Wow. Many men died in order to obtain these techniques. To ascribe Christianity to their memory is so utterly disrespectful to them it makes me want to cry blood.
@badhorsy2003 Well, as one of the descendants of those whom "died in order to obtain these techniques", and knowing also that they were also Japanese Christians, I find your comment utterly disrespectful. My relatives served as Samurai retainers under the Otomo Clan, one clan of many who were either Christian, or Christian supporters.
You guys. Geez, I would not have thought these videos could stir up so much criticism. Just for the record, I'm one of the sensai's students in the Yukon, so is my son, and I don't have a religious bone in my body. Sensai is not preachy, but his spirituality is obviously important to him, and he's a fine man so whatever he's doing back off. I never comment on videos, period, but this just all seems ridiculous. I've heard him say the word god, maybe twice in the last year. It's good stuff.
To those giving him a hard time with mixing Christianity and Martial Arts.. Relax, he isn't hurting any of you. An using his faith with Martial Arts is necessary for him and myself. He isn't "stealing" anything. He is simply making his own system. There is no crime for that. Sigun Bruce, Ed Parker and Insanto believe a art must grow or it will die. Peace...
Wow after 32 years of training still the same old crap Yeshua Do (Jesus way) please "thou shall not steal" come on man training and budo are one thing living a Christian life is another- What martial science did Jesus study or teach- what martial science did John the baptist study or teach- yeah maybe you are confusing the tenets of the crazy man with the torn in his flesh Paul to what being a Christian or follower of Christ is. Aikido wa budo de aru- /cut the crap be a Christian not a thief
@gcastil What you really mean is be good, do what we're told, and disarm ourselves, for your convenience. Let me think about this a second ... long enough, uh, no.
If you wanted us to disarm, try not leading with hatred and disrespect, lull us into a false sense of trust, AND THEN suggest we disarm!
Just for the record are you supposing to be an expert in religion, or martial history?
By your logic, just say, oh, you're not Japanese so no karate for you! Just as senseless!
I always found it interesting how when Christians want to justify war/violence they quote the Old Testament, and when they advocate peace/non-violence they quote the New Testament...
@Hobbes306 I always thought that the Bible was one continuous/progressive work? That would mean that the God of the Old Testament is the same as the God in the New?
I am not an expert by any means. I see that it looks good to me. I like the idea of integrating my religion into something else that I am fond of. I am VERY much interested in this. I hope to learn about this.
Weapons in Aikido is a training exercise for posture and movement for your tachiwaza, it is not for being able to use the weapon for fighting, other schools teach this.
As for arrogance, Aikido was developed after duels were made illegal. It has never been put to the test like Kenjutsu/Jodo and so doesn't have any evidence to back up the claims of having good weapon techniques. It's original weapon take away techniques are also questionable for this reason.
Don't talk to me about arrogance when unproven crap calls itself a martial art.
Is merited arrogance really arrogance? I keep myself humble and know my place in my own dojo, but you're the one demanding respect for Aikido. What business do you have to command my respect?
I know you have a problem with english (or you were tired) so I'll make this simple. I give respect where respect is due, not where it is asked of me.
@ihaterobbie123 I was confised by your comments until I saw that you don't believe in God. You only bad-mouth Aikido because it's birth was from a deeply religious man.
If you don't "believe" in something than Don't!
We who DO have no interest in what you have to say!
This is what happens when you give a legitimate martial art like shinto muso-ryu to americans...the movements are flashy, the poses are "cool". But the strikes are half assed, the stance is weak, the techniques are rubbish.
I don't think people realise that after you hit someone your weapon stops...it doesn't knock them 10 feet back like in the movies. And if it misses, with the weight distribution shown here, you're wide open and asking for it.
he is not doing shinto muso-ryu but rather aiki-jo-do. the strike u criticized 1:34 is called toma-katate-uchi; but you didnt learn it yet. practicing on sand as u see its not easy and movements-balance can be slow down and weaken.
maybe you will show your performance so pp can judge you better, thx.
Since when is Yukon Canada considered America? Try reading the vid first before going off on your "I hate Americans" bs. IMO, this guy had great form. Not sure why you think hating those more skilled then yourself will win you respect.
Fine, I'll rephrase that, CHRISTIANS. It's all the same McDojo bull anyway.
"great form" Aikido is the only martial art ridiculed in Japan by other arts due to it's lack of proper form. Proper budo forums have trolling Aikidoka because everyone else thinks they're rediculous.
WIKI as many martial arts as you like, Aikido is unique in that it has a criticisms section.
What about any of this distinguishes it as "Christian" as opposed to anything else?
Even in Japan the martial arts are not "religious" activities. They are athletic activities with some philosophical and religious overtones.
The Bible is an enormous and one of the best epic adventures, so I'm not knocking it, but this "Jesus-Way" martial art comes across as highly oddball, unless it was the art of the Christian bushi clans, 17th C.
Is "Christian Martial Arts" a poor choice of words to refer to the "westernized" martial arts, or is it literal? Because that would make my day and the following days of the week.
