Doesn't look at ease in that car. Alonso would on more occasions pounce the **** out of someone on that. He has done it so many times before. The object of passing a car is to overtake without contact. Alonso did what he though was right at the time.
@ariell92 you mean when he was still allowed to finish first. I still remember him having to let alonso into the lead at germany shortly after he returned from that big accident, had that race totally won but was told to back off. such a shame, he wasn't won since.
@atjays yep...it is really a shame. he still havent touched the podium this year and doubt he will. 2008 should had been his championship but he lost it by a point
whats with the stupid music when you have live commentry on the video doesn't make much sense does it and btw the way f1 and music dont go togther you should know that by now.
@BlackR4in Magny-Cours = Boring, boring, boring, boring, boring, boring... In France, I would prefer a race at Paul Ricard or The Bugatti Circuit in Le-Mans
The reason why Alonso's fans are and will always be the worst. First of all any competition to Alonso is taken down by his fans. Even if its not from hamilton or his own teammates. Anyone. If a driver is in front of Alonso they start calling the other driver an idiot, or whatever. It just sickens me sometimes. And secondly anything any other driver does is magnified and anything Alonso does is either minimized or aggressively defended by his brainless followers.
@schumachertimesrossi Ima be honest with you alonso has done things that no body else has even arton sena the greatest F1 driver of all time, he won 2 years in a row as youngest driver and on the other hand in 2008 his renualt car was considered as the worst F1 car in renualt history but he won 2 races there that's something even schumacher didn't do it, so think well before saying it
@Greatvideo100 i never said alonso doesn't have talent. He Does. And BTW about the R28 being the worst car in renault history that was overtaken by its successor the R29. That was the worst car in Renault's history.
@schumachertimesrossi Yes Alonso might not have won in 2006 had schumi's engine not failed at suzuka and might not have won in 2005 if it weren't for kimi's bad luck but you can say that about almost any driver. Alonso might have been 2007 world champ IF he had been treated more fairly at Mclaren. Kimi might not have won in 2007 IF Hamilton didn't make his mistakes in brazil and china. Massa would have won in 2008 IF Hamilton didn't get lucky on the last lap. If's count for nothing in F1.
heidfeld is never won a race in 10 years ALONSO is fifth in history in winnings,he won 2 championship with slower cars and almost won 2 more championship ALONSO IS ONE AND ONLY ,IMMORTAL FOREVER
@denomvideo Heidfeld is one of the most underated drivers. At least he doesn't cry when things don't go his way and has never cheated. And another thing if it weren't for Kimi's bad luck or Schumi's engine failure at Suzuka, Alonso would be a zero time champ. Fact. You're just another one of his arrogant followers i can see.
Heidfeld is technically much better than Kubica. Kubica does more mistakes and has more technical problems. He seems so overrated - he is just average. Nick is at least at the same level
@Krames92 I kinda love the track as well, not my favourite track but fast chicanes and corners,long straights and a couple of deep hairpins makes a track really challenging but the problem with Magny cours was that it was too narrow and not enough overtaking.
there's no need for bmw sauber to hire kubica if the team is all about heidfeld, what a waste! technical problem? maybe kubica is a car breaker..heidfeld drives smoothly in every race, and score points..solid points, although without win..
you are a ball breaker and first of all - your knowledge about F1 sucks. Heidfeld is smooth when he is 8th. He is unable to be faster and that's why nobody wants to hire him. Peter Sauber was observing him for many years and didn't want to hire him this season!Don't you ask yourself why??
The reason why peter sauber didnt go for heidfeld was because Mercedes were going to sign him up to partner rosberg. But then mercedes signed schumacher & asked nick to be a test driver who will get the mercedes race seat next. Nick chose to stick mercedes....good choice. Peter sauber has always valued & respected nick & still does. It was nick's choice. BTW...nick is one of the most nicest guys in F1 hes also extremely talented.
@SupaSix1 Nick is a very good, talented driver, but not a real champion. For F1 he is juts a solid, secure driver, but not a winning mentality like Alonso, Kubica or Hamilton.
I like Kubica too, he is very laid back and if he gets a good car he can fight for podiums.
But he also makes mistakes, the best known is the battle for 2nd with Vettel at Melbourne 2009! That really didn't have to happen, but he'll learn from it along the way hopefully.
