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  • I doubt the Uighurs want a fundamentalist state given that they lived in an atheist state for so long.

  • communist kuffar

  • Uighurs killed many Han Chinese.. and they started this whole shit.. with the help of the colonialist US and CIA..

  • Funny that there was a General Electric commercial before the video started.

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  • Terrorism is the tool for power, Power for the players of New World Order. Since US reducing support to terror groups like taliban, China took the opportunity, now whole Pakistan and Muslim terrorist organizations serving for China, But Natives Like Uighurs are far from such concept. They are one of the most peaceful and being called (kafirs, infidels) by fundamental Muslim countries. China systematically continues mass genocide and oppression against Uighurs and Other natives of Those lands

  • That pig bush and his nazi dad don't represent America anymore.

  • Don't worry . Xinjiang & Tibet will have their referendums in 20 years when Han population will be 80% . The fate of these terrorists is same as the native indians of north america.

  • Turkistan was is and always will be free so long as it is under Chinese rule Communism or no communism democracy or no democracy.

  • @mirelli66 But I read what US said is world history.

  • @mirelli66 Don't anything say anything if you don't know the issue. If you don't know, Xinjiang is where the Uighur were placed by a Chinese Emperor after their empire fell as an act of benevolence. Xinjiang has been part of China way before the seperatists settled there.

  • Sad how outsiders think they can decide whether tibet and xinjiang should be freed rather then the people living there.

  • @Hope4freedom76 : the people living there want to be free from occupation, oppression.

  • @Pantekin Thats real funny cause i was born and raised in Xinjiang and the last thing that concerned me were oppression and occupation. Great to see you speaking up for something you dont even know.

  • @Hope4freedom76 :haha, i believe you are the funny person! from your words, i can see you are a chinese who born to a immigrant chinese family. please tell me where is your parents came from? gansu? henan? remember this, you dont have right to say anything about east turkistan. you dont belong there!

  • FREEDOM FOR TIBET AND XINJIANG

    FREEDOM AGAINST OPPRESSION AND FEAR

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  • @mirelli66 freedom for china of westerns who created the 3rd world in america, africa, asia etc.

  • Kazakhs would help uigurs. I have many uygurs freinds and i hate communists especially chinese occupants

  • Ahh i don´t understand chinese.

  • What is this bullshit why aren't there subtitles?

  • Shame there were no subtitles for what the uighurs said. I would liked to have heared that. 

  • Communists versus theocrats...not really much of a "choice."

    Religious fundamentalism is dangerous and should be guarded against, but that doesn't change the fact that the Uighur people have a right to self-determination. the terrorists must be fought.but the Uighur dissident movement,like the dissidents throughout China,deserve the full support of freedom-loving people everywhere.

  • @TheTollundWoman Honestly, there is nothing called islamic fundamentalism in Xinjiang. It is just the Chinese communist party's propaganda to avoid Uighurs to gain international support. Even the so called most dangerous Uighurs in Guantanamo turned out to be innocent. What Chinese are not telling people is, Uighurs in exile got the right direction by fighting in peaceful means to achieve self-determination. So CCP is trying to show Uighurs as terrorist coz we r Muslims.

  • fuck bastrd chinese

  • @engdarsh1

    i FUCK YOU MOM PUSSY,

    chinese

  • @328998194

    fuck you asshole 

  • Chinese problem!!!

  • Yup, no western MEDIA BIAS involved in this "journalistic" "report" whatsover....... NONE......

    For the western "media" when USofA and Britains slaughter "islamists extremists" = war on terror "for freedom".

    For the western "media" when "chinks" slaughter "islamists extremists" = chinks are imperialists dog-eating subhumans.

    

  • if you listen to this "journalist" you can hear that this "journalist" is "seeking" an "objective" report on WHAT THIS "journalist" WANTS TO "REPORT" AS ITS "truth"...... as opposed to REAL "objective"......

    NOTHING the west "reports" about China means shit.

    As far as the west is concerned China = "filthy chinks" while USofA in Iraq = "freedom".....

  • When america shits on islamist = TOTALLY JUSTIFIED and GOOD.

