key for Baby Come Back is major while the key for Eighties, Life Goes On, and Come As You Are is minor. Popular music is more about redefining and less about originality. Case in point? Blues artists rip each other off every second, so...whatever.
andybella 2 years ago
yeah thats true, sure technically everyone who plays a certain genre is ripping off the original lol, i really don't know what's the big deal about similarities, to tell you the truth they're all great songs way better than what we hear nowadays & you know whats the sad thing about this whole rip off ideal? more people are only gonna know Killing Joke for suing Nirvana rather than knowing how great their music was & the same is happening to Joe Satriani with this whole Coldplay Viva la Vida crap
GothKorn 2 years ago
You're right about that. People are more interested in who's suing who, and who's fighting who than the music or art that they're putting out. Killing Joke Rules!
andybella 2 years ago
Great band! This is one of my favorite videos from them!
mkultra138 2 years ago
Stop talking about fucking nirvana. Considering how easy it is to plagiarise in rock music, a genre that essentially recycles the same notes and scales in almost every song, come as you are is nothing like eighties.
Anyway, I especially love the vocals of this song, his delivery is pretty spectacular and the lyrics are very relatvent to the time it was written.
DKsmiles 2 years ago
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nirvana is way better fuck these fags and you fags!!!!!!!! hahahah later bitches
KingCobra0880 2 years ago
you're an idiot
m3dicated 2 years ago 2
you are
KingCobra0880 2 years ago
Oh yeah,music made by a pathetic white trash junkie is sooo much better than Killing Joke,right on brother!
jasonbigelow 2 years ago
This is a good song, but Killing Joke will never have as much success or fame as Nirvana did and they've been around much longer.
Darkit2099 2 years ago
Let's hear it for captain obvious!
wisterV 2 years ago
Come as you are = Eighties Smells like teen spirit = Gouge away
KillingJoke696 2 years ago
This song is very apt for Vancouver in 2010. A song about greed, selfishness, destruction and a hatred of your own community. The Olympics logo at the beginning of the video, reminds me all too well of the chaos and bullshit Vancouver will have to put up with, just so these corporate wanks and suck ups can stroke their egos for less than 3 weeks, while completely shitting on the local people. Eat this, you selfish, greedy, destructive, community hating, corporate bastards!
bandcouver 2 years ago
nirvana were not gods anyway as we see here
konheeed 3 years ago
yes.they maybe unfortunately copied those tunes.but nirvana has a few good songs.
auschwitzu 2 years ago
Do you mean the songs,where they ripped off the pixies. FUCK kURT COBAIN
jasonbigelow 2 years ago
I'm sure I saw this in 1984. Top stuff.
lonegroover 3 years ago
Killing Joke stolen their name from John Cleese...loooool
yourmamasdick 3 years ago
Or from Alan Moore...
carlosvazquez12 3 years ago
I'm pretty sure Killing Joke was there before Moore wrote the Killing Joke.
Incidentally, I've always thought Killing Joke would make a great soundtrack for Watchmen. It sure would be a hell of a lot better than fucking MCR covering Bob Dylan.
sergeantshroom 2 years ago
beautiful guitar sound,chorus and all..
germanroots 3 years ago 2
Cobain ripped off the riff and now he's dead. There is justice in this world, apparently :)
panzerny 3 years ago
He didn't rip it off completely, it just sounds like it. And it's totally unfair when you say justice, because we all know this had nothing to do with Cobain's death.
IcyPluto 3 years ago
have you ever heard about irony or black humour ?
panzerny 3 years ago 3
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stfu u noob....ive never heard of this band have u ever listened come as u are? dont think u did...this has nothing to do wiith it or with cobain's death...respect the legends mofo
MrDarkHawk 3 years ago
Do you even read comments or do you find yourself hitting random keys on a keyboard and strangely forming words? He said it was irony :S
Mythe66 3 years ago 2
and are u some kind of a weirdo dude? u dont even know to whom i replied.. since u dont shut up..and the dude i replied didnt say sth about irony. next time use ur head
MrDarkHawk 3 years ago
Right, instead of flaming me you actually proved my point! Well done!
Mythe66 3 years ago 2
kk what ever u asybitch now sod off
MrDarkHawk 3 years ago
But thats not the same riff like in come as you are . . .
just watch how guitarist plays it . . .
and then watch kurts song . . .
PePeCZPetr 3 years ago
eighties was first then nirvana
konheeed 3 years ago 3
Life goes on by the damned was before eighties
FucklyDuckly 3 years ago
this sounds like come as you are by nirvana but others say this song sounds like dirty magic by the offspring but i dont think so listen to that and see if you think it sounds similar
Qcumba94 3 years ago
it is impossible to write a song by not being inspiring by any other song and not to steal some riffs and convert these in your own style
smells like teen spirit
it is also in someway similiar to boston
both are great
konheeed 3 years ago 3
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kurt so fucking mage
kurt is fucking god
hahaha.
kisses for you kurt.
Fuga1890 3 years ago
Fuck, Nirvana still this song for "Come as you are"...
Aliain 3 years ago 4
kurt cobain said this in his diary
melaniasirotich 3 years ago
seems not much has changed!
push struggle..
ta jaz.
mangozumo 3 years ago 2
the best i am czech but he is undeth he playd vyth cechomor it is czech band an evry song ar FAMOUS Killing Joke i love it:D
Zbynek89gc 3 years ago
R.I.P. Raven
KJGould 3 years ago
the main guitar riff sounds just like nirvana's "come as you are". kurt cobain = riff-thief? lol.
anarchodolly 3 years ago
That's quite known. He said he took it from them.
ShinraDream 3 years ago 4
yeah plus answer me this who's been around longer? Which song came out first too?
puck1349 3 years ago
What? These guys and this song?
ShinraDream 3 years ago
you and anarchodolly were talking about who stole who's rift and I'm saying which song came out first Nirvana's "come as you are" or KJ "eighties"
puck1349 3 years ago
Eighties came out earlier ^^ nirvana got "problems" cause killing joke wasnt afrait about couverring this song
Kruemelmonster5491 3 years ago
Nirvana released "Nevermind" (The album 'Come As You Are' is on) in 1991.
Kurt took it.
BitsOHam 3 years ago
then that should solve this big argument on who stole it from who
puck1349 3 years ago
I can see the resemblance but it's not exact! IMO
beano1eye 3 years ago
love this song, love this band....excellent music that never gets old
jmiester25 3 years ago 3
This is so fkn mental!!!Used to love this song...Yep! Still do...I agree,jonslick13..Still feel alive.
slaxwell55 3 years ago
it feels good!! I fell still alive!
jonslick13 3 years ago