It wouldn't surprise me if Kubica will be Alonso's teammate in 2011. Massa's contract is ending this year(?) and Alonso&Kubica are friends...
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i cant understand why kubica is so famous he just won a race with a lot of luck he is an average driver in 2007 heidfeld won him in points and in 2009 too kubica only beat him in 2008 so kubica = average
Kubica is famous cause he is one of the bests together with Alonso and Hamilton. in F1. No country from Central Europe had particular F1 experience, cause it was impossible due to political system till 1989.
@reprepF1 I also love Kubica because of that being Polish and not typically british or geman but I have to admit that he is only a race winner because of a german heidfeld was ordered to let him pass at canada
@IvanMD09 yeah that is right... in points Heidfeld has won from Kubica in 2007.. but Kubica is driving himself more in the picture... Kubica is more around in the race then Heidfeld i believe.
and in 2009 heidfeld beat him eighter plus im not saying wich one is better i just say that he is so much over rated he is an average drive he is famous just coz the montreal crash in 2007 and the race that he won with A LOT OF LUCK drivers like vettel, hamilton, alonso even webber is better than kubica
Exactly. But Heidfeld fans are maikng him F1 top driver what is ridiculous. BMWSauber should be called BMWHeidfeld, The team was set almost all for him
Nick is underrated as a driver. He's a solid driver. At the end of this season, who's on top with the points? I think it's Heidfeld, not Kubica! About Alonso, he's probably the best in F1, and I'm not an Alonsofan, but he just is the best I think.
About the video, nice, clean, fair duel!
PS: All those haters, If u have nothing usefull to say, just shut it!
Idiot, Robert has won a race and outclassed Nick in 2008! 2009 was a shit season when Robert had technical failures all the time. Anyway he has made the only good race for BMW in 2009- GP Brazil. Heidfeld is a very average driver, Kubica is the champion with Alonso and Hamilton. That's not just a case that nobody want's Heidfeld- everyone knows he was protected by BMW
Absolutely not. In 2007 Kubica had much worse car, which always had technical problems. Kubica was even leading the Chinese GP 2007 and was going to take a win when his car had hydraulic problem... in 2009 only Kubica showed something particular in Brazil, Heidfeld was just average through the whole season. The car in 2009 was set for lighter drivers so Heidfeld should have big advtage over Kubica but it wasn't so.
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Heidfeld had a podium finish (2nd) in the second race of the F1 season 2009 (Malaysia), with a bad car. Kubica didn't have any points at all for the first races, often due to his crashes, and scored mainly when the car had finally improved. In my opinion a great driver separates himself from a good driver by performing even when a car is not good.
This podium in Malaysia was a scandal- Heidfeld was going on 4 stops and when you consider that, he had a very light car and was unable to be really fast. Then that race wasn't normal. Kubica had engine problems during that race. If you think Heidfeld is better than Kubica, you don't know anything about F1. Kubica is one of the bests in F1 nowadays, Heidfeld just average. Robert just had a shitty car this year. The only good race for BMW was Brazil 2009 (Kubica's great race)
@legia97 i can say that u r the real ignorant in f1 than anyone u blamed..heidfeld was on one and only stop in malaysia until the race was stopped..u can check it again..or u may watch the race again..so who actually in light car? BMW always gamble heidfeld then kubica...btw, f1 is all about "if" dude..if glock didn't allow hamilton took over him at brazil '08, massa could be the WC..if hamilton didn't crash onto raikkonen at canada '08, who knows who's the real victory? peace! =D
@legia97 heidfeld was in consideration to take a seat in mercedes and it almost to be confirm before ross brawn offer the seat to schumacher..sauber & renault also have an intent to hire heidfeld but as time running out at the time heidfeld almost confirm to be the mercedes driver, they have to pick up another in their short list..its just not heidfeld's luck..but then i think its ok for him to stay a while as test driver than drive in new teams... =)
Heidfeld was able to pick up "little" points" this year, but he didn't have any technical problems, on the contrary to Kubica. Robert always claims that 2nd is the first looser and he wants to win always. Nick is satisfied with his "little" points.