    When China shits on islamist = dirty filthy chink communists that are infringing on the rights of a people wanting "freedom".

  • The word China translates into English as toilet bowl

    The Peoples Republic of Toilet Bowl

  • how come they don't have subtitles or dubs?

  • Respect not bad words or hostility is required in Chinese Turkistan.

  • The western medias normally would not make good comments on China and that is the norm of practice. Still I do think the Uighurs do have their own grievances in their homeland. Their standard of living in south Chinese Turkistan is quite low for the farmers there. The wealth generated in north C.Turkistan do not flow to the normal Uighurs normally to the Hans and Hans own or govt. own chinese corporations. The Chinese govt. has a lot to do to rectify the situation for equality on all citizens.

  • It is true that uyghur live in the western region for quite a while, but it is also true that chian as had a military and adminstrative powers there since the han dynasty.

    there is no real right or wrong

  • I TOTALLY AGREE. The Chinese government definitely, definitely definitely should not let foreign journalists into these areas at all. The best weapon against muslim extremism is quietly squashing all criticism and punishing harshly behind closed doors while putting on a smile on their faces. This is the best weapon against extremism, because extremism requires a free press. China is doing a good job and should keep up the "police state" for as long as it can. Put more chinese in also.

  • this is retarded. uyghurs are in general backward and uneducated people. i lived there for a year. the only reason they have anything now is because china has given them everything and developed their entire province. they riot all the time and kill and loot from the very people that have given them prosperity, then white people write stories about the oppresiveness of the chinese. why do you think chinese ppl dont want foreign press in the region? no matter what they do theyre the villains

  • the question of the day is how you define what the heck is terrorism. lets use 9/11 as an example. from binladden side, he claimed that the event was justified war versus western materialism. however, the american side basically said it is terrorism versus american civilians. the same idea applies in xinjiang argument. the east turkistan group says they are fighting their freedom. however, the chinese says they terrorists trying to cause division

  • 17:41 holy shit that mole is distracting. If he's so rich why can't he chop that thing off.

  • FREE UYGHUR!!

  • Not Gangis Khan but Kublai Khan chose to become a Chinese Emperor and followed the Chinese dynasty system and named his dynasty as "Yuan" - the beginnig of everything.Didn't Marco Polo memtioned the place he visited was China in his travelogue.

    Manchus also regarded themselves to be Chinese when confronting the Western Barbarians and every treaty the Manchus signed with foreign country was represented by them as Zhongkuo (China).

  • fuk yall westerners think wat ever u want bullshit wat ever u want 1 thing i gotta tell yall go mind yall own fucking business

  • china no need excuses from westerner to those criminal gang ughgur and wiil excute those fucker .

  • no subtitles

  • Under Muslim fundamentalists' and extremists' full control actually no other religion would be allowed publicly in their area and judicial system would be Islamic.

  • In theory yes it is best to practice religion without oppression but in reality some kind of control is still in existence even in Western democractic countries. In France it seems Muslim girls should not wear veils going to schools; in America Disneyland a Muslim lady staff is not allowed to wear headset without putting on an extra hat etc.

    In Afganistan, Christian NGO were repelled and murdered by Muslim extremists.

  • Islam would not disappear from China, 800 years ago Mongol Yuan dynasty accepted the color-eyed people from Central and West Asia as citizens of China, these people were Muslims now become Hui ethnic in China. Nearly every major city in China you would find mosques and Hui restaurants.

  • Who wants to be an American?

    At least not me.

    Is American a peer group?

  • My point of view is that certain group of Uighurs wanted to excite and exagerate the confrontation between Hans and Uighurs, once hatred is built up it is hard to return to a harmonious relationship at least for long period of time. People outside China do not want peace in Chinese Turkistan but want to do something big to de-stabilize Chinese Turkistan.

  • @Thak11

    all my chinese friends "hans" told me that Uighurs are NOT chinese , and they told me they are pick-pockets and criminals and so ...

    but then why opress them to obey chinese goverment .

  • @morocojin

    Uighurs are citizens of PRC, Uighurs of course are not equal to Hans. Some Uighur children were kidnapped or sold to be trained as pick-pockets in other Chinese cities by Uighur gangsters. One reason for that is Uighurs are poor another there is a Chinese policy that minority ethnics are not punished severely in criminal cases compared to Hans as a previlege.