I mean, how do you chop people with your katana in a christian way? How is it different to, say, muslim martial arts?
You get different powers depending on which god you follow like in D&D?
Hello, I can speak only rather kata 31 which Musubi jo kata is called at you. As I have seen attempt to copy these movements, but a number of technical omissions, such as at first sight rushes: absence of concentration, too wide movements, which most part have nothing no sense, they simply superfluous. jo should be always connected with the centre. For increase of level of possession of Musubi jo kata, I recommend to pay attention on iwama aikido jo kata 31, Saito Hitohiro
Attempt to copy? U r always learning MA by copying master, isnt it?
This moves r much more of Nishio, Yamaguchi and Endo senseis styles emphasizing importance of fluidity and wide circles. Saitos aikido is pretty much conservative, stiffed and rigid and does not have those moves, so its easy for u to criticize something u never had a chance to learn or understand. But its good if u just stick to Iwama style i think.
Cont. - Whats your opinion about OT warriors such as: Samson, David, Gideon, Joshua, Moses, Abraham, and many others; are they bad guys and sinners? So, does your religious denomination condemn the practice of martial arts? Do you condemn also this man as a sinner?
I have a question to religious guys - leofrankfurter, garouHH, talmidshelyeshua, and few others who left comment to these video-clips: Is it sin to practice martial arts?
Bible says very clearly that everything is permissive/allowed except sin, (sin is a main problem, isnt it?). And as I understand the Word there is a lot of liberty for Christians to express their talents and gifts.
Considering I am not a Christian, I have no problem with practicing martial arts, they are well-aligned with my world view. But I was educated in Christianity, confirmed even, so I suffered quite heavy cognitive dissonance when I came upon this video. Also, to put it bluntly, OT doesn't count anymore, as Jesus brought a new covenant with God, establishing "new" rules based on a radical new interpretation of the old laws. Those you named didn't sin in their time, but later would have.
garouHH are you sure you were educated in Christianity? How you can say that OT doesnt count anymore; read at least Matt.5-7. God didnt change his laws, He upholds it, but the way to fulfill it is different, isnt it?
Those you named didn't sin in their time, but later would have. And what you mean by that? What about army and national-defense, police, security guards, etc; are all those guys sinners because their job is to keep order and protect the nation?
It may not have been your favorite flavor of Christianity, but yes, I am sure of my education. Especially concerning Matthew 5,39-40, which I'd like you to ponder with respect to the work of police and military and the possibility that you have been justifying means with ends. Also, you paraphrased John the Baptist. Can you find a Jesus quote to similar effect?
And yes, the basis for the rules may be same, but the new covenants interpretation and rules thus following *are* radically different.
Luke 22:35-38...a legitimate perogative toward self defense (up to and including lethal force)...which is in keeping with Psalm 88:10-12, and God given glory for that reasonable response to unreasonable violence in Psalm 144:1...
Additionally to mirror Sun Tzu...War is
inauspicious and is only considered because is is the place of life and death, so it is wise that it should be pondered upon soberly ...I would add "and by people of good moral character who hate violence as a *way of life.*
cont. - What about father protecting his family from assault or his wife from raping; he too will be accounted by you as a sinner? NT never abolished the necessity of order; read Romans. John the Baptist never ordered soldiers to abandon their profession, but to be content with pay; isnt NT? And theres much more in NT. Use your mind and logic too.
Old Testament definitely counts, but is not perhaps the best place to justify our liberty to defend...well...liberty, and life...the "radical new interpretation" argument presupposes that God didn't know his laws would go "out of date" but there are differences in application predicated upon whether you were a child of Abraham or not.../ or by contrast a grafted in gentile...however this forum and it limitations make exposition of that truth problematic.
Alot of the christians I know are allways saying what would Jesus do. Alot of the post I see here remind me that they do not ask that so they can do it. They want to say Jesus would do it this way so they can tell you to do it.
I have to agree with the naysayers; budo and Christianity don't mix well. Martial arts are, when you cut through the PR that's spouted to make them palatable to western sensitivities, weapons. The bible is quite explicit in that regard: "Live by the sword, die by the sword." The peace that martial arts bring to the budoka is that of violence channeled wisely, not of violence extinguished. There is nothing christian about knowing how to fight well.
There is nothing non-Christian about being skilled, either...and the wise channeling of skills for the defense of hearth and home is definitely Christian...
brawling, or wanton violence never...
so you need to rightly divide the word (as Paul admonished Timothy)...Jesus told the apostles to have a sword, but among 12 men, two swords was "enough"...
underscoring the defensive, nature of that edict...rather than an endorsement to war. (Luke 22:35-38)
@yeshuado Yet Jesus commanded his disciples in Luke 22:36 to "buy a sword" but among twelve men when two swords were presented Jesus said, "It is enough" is vs. 38 of the same chapter ... obviously inadequate for a warfare of the flesh, it was, however, enough for two to keep watch while ten slept ... therefore ... self defense and personal protection.
the way of Jesus would not involve weapons at all (well, if you read what he taught anyway)
And if you are trying to replace some fo the cultural trappings of Japanese martial arts with western, christian cultural trappings, then why the Japanese outfit?
