Fight Christian Missionaries! The Jewish Tract!

[htowndubcity]

would rather be musilem but untill that day LDS every day

[brazilian777able]

You mean the Talmud?

[tainorebelde1]

Why arent you straightforward with your followers an tell them that YOU'RE a follower of a JEWISH SECT and not a real Jew?? Hypocrite.

[MarcoBocoure]

pointless video

[talkthetruth100]

never ever body...sorry i found the truth in Islam!!

[tattat44]

I'm tired of religious people in general.

If organized religion dissipated tomorrow, I wouldn't shed a tear. In fact, I would celebrate.

Fuck you guys and your high horses. Fuck your holier-than-though attitude, fuck your weird rituals, fuck your twisted morals, and most of all, fuck your influence on my government.

I'm no racist, I hate you all equally, from the big-nosed bankers to the turban rats to the pompous, cross carrying, nosy trailer trash. You're all equally hideous in my sight.

[knightsofstjoan2004]

(continued) because of the atoning work of Yeshua HaMashiach, Israel's Chief Rabbi, who has fulfilled them as Jewish Believers and fulfilled Judaism itself. By the way Rabbi Yitzhak Kaduri confirmed that Yeshua is the Jewish Messiah, the Messiah appeared to him in a vision and his vision is from God as foretold in Joel 2:28 (KJV).

[knightsofstjoan2004]

Jews for Jesus are a Messianic Jewish organization, they are neither Catholics nor Protestants nor Orthodox Christians. Christian missionaries are either Catholic or Protestant or Orthodox Christian, therefore Jews for Jesus are not Christian missionaries. The faith of the Messianic Jews is Biblical Judaism and is centered on the Messiah and the salvation He brings, and they don't have to go through the Sages or the rabbis to know God, they have access to God

[XTexasRockX]

LOL if it wasn for christians jews would be dead by now an i tell you one thing there would be no Isreal.

[brazilian777able]

@XTexasRockX If wasn't for the Jew the christians would not exist FOR SALVATION COMES FROM THE JEW!!

Read your Bible. Jesus is a Greek name to the JEW Yeshua!! which means "salvation" The root of Christianity is Judaism. Christians without Jews are out of target and Jews without Yeshua are without power. Christians must obey Torah and Jews accept Yeshua = the two sticks become ONE then the power of G-d will manifest all over the world.The lost tribes = the army of dry bones who will rise.

[AbuAvital]

@brazilian777able Xianity comes from a misguided view of Judaism, abandon this false "religion", follow the Noachide laws and all will be well

[brazilian777able]

@AbuAvital I follow the Torah, and only the Torah.  I am sorry Rashi, Rambam and etc. very nicet and insightful but not above Torah.

[AbuAvital]

@brazilian777able Do you include the oral Torah?

[brazilian777able]

@AbuAvital you mean the Talmud?

[AbuAvital]

@brazilian777able amongst other writtings

[brazilian777able]

@AbuAvital :)

[AbuAvital]

@brazilian777able ?

[brazilian777able]

@AbuAvital *-* kosher here.

[brazilian777able]

@XTexasRockX Always will be ISRAEL. The land belong to Elohim HIMSELF. When they divide then all will see HIS power and greatly quake with fear.

[lacatuscovalschi]

Hay jewish rabbi did not the prophet daniel say the anointed one would come 483 YEARS after the decree would be given to rebuild the jewish temple. we know from history and the bible that xerxes king of MEDIA persia gave that decree in 457 bc , so rabBI add 483 years to 457 bc and you will come to the year 26 ad isnt that the same time JESUS CHRIST WALKED AND PREACHED. one mORE thing rabbi didnt daniel say after 3 years  the anointed won would be killed and isnt that what happend to JC

[melbourneopera]

Wow, it is very interesting that Jewish can get into play.......Hmm, I am really like their enthusiastic passion, especially in the positive way.....