    CCP is so weak and has no confidence that they want every Chinese to obey the government politically.

  • @Thak11

    excuse me , but if you don't treat them equally thats mean they are not equal , the Government try to take Islam out of china , and that's the real problem , because that way there must be a confrontation , you know Muslims all around the world no matter what their ethnicity can be we stay loyal to Islam more than anything .

    so the best thing PRC can do is to let them practice religion without any opression , i know it's hard because PRC worships money , but thats the only way out.

  • @morocojin

    During Mao Tze Dong Era, it is about class struggle between the rich and the poor regardless of ethnicities, the Uighurs felt better that time and respected Chairman Mao.

    These days, PRC is going to capitalism economically, the difference in income is big between East and West of China and between Hans and other minorities. The Uighurs feel they are left behind economically. Personally I would like to treat Uighurs as equals but I and other common people have no power on the govt.

  • i know .

  • Groups of Chinese para-military police engaged in control of the demonstrations in the broad streets mainly and it is said that they were not present and were not taken actions for a couple of hours when riot started.

    In the side streets however Hans were slaughtered by young Uighurs with knives and clubs. Most Hans suffered fatal wounds that meant to kill and this video still says it is a repression by the Chinese police , how funny and biased point of view put forth by this video.

  • @Thak11

    excuse me but Chinese people are very closed to their society and race , and you people think that you are the chosen people "just like jews" ...

    i think that Hans try to occupy Xinjiang wich is not a Chinese territory , Uighurs are having difficulty practicing their religion .

    if you think that Uighurs are not Chinese enough , then leave them alone .

  • @morocojin

    Chinese had ruled Chinese Turkistan area 2000 years ago during Han dynasty after driving away the Huns. Articles of Han dynasty are evidenced to be excavated in the area. Han Chinese presence in the area is not unusual in the past.

    Han identity is more of a cultural identity than ethnic identity besides Chinese in a broad sense consists of a lot of different ethnicities.

  • @Thak11 Entire world accepts the Ottoman Empire (existed for 624 years) as the longest empire in the history of this planet. And you are dreaming some thing about rulling this land for 2000 years! Did Chinese ruled Uighurs during Mongol era, Chinese them selves were slaves of Mongols at the time. Remember Beijing was burned by a Uighur general of the Mongol army. You guys still were slaves of Manchu during the Manchu era. Learn history not the CCP propaganda dude.

  • @UighurKnight

    I didn't receive any CCP propaganda, my place here can have any information in the world I want.

    What I meant is that Chinese happened to be there since 2000 years ago, thence they come and go and come again ; no nation in this world be strong forever and boundaries among nations are fluidic subject to change.

  • @UighurKnight ,

    What you say is true but you cannot reverse what has happened since. The Chinese are too strong for you.

  • @UighurKnight

    China is the longest continuous surviving civilization on Earth.

    Despite upheaval, territorial fragmentation, and foreign occupation, China's civilization has stood the test of time because it assimilated foreign invaders like Mongols and Manchurians.

    This is opposed to Aryans from Persia who invaded and wiped out the Indus Valley Civilization, eradicated all culture, heritage, written script, language from Indus Valley.

  • @Phead128 What a joke! Where was the country called China during the Mongol invasion (so-called Yuan Dynasty)? Where was the country called China during the Manchu invasion (so-called Qing dynasty). Tell me a single Chinese dynasty or kingdom which ruled Uighurs or East Turkistan? Did any Chinese rule the region in its 5000 years of history? give me the name of those Chinese "empires". How abt if Chinese it self was already assimilated into one of its 420 ethnic groups today?

  • @UighurKnight

    Dude, Manchu heritage, written script, and spoken language is on the edge of extinction on the face of the Earth. The ratio of Mongols to Chinese was 1:1,200 and there is more Mongols in China than Mongols in Mongolia.

    If the extinction of Manchurian identity, written script, language doesn't speak to assimilation into China (not vice-versa), how else do historians say China is the longest continous civilizations in the world despite foreign invasion,fragmentation?