When?? Robert had CONSTANT technical failures in 2007 and 2009 so there is no comparison in these years! Kubica was leading the Chinese GP 2007 when his engine failed! Kubica won in fact a GP and took the pole while Heidfeld has never made it. Heidfeld was always supported by the team, but only people who know something about F1 know that
Luck evens out in the long run, Kubica wouldn't lose to Heidfeld even with bad luck if he is so much better. You are right he won BMW its first race so there is no reason why the team should favour Heidfeld, and no evidence for that, Theissen even fired Villeneuve to get room for Kubica as you know. Kubica had higher peak results but Heidfeld was little bit more consistent over the 4 years.
idiot, Robert had problems in Malaysia (his car was a joke there), Bahrein (everything, even team radio failed) and he didn't retire- he was just unable to race cause his car was kinda misunderstanding!BMWSauber treated him as test driver that year!He was even leading the Chinese GP and was going to win when his car failed suddenly! BMW were really bastards
Shame I get mail each time someone responds, annoying. So what's your excuse for 2009? Please post links for proofs that they treated him badly. And I see you are Polish, why would I trust you, of course you are biased towards Kubica because of your country. I am Finnish so I can look at both drivers neutral. Anyway I'm off, won't keep annoying you anymore :)
Idiot, check before you bullshit, ok? Nick had a record of consecutive finished races and had no retirement (from Japan 2007 to Singapore 2009!) Monza 2009 was a problem in Qualifying
Why begin each sentence with idiot, only shows disrespect. You originally wrote: "Heidfeld had only 1 failure - GP Japan 2007..." I proved he had 3 failures in 2007: Spain, USA and Japan.
I am a Kubica fan but im not a pathetic looser like all thous Nick fans and i can Agree that Alonso rulez man becous ehe had won 2 titles...oh gosh he won races did Heitfeld won races NOOOO. Kubica won it was 1 race ok he had luck ok but he cnows how it feels to be nr 1 and all thous people still say that Heitfeld was better than Robert in 2006 even tho robert was only in 3 races in 2006 man how can they be that pathetic :P
I agree, but Alonso is better than Kubica and Hamilton -Alonso has beaten M.Schumacher twice! Kubica and Hamilton have still a lot to learn, but I agree- Alonso the best, then Kubica and Hamilton, Vettel not far away from them
Proffs? read something more than official reports about F1. Don't you know that in every team there is 1st and 2nd driver?? Looking at technical failures, tyres problems etc you may discover who is who :)
Ferrari always had 1st driver- it was M.Schumacher. Now both Kimi and Felipe are disapointing so there is no point to choose. Brawn??If you can't see that Button was an option than what do you know about F1...? Other teams were just too weak to choose anybody
Well, you didn't check good- Heidfeld had only 1 failure - GP Japan 2007 and then on Monza 2009 in Qualifying. and Kubica had a lot of technical failures from 2007 to 2009
its better than stupid drs
NygusGB 2 months ago
DAVE MIRRAS BMX
YouthEnergy 4 months ago
Massa was p1 remember..... now I just wish for 3rd
desertman300 4 months ago
SORRY about the music folks!
I know it sucks, but I didn't imagine this video would have almost 100.000 views :P
alainprostttt89 5 months ago 3
a tip for all the people who uploads onboard clips (or any motorsport clips): DO NOT PUT ANY MUSIC IN!
pure engine noise is the best. But if there is commentary that's fine. but for the love of god do NOT put any music in it. the music ruins the clip.
jonathan102 6 months ago
Despite the attrocious audio of music vs. commentary, it still sounds better than 009 Sound System...
IndigoMichigan 6 months ago 3
why is there music when there is commentary??
KevinSilentControl 7 months ago
Doesn't look at ease in that car. Alonso would on more occasions pounce the **** out of someone on that. He has done it so many times before. The object of passing a car is to overtake without contact. Alonso did what he though was right at the time.
kwl189 7 months ago
What's with the song?
MrTimmyCahill 7 months ago
good old times when massa still finished first...
ariell92 8 months ago 3
@ariell92 you mean when he was still allowed to finish first. I still remember him having to let alonso into the lead at germany shortly after he returned from that big accident, had that race totally won but was told to back off. such a shame, he wasn't won since.
atjays 4 months ago
@atjays yep...it is really a shame. he still havent touched the podium this year and doubt he will. 2008 should had been his championship but he lost it by a point
ariell92 4 months ago
dislike cuz of music!