Great forms and all, but it has nothing to do with Jesus, sorry.
I think you missed the point. Martial arts are not for killing or hurting people at all; its sole purpose is for self-defense and cultivation of precision and self-discipline.
And also the bible never supports an idea to be a victim in the hands of evil people, unless you are a martyr for the faith.
That is only your interpretation of what martial art is. It is of course preferrable to defeat somebody who tries to attack you without killing or hurting him. But will it be easy if he has a sword? The real practitioners of the art that the man in the video is trying to imitate probably weren't Christians in the first place; in other words, they must have been burning in hell.
I think the real problem here is that the Yeshuado's association provokes the principal of the original martial art by saying that their martial art was developed with the ultimate religion. "Living by what we believe in and have learned, and growing into perfection, thus building a better world today." I think this part should be altered, so other religions are respected, too. Otherwise, the founder of Yeshuado is a rather ironic person.
I guess there is nothing wrong with your Jesus-Do. But why not just form a Jesus club that practices Japanese martial arts rather than taking the Japanese arts and calling Jesus-do?
I think Jesus-do "the way of Jesus" would be something other than weapons anyway. Jesus-do sounds like a counseling practice or something to counsel others.
It is TSKSR - yeshua is the name of yeshua ibn yuesf (jesus) { in greek} lol it looks like he studied the hand movements well but is lacking in sabaki, keep training hard bravo!
How was ANY martial art born out of any religion? Maybe that is a better question.
Look at the original purpose of any spiritual path - pick any religion or martial way. When you find their origins and study their purpose, hopefully you will find that the way of the Great Spirit (whatever you may call him/her/it) and the martial way are originally not two different paths.
May our spirit and physical martial techniques be unified for peace.
Japanese Martial Arts came by way of China from India. The Buddhists taught the Chinese Martial Arts because they felt they were did not have the discipline to meditate.
That is why Buddha statues show hand positions of the Siu lim Tao. These religious types were not wishy washy, they were stoic and fierce martial artists. The Christian monastic tradition shares this trait. I am surprised you didn't know that.
interestingly the popular belief that martial arts came to china through bddhist monks from india is in fact utterly wrong, martial systems had long been set in place in china centuries before buddhism, the incorperation of martial systems into shaolin was through retiring war generals seeking refuge in shaolin who then assisted monks from bandits along trading paths. Damo did not introduce martial arts to shaolin as many are still taught
Jesus do? I'm sorry but this is too doggone funny. The first Iai kata is ripped off from Katori Shinto ryu and performed badly....And after that it just gets worse. And what is with "Christian Martial Artists". Can't find a western martial art you like so lets co-opt a Japanese one and tack on Jeeeesus.
Our sensei and we try our best, that's what counts. And we do not sorry that our performance doesn't meet your expectation. Go to those who merit your standard. Critics is easy, but honestly expressing himself and not been polluted by ego is pretty hard. Can you try this one?
Most students practiced Budo before become Christian so they brought this experience into Yeshua-Do, as our sensei did. In the past were also respected Christian samurai, so there's no contradiction to practice Budo in a Christian way.
I've trained in Japan in Judo & Kendo for almost 40 years. I've been a budo researcher for much of that time. There were Christian samurai but given the syncretic nature of the Japanese, their version of Christianity and yours are VERY different. You wouldn't recoognize a Christian samurai as Christian in the western sense. Do your homework.
@judoschmudo Why not the Japanese borrowed from other cultures, for Pete's sake they invaded Okinawa stole Karate, and kept the whole country! Look who's talking.
Though, I really do like Jim Bowie knife fighting, which still survives (barely), and tomahawk fighting.
Where is your Criticism of boxing when it adopted Phillipino tactics with Ali's association with Elorde' (the flash)? Prior to that, it might as well have been a different sport altogether. Never the same, since, though.
@whitt088 For the same reason Sun Tzu stated in "The Art of War" that persons of conscience should consider the matter of martial strategy... so that they may be governed by some constraint of conscience and not base passions alone.
Sensei V.Jordan started practice Japanese Budo since 1975; Christian Martial Arts project/idea started in 1993 after his conversion to Jesus Christ, however official name "Yeshua-Do" was announced in Apr.2001 in Iowa, USA.
These kata look a lot like energetic replicas of the aikido katas systemized by Morihiro Saito, who learned them from Ueshiba Morihei, who cobbled them together from an eclectic variety of koryu arts.
Great video Sensei.
Psalm 144:
1Blessed be the LORD, my rock, who trains my hands for war, and my fingers for battle;
2he is my steadfast love and my fortress, my stronghold and my deliverer,
my shield and he in whom I take refuge, who subdues peoples[a] under me.
