Hey man, what settings are you using when you play here and when you play in other videos? I mean assists :) I played this without any assists, well auto clutch and man it was hard but its REALLY good.. the friggin sounds from the cars are just insane. Handling is very good, same level as rFactor but the game is made by GTR makers so no wonder. Anyway really nice game, sad its not complete yet but its a brilliant move to get the game out to players year before release if not even more.
@HDTanel Oh this is all assists off, manual with auto clutch, saying that the Formula cars would always use a auto clutch anyway (apart from the hand clutch at the start). It's coming along well and I hope to run another update soon.
@MrFrumpleGrump Sure, basically the game was altered late in its development and somethings couldn't easily be altered, hence the er shifty handling. :)
@MrFrumpleGrump I played the original before handling alteration and rasied it with the VP of EA /watch?v=c6rQYjMJJ4s not a story I've been sold, more one of my own personal experience and supported with this interview.
@MrFrumpleGrump Shift 1 handled perfectly, then at a late stage EA wanted to make it easier so the handling was essentially hacked to fix this. Buildng on this version the hole left was still there and though the physics system was solid the said hack obviously couldn't be resolved. Fixed for Cars so far, no sloppy handling, no cars that are unable to go in a straight line. Coming along nicely, expect many more previews in the coming months.
@MrFrumpleGrump To be fair you should have watched all of my coverage which discussed the issues with different cars and how they handle, the Radical was fine on the PS3 but terrible on the PC, the patch improved things but could never completely repair handling, which, at its core was broken.
Did you ever get shift 2 to stop waving all over on the straights? If so please inform me how I recently tried geting into the game yet again(about the sixth time) and it seems worse now than at launch. I have a g27 and have tried with graphics on lowered settings but that didn't fix it. I play all kinds of racing sims and games and I realy want to get this fixed.
@beernutmark The vibration of chair was shaking the floorboards, that's an indication if you like of the force within the chair, hence why people do get motion sickness.
@Senninha2011 Oh no I'm mainly trying to get across to people how early this game really is and to be so impressive at such an early stage. Yeah some great sim elements, though I'm not feeling the karts yet, not stable enough. But this isn't a review, more of an early look and we'll cover more in the coming months. :)
Well said Alan on getting involved rather than just slating the game for being this or that. The game for such an early build is extremely promising and it's very refreshing like you say to have a dev team actually willing to such a thing.
Do you not play any PC racing sims Alan? rFactor? iRacing? If you haven't played them, you are missing out on the best sims available. I would think you would be playing a lot more PC than console, considering what type of sim racer you are.
@jrguitargeek I have played them but it can be very time consuming. Been meaning to run some iRacing all year but I simply don't have the time to refine my racing as I would like. Hence if I'm away learning and game there is nobbody putting videos up. Hope to find more time for PC gaming but right now I need a new PC rig.
Does that seat simulate grip? By that I mean when you start to lose grip can you feel that loss of traction? I saw a different type of sim chair that pivoted from the front so that it could move to simulate loss of grip at the rear when the back stepped out.
@Seafit69 It's certainly gives highly responsive feedback, I think you see a section in the Formula B where I hit some grass during an overtake into turn 1 and it completely imbalances the car.
@evilfangs It's not F1, Codemasters have that license so this is a different type of game, the developers are not so restricted in the structure of the product, ultimately making for greater potential.
@scrustle SMS are self-publishing this game. EA have no part in it, unless they attempt to become a corporate investor in a simulation focused game. I highly doubt that they will, seeing their design decisions made with their recent racing game release.
@yomimitsune Ah good to know. But the Shift games are supposed to be sims though right? They fail at that of course but that's what they are going for with those. That's why EA won't allow Turn10 to use Porsche in their games anymore, EA are trying to steal their business.
@scrustle I believe Shift was aiming for delivering a very 'raw', visceral (so to speak) racing experience in terms of immersion, though the actual execution of the design idea was tainted by EA's strategy to sell it off to as many audiences as possible. Every track-based racing game, even Forza, GT, iRacing, rFactor and Shift, is deserving of a simulation label, as the commonly accepted definition states that they are programs that attempt to imitates the behaviour of their intended process.
@scrustle The one issue of this stealing of business with racing franchises is that it can only negatively impact the quality of the end user's experience, through the cutbacks in features and general 'monetisation' of what is meant to be an un-biased representation of racing a vehicle.
