Have you tried the new capacitor hybrid's yet? THey are simular to super caps but they take some time to charge. I saw one in another video someone made they say hybrid on the side. Anyhow thanks for sharing the battery status.
i know winters coming up and i had an idea .. I was thinking about stories of russians running small radios or other loads by making thermocoulpes.. You could probably take steel cans and put a terminal on each and put one outside and one with a candle inside and the each will have holes in it to allow the best heat conduction and the cans wont break down because no acid is eating at the cans.. maybe the cans would oxidize faster and you'd have semiconducter material for a battery
lid If you ever get tired of one of your twist tie jt why dont you burn the paper off then i'd say you have the semiconductor steel or why dont you wire it up like resistance wire and put it on the seconday of a transformer thats stepped down to bring up the amps and the paper will burn off Id say your wife wouldn't like either idea if you done it inside.. maybe putting it in the cinders of a barbecue would work just as well and wouldn't deform the wire as much
@khoham -------The "twist tie" wire is plastic coated and appears to be tin coated iron or steel type alloy stuff. If I burned the wire I would have one terrible, smelly, gooey mess. That is one experiment that I better not try.
@Lidmotor well lidmotor you could put in hot water and soften the plastic.. you can then use a razor blade to cut the plastic away.. about the pulse motor i remember your jt motor vid and it could be a good fit for the twist tie wire.. was it dollar tree where you found the twist tie wire.
@khoham ------I found the wire at the 99 cent store. Dollar tree didn't have it. You can on that stuff on Amazon or Ebay but it is about $5 instead of $1. Hardware stores probably carry it also. I did make a pulse motor using this wire but I didn't like the performance.
@Lidmotor maybe you can lay out a pair side by side like large capacitors or like the shorted coax arial energy reciever shown on keely net and you could make it like a crystal set and tune it with taps on the tuning coil and another capacitor for resonance and make it a neon scr trigger pulsing into caps or a battery
When you showed the Jello cell a while back I made one, Jello/salts mix inside a piece of cut solder tube, a penny coin either side. That 'wet' cell is still running too, many weeks along :) I think there's a regulation of ion transfer through surface moisture, trapped by the sealing, generated like moisture on a window. Penny 1 cell has similar effect with the cardboard sealing it perhaps. Always wondered if that cardboard has gloss print on inner side, like cereal packets ?
@slider2732 -----I have a gelatine cell still working also. I was going to make a video of it. It is the UGLIEST home built battery ever made---but it is still making juice. The thing is that it was made without any "anti mold" stuff in it and it has grown rather well-----and it also stinks!!! The cardboard on the stove top cells is glossy on the inside. The cardboard came off boxes that had labels on them. I don't think that it effects the cells though.
Glad to see the crystal glue cell still alive. The glue cells are meant to run a load then recharge when you remove the load so the LED will go out. As for the corrosion its due to when you first make the cell the water in the glue corrodes the plates a little and also the moisture in the air. When you make a glue cell you let it dry and then put spray paint on it to keep water out and it will last for a really long time.
@ibpointless2 ------My "stainless steel crystal cell" that has the auto on/off led circuit has been doing the recharge thing really well. It recharges itself during the day when the circuit shuts off most of the draw and then at night it runs down as the led is on. It is fun to watch. I will try your spray painting idea on a cell and see what happens.
@72fr250 Very good point. The small axial and radial inductors can be replicated by winding them with same small gauge magnetic wire, so Chinese don’t do it any better as far as size/quality. As for lower cost, Chinese pull this off by mass production, slave labor and currency manipulation (cheating to gain competive advantage). To top it off, bad economic times increases their market share as more people bargain hunt. Yes it is insane and we all sometimes contribute to it without realizing it!
@ReasonForemost ----I think that sooner or later these super inexpensive "things" from over there will dry up or become much more costly. This can't go on forever. They must be losing tons of money to capture and dominate the market.
@Lidmotor It’s a sad fact that after years of irresponsible deficit spending US national debt is over $14,936,000,000,000 trillion dollars. If irresponsible spending is not stopped China will ‘own’ us before most realize what happened, US already owes China over $1,160,000,000,000 trillion dollars. Nearsighted corps moving manufacturing plants to China are playing into their hands. As long as Chinese government is allowed to manipulate currency and maintain trade surplus they won’t lose money.
@Edmorbus ----The pulse motor here is just a simple reed switch type with a Radio Shack 25 ohm rheostat to control the power. Runs on a AA battery at 10 to 45mA .
Hi, Can you make a pulse motor using a cheap clock circuit?
buddybill65 3 months ago
Have you tried the new capacitor hybrid's yet? THey are simular to super caps but they take some time to charge. I saw one in another video someone made they say hybrid on the side. Anyhow thanks for sharing the battery status.
egn83b 4 months ago
i know winters coming up and i had an idea .. I was thinking about stories of russians running small radios or other loads by making thermocoulpes.. You could probably take steel cans and put a terminal on each and put one outside and one with a candle inside and the each will have holes in it to allow the best heat conduction and the cans wont break down because no acid is eating at the cans.. maybe the cans would oxidize faster and you'd have semiconducter material for a battery
khoham 4 months ago
lid If you ever get tired of one of your twist tie jt why dont you burn the paper off then i'd say you have the semiconductor steel or why dont you wire it up like resistance wire and put it on the seconday of a transformer thats stepped down to bring up the amps and the paper will burn off Id say your wife wouldn't like either idea if you done it inside.. maybe putting it in the cinders of a barbecue would work just as well and wouldn't deform the wire as much
khoham 4 months ago
@khoham -------The "twist tie" wire is plastic coated and appears to be tin coated iron or steel type alloy stuff. If I burned the wire I would have one terrible, smelly, gooey mess. That is one experiment that I better not try.