MrRsmember 8 months ago 5
I thumbed down because MUSIC OVER THIS VIDEO IS FUCKING GAY AS FUCK, FUCK YOU UPLOADER! STUPID BITCH
StonedGV 8 months ago 3
Heidfeld has been in F1 forever and has NEVER won a race.
rodentcafeteria 8 months ago
Heidfeld has Alonso's number!
Btw, love David Hobbs commentary!
jeffsvilleusa 8 months ago
alonso the best pilot
adam3000ifly 9 months ago 3
whats with the stupid music when you have live commentry on the video doesn't make much sense does it and btw the way f1 and music dont go togther you should know that by now.
BrotherYounis 11 months ago
Alonto and Heidfeld had a lot of moments like that in the past
fmercury666 11 months ago
I dont like Alonso, but this was a pretty good move... moves like these always look good in my opinion. Heidfeld remained calm tho :)
rodawa0 1 year ago
I miss this GP!
BlackR4in 1 year ago
@BlackR4in Magny-Cours = Boring, boring, boring, boring, boring, boring... In France, I would prefer a race at Paul Ricard or The Bugatti Circuit in Le-Mans
iagoil 11 months ago 4
The reason why Alonso's fans are and will always be the worst. First of all any competition to Alonso is taken down by his fans. Even if its not from hamilton or his own teammates. Anyone. If a driver is in front of Alonso they start calling the other driver an idiot, or whatever. It just sickens me sometimes. And secondly anything any other driver does is magnified and anything Alonso does is either minimized or aggressively defended by his brainless followers.
schumachertimesrossi 1 year ago
@schumachertimesrossi Ima be honest with you alonso has done things that no body else has even arton sena the greatest F1 driver of all time, he won 2 years in a row as youngest driver and on the other hand in 2008 his renualt car was considered as the worst F1 car in renualt history but he won 2 races there that's something even schumacher didn't do it, so think well before saying it
Greatvideo100 1 year ago
@Greatvideo100 i never said alonso doesn't have talent. He Does. And BTW about the R28 being the worst car in renault history that was overtaken by its successor the R29. That was the worst car in Renault's history.
schumachertimesrossi 1 year ago
@schumachertimesrossi Yes Alonso might not have won in 2006 had schumi's engine not failed at suzuka and might not have won in 2005 if it weren't for kimi's bad luck but you can say that about almost any driver. Alonso might have been 2007 world champ IF he had been treated more fairly at Mclaren. Kimi might not have won in 2007 IF Hamilton didn't make his mistakes in brazil and china. Massa would have won in 2008 IF Hamilton didn't get lucky on the last lap. If's count for nothing in F1.
aieljose 11 months ago 10
heidfeld is never won a race in 10 years ALONSO is fifth in history in winnings,he won 2 championship with slower cars and almost won 2 more championship ALONSO IS ONE AND ONLY ,IMMORTAL FOREVER
denomvideo 1 year ago
@denomvideo Heidfeld is one of the most underated drivers. At least he doesn't cry when things don't go his way and has never cheated. And another thing if it weren't for Kimi's bad luck or Schumi's engine failure at Suzuka, Alonso would be a zero time champ. Fact. You're just another one of his arrogant followers i can see.
schumachertimesrossi 1 year ago
@schumachertimesrossi Underrated? LOL Id say he's overrated. The guy has never won a race! He is not championship material.
aieljose 11 months ago
@aieljose I'd say his cars never were championship material. Let's find out how well he can do in the RE31 in 2011.
TheColinChapman 11 months ago
ALONSO BEST DRIVER FOREVER heidfeld just another geman driver who drive like idiot
denomvideo 1 year ago
ALONSO BEST DRIVER FOREVER heidfeld just another geman idiot
denomvideo 1 year ago
Hell yeah, Massa in first!
MrMBranda 1 year ago
Heidfeld is always paired up with drivers who are as good as him, or potentially slightly better.....like right now, with the banzai master, Kamui!
nitroboost8765 1 year ago 3
What name is the song?