The moment that publishers of these franchises realised that they could degrade the quality of their simulations for additional profits was a disappointing time indeed.
this is the pc version of gt5 :] or better :] if it will include f1 or modders make it then it will be the best racing game, i just miss arms from the wheel :] without arms so scarry :D
Are Slightly Mad Studios in the UK? they have improved the AI loads in the 86 build, although its funny driving around a partly developed Bathurst, kept falling through the barriers and out of the map. if you could can you find out if they are planning on trying to get V8 Supercars, in the game? I would ask my self but I don't like using forums and I'm sure others here would like to know too.
I dont really like the handling, it does feel like shift 2 i think. I cant really explain whats wrong with it, it just feels wrong. I really like the idea though, and hopefully it will improve as we get later builds. :) Great vids Mate!
@Imstonerlol yes, but its in my opinion very cheap for something of this quality. besides when you buy a membership now you either get the game when its released for free or a discount. atm ive got team memeber which is 25 euro. :D
It's looking really good! Would love a shot of that D-box too! Got to agree with you on the tv cam replays, they look much better, wish Codies would implement them in their F1 games!
@Karto86 only visually and even then its focus is on reality rather than dressing up a track to look pretty. No stupid balloons and party bunting and inflatable structures. the feel of the cars are completely different to shift, the steering feels like you actually controlling the vehicle and not like your trying to will it through corners.
Indeed it does look really promising. Is it a regular game like forza 4 i mean is it going to be sold with a box or will it be only in download purchase ?
@Dimberaidiel02 way too early to be able to answer those questions yet, but you can pay 10 euro's and get involved in trying it now. Also get access to the forum and get to see and comment on the development.
Hey man, what settings are you using when you play here and when you play in other videos? I mean assists :) I played this without any assists, well auto clutch and man it was hard but its REALLY good.. the friggin sounds from the cars are just insane. Handling is very good, same level as rFactor but the game is made by GTR makers so no wonder. Anyway really nice game, sad its not complete yet but its a brilliant move to get the game out to players year before release if not even more.
HDTanel 1 month ago
@HDTanel Oh this is all assists off, manual with auto clutch, saying that the Formula cars would always use a auto clutch anyway (apart from the hand clutch at the start). It's coming along well and I hope to run another update soon.
TeamVVV 1 month ago
@MrFrumpleGrump Sure, basically the game was altered late in its development and somethings couldn't easily be altered, hence the er shifty handling. :)
TeamVVV 2 months ago
@MrFrumpleGrump I played the original before handling alteration and rasied it with the VP of EA /watch?v=c6rQYjMJJ4s not a story I've been sold, more one of my own personal experience and supported with this interview.
TeamVVV 2 months ago
@MrFrumpleGrump Shift 1 handled perfectly, then at a late stage EA wanted to make it easier so the handling was essentially hacked to fix this. Buildng on this version the hole left was still there and though the physics system was solid the said hack obviously couldn't be resolved. Fixed for Cars so far, no sloppy handling, no cars that are unable to go in a straight line. Coming along nicely, expect many more previews in the coming months.
TeamVVV 2 months ago
@MrFrumpleGrump To be fair you should have watched all of my coverage which discussed the issues with different cars and how they handle, the Radical was fine on the PS3 but terrible on the PC, the patch improved things but could never completely repair handling, which, at its core was broken.
TeamVVV 2 months ago
Only I see this input lag, like in Shift ? ))
xkirkonx1 3 months ago
@myztazynizta oh ok thanks for the info..cant wait to get it
trebealing41 3 months ago
Huge delay between you moving the g25 and the ingame wheel responding. Turn V-SYNCH off!
ArtCrag 3 months ago
Did you ever get shift 2 to stop waving all over on the straights? If so please inform me how I recently tried geting into the game yet again(about the sixth time) and it seems worse now than at launch. I have a g27 and have tried with graphics on lowered settings but that didn't fix it. I play all kinds of racing sims and games and I realy want to get this fixed.
killrathy 3 months ago
why arent there any hands on the wheel in the game ?
YaniLovesTopGear 3 months ago
Any idea on the pricing of this game when its released?
Maddo03 3 months ago
@Maddo03 it will be free-to-play! but you will be able to buy extra features
Motorsports43 3 months ago
@Motorsports43 That's only for the pre-alpha version. You'll have to pay for the final version of the game.
GustavoMsTrashCan 2 months ago
I can't watch this video without getting seasick. What the heck is wrong with the footage. The brick wall is distorting like rubber.
beernutmark 3 months ago
@beernutmark The vibration of chair was shaking the floorboards, that's an indication if you like of the force within the chair, hence why people do get motion sickness.
TeamVVV 3 months ago
@beernutmark Maybe you shouldn't put 'beer' in your name ;)
MattAangenaam 3 months ago
9:00, i so think you mean Codemasters, and i agree, terrible company for this, arrogant.