~Takahashi; Canadian Representative, Yeshua-Do International
TAKAHASHIGRAY 2 months ago
Very good stuff Sensei. OSSU
Reformer64 2 months ago
Hey my katas arent nearly as good as this but would love for some people to come and tell me how i can improve them :D
Weaponryy 3 months ago
Wow. Many men died in order to obtain these techniques. To ascribe Christianity to their memory is so utterly disrespectful to them it makes me want to cry blood.
badhorsy2003 8 months ago
@badhorsy2003 Well, as one of the descendants of those whom "died in order to obtain these techniques", and knowing also that they were also Japanese Christians, I find your comment utterly disrespectful. My relatives served as Samurai retainers under the Otomo Clan, one clan of many who were either Christian, or Christian supporters.
~Takahashi Sui
TAKAHASHIGRAY 2 months ago
LOL...really? Christian Martial arts? Jesus is a Warrior King but to be a Warrior of God you don't really even need to know martial arts :)
TheEternalMercy 8 months ago
@TheEternalMercy true; but there's also nothing wrong or sinful if you know it.
yeshuado 8 months ago
@yeshuado Heheh I know about that. :)
TheEternalMercy 8 months ago
lOL MUSIC
tuna9351 10 months ago
You guys. Geez, I would not have thought these videos could stir up so much criticism. Just for the record, I'm one of the sensai's students in the Yukon, so is my son, and I don't have a religious bone in my body. Sensai is not preachy, but his spirituality is obviously important to him, and he's a fine man so whatever he's doing back off. I never comment on videos, period, but this just all seems ridiculous. I've heard him say the word god, maybe twice in the last year. It's good stuff.
chrisvainio 1 year ago 2
To those giving him a hard time with mixing Christianity and Martial Arts.. Relax, he isn't hurting any of you. An using his faith with Martial Arts is necessary for him and myself. He isn't "stealing" anything. He is simply making his own system. There is no crime for that. Sigun Bruce, Ed Parker and Insanto believe a art must grow or it will die. Peace...
kevman4christ 1 year ago
@kevman4christ - So well stated, Kevman4Christ.
ACLTony 1 year ago
Looks like normal Jo Staff short and long forms to me...
TheMintusmaximus 1 year ago
THis is the Take your poor family out of my church kata.
chiqagolil 1 year ago
Wow after 32 years of training still the same old crap Yeshua Do (Jesus way) please "thou shall not steal" come on man training and budo are one thing living a Christian life is another- What martial science did Jesus study or teach- what martial science did John the baptist study or teach- yeah maybe you are confusing the tenets of the crazy man with the torn in his flesh Paul to what being a Christian or follower of Christ is. Aikido wa budo de aru- /cut the crap be a Christian not a thief
gcastil 1 year ago 5
@gcastil What you really mean is be good, do what we're told, and disarm ourselves, for your convenience. Let me think about this a second ... long enough, uh, no.
If you wanted us to disarm, try not leading with hatred and disrespect, lull us into a false sense of trust, AND THEN suggest we disarm!
Just for the record are you supposing to be an expert in religion, or martial history?
By your logic, just say, oh, you're not Japanese so no karate for you! Just as senseless!
KnightlySirJames1 1 year ago
Well done! I can't see any reason why someone shouldn't associate Christianity and their martial arts and vice versa.
rufflesal 1 year ago
I always found it interesting how when Christians want to justify war/violence they quote the Old Testament, and when they advocate peace/non-violence they quote the New Testament...
Hobbes306 1 year ago 2
@Hobbes306 I always thought that the Bible was one continuous/progressive work? That would mean that the God of the Old Testament is the same as the God in the New?
TAKAHASHIGRAY 2 months ago
EXCELLENT VIDEO!
ninjaheart 1 year ago
I am not an expert by any means. I see that it looks good to me. I like the idea of integrating my religion into something else that I am fond of. I am VERY much interested in this. I hope to learn about this.
remyshepherd 1 year ago
Weapons in Aikido is a training exercise for posture and movement for your tachiwaza, it is not for being able to use the weapon for fighting, other schools teach this.
bulldogstaffy 2 years ago
As for arrogance, Aikido was developed after duels were made illegal. It has never been put to the test like Kenjutsu/Jodo and so doesn't have any evidence to back up the claims of having good weapon techniques. It's original weapon take away techniques are also questionable for this reason.
Don't talk to me about arrogance when unproven crap calls itself a martial art.
ihaterobbie123 2 years ago
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13samurai2 2 years ago
ihaterobbie123 - if you do not see your arrogance yet, your martial art or the training you are in is not much worthy. Train better.
13samurai2 2 years ago
@13samurai2
Is merited arrogance really arrogance? I keep myself humble and know my place in my own dojo, but you're the one demanding respect for Aikido. What business do you have to command my respect?
I know you have a problem with english (or you were tired) so I'll make this simple. I give respect where respect is due, not where it is asked of me.
ihaterobbie123 2 years ago
@ihaterobbie123 I was confised by your comments until I saw that you don't believe in God. You only bad-mouth Aikido because it's birth was from a deeply religious man.
If you don't "believe" in something than Don't!
We who DO have no interest in what you have to say!
So shut up!
aibuwarrior 2 years ago
This is what happens when you give a legitimate martial art like shinto muso-ryu to americans...the movements are flashy, the poses are "cool". But the strikes are half assed, the stance is weak, the techniques are rubbish.