[luvamoose123]

ROFLMAO

[IWannabeJew]

Nice work, as long as people don't get obnoxious with them.

: )

[pixelshade]

Though these evangalical nutters are the biggest supporters of Israel.

[Muzicboxtecnotunez]

Noah, a man who built the ark before he ordered the flood. noah was a prophet of his time.

[paulgem123]

I will ask you the same question I asked TheRebShlomo. Let's say you are right, and 1,000 went to a synogouge and wanted to convert. You are I both know your system if religion will turn most away because that's what it does. This is not of YHWH where it needs a man to to judge then worthy. Only YHWH sees the heart.

[moronthannot]

You're right. There are a lot of Rabbis who turn people away three times...but that is not what the Rambam teaches about those who wish to convert. Rabbis are supposed to test sincerity, by stressing that you don't have to keep all 613 commandments, it will be hard being a Jew because of anti-semitism, and simple things like that. But NOT to discourage. They are supposed to cherish this person, and do what it takes to properly inform, but encourage them to stay on the path they have set upon.

[moronthannot]

The fact that people are turned away and that some Rabbis are trying to discontinue conversions for an undetermined amount of time is not Judaism, but a recent movement of isolation SOME Jews have been taking. Them being turned away does not discredit the true teaching of Judaism, which you seem to think is "from man" and all that other garbage...

[paulgem123]

The "True teaching of Judaism" as you put it has been poluted with "traditions of men" on both sides. Rabbinic Judaism and Christianity (all forms) both have voided "True Communication" with HaShem YHWH. May the "House of Yisrael" be restored to it's true form. Ezekiel 37:15-28 & Jeremiah 6:16-19

[moronthannot]

Boy, do I looooove blanket statements. They speak so well to point out the delicacies and details of truth............riiight......­......

[paulgem123]

I see your point.....I should say "most".

[paulgem123]

But wait a minute doesn't. Isn't that exactly what this video did?

[moronthannot]

Sure. I never said I agree with every statement this video says. I agree that people should be prepared to answer for their faith, beliefs, and KNOWLEDGE of G-d. I never said the Rabbi Asher Meza is 100% flawless. He does have a good point, but even better, he is getting the TRUE message of Torah out there and informing those who WISH to take a stand, to do so. He never says ALL christians are retarded, nor does he say that ALL Jews are right. He says we need to spread Torah. Period.

[paulgem123]

With respect...The True Message is that both of you and judge what you don't know. You judge with half truths and old baggage that you got from your time as Christians. I tell you if you have not found a candidate for Mashiyach then you don't understand Torah. You both have been blinded again from traditions of men. The Christians have Mashiyach but only as a form of what they made up in their Imagination. Not the Jewish Mashiyach Y'shua. Shalom.

[moronthannot]

The fact that you think there is a candidate for Moshiach shows YOU don't understand Torah AND scripture. The Bible tells us that it will be a long time without a King, Temple, or sacrifice. So, we are not surprised in the slightest that there is still no candidate. Your supposed candidate told his apostles he would come back before they could go thru all the cities in Israel, and, in fact, before some of them even died. YOU have the dilema, my friend, not us.

[paulgem123]

Old baggage. In my latest video, the video I encouraged people to look at actually agrees with what some Jews say. he differnece between you and I is I listen to people outside of my circle. I consider what the Jews say very carefully.  You close your mind to ANYTHING that condradicts whatever Rabbi's you choose to listen to. If it is not Orthodoxy you don't listen. Even though Orthodoxy has partial truths. There is much more to Torah than you know and It points to Y'shua as Mashiyach.

[ZviJ1]

@paulgem123 Hogwash.

And don't you presume to speak for the Jews.

I'm a Scripturalist Jew (not Orthodox) and though my counterparts total no more than 50,000, we detest and despise your propaganda that "Y'shua" is the Mashi'ah. There's no shred of evidence for this in the Tanakh (Jewish Bible).