    Think.

  • @UighurKnight

    Indus Valley Civilization (Ancient India) no longer exist because Aryans and Muslims utterly vanquished and eradicated their civilization, written script, politcal, economic, and social institutions.

    Wasn't Mesopotamia (Iraq) and Ancient Egypt civilizations utter vanquished by Greek and Arab conquest which totaly erased their ancient civilizations from the face of the Earth?

    China's foreign invader never destroyed or vanquished Chinese civilization. They were assimilated. Learn

  • @Phead128 So what are you talking about? I can't understand what you are talking about mate. R u saying Chinese will never be assimilated into other people because they have never been assimilated into others in their whole history? Learn what? You think Chinese assimilated other groups? So the boxer Abdurahman Ablikim represented China in 2000 SYD olympic was banned to use his original name, he was called Wang. Is this ur way to assimilate others? he is still a Uighur mate.

  • @UighurKnight

    Both Yuan and Qing claimed their Dynasty China

  • @UighurKnight

    Both Yuan and Qing claimed their Dynasty China

  • @MrSandauk Look, who said this? Did Cingiz Khan said he was a Chinese? Did the Mongol empire used Chinese? (they used Uighur as their official script). So if they claimed their "Dynasty" was a Chinese thing, then Whole Russia and many Eastern European countries occupied by Mongols should be part of China today. Right? Don't you think claiming this is a junkie statement? So stop talking nonsensitive things and give Uighurs and Tibetans their freedom which is their basic human rights.

  • This video is also funny, how come Chinese not to maintain law and order in Chinese Turkistan but only say it is a repression. Does this video recognise that most people killed and wounded were Han Chinese? It was an organised riot at least half of it : the demonstration was firstly peacefull and asked not separation from China but equality and better job chances for Uighurs, the Uighur demonstrators waved 5 star Chinese red flag.

  • Koreans are very cunning. They always make agreements but never follow through the committed promise. Example : see how North Korea behaved in the international arena regarding their agreements with UN and S.Korea.

    Doing business with S.Koreans is also dangerous because they also don't follow agreements.

  • @Lazizkhodjia

    How funny is it ? Koguryo is not Korean , it is not originated from the Korean peninsula it came from Chinese land its capital was first in China for 400 years before relocation in Pyonyang area. Even that area North Korea area was part of the Han dynasty territory long before Koguryo extended into North Korea. There were no Korea as one country before Paeche, Silla and part of Koguryo unified into one in Korean Peninsula.

  • next will be such small countries like North Korea. chinese government already incorporated korean history into chinese history so they will have a pretext to invade them. An incient korean kingdom Gogureyo suddenly became "chinese". how funny is that.

  • chinese are very cunning, they will conquer your land and declare you are chinese and your land is chinese.

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  •  hope you really did understand every word EVERY person was saying, cause i didnt see any english subtitles when other ethnicities were talking :P CAN you even UNDERSTAND what their saying? or are you just arguing with others just for the sake of arguing and just believing whatever the reporters telling you. And if you really do understand chinese, then you wouldnt be talking about them like the way you are now.

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  • A Foolish person you are to think that every person who support china's is chinese ......... it goes to show how immature and naive a person you actually are.

  • @jameslimextension Haha dude you're a whining fag. I'm sure you know.

    Some advice: Try to be concise with your statements and don't just ramble on and write run-on sentences, as with better writing you may convince people are actually an American, and not some Han chauvinist.

  • Well for your info, just cause i helped china say somethings, does not mean im Chinese, im actually american for you info :P so that line doesn't work for me. I myself have already had a taste of how corrupted the united states actually is. and if you really want to go by the terms of free speech-------- name one and then if i really do decide to spend another few minutes on such a low class person who uses vulgar words in order to achieve his message.....

  • So ou resort to swearing now huh, wel that just shows how low class you are :P so just cause it happened a hundred years ago then it doesnt count? try telling that to the numerous african americas, japanese americas, and native american families that have suffered prejudice and racism in the united states, and then lets see what they'll say.