JamesonAshbeck 3 months ago
@JamesonAshbeck more like Gran Turismo
kizzagt 3 months ago
@Senninha2011 Oh no I'm mainly trying to get across to people how early this game really is and to be so impressive at such an early stage. Yeah some great sim elements, though I'm not feeling the karts yet, not stable enough. But this isn't a review, more of an early look and we'll cover more in the coming months. :)
TeamVVV 3 months ago
have u played gtr evolution? im getting it of steam today gonna try with my fanatec wheel mate
footballisrubbish 3 months ago
If this game gets the financial support that the developers thrive to achieve....we might be in for the best Car Games EVER!
wandererslegion 3 months ago
Great videos Alan! I love having TeamVVV on my favorites list and seeing you update it much more frequent than my others. Keep up the good work man!
BranWrig2011 3 months ago
Well said Alan on getting involved rather than just slating the game for being this or that. The game for such an early build is extremely promising and it's very refreshing like you say to have a dev team actually willing to such a thing.
BSNismo 3 months ago
will you be reviewing wrc 2?
Calum643 3 months ago
Do you not play any PC racing sims Alan? rFactor? iRacing? If you haven't played them, you are missing out on the best sims available. I would think you would be playing a lot more PC than console, considering what type of sim racer you are.
jrguitargeek 3 months ago
@jrguitargeek I have played them but it can be very time consuming. Been meaning to run some iRacing all year but I simply don't have the time to refine my racing as I would like. Hence if I'm away learning and game there is nobbody putting videos up. Hope to find more time for PC gaming but right now I need a new PC rig.
TeamVVV 3 months ago
@TeamVVV How does this game's physics compare to forza 4 or gt5 or any console simulation game?
TheStockCarStig 3 months ago
@jrguitargeek Cars IS a pc game.
paterah 2 months ago
Does that seat simulate grip? By that I mean when you start to lose grip can you feel that loss of traction? I saw a different type of sim chair that pivoted from the front so that it could move to simulate loss of grip at the rear when the back stepped out.
Seafit69 3 months ago
@Seafit69 It's certainly gives highly responsive feedback, I think you see a section in the Formula B where I hit some grass during an overtake into turn 1 and it completely imbalances the car.
TeamVVV 3 months ago
I'm glad that the tracks for CARS are being laser-scanned. Makes a worthwhile difference IMO.
ComicPenius 3 months ago
is this game coming out on console or just pc ?
TUBZY11 3 months ago
@TUBZY11 They're hoping to release it on all platforms. It uses a modified NFS:Shift 2 engine so it should be possible.
ComicPenius 3 months ago
Why would you buy this instead of F1? What's so special about it that you should buy this instead of F1?
evilfangs 3 months ago
@evilfangs It's not F1, Codemasters have that license so this is a different type of game, the developers are not so restricted in the structure of the product, ultimately making for greater potential.
TeamVVV 3 months ago
Those karts look fun. It was funny to see the A.I fail about like that! But who is publishing this game? EA?
scrustle 3 months ago
@scrustle SMS are self-publishing this game. EA have no part in it, unless they attempt to become a corporate investor in a simulation focused game. I highly doubt that they will, seeing their design decisions made with their recent racing game release.
yomimitsune 3 months ago
@yomimitsune Ah good to know. But the Shift games are supposed to be sims though right? They fail at that of course but that's what they are going for with those. That's why EA won't allow Turn10 to use Porsche in their games anymore, EA are trying to steal their business.
scrustle 3 months ago
@scrustle I believe Shift was aiming for delivering a very 'raw', visceral (so to speak) racing experience in terms of immersion, though the actual execution of the design idea was tainted by EA's strategy to sell it off to as many audiences as possible. Every track-based racing game, even Forza, GT, iRacing, rFactor and Shift, is deserving of a simulation label, as the commonly accepted definition states that they are programs that attempt to imitates the behaviour of their intended process.
yomimitsune 3 months ago
@scrustle The one issue of this stealing of business with racing franchises is that it can only negatively impact the quality of the end user's experience, through the cutbacks in features and general 'monetisation' of what is meant to be an un-biased representation of racing a vehicle.
The moment that publishers of these franchises realised that they could degrade the quality of their simulations for additional profits was a disappointing time indeed.
I hope C.A.R.S. will be a nice change.
yomimitsune 3 months ago
is there a free demo I can download? seeing as its in alpha I doubt it.