JM9114 1 year ago
Nick Heidfeld is a safe pair of hands :)
MotorsportMonster 1 year ago
From Singapore on Heidfeld and Kobayashi will be teamed up at Sauber. Alonso will be ecstatic when he hears this.... :P
RogerZee 1 year ago
@RogerZee Peter Sauber favors Kobayashi's pace more, we shall see =)
Arai4lpinestars 1 year ago
heidfeld is the best driver not to win a race....the master of double overtakes!
nitroboost8765 1 year ago 2
HEIDFELD FANTASTICO! =DD
319andy 1 year ago
alonso is the best!! =)
ranxe1998 1 year ago 3
the music is so fucking anoying...
arschfikker 1 year ago
Heidfeld is technically much better than Kubica. Kubica does more mistakes and has more technical problems. He seems so overrated - he is just average. Nick is at least at the same level
bluecipo91 1 year ago
Kubica is an amazing talent, he always seems to drive beyond the car consistently!
stellpoons 1 year ago
I miss this track. One of my favourite tracks.
Krames92 1 year ago
@Krames92 I kinda love the track as well, not my favourite track but fast chicanes and corners,long straights and a couple of deep hairpins makes a track really challenging but the problem with Magny cours was that it was too narrow and not enough overtaking.
MclarenGooner10 1 year ago
i love the scraps Fernando and Nick have,Nick always have something Fernando hasnt got and therefore always beats Fernando
MclarenGooner10 1 year ago
@MclarenGooner10 yes.Nick is better than alonso.silly thing
perunicictovic 1 year ago
BTW....
Nick STILL holds the lap record for goodwood which he broke in 1999!!
Nick is also STILL the most reliable points scorer over many seasons...this is officially recognised.
SupaSix1 1 year ago
@SupaSix1 only cause he had a car that has almost never had failures
legia97 1 year ago
thx for the horrible music
arthusthefirst 1 year ago
Alonso has too much of an ego....he must have thought a pass on nick was easy, but nick kept his line!!! Fantastic!!!
nitroboost8765 1 year ago
btw, this video shouldnt have the music in my opinion :-S sorry!
eraserblueblazer 1 year ago 3
heidfeld deserves a seat this year. hes no worse than likes of trulli, glock or kovalainen. fact
eraserblueblazer 1 year ago 2
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bye bye heidfeld u wont fuck again
kikecacique 2 years ago
exactly!he is so "great" nobody wants him anymore
legia97 2 years ago
I suppose this means you are an Alonso fan who got tired of Heidfeld getting the better hand of him when they were dueling; for example from memory:
monaco 2005
monaco 2008
montreal 2008
bahrain 2007
france 2007
fuji 2007
12345andy54321 2 years ago 3
@12345andy54321 exactly hahahaha i have to admit that heidfeld was a good driver but not superb as alonso
kikecacique 2 years ago
there's no need for bmw sauber to hire kubica if the team is all about heidfeld, what a waste! technical problem? maybe kubica is a car breaker..heidfeld drives smoothly in every race, and score points..solid points, although without win..
nurazrolzaa 2 years ago 27
you are a ball breaker and first of all - your knowledge about F1 sucks. Heidfeld is smooth when he is 8th. He is unable to be faster and that's why nobody wants to hire him. Peter Sauber was observing him for many years and didn't want to hire him this season!Don't you ask yourself why??
legia97 2 years ago
@legia97
The reason why peter sauber didnt go for heidfeld was because Mercedes were going to sign him up to partner rosberg. But then mercedes signed schumacher & asked nick to be a test driver who will get the mercedes race seat next. Nick chose to stick mercedes....good choice. Peter sauber has always valued & respected nick & still does. It was nick's choice. BTW...nick is one of the most nicest guys in F1 hes also extremely talented.
SupaSix1 1 year ago
@SupaSix1 Nick is a very good, talented driver, but not a real champion. For F1 he is juts a solid, secure driver, but not a winning mentality like Alonso, Kubica or Hamilton.
legia97 1 year ago
I like Kubica too, he is very laid back and if he gets a good car he can fight for podiums.
But he also makes mistakes, the best known is the battle for 2nd with Vettel at Melbourne 2009! That really didn't have to happen, but he'll learn from it along the way hopefully.
It wouldn't surprise me if Kubica will be Alonso's teammate in 2011. Massa's contract is ending this year(?) and Alonso&Kubica are friends...
NotImportante82 2 years ago 2
In Australia 2009 it's rather Vettel who has made mistake than Kubica
legia97 2 years ago 4
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i cant understand why kubica is so famous he just won a race with a lot of luck he is an average driver in 2007 heidfeld won him in points and in 2009 too kubica only beat him in 2008 so kubica = average
IvanMD09 2 years ago
Kubica is famous because he is Polish.