  • how long are you gonna keep removing my comments? I speak only the truth

    you know it yourselves that you posted a very biast report, if your really want to do reports, then do some on how the americans massacred the native americas, took over their rights..the list never ends. Dont forget that China is a developing country, what your doing right now, is like comparing a kid with an adult :P how long are you gonna keep removing my comment? FREE SPEECH!

  • @jameslimextension What did you say to get your comment removed??? I've been saying all sorts of mean things, and I have yet to have a comment removed.

    I'm sure they would talk about the Cherokee or Comanche or Iroquois if they were being fucked with now. But that was a hundred years ago. I imagine all the can talk about is poverty and alcoholism on the Rez.

    Oh, do they have free speech in China?

  • The so called "Taxi Driver's" actually a han, and the reporter made it seem like he was an uighar :P and he only asked questions which made his claim seem like the only right answer. How come they dont do any subtitles when the chinese officials talk or when other people talk? a failed report....

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  • @caonimazazhongtoushu Even if Japan invaded Australia, the hold of this territory would've been tenuous. Given that the results for the Battle of Midway held, and that the development of the A bomb took the same amount of time, I think the US would've still been able to launch bombing raids from the Mariana Islands.

  • It is curious to see that so many people leaving comments here support and believe that the uyghur separatist movement is rightful and lawful, as yet no single nation in the world recognises xinjiang as an independent nation nor show public support for that. why so?

  • @euvucan I don't think it is lawful, but that isn't the reason why it doesn't receive support. I think the reason is because any separatist movement in Xinjiang isn't feasible. It is a waste of resources to support it. That being said, not many nations officially recognize Taiwan, yet we all know it is de facto independent. The US sells weapons to them. We have diplomats there. That isn't lawful, right?

  • @xeroxsuesforcopy I think you can't compare taiwan to xinjiang, because taiwan is de facto independent whilst xinjiang is nothing near that, and taiwan has received diplomatic recognition as a country by numerous states whilst non recognises xinjiang nor did any single country tried to sell weapons to xinjiang apart from taliban i suppose.

  • @euvucan You miss my point.  I am saying that the diplomatic recognition doesn't really matter, but feasibility of independence does.

    Also, I think it is a fair comparison since both are organizations/nations that push for recognized autonomy and nominal independence.

  • it's amusing to see so many foreigners leave comments here

    being chinese, i don't even care about this shit

  • I think you got it backwards. Being Chinese, you are the foreigner.

  • blow cpc off and free the whole china.

  • LOL i cant help but laugh at the military training at the begining of the video

    why are they practicing how to throw punches?wouldnt a GUN be alot easier?=P

  • Nobody cares about justification arguments anymore. Politics is zero sum. I lived in America all my life, and to this day ethnic harmony is elusive. Even when Americans, white Americans, I believe put forth a truly wholehearted effort towards engendering that elusive racial peace. It would especially be difficult to create peace with a religion as Islam, in which moderation does not exist. Perhaps if Uyghers intermarried with the Hui Chinese Muslims, things might be better.

  • Im Chinese American and I support CHINA. Whatever the situation, there are Chinese people living in Xinjiang and they have a right to live there too. I believe in harmony in the region, but the killing of 100 Han in Xinjiang 2009 riots is intolerable!!!

  • @DamnHesRight12545

    There is no ethnic harmony without ethnic equality, and that is the root of the problem.

    I know it might seem counter intuitive to you to critisize your own kin, but the problem here is a lot more complex and dates wayyyy before the july riots.

    And if you want to talk about unlawful deaths, the media has not accurately reported the death toll of the Uygurs in the aftermath of the Chinese civilian retaliation.

  • @DamnHesRight12545 also, the government crackdown afterwards was severely sided against the Uygurs.

  • @DamnHesRight12545 Dude you are clueless, If Mainstream Americans treat you as how communist Chinese treat Uighurs you will forget about happiness and peace forever. Yet you are not native american you are Chinese migrant there. Uighurs are real owners of their lands for thousand of years. Their lands illegally occupied and their rights totally restricted, They are being systematically tortured and slaughtered. Millions of Uighurs have been slaughtered during Mass genocide since 1949.

  • how suddelny there are dozens of chineese agents commenting on this. go die and serve better your totalitarian government as a pile of compost.