I don't think people realise that after you hit someone your weapon stops...it doesn't knock them 10 feet back like in the movies. And if it misses, with the weight distribution shown here, you're wide open and asking for it.
1:34...what are you swinging? a baseball bat?
ihaterobbie123 2 years ago
arrogance can blind.
he is not doing shinto muso-ryu but rather aiki-jo-do. the strike u criticized 1:34 is called toma-katate-uchi; but you didnt learn it yet. practicing on sand as u see its not easy and movements-balance can be slow down and weaken.
maybe you will show your performance so pp can judge you better, thx.
13samurai2 2 years ago
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ihaterobbie123 2 years ago
Since when is Yukon Canada considered America? Try reading the vid first before going off on your "I hate Americans" bs. IMO, this guy had great form. Not sure why you think hating those more skilled then yourself will win you respect.
mattbrun 2 years ago
@mattbrun
Fine, I'll rephrase that, CHRISTIANS. It's all the same McDojo bull anyway.
"great form" Aikido is the only martial art ridiculed in Japan by other arts due to it's lack of proper form. Proper budo forums have trolling Aikidoka because everyone else thinks they're rediculous.
WIKI as many martial arts as you like, Aikido is unique in that it has a criticisms section.
ihaterobbie123 2 years ago
Castlevania music ^.^ Beautiful place to train btw.
sanshin9 2 years ago
im sure that its just a group. that teaches and practices martial arts together that share a religon. nothing more.
foxfire122 2 years ago
maybe it's a martial art designed to turn the other cheek faster?
to be fair (although i do loathe to be so) it's a christian martial arts association. still, jesus wouldn't do it. :)
stupidnamenoonecares 2 years ago
Christian Martial Arts???
What on earth could this be about???
What about any of this distinguishes it as "Christian" as opposed to anything else?
Even in Japan the martial arts are not "religious" activities. They are athletic activities with some philosophical and religious overtones.
The Bible is an enormous and one of the best epic adventures, so I'm not knocking it, but this "Jesus-Way" martial art comes across as highly oddball, unless it was the art of the Christian bushi clans, 17th C.
kozushi 2 years ago 2
For a religion based on humility and "turning the other cheek" this is pretty laughable. Why not just call it what it is? Weird.
MrANGER420 2 years ago
Is "Christian Martial Arts" a poor choice of words to refer to the "westernized" martial arts, or is it literal? Because that would make my day and the following days of the week.
I mean, how do you chop people with your katana in a christian way? How is it different to, say, muslim martial arts?
You get different powers depending on which god you follow like in D&D?
Titantr0n 2 years ago
Hello, I can speak only rather kata 31 which Musubi jo kata is called at you. As I have seen attempt to copy these movements, but a number of technical omissions, such as at first sight rushes: absence of concentration, too wide movements, which most part have nothing no sense, they simply superfluous. jo should be always connected with the centre. For increase of level of possession of Musubi jo kata, I recommend to pay attention on iwama aikido jo kata 31, Saito Hitohiro
inaiki 2 years ago
Attempt to copy? U r always learning MA by copying master, isnt it?
This moves r much more of Nishio, Yamaguchi and Endo senseis styles emphasizing importance of fluidity and wide circles. Saitos aikido is pretty much conservative, stiffed and rigid and does not have those moves, so its easy for u to criticize something u never had a chance to learn or understand. But its good if u just stick to Iwama style i think.
13samurai2 2 years ago
May be You right. Everyone has own way.
inaiki 2 years ago
Funny copy of Iwama aikido jo-kata 31.
inaiki 2 years ago
whats so funny inaiki? is it anything wrong? or you just do not know this?
13samurai2 2 years ago
i think it is japanese martial art and it spreads all over world from japan to africa so it is absurd to think martial arts with some religions...
olsem 2 years ago
Awesome. I am Jewish and I am not offended. Where are you guys located? I Practice Karate and Nito-Ryu.
Karateforlife777 2 years ago
Yeshua-do did you know that Aikido is mostly Zen so you need to stick your Christian Polluting Nose's Where it does not Belong
CydDinga 2 years ago
Christian Martial what BS !!
freaking Christian need to stick there Nose's into everything and Pollute it
CydDinga 2 years ago
Cont. - Whats your opinion about OT warriors such as: Samson, David, Gideon, Joshua, Moses, Abraham, and many others; are they bad guys and sinners? So, does your religious denomination condemn the practice of martial arts? Do you condemn also this man as a sinner?
Thx for posting your answer.
Daimyo12 2 years ago
I have a question to religious guys - leofrankfurter, garouHH, talmidshelyeshua, and few others who left comment to these video-clips: Is it sin to practice martial arts?
Bible says very clearly that everything is permissive/allowed except sin, (sin is a main problem, isnt it?). And as I understand the Word there is a lot of liberty for Christians to express their talents and gifts.