[paulgem123]

@ZviJ1 Scripturalist ? That's a new one, what is that? Maybe that what I am.

[ZviJ1]

@paulgem123 It's hardly new because you hadn't heard of it.

No intention to offend, you're at most a Scripturalist Messianic Christian.

Don't try to appropriate Scripturalist Judaism to represent your faith. We have enough on our backs from the likes of Michael Rood.

[paulgem123]

@ZviJ1 OK, gotcha. Michael Rood. Spritualist, yeah I understand.....NOT. I have no clue what your talking about. Why don't you PM me and maybe enlighten me.

[paulgem123]

But you close your ears to listen, and your eyes have been blinded by traditions of men. The main thing that you cannot be in your system is have an open mind. Your system says you are a fool to even consider what I say and you cannot openly debate it among your Rabbi's for fear of being outcasted as Y'shua and his disciples were. You know this is true and this is why you won't look into my claims fully but operate on old information. Most Rabbi's have left the law of Moses long ago.

[moronthannot]

"you cannot openly debate it among your Rabbi's for fear of being outcasted as Y'shua and his disciples were."

You assume I even WANT to debate what all the Rabbis are saying. And to be honest, I DO debate a ton of what they say. True. Mainstream Orthodoxy today is a bit skewed. The way that people listen to the "Great Rabbis" of the generation is tearing down the very fabric of what Torah used to be when it was passed down centuries ago by the Great Court.

[moronthannot]

A Rabbi on his own cannot overthrow ANY written commandment in Torah. A Rabbi on his own cannot revise a ruling of the Great Court (whose rulings you know exactly where to find). There is this movement of "Das Torah" where we think that a Gadol Hador can make halakhik decisions that may or may not overthrow previous generation's decisions. That is only true for customs that are not decided upon in the Talmudh. I STRONGLY disagree with the way things are running these days.

[moronthannot]

I don't agree with everything that is set in front of me. I question everything and everyone. Even my own roommate who had studied in Yeshivas for years. I don't agree with every minhag this synagogue does, but that is why I am trying to find the pure path of Torah. That is why we go back and find where we went off track. That is where Rambam comes in. He was the last and only person to recieve the tradition straight from the Geonim. A truly Torah based form of Judaism. So...

[moronthannot]

It's not that I don't debate about Yeshua to my Rabbis about Y'shua, its that I have no need to debate about him. I don't, however, fear to ask questions. This, my friend, is where you falter. You think I just sit idly by while I'm told what to believe. I do nothing of the sort. I follow halakha, which was decided by the court, and anything else, I am allowed to think my own way on. I am COMMANDED to think my own way about it, but NOT halakha. I have no say in that matter, says the Torah.

[moronthannot]

So, technically, I am allowed to think that Y'shua is the messiah...I am not allowed to think he is G-d. I am allowed to think that Isaiah 53 is about him, but what would that accomplish? I am allowed to think for myself and I do. As long as I stick to Torah, which commands me to follow the rulings of this court, something which you don't even consider, I can believe whatever midrash I want as literal, as long as it does not detract from G-d's one-ness. I just choose not to believe in Y'shua.

[moronthannot]

There is too much LOGICAL PROOF to believe otherwise....

[paulgem123]

This is because you let them tell you what you can and cannot believe about YHWH and it is not a question of whether He can manifest Himself but would He. Because He CAN.

[moronthannot]

THEY don't tell me what HaShem can and cannot do. HE tells me and the rest of the world what He WILL AND WILL NOT do. One of them is that He is not a man. Another thing is that He does not change. Yes, G-d CAN do whatever He wants. BUT what He wants to be is consistent. He is limited to keeping His promises. He is limited to perfection. He cannot become imperfect...He cannot change. A body that bleeds and feels pain and goes to the bathroom is not perfect. He can NOT become a man.