  • Is it just me or did this video not have any subtitles...would've been useful

  • Freedom to East Turkistan...

  • Yeah I know it's "ABC Australia" but need to point out that Scotland WILL be leaving "the United Kingdom".

  • the world does not need another islamic fundamentalist state so... better the devil you know then the one you don't

  • "Thousands are arrested and tortured." Is there any proof? There is no such thing so those so-called human rights groups and biased Western media say we deny such things.

  • yes,,give every freedom movement the name of islamic fundamentalism and repress them,,hehehehe,at the same time they are providing full support to DALAi LAMA because he serves their interests,,bull shit ...war against terror.

  • Xinjiang is China!

    Chinese Gov should kick the bias and lying Brit medias out of China!

  • On the other hand, it was the US that defeated the Japanese. We didn't liberate China, but rather just forced resource hungry Imperial Japan to 'focus' on other things. I'm sure you know.

    Respect to anyone's ancestors that fought greed and tyranny.

    My argument is really against these annoying fenqing that take any criticism against their govt as a personal attack. Somehow this argument transformed into some pointless tit for tat and namecalling.

    You can join in if you want haha.

  • The report is on the wrong side of the facts.

  • xeroxsuesforcopy :

    Tell us why do you go to a chinese dump, find some garbage to eat?

  • I like to travel ^_^

    To be fair, India is worse.

  • xeroxsuesforcopy ,

    Sounds like you are a Xerox copy of a moron, even worse!

  • I guess your first insult didn't make any sense, so you erased it huh? Well, your second one isn't that much better.

    Anyways, the Chinese are weak. The country is full of peasants. Your navy isn't even capable of an invasion of Taiwan. And any Western male can pick up a Chinese chick. It is so easy.

    I don't see why you are trolling Youtube spewing all your Han chauvinism. You aren't fooling me. I've been to China. It's a dump.

  • Sorry xeroxsuesforcopy,

    I am not even Han. You are not fit to be part of humankind. You can wash my turban everyday!

  • Yeah, ok. You could be Japanese or Canadian for all I care. Regardless, you are a dirty troll. All your other posts on the other videos denigrating those ethnic groups that have grievances against the Han and praising the culture that is China are mean spirited and will be met with mean spirited responses.

  • I do not praise China. Miniorities everywhere will always have grievances but, in China's case, they are not being hounded to extinction; on the contrary, they have special rights & opportunities to improve themselves.

  • Fair enough. This is a reasonable response, and a true one as well.

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  • xeroxsuesforcopy ,

    You are finally clarity itself! No good trading insults! I agree that the Chinese are very ethnocentric but they keep themselves to themselves for the most part; they have been more sinned against than sinning, hence their aggression today against any power who try to belittle them.

  • You prove my point: "more sinned against than sinning." You guys got a chip on your soldier. I guess you guys won't be happy until you are even. Haha, there will never be a "harmonious" rise when you have all this baggage.

    Anyway, I'm not insulting you guys posting here. I am just stating the truth. You guys really are brainwashed morons. Nooch!

  • voyager01 & xeroxsuesforcopy,

    You both appear to be at cross-purposes! Just unite for the supremacy of China! All else is vain.

  • The supremacy of China over what? You must think I am Han.

    I have nothing against most things Chinese. I just don't like the attitude of blaming outsiders for their problems and not criticizing (or allowing criticism of) themselves. I also don't like to see culture trashed in the name of progress. This isn't something unique to the Chinese, I might add. Many cultures, including my own, does this or have done something like this in the past. It isn't right in any situation.

  • "That is normal, when you are weak others bully you" - Voyager01.

    Witness folks, the only smart thing Voyager has said. It is true because I am verbally kicking his ass right now!

    Also, watch how he tries to retort with some silly little point such as how I wrote Taiwan instead of ROC, or how I didn't mention some insignificant battle, or how I didn't state a fact (that doesn't need stating) in an attempt to say I didn't know said fact.

  • For any observers who are witnessing this spat, the thing that started it all was my wry observation that the Chinese are developing Xinjiang just like the Japanese developed Manchuria. I wanted to bait these brainwashed 愤青 and I have been successful. The conversation has gone through a variety of subjects as voyager01 has attempted to change the topic in order to try to win any points in the argument. I've addressed and discredited all of his points, while he has ignored most of mine.