Daimyo12 2 years ago
Considering I am not a Christian, I have no problem with practicing martial arts, they are well-aligned with my world view. But I was educated in Christianity, confirmed even, so I suffered quite heavy cognitive dissonance when I came upon this video. Also, to put it bluntly, OT doesn't count anymore, as Jesus brought a new covenant with God, establishing "new" rules based on a radical new interpretation of the old laws. Those you named didn't sin in their time, but later would have.
garouHH 2 years ago
garouHH are you sure you were educated in Christianity? How you can say that OT doesnt count anymore; read at least Matt.5-7. God didnt change his laws, He upholds it, but the way to fulfill it is different, isnt it?
Those you named didn't sin in their time, but later would have. And what you mean by that? What about army and national-defense, police, security guards, etc; are all those guys sinners because their job is to keep order and protect the nation?
Daimyo12 2 years ago
It may not have been your favorite flavor of Christianity, but yes, I am sure of my education. Especially concerning Matthew 5,39-40, which I'd like you to ponder with respect to the work of police and military and the possibility that you have been justifying means with ends. Also, you paraphrased John the Baptist. Can you find a Jesus quote to similar effect?
And yes, the basis for the rules may be same, but the new covenants interpretation and rules thus following *are* radically different.
garouHH 2 years ago
Luke 22:35-38...a legitimate perogative toward self defense (up to and including lethal force)...which is in keeping with Psalm 88:10-12, and God given glory for that reasonable response to unreasonable violence in Psalm 144:1...
Additionally to mirror Sun Tzu...War is
inauspicious and is only considered because is is the place of life and death, so it is wise that it should be pondered upon soberly ...I would add "and by people of good moral character who hate violence as a *way of life.*
KnightlySirJames1 2 years ago
cont. - What about father protecting his family from assault or his wife from raping; he too will be accounted by you as a sinner? NT never abolished the necessity of order; read Romans. John the Baptist never ordered soldiers to abandon their profession, but to be content with pay; isnt NT? And theres much more in NT. Use your mind and logic too.
Daimyo12 2 years ago
Old Testament definitely counts, but is not perhaps the best place to justify our liberty to defend...well...liberty, and life...the "radical new interpretation" argument presupposes that God didn't know his laws would go "out of date" but there are differences in application predicated upon whether you were a child of Abraham or not.../ or by contrast a grafted in gentile...however this forum and it limitations make exposition of that truth problematic.
KnightlySirJames1 2 years ago
I allways rate videos about budo that play like a music video 1 star. It is Budo it is not dance. 10,000 Budoka died for the skills pased down to us.
leofrankfurter 2 years ago
Alot of the christians I know are allways saying what would Jesus do. Alot of the post I see here remind me that they do not ask that so they can do it. They want to say Jesus would do it this way so they can tell you to do it.
leofrankfurter 2 years ago
I have to agree with the naysayers; budo and Christianity don't mix well. Martial arts are, when you cut through the PR that's spouted to make them palatable to western sensitivities, weapons. The bible is quite explicit in that regard: "Live by the sword, die by the sword." The peace that martial arts bring to the budoka is that of violence channeled wisely, not of violence extinguished. There is nothing christian about knowing how to fight well.
garouHH 2 years ago
There is nothing non-Christian about being skilled, either...and the wise channeling of skills for the defense of hearth and home is definitely Christian...
brawling, or wanton violence never...
so you need to rightly divide the word (as Paul admonished Timothy)...Jesus told the apostles to have a sword, but among 12 men, two swords was "enough"...
underscoring the defensive, nature of that edict...rather than an endorsement to war. (Luke 22:35-38)
KnightlySirJames1 2 years ago
You're a tool. Didn't Peter grab a sword when Jesus
was arrested. I guess you don't remember how that
one ended. The problem with Christians isn't what's
in the Bible, it's that you guys have taken it and tried
to twist it into your own perverted view of life. If you
want to believe in Jesus that's fine but don't try to
pretend that Jesus and the martial arts are in any
way linked.
mouxou97 2 years ago
אתה לא יכול לעשות את זה לשם ישוע. הנוצרים הם מניאקים...
leave the name of Yeshua alone
talmidshelyeshua 2 years ago 2
Shalom,
If you are in HIM, you can't do that. I think you should understand that.
blessing & peace :)
yeshuado 2 years ago 2
@yeshuado Yet Jesus commanded his disciples in Luke 22:36 to "buy a sword" but among twelve men when two swords were presented Jesus said, "It is enough" is vs. 38 of the same chapter ... obviously inadequate for a warfare of the flesh, it was, however, enough for two to keep watch while ten slept ... therefore ... self defense and personal protection.
KnightlySirJames1 1 year ago
agreed talmidshelyeshua, leave yeshua alone; go to SATAN!
aikibudo666 2 years ago
@talmidshelyeshua "take the name of Jesus with you" the song says ... on what basis should I leave it alone?
KnightlySirJames1 1 year ago
@talmidshelyeshua למה לא להגיד את זה פחדן אנגלית?