German , Britsh , Italian drivers and more drivers have a racing background.(F1 history)
Poland does not have any F1 History so that Kubica is a great driver , is also because he is the first Polish driver and GP winner
reprepF1 2 years ago 43
Kubica is famous cause he is one of the bests together with Alonso and Hamilton. in F1. No country from Central Europe had particular F1 experience, cause it was impossible due to political system till 1989.
legia97 2 years ago 2
@reprepF1 im polish andi thought he is famous only in poland
in poland he still isnt that famous like few pop stars or some but one of greater sport persons
C00LPH0NE 1 year ago
@C00LPH0NE Polish pop stars also only famous in your country i listen to few of them and i tell you what all of them suck
MIKRO2323 1 year ago
@MIKRO2323 EVERY POP STARS ARE COCKSUCKERS
AVE!! 666
C00LPHONE 1 year ago
@reprepF1
Kubica is famous because he is on of the best drivers nowadays.
5950ziel 8 months ago
@reprepF1 I also love Kubica because of that being Polish and not typically british or geman but I have to admit that he is only a race winner because of a german heidfeld was ordered to let him pass at canada
QOTSAPT 5 months ago
@reprepF1 That is utter bullshit. Kubica is a top tier driver, not because he is polish, but because he is fast.
jayrol93 4 months ago
@IvanMD09 yeah that is right... in points Heidfeld has won from Kubica in 2007.. but Kubica is driving himself more in the picture... Kubica is more around in the race then Heidfeld i believe.
wiebert 2 years ago
and in 2009 heidfeld beat him eighter plus im not saying wich one is better i just say that he is so much over rated he is an average drive he is famous just coz the montreal crash in 2007 and the race that he won with A LOT OF LUCK drivers like vettel, hamilton, alonso even webber is better than kubica
IvanMD09 2 years ago
@IvanMD09 If you can't understand it means you don't know anything about F1. There are only 2 other drivers who are on his level -Alonso and Hamilton
legia97 1 year ago
@legia97 You may have forgotten Vettel.
fabio1292 1 year ago
nick is a solid driver but thats all, is not a great driver, i think he is a normal driver.
feretro 2 years ago 5
Exactly. But Heidfeld fans are maikng him F1 top driver what is ridiculous. BMWSauber should be called BMWHeidfeld, The team was set almost all for him
legia97 2 years ago
why all this hate? djeez...
Nick is underrated as a driver. He's a solid driver. At the end of this season, who's on top with the points? I think it's Heidfeld, not Kubica! About Alonso, he's probably the best in F1, and I'm not an Alonsofan, but he just is the best I think.
About the video, nice, clean, fair duel!
PS: All those haters, If u have nothing usefull to say, just shut it!
Quiron1985 2 years ago 2
Idiot, Robert has won a race and outclassed Nick in 2008! 2009 was a shit season when Robert had technical failures all the time. Anyway he has made the only good race for BMW in 2009- GP Brazil. Heidfeld is a very average driver, Kubica is the champion with Alonso and Hamilton. That's not just a case that nobody want's Heidfeld- everyone knows he was protected by BMW
legia97 2 years ago
why don´t you put the video of the real overtake ? jajajaja in the chicane ! just a couple of laps later !
hhuugguuiinn 2 years ago 2
Exactly
legia97 2 years ago
well what about raikkonen ? he also had a good car in 2008 and he drove not very good because the car wasnt good for his driving style...
i really hope for nick that he will win a grand prix next year ... he really deserve it
visual9876 2 years ago
Raikonnen is a graet driver but he distracts himself from F1 too much. Less parties, more driving and then maybe he will be back :)
legia97 2 years ago
we need more like this
d0ubl3sh0t 2 years ago
heidfeld.. sooo underated and quiet..... and MAAAAN what a racer alonso is
SuperHardTrance 2 years ago 7
No, he is absolutely not underrated. In 2008 he had a very good car but was unable to use it.
legia97 2 years ago
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Sure, that was only one season. In 2007 and now 2009 he was at least as good as Kubica in the BMW...