  • @xeroxsuesforcopy

    "I have been successful."

    "The Chinese lost every battle against the Japanese except Changsha"

    hahahahahahahahaha

  • People that can read and write English at a high school level would agree with me. The Chinese were losers and they were weak... you even said so yourself. They deserved to be invaded because they were weak. You also said this. And they were invaded. The Japanese fucked you guys up. Seriously! You can mention any insignificant battle, but it doesn't change the fact that you guys, CCP or KMT, were getting raped.

  • Again, Voyager needs to learn history. Good thing he is in the West. We will cure him of his brainwashing.

    How do I know he is in the West? Well, in China, Youtube is censored!

  • @xeroxsuesforcopy This voyager guy is obviously a brainwashed moron.

  • @drubicle

    lol, you are subscribed to Michael Moore, and you think that I am brainwashed.

  • You retard, the convention in the free world is to call the mainland China, and to call this island off the coast Taiwan. You are are rhetorical monkey.

    Regardless, the Chinese lost in one month, the US decided to pull out due to popular unrest after spending more than 10 years there. Makes it look like the PLA didn't know what they were doing... 50,000 casualties in one month is embarrassing

  • @xeroxsuesforcopy

    Again, learn history.

    You wrote:

    "According to Official Chinese History, Taiwan is a part of China, "

    Obviously, you are brainwashed by western media, because ROC president calls his country Republic of China.

  • Take the time to learn how we label countries, moron. If a person here says Taiwan it is totally interchangeable with ROC. And if a person here says China it is interchangeable with PRC. You are desperately grasping for arguments and just making yourself look more foolish. In fact, I look forward to your inane retort to this, since I have so much fun making you look stupid.

  • @xeroxsuesforcopy

    Actually, you are stupid, this is what you wrote:

    1."According to Official Chinese History, Taiwan is a part of China, "

    2.""The Chinese lost every battle against the Japanese except Changsha"

    3."the CCP lost to the Japanese"

  • 1. So you are telling me Taiwan is its own country? Is this why they buy missiles from the US, but not from China?

    2. Whatever minimal battles that the Chinese forces may have won is meaningless when the war was being lost.

    3. The CCP fought with the KMT at Taiyuan. Of course, the Japanese won.

    3 for 3! I win!!!!

    You can try again if you want.

  • @xeroxsuesforcopy

    1. retarded idiot. Taiwan is a province of the RoC. RoC and PRC are two diff. countries

    2. war was stalemate from 1939.,

    3. the problem is that you didn't know that PRC was founded in 1949. hahahaha,

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  • Already explained. "Take the time to learn how we label countries, moron. If a person here says Taiwan it is totally interchangeable with ROC. And if a person here says China it is interchangeable with PRC. "

    Plus if you saw that I also wrote that in "official Chinese history", Genghis Khan is Han and the Chinese invented everything. I was using irony. Do you know what Irony is? You didn't mention it, so I guess not. Anyways, my use of Irony suggest that none of these things are true!!!

  • haha chinese got their ass kicked?whats the strongest nation in the world for almost 5000 years that everyone tried so hard to kiss up to and find,that eventually led to the discovery of north america?what nation did everyone envy and caused countries like japan and mongolia to all copy their culture?

    we kicked your white ass for centuries and centuries and centuries,we make one mistake and you grab onto it like your dads dick huh?well go back to the ghetto kid,lick your grandmas asshle

  • Wow, watch out for the 愤青. I guess I must have hurt your feelings, struck a nerve, opened a wound. Apologies for my rash comments posted previously :)

    Most sincerely, xeroxsuesforcopy XOXO

    p.s.: you're a fag

  • @xeroxsuesforcopy

    hahahaha yea i got my feelings hurt,sure

    is pretty sad that stress and pollution these days caused kids like you to be born with mental illness and damaged common sense.if you want to see a mental doctor,i can introduce someone for you,gimme a call son =)

  • I don't want to see your family doctor. He may turn me into a stinking pussy like you.