Reformer64 2 months ago
Jesus-do? yeah, doesn't quite work.
this is Japanese martial arts, not Jesus-do.
the way of Jesus would not involve weapons at all (well, if you read what he taught anyway)
And if you are trying to replace some fo the cultural trappings of Japanese martial arts with western, christian cultural trappings, then why the Japanese outfit?
Great forms and all, but it has nothing to do with Jesus, sorry.
eteune 2 years ago
What does learning how to hurt/kill people have to do with Jesus?
It takes a high tolerance to cognitive dissonance to reconcile a "turn the other cheek" belief system with a system for killing.
BullshidoPhrost 2 years ago
I think you missed the point. Martial arts are not for killing or hurting people at all; its sole purpose is for self-defense and cultivation of precision and self-discipline.
And also the bible never supports an idea to be a victim in the hands of evil people, unless you are a martyr for the faith.
shibumiken 2 years ago
That is only your interpretation of what martial art is. It is of course preferrable to defeat somebody who tries to attack you without killing or hurting him. But will it be easy if he has a sword? The real practitioners of the art that the man in the video is trying to imitate probably weren't Christians in the first place; in other words, they must have been burning in hell.
nukitsuke88 2 years ago
I think the real problem here is that the Yeshuado's association provokes the principal of the original martial art by saying that their martial art was developed with the ultimate religion. "Living by what we believe in and have learned, and growing into perfection, thus building a better world today." I think this part should be altered, so other religions are respected, too. Otherwise, the founder of Yeshuado is a rather ironic person.
nightafterpen2009 2 years ago
No, just a better understanding of the context of scriptural reference, which clearly you are outside of.
Perhaps you prefer Christians and Christianity to disappear for your good pleasure...No, such luck!!!
KnightlySirJames1 2 years ago
I guess there is nothing wrong with your Jesus-Do. But why not just form a Jesus club that practices Japanese martial arts rather than taking the Japanese arts and calling Jesus-do?
I think Jesus-do "the way of Jesus" would be something other than weapons anyway. Jesus-do sounds like a counseling practice or something to counsel others.
Thanks
Naisho07 2 years ago
yes, a Jesus club that practices Asian martial arts without the Shinto, Taoist or Buddhist association
But Jesus-do makes absolutely no sense when you are practicing Asian martial arts
eteune 2 years ago
"Jesus-do makes absolutely no sense".
that's what you think eteune? You are wrong; and not trying to offend you friend, your comment makes 'absolutely no-sense'.
if you are religious - read the Bible; if you are not, at least use your brain. I hope that will help to get some idea.
shibumiken 2 years ago
Yeshuado? That sort of looked like a Tenshin Shoden Katori Shinto Ryu kata in the beginning there.
It actually looked identical to a TSKSR kata, save for one or twon hand flairs.
ItsNotABaton 2 years ago
It is TSKSR - yeshua is the name of yeshua ibn yuesf (jesus) { in greek} lol it looks like he studied the hand movements well but is lacking in sabaki, keep training hard bravo!
7NEMISIS 2 years ago
Thats way too gimmickry. Also, why does a Christian warrior dress up like a Samurai? Doesn´t he know they are Shinto?
Derukugi2 2 years ago
not all samurai well shinto ever heard of the Chambara rebellion? all let him alone, with so many people studying now who cares
7NEMISIS 2 years ago
You mean the Shimbara Rebellion?
"The Shimabara Rebellion was an uprising largely involving Japanese peasants, most of them Christians, in 16371638 during the Edo period."
Naisho07 2 years ago
Yes, Jesus is! God bless Vitold Jordan sensei!
vitalislaci 2 years ago
NO, NO, NO, damn you.
Praise to 666 !
aikibudo666 2 years ago
Yes HI IS! God bless Vitold Jordan!
vitalislaci 2 years ago
JESUS CHRIST IS LORD.
JUJUTSUBILL 2 years ago
How is it that it takes an Atheist to see the oxymoron or irony in this?
WaiteDavid137 3 years ago
Fantastic scenery. I'd love to see those clouds in a time lapse.
Sweet moves too. God bless,
-Beau
beauch 3 years ago
WTF does Christianity have to do with martial arts?
Nothing.
Is there nothing that the Christians don't insist on tainting with their religious nonsense?
Jeremyguru 3 years ago
Jeremyguru you seem to be very angry and vulgar. Your hate is a sign you have nothing to do with martial arts or any spirituality at all.
Daimyo12 3 years ago
Why is ANY religion incorporated in martial arts?
OR
How was ANY martial art born out of any religion? Maybe that is a better question.
Look at the original purpose of any spiritual path - pick any religion or martial way. When you find their origins and study their purpose, hopefully you will find that the way of the Great Spirit (whatever you may call him/her/it) and the martial way are originally not two different paths.
May our spirit and physical martial techniques be unified for peace.
Aikijutsu101 3 years ago
Japanese Martial Arts came by way of China from India. The Buddhists taught the Chinese Martial Arts because they felt they were did not have the discipline to meditate.