TimeKiller0924 2 years ago
Absolutely not. In 2007 Kubica had much worse car, which always had technical problems. Kubica was even leading the Chinese GP 2007 and was going to take a win when his car had hydraulic problem... in 2009 only Kubica showed something particular in Brazil, Heidfeld was just average through the whole season. The car in 2009 was set for lighter drivers so Heidfeld should have big advtage over Kubica but it wasn't so.
legia97 2 years ago
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Heidfeld had a podium finish (2nd) in the second race of the F1 season 2009 (Malaysia), with a bad car. Kubica didn't have any points at all for the first races, often due to his crashes, and scored mainly when the car had finally improved. In my opinion a great driver separates himself from a good driver by performing even when a car is not good.
O5ZMAN 2 years ago
This podium in Malaysia was a scandal- Heidfeld was going on 4 stops and when you consider that, he had a very light car and was unable to be really fast. Then that race wasn't normal. Kubica had engine problems during that race. If you think Heidfeld is better than Kubica, you don't know anything about F1. Kubica is one of the bests in F1 nowadays, Heidfeld just average. Robert just had a shitty car this year. The only good race for BMW was Brazil 2009 (Kubica's great race)
legia97 2 years ago
@legia97 i can say that u r the real ignorant in f1 than anyone u blamed..heidfeld was on one and only stop in malaysia until the race was stopped..u can check it again..or u may watch the race again..so who actually in light car? BMW always gamble heidfeld then kubica...btw, f1 is all about "if" dude..if glock didn't allow hamilton took over him at brazil '08, massa could be the WC..if hamilton didn't crash onto raikkonen at canada '08, who knows who's the real victory? peace! =D
nurazrolzaa 1 year ago 6
@nurazrolzaa hahaha, so where the f.. is Heidfeld now if I'm ignorant??Heidfeld is soo good nobody wants him anymore
legia97 1 year ago
@legia97 heidfeld was in consideration to take a seat in mercedes and it almost to be confirm before ross brawn offer the seat to schumacher..sauber & renault also have an intent to hire heidfeld but as time running out at the time heidfeld almost confirm to be the mercedes driver, they have to pick up another in their short list..its just not heidfeld's luck..but then i think its ok for him to stay a while as test driver than drive in new teams... =)
nurazrolzaa 1 year ago
Heidfeld was able to pick up "little" points" this year, but he didn't have any technical problems, on the contrary to Kubica. Robert always claims that 2nd is the first looser and he wants to win always. Nick is satisfied with his "little" points.
legia97 2 years ago
Heidfeld outscored Kubica each year they raced together, except in 2008. Enough said...
C3lloman 2 years ago
When?? Robert had CONSTANT technical failures in 2007 and 2009 so there is no comparison in these years! Kubica was leading the Chinese GP 2007 when his engine failed! Kubica won in fact a GP and took the pole while Heidfeld has never made it. Heidfeld was always supported by the team, but only people who know something about F1 know that
legia97 2 years ago
Luck evens out in the long run, Kubica wouldn't lose to Heidfeld even with bad luck if he is so much better. You are right he won BMW its first race so there is no reason why the team should favour Heidfeld, and no evidence for that, Theissen even fired Villeneuve to get room for Kubica as you know. Kubica had higher peak results but Heidfeld was little bit more consistent over the 4 years.
C3lloman 2 years ago
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Oh and I checked the CONSTANT failures in 2007 and 2009, turned out Kubica had 3 retirements both years, when Heidfeld had 2. Big difference...
C3lloman 2 years ago
How can you be consistent when your car has ALWAYS some problems??
legia97 2 years ago
idiot, Robert had problems in Malaysia (his car was a joke there), Bahrein (everything, even team radio failed) and he didn't retire- he was just unable to race cause his car was kinda misunderstanding!BMWSauber treated him as test driver that year!He was even leading the Chinese GP and was going to win when his car failed suddenly! BMW were really bastards
legia97 2 years ago
Shame I get mail each time someone responds, annoying. So what's your excuse for 2009? Please post links for proofs that they treated him badly. And I see you are Polish, why would I trust you, of course you are biased towards Kubica because of your country. I am Finnish so I can look at both drivers neutral. Anyway I'm off, won't keep annoying you anymore :)
C3lloman 2 years ago
Oh and if "legia97" means you are born 1997, then you're just a kid lol. Follow the sport a few more years and you will learn.