Ellis01234567890 3 months ago
this is the pc version of gt5 :] or better :] if it will include f1 or modders make it then it will be the best racing game, i just miss arms from the wheel :] without arms so scarry :D
fatallerror 3 months ago
I love the go kart, got a 43.7 on the kart track :)
Jakejw93 3 months ago
Do they have any plans as of yet on release platforms or is it just a PC release on the cards at the moment?
KakvTheWorld 3 months ago
You need to learn how to say Bathurst correctly
iAussieGamer 3 months ago
one questions : Rally in C.A.R.S ? ( Sorry, my inglish so bad )
Mati03x 3 months ago
@Mati03x Its unlikely but it may be available if someone mods the game
RetrogamerFTW 3 months ago
I thought Alan said "testicles" for a second here: 2:34
JackBrockley 3 months ago
Are Slightly Mad Studios in the UK? they have improved the AI loads in the 86 build, although its funny driving around a partly developed Bathurst, kept falling through the barriers and out of the map. if you could can you find out if they are planning on trying to get V8 Supercars, in the game? I would ask my self but I don't like using forums and I'm sure others here would like to know too.
dfragglet 3 months ago
@dfragglet Well rather that testing every build I'll probably cover 1 in every 15 or so, showing the leaps in development.
TeamVVV 3 months ago
I dont really like the handling, it does feel like shift 2 i think. I cant really explain whats wrong with it, it just feels wrong. I really like the idea though, and hopefully it will improve as we get later builds. :) Great vids Mate!
JTURNER042 3 months ago
do i have to pay for the team member to get the download
Imstonerlol 3 months ago
@Imstonerlol yes, but its in my opinion very cheap for something of this quality. besides when you buy a membership now you either get the game when its released for free or a discount. atm ive got team memeber which is 25 euro. :D
anels9 3 months ago
I want forza!
jordanfrazierful 3 months ago
It's looking really good! Would love a shot of that D-box too! Got to agree with you on the tv cam replays, they look much better, wish Codies would implement them in their F1 games!
Kcoop89 3 months ago
is cars only being released on pc as would love to play it on xbox
mancavemotorsports 3 months ago
@TeamVVV Will this be on Xbox?
TheGentlemansYear 3 months ago
wow this is what shift should have been but EA got their hands on that..wish this game was on console
trebealing41 3 months ago
@trebealing41 It's not a real game yet.
It won't be for another 18 months or so.
When it's finished, 18 months from now, it will be available for PS3, 360, WiiU, PC and possibly Mac & psp vita.
myztazynizta 3 months ago
Hi is that chair available to buy and if so do you know how much ?
Thanks
emperor0fwar 3 months ago
@emperor0fwar It's available from D-Box technologies, probably ranging from at least £5000 upwards.
TeamVVV 3 months ago
@TeamVVV that's one for the lottery list! d-box with a Fanatec CSR Elite and Club Sport Pedals and 3 40" tv's on a i7 rig/crossfire set up.
dfragglet 3 months ago
my test track would be montreal
DesotellRacing62 3 months ago
Is that TV set on gaming mode? You have like half a second of lag on your screen :p
amdrke 3 months ago
@amdrke It's a very early version so you can't judge that stuff yet.
TeamVVV 3 months ago
@TeamVVV it's the same as shift series:(
Karto86 3 months ago
@Karto86 What's the same?
TeamVVV 3 months ago
@Karto86 only visually and even then its focus is on reality rather than dressing up a track to look pretty. No stupid balloons and party bunting and inflatable structures. the feel of the cars are completely different to shift, the steering feels like you actually controlling the vehicle and not like your trying to will it through corners.
dfragglet 3 months ago
will the drivers eventually grow hands?
doiwantsomerandom 3 months ago
@doiwantsomerandom It's possible the final version will include the option of hands on or off, we'll wait and see.
TeamVVV 3 months ago
Any footage of the mega test track?
realkman666 3 months ago
@realkman666 Not yet, hopefully in next months round-up.
TeamVVV 3 months ago
Indeed it does look really promising. Is it a regular game like forza 4 i mean is it going to be sold with a box or will it be only in download purchase ?
Dimberaidiel02 3 months ago
@Dimberaidiel02 way too early to be able to answer those questions yet, but you can pay 10 euro's and get involved in trying it now. Also get access to the forum and get to see and comment on the development.
dfragglet 3 months ago
Will the game have Melborne(albert park)? because thats my test track.
SquidAlex117 3 months ago
Very smooth gameplay looks challenging too. You can tell a lot of works going into this. thanks for sharing the footage
leezaal 3 months ago
what a game
rockabdechafi4ever 3 months ago
This game looks really promising!
Maxmus050 3 months ago
looks like a good game
j9kl 3 months ago