That is why Buddha statues show hand positions of the Siu lim Tao. These religious types were not wishy washy, they were stoic and fierce martial artists. The Christian monastic tradition shares this trait. I am surprised you didn't know that.
superesonator 3 years ago
interestingly the popular belief that martial arts came to china through bddhist monks from india is in fact utterly wrong, martial systems had long been set in place in china centuries before buddhism, the incorperation of martial systems into shaolin was through retiring war generals seeking refuge in shaolin who then assisted monks from bandits along trading paths. Damo did not introduce martial arts to shaolin as many are still taught
ibuchanan82 3 years ago
Praise the Lord! Keep pushing forward!
Kaljabi6 3 years ago
Jesus do? I'm sorry but this is too doggone funny. The first Iai kata is ripped off from Katori Shinto ryu and performed badly....And after that it just gets worse. And what is with "Christian Martial Artists". Can't find a western martial art you like so lets co-opt a Japanese one and tack on Jeeeesus.
judoschmudo 3 years ago 8
Why not? I'm a christian and I like MA. If you don't like it, don't join.
(I'm in no way associated with Yeshuado as I live on another continent.)
Laqez 3 years ago
Our sensei and we try our best, that's what counts. And we do not sorry that our performance doesn't meet your expectation. Go to those who merit your standard. Critics is easy, but honestly expressing himself and not been polluted by ego is pretty hard. Can you try this one?
yeshuado 3 years ago
Most students practiced Budo before become Christian so they brought this experience into Yeshua-Do, as our sensei did. In the past were also respected Christian samurai, so there's no contradiction to practice Budo in a Christian way.
yeshuado 3 years ago
I've trained in Japan in Judo & Kendo for almost 40 years. I've been a budo researcher for much of that time. There were Christian samurai but given the syncretic nature of the Japanese, their version of Christianity and yours are VERY different. You wouldn't recoognize a Christian samurai as Christian in the western sense. Do your homework.
judoschmudo 3 years ago 2
Thank you, as usual... "very polite".
Christian faith is only one and in ONE. However, the expression of Budo has no limits.
yeshuado 3 years ago
Very well put.
ryu8888 3 years ago
The most important is people who love Budo and try to do something.
Who are you to judge the work of other persons?
I'm nothing related with this school nor this style, but I celebrate the idea of expand the MMAA in the world.
czumelzu 3 years ago
@judoschmudo Why not the Japanese borrowed from other cultures, for Pete's sake they invaded Okinawa stole Karate, and kept the whole country! Look who's talking.
Though, I really do like Jim Bowie knife fighting, which still survives (barely), and tomahawk fighting.
Where is your Criticism of boxing when it adopted Phillipino tactics with Ali's association with Elorde' (the flash)? Prior to that, it might as well have been a different sport altogether. Never the same, since, though.
KnightlySirJames1 1 year ago
@judoschmudo Actually some Samurai were Christian or had Christian sympathies, like Date Masamune. Do educate yourself, your prejudice is showing.
KnightlySirJames1 1 year ago
@KnightlySirJames1 Yes, some were. My Mother's great Grandfather was one such as that, as am I. Thank you for that :)
~Takahashi
TAKAHASHIGRAY 2 months ago
@TAKAHASHIGRAY I would love to hear all about your ancestor, and his faith, at your leisure.
KnightlySirJames1 2 months ago
Why is Christianity incorporated into martial arts?
whitt088 3 years ago
@whitt088 For the same reason Sun Tzu stated in "The Art of War" that persons of conscience should consider the matter of martial strategy... so that they may be governed by some constraint of conscience and not base passions alone.
KnightlySirJames1 2 months ago
Sensei V.Jordan started practice Japanese Budo since 1975; Christian Martial Arts project/idea started in 1993 after his conversion to Jesus Christ, however official name "Yeshua-Do" was announced in Apr.2001 in Iowa, USA.
yeshuado 3 years ago
do you know the name of the song of this super great video?
krugerkwiatkowsk 4 years ago
These kata look a lot like energetic replicas of the aikido katas systemized by Morihiro Saito, who learned them from Ueshiba Morihei, who cobbled them together from an eclectic variety of koryu arts.
OneAngryAsian 4 years ago
i agree
Kenshincz 3 years ago
You do realize that christians were prosecuted in the far east right about the time this type of TMA was really powerful in their society.
tapthepope 4 years ago
the opening sword kata looked alot like tenshin shoden katori shinto ryu
djresonance 4 years ago
wtf he is using a jo alot like a katana
sirclaridge 4 years ago
The jo can be use like a katana, a spear or a baseball bate...what is the prob?
Mageta54 4 years ago
yes, because he can brake the head, neck or shoulder in such a way
Polonium36 4 years ago
Shows what you know about the Jo. It is designed to neutralize a sword and as such can be used similarly in striking.
Jujutsuka4LIfe 4 years ago
Krav Panim
kapap
Hisardut,
ISRAEL MARTIAL ARTS
amsiermann 4 years ago
Abir Warriors is a recent one.
Mastkooler 4 years ago
You guys are great. The scenery is awsome. The outspoken way in which you name the name of Jesus is inspiring. OSU!!! and AMEN!!!
embakahir 4 years ago