C3lloman 2 years ago
idiot, I am older than you and I was racing when you were still shitting in your pants
legia97 2 years ago
"Heidfeld had only 1 failure - GP Japan 2007 and then on Monza 2009 in Qualifying. "
Don't tell these lies then, you should check again what you write :)
C3lloman 2 years ago
Idiot, check before you bullshit, ok? Nick had a record of consecutive finished races and had no retirement (from Japan 2007 to Singapore 2009!) Monza 2009 was a problem in Qualifying
legia97 2 years ago
Why begin each sentence with idiot, only shows disrespect. You originally wrote: "Heidfeld had only 1 failure - GP Japan 2007..." I proved he had 3 failures in 2007: Spain, USA and Japan.
Made myself clear?
C3lloman 2 years ago
Sorry for idiot :) Yes, but from Japan 2007 he didn't stop cause of technical problems till now!Pretty much, isn't it?
legia97 2 years ago
Heifeld never won a race he is a pice of shit
F1brawfa 2 years ago 2
F1brawfa never won a race, he didn't even make it to f1, he is a piece of shit :p
C3lloman 2 years ago 3
@F1brawfa
I think you're a piece of shit. Try race in F1 moron.
jakelamotta67 2 years ago
oooooooo he is a legend ! how many races has he won ? how many titles ? nick is shit ! alonso rules !
hhuugguuiinn 2 years ago 7
I am a Kubica fan but im not a pathetic looser like all thous Nick fans and i can Agree that Alonso rulez man becous ehe had won 2 titles...oh gosh he won races did Heitfeld won races NOOOO. Kubica won it was 1 race ok he had luck ok but he cnows how it feels to be nr 1 and all thous people still say that Heitfeld was better than Robert in 2006 even tho robert was only in 3 races in 2006 man how can they be that pathetic :P
F1brawfa 2 years ago 4
I completely agree with you... kubica is much better than nick... there´s no comparation... for me the drivers podium is ALONSO HAMILTON KUBICA
PD: WE WILL MISS YOU KIMI! GOOD LUCK IN WRC ! YOU MUST DEFEAT LOEB !
hhuugguuiinn 2 years ago 3
I agree, but Alonso is better than Kubica and Hamilton -Alonso has beaten M.Schumacher twice! Kubica and Hamilton have still a lot to learn, but I agree- Alonso the best, then Kubica and Hamilton, Vettel not far away from them
legia97 2 years ago
Proffs? read something more than official reports about F1. Don't you know that in every team there is 1st and 2nd driver?? Looking at technical failures, tyres problems etc you may discover who is who :)
legia97 2 years ago
Mmm... Ferrari doesn't have 1st driver, neither has Toyota, Red Bull, Torro Rosso, Force India, Brawn drivers went head-to-head, etc
C3lloman 2 years ago
Ferrari always had 1st driver- it was M.Schumacher. Now both Kimi and Felipe are disapointing so there is no point to choose. Brawn??If you can't see that Button was an option than what do you know about F1...? Other teams were just too weak to choose anybody
legia97 2 years ago
Well, you didn't check good- Heidfeld had only 1 failure - GP Japan 2007 and then on Monza 2009 in Qualifying. and Kubica had a lot of technical failures from 2007 to 2009
legia97 2 years ago
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2007 Spanish GP:
Nick Heidfeld RET (gearbox)
2007 United States GP:
Nick Heidfeld RET (transmission)
Those are not failures? You are funny :)
C3lloman 2 years ago
Robert, had such failures almost every race that season!Check once again!
legia97 2 years ago
@legia97 That seems to work for nick, doesn't it? a fine driver, i would say
nitroboost8765 1 year ago
these two have had quite a few fights over the years
martynhenrystyles 2 years ago 11
Yeah like silverstone 2008 and Bahrain 2007, with Heidfeld coming out on top each time
Caseestoner 2 years ago
a alonso le jodieron el campeonato los de mclaren-mercedes,,,,,,ALONSO CAMPEON.
4alonsista 2 years ago
very good fight.
mackey12160204 2 years ago 5
ahi con dos cojones.
escocia333 2 years ago
cbbd
mexicanalf 2 years ago
Beautiful braking and turning at 0:18 from Fernando!
andyweed 2 years ago