[moronthannot]

And if you are saying that He rests His spirit in us (which is only a metaphor) then what made him so special to be considered G-d Himself. Some finite representation of an infinite being is only a representation...not the ACTUAL Creator.

[IWannabeJew]

@paulgem123 LIAR!

Everyone who knows anything about Judaism

knows that it isn't tied up in what you believe,

but in what you do.

YOU ignorant Messianics who don't know

what the word "emunah" in Hab. 2:4 means

are the ones who think that salvation is

dependent upon what a person BELIEVES.

[paulgem123]

@IWannabeJew

Emunah is faithfulness in a Hebrew

understanding is faithfulness. The act of

fidelity toward YHWH's covenant. Your heart is filled with

hate and you don't understand the one you say you serve.

[paulgem123]

I say you need to debate about Him because He is the sole purpose of Torah and you only see what you learned in Christianity. When it comes to Halakha you need to ask why Y'shua rebuked them and why He was rebuked by them because He never went against written Torah. He did however go against some added Halakha.

[moronthannot]

The sole purpose of the Torah was for the people of the world to learn from the descendants of Abraham about the absolutely singular one-ness of the Almighty Creator of Heaven and earth and that there is no reason to worship things that reside on this earth, nor in the heavens, or in the sea (Read in exodus after the giving of the tablets). For the world to worship the Creator. Torah didn't come for us to worship a guy born of a virgin. If so, it would have said so.

[moronthannot]

Actually Y'shua told the christians to follow the pharisees who sit in Moshe's seat. Moshe He passed the judgements of Torah to Yehoshua, who in turn formed the great Court, Sanhedrin. This court is where halakha was derived. It was derived in that court that you are not allowed to gather food on shabbat. This court also said it is mandatory to wash your hands before you eat bread. They have Biblical basis for these halakhot. Jesus didnt heed the rulings of this court, so he broke Torah.

[paulgem123]

@moronthannot

He told the to follow them when they teach Moses this is correct.

when they teach what Moses taught. This court you speak of has not has not been around for 1600 years.

[moronthannot]

@paulgem123 You're correct. This court hasn't been around for a long time. BUT Jews are still responsible to keep the commandment of obeying their rulings. Those rulings, once again, have only ever been found in the Oral Law and the codification of them is in the Mishneh Torah by Rambam. It's that simple. The only way to override ANY ruling of the last court is to have another court of equal or greater value. Until this happens Jews are responsible to keep the latest court's rulings.

[moronthannot]

@paulgem123 Just because there is no court now, doesn't mean that we can just decide to interpret Torah any way we want. We keep their rulings and have to opportunity to keep this commandment by studying Oral Torah. You don't even think that this court's decisions are even authoritative. What do you care if they are around or not? If there was a court here now, established according to Torah, and they decided that you are not supposed to use electricity on Shabbat, would you obey it?

[paulgem123]

@moronthannot

Hey Andrew what's up brother. Hope you are well and have a blessed Pesach.

[paulgem123]

@moronthannot

Hey Andrew what's up brother. Hope you are well and have a blessed Pesach.

[moronthannot]

Torah also tells us that the Kings of Israel and Kohanim are to be anointed with a specific kind of oil. It lists the properties in Exod 30:31-33...when Y'shua was anointed in the NT, he was not anointed according to the way that ALL KOHANIM AND MELAKHIM are to be anointed. So, to consider that Y'shua is either the "New Great High priest" (Hebrews 4:14) and a king of Israel to sit on David's throne (Luke 1:31-33) is a falacy because he did not meet the requirements of Torah in order to be.

[moronthannot]

So, there in both places, he either broke Torah or did not meet the WRITTEN requirements in order to be considered a High Priest or a King over Israel. So, he did not fulfill what the king messiah, son of David is supposed to fulfill before he even sits on the throne, let alone forgive sin (if that is in fact what his mission is....which it is not.)