  • @ulongkoror The Chinese people never discovered North America. No evidence supports that. 

  • @kentekent

    no what i meant was that china was so powerful and advanced that europeans were all eager to find a easier route to china.and trying to reach china eventually led to accidently discovering north america

    but just for your information,there has been arguements about proof about chinese finding north america in 15th century.there was an ENORMOUS fleet sent by chinese emperor that some argued,did land in north america,but hard to find proof for it

  • Yeah the guy that led that fleet didn't have testicles, right?

  • @xeroxsuesforcopy

    (facepalm) another act of stupidity from igorant americans

  • @ulongkoror Dude you are talking about Zheng He. He was a eunuch. No nutes, just like you. 太监!

    Oh he sailed West, not East, so any claim that the Chinese discovered America is nationalist bs.

    I like how you have nothing substantive to say, btw.

  • @xeroxsuesforcopy

    whats so wrong with being an eunuch?you think he had a choice?thats why americans are ignorant,they make a HUUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGGEEEEEEEEE fuss about people being gay or eunuch or small dick,like something with your sexuality will make you a loser in life or something.whites are just obessed with things to do with dicks for some reason

    he sailed west?for your information,north america IS west!!asia is EAST!!!

  • @ulongkoror Dude, sorry to offend you. But seriously, how many eunuchs do you know personally? Not many I bet. It is an attribute that is not common.

    Also, he sailed west to Arabia. I didn't say he sailed TO THE west. There is a difference moron, get your English right.

  • @xeroxsuesforcopy

    you said west,you didnt mention arabia,and you blame my english for not godly read your mind that you are talking about arabia?so i have to have a crystal ball and know exactly what you are trying to say or im the dumb one?wow

    and eunuchs are obviously not common now due to human rights and crap,but back in the day is common in many cultures so,you cant compare eunches today to eunches hundreds of years ago

  • @ulongkoror You're Chinese, I figured you would've known that the most famous ocean-faring trip in China completed during the 15th century was completed by a eunuch named Zheng He, and that he sailed as far west to Arabia and the eastern coast of Africa.

    I learned that in China.

  • @xeroxsuesforcopy

    yes and your point is!??!that hes nothing because he has no dick!??!

  • @ulongkoror He has a dick. But he doesn't have testicles.  I bet he had a sweet singing voice.

  • @xeroxsuesforcopy

    just like justine beaver

  • @ulongkoror I'm sorry, but I am not familiar with Justine Beaver

  • I know something about the Second Sino-Japanese war. I know the Chinese got there ass kicked and had their women raped. That is how it would be summarized in one sentence. hahaha What more is there to know? Seriously, do we have to keep on going over this?

  • @xeroxsuesforcopy

    Again, you know nothing about Sino japanese war. From May 1939 there was 20 Chinese victories and only 9 japanese victories. Go to wikipedia:-sino jap war->Military engagements of the Second Sino-Japanese War

  • Geez, you are still harping about this? I don't care about all these insignificant battles. The bottom line is that the Chinese forces were not winning the war. American forces persuaded the Japs to surrender. You Chinese try to take credit for making the Chinese surrender, but it is a joke. The Japs formally surrendered on an American battleship, not a Chinese one.

    You aren't willing to accept the truth because it hurts your feelings. Pussy.

  • That's a lie.

    Chinese did what they did to resist the Japanese and if you want to insult people like my grandfather for doing everything he could to stem invasion despite the awful conditions of China during that era then you should go fuck yourself.

    Don't take credit for battles you never fought yourself because in war every soldier is a victim of their governments wrongdoings.

  • @kingmafi6699

    Listen, I'm not saying the Chinese didn't resist. But let's face it, mere resistance doesn't stop the enemies from exerting their will. The French resisted, the British resisted, the Russians resisted, the Chinese resisted. Out of all of these combatants, only the Russians really turned the tides of the war to their favor. In my opinion, the Russians won the war (European Theater) and the American cavalry rode in when it was most advantageous.

  • So what?

    I got Chinese descent and Russian descent and would have had plenty of dead relatives.

    But Stalin was another psychotic tyrant who slaughtered anyone who even looked at him wrong. He wasted tens of millions of lives for nothing.