Lidmotor 4 months ago
@Lidmotor well lidmotor you could put in hot water and soften the plastic.. you can then use a razor blade to cut the plastic away.. about the pulse motor i remember your jt motor vid and it could be a good fit for the twist tie wire.. was it dollar tree where you found the twist tie wire.
khoham 4 months ago
@khoham ------I found the wire at the 99 cent store. Dollar tree didn't have it. You can on that stuff on Amazon or Ebay but it is about $5 instead of $1. Hardware stores probably carry it also. I did make a pulse motor using this wire but I didn't like the performance.
Lidmotor 4 months ago
@Lidmotor maybe you can lay out a pair side by side like large capacitors or like the shorted coax arial energy reciever shown on keely net and you could make it like a crystal set and tune it with taps on the tuning coil and another capacitor for resonance and make it a neon scr trigger pulsing into caps or a battery
khoham 4 months ago
When you showed the Jello cell a while back I made one, Jello/salts mix inside a piece of cut solder tube, a penny coin either side. That 'wet' cell is still running too, many weeks along :) I think there's a regulation of ion transfer through surface moisture, trapped by the sealing, generated like moisture on a window. Penny 1 cell has similar effect with the cardboard sealing it perhaps. Always wondered if that cardboard has gloss print on inner side, like cereal packets ?
slider2732 4 months ago
@slider2732 -----I have a gelatine cell still working also. I was going to make a video of it. It is the UGLIEST home built battery ever made---but it is still making juice. The thing is that it was made without any "anti mold" stuff in it and it has grown rather well-----and it also stinks!!! The cardboard on the stove top cells is glossy on the inside. The cardboard came off boxes that had labels on them. I don't think that it effects the cells though.
Lidmotor 4 months ago
Thanks for info
Edmorbus 4 months ago
Glad to see the crystal glue cell still alive. The glue cells are meant to run a load then recharge when you remove the load so the LED will go out. As for the corrosion its due to when you first make the cell the water in the glue corrodes the plates a little and also the moisture in the air. When you make a glue cell you let it dry and then put spray paint on it to keep water out and it will last for a really long time.
ibpointless2 4 months ago
@ibpointless2 ------My "stainless steel crystal cell" that has the auto on/off led circuit has been doing the recharge thing really well. It recharges itself during the day when the circuit shuts off most of the draw and then at night it runs down as the led is on. It is fun to watch. I will try your spray painting idea on a cell and see what happens.
Lidmotor 4 months ago
why dont you make a pulse motor out of the toroid from the florescent
khoham 4 months ago
@khoham --That would probably work fine but it might be hard to get enough turns on that tiny toroid to keep the amp draw down.
Lidmotor 4 months ago
@72fr250 Very good point. The small axial and radial inductors can be replicated by winding them with same small gauge magnetic wire, so Chinese don’t do it any better as far as size/quality. As for lower cost, Chinese pull this off by mass production, slave labor and currency manipulation (cheating to gain competive advantage). To top it off, bad economic times increases their market share as more people bargain hunt. Yes it is insane and we all sometimes contribute to it without realizing it!
ReasonForemost 4 months ago
@ReasonForemost ----I think that sooner or later these super inexpensive "things" from over there will dry up or become much more costly. This can't go on forever. They must be losing tons of money to capture and dominate the market.
Lidmotor 4 months ago
@Lidmotor It’s a sad fact that after years of irresponsible deficit spending US national debt is over $14,936,000,000,000 trillion dollars. If irresponsible spending is not stopped China will ‘own’ us before most realize what happened, US already owes China over $1,160,000,000,000 trillion dollars. Nearsighted corps moving manufacturing plants to China are playing into their hands. As long as Chinese government is allowed to manipulate currency and maintain trade surplus they won’t lose money.
ReasonForemost 4 months ago
Could you give us the link for the solar flashlight (or what to search for) on eBay.
nealc99 4 months ago
@nealc99 A bunch of them out there; ebay: 250912649514
Kntryhart 4 months ago
@nealc99 ---"mini solar 3 led flashlight" on Ebay search bar. It is a China thing so it takes awhile to get them.
Lidmotor 4 months ago
Thanks for sharing have circuit for motor.
Edmorbus 4 months ago
@Edmorbus ----The pulse motor here is just a simple reed switch type with a Radio Shack 25 ohm rheostat to control the power. Runs on a AA battery at 10 to 45mA .
Lidmotor 4 months ago
Absolutely want to try, but I'm SOOooooo....... Not at this level. :(
laztek1 4 months ago
Once again, you prove you are the master. Thanks for all of your help.
OUbrads 4 months ago
@OUbrads -----It is just fun stuff. The crystal cell project is one of the hardest things that I have done though because of the chemistry involved.
Lidmotor 4 months ago
WHAT makes these little Chinese parts better then anything we can replicate? The size/cost difference is insane!
72fr250 4 months ago