[IWannabeJew]

@paulgem123 Rather, idolatrously worshiping Y'shua is the sole purpose of ROME, whose daughter you are, whether you realize it or want to admit it. If you're not a daughter of Catholicism, why do you tote Athanasius' canon of the "New Testament". Did Luther the Churchman not "Protest" enough? "That which goes into the mouth does not defile a man." REEEEALLLLLYYYY?

[paulgem123]

I know you do, but you can't do it in the place you study. To bring Y'shua up is not a wise thing to do for you in your school. I know you are open to listen and you have proven one of my only friends of the Orthodox faith although we seem to disagree on a very important key to my understanding "Y'shua". I respect you and Asher because you both go against the grain and eventually you will see what I am talking about. I'm confident of this.

[IWannabeJew]

@paulgem123 Actually, ever since my days

on alt.messianic, it has been my observation that

it is the ignorant Messianics like yourself

who eventually bow the knee to the superior

knowledge of the Tanakh of the Orthodox Jews.

Bringing up Y'shua in a house of Torah study "is

not a wise thing to do" because your false

messiah is FOOLISHNESS, IDOLATRY and

a WASTE OF TIME!

[paulgem123]

Why don't the Jews talk about the restoration of the TWO Houses? It is clearly Scriptural. They have made provision by making the separation of Jew and Gentile with the Noahide laws which is against Torah. Asher admits this.

[moronthannot]

Asher says that Noahide Laws are the bear minimum for G-d's threshold for grace for all humanity. He agrees that all men need to follow them, but if you choose to uplift your soul to a higher level, you must become Jewish.

And Jews talk about the restoration of the two houses ALL the time! When we talk about the return of the exiles of Israel, something which will happen on the advent of the Moshiach, we are speaking of the restoration of the two houses (Judah and the rest of the lost tribes).

[IWannabeJew]

@paulgem123 Actually, what is against Torah is to think that the whole world is going to be doing ALL of the Torah given specifically to Israel. Will the whole world ALSO be living in The Land of Promise? You hypocritical Christians ignore the directives' handed down by James the Brother of "Jesus" in Acts 15, so that you can whore after the lies of Saul/sheol of Tarsus. What do you think Acts 15 is talking about? It's the Noachide Laws!

[IWannabeJew]

@paulgem123 Idiot! The prophets were

talking about the two Houses LONNNNG

before any ignorant Christian/"Messianic" gentile

even thought about the matter!

It's IN the Hebrew Tanakh, which belongs

to the Jewish community, NOT the Christian!

What do you think Yishai Fleisher is talking

about when he promotes Aliyah to Israel?!

[TheMuirite]

I will keep a stack by my door.

[ThornUvDaath777]

Same here! can't wait for the next round of mormons!

[IWannabeJew]

@ThornUvDaath777 You're far more

likely to run into J's Witnesses than Mormons.

And Mormon "Elders" don't use Chick tracts.

Ask the Mormon "Elders" what tribe of Israel

they are of, then go from there.

[straygypsy]

I LOVE IT!!

[kawaiigardiner]

I second that :) Its amazing when a Christian looks through the bible they realise just how badly Christianity misunderstands a jewish text.

[paulgem123]

Jews ha the best evidence that Yahshua is Moshiach, and Christians have Moshiach and have no clue what this means. It's quite sad.

[IWannabeJew]

@paulgem123 You can't even decide how

to transliterate your false messiah's name,

yet you think you've got the right man.

[paulgem123]

@IWannabeJew

How do you translate your Moshiach's name. Oh I forgot you don't know his name. Proverbs 30:4

[IWannabeJew]

@paulgem123 I said "transliterate", not "

"translate". Don't you know the difference?

Spare me your ignorant attempts to

proof-text me!

Are you telling me that "Agur the son of Jakeh"

knew "his son's name" to be Y'shua?

Exodus 4:22; Deu. 1:31

It would appear that YOU are the one who

doesn't know what the name of the Creator's

son is...