This is often known as the twice written concerto... First performed in 1916, the score was lost in a fire, so Prokofiev had to re-write it from memory for its second premiere under Sergei Koussevitsky in 1924...The problem was that many in the audience who had seen the 1916 premiere swore that this was an entirely different concerto...It would be great if we could recover the 1916 score, but unfortunately it seems that it is irretrievably lost...
@tcombs85, mostly it has to do with personal preference but the facts are that 1) it is the most difficult concerto technically, just compare how many performers played this and Rach's 3rd and you have the answer, especially the cadenza is ridiculous and you are there "naked" in front of the audience without an orchestra to cover any mistakes
Because you might not be used to his sound? It was composed having in mind a friend who suicided. Probably having this in mind you might appreciate it and understand the concerto which (in my opinion) is the masterpiece of the 20th century's concertos
The orchestra in Prokofiev concerto's is also very important and does not just acompany the performer, and finally (trust me) the more you listen to it the more you will enjoy it and appreciate.
@georgypapa28 100% agree......this concerto is an absolute masterpiece....every time i hear it i discover something new......i think Rach piano concertos are all nursery tunes in comparison to this.....technically and emotionally unmatched....
This seems like the utmost demanding technical piece. However, it lacks the beauty, control, and otherworldy feeling that Rach 3 captures. It is pretty and at times exquisite but its theme is much less appealing that R3 and seems like it is tangential at times. All that said, this is definitely one of the most rediculously awesome pieces of music and performances of all time. IMHO, Id say this is the most difficult piece, but ranking behind Rach 3 and many other piano concertos overall.
@tcombs85 Remember, that is very subjective, and som think this is more appeling, like myself, even if I overall prefer Rachmaninovs music over prokofievs =)
Ginastera's Piano Concerto No. 1 and Bartok's Piano Concerto No. 2 are considerably more difficult than either the Rachmaninov 3 or Prokofiev 2, so it's a bit moot. In fact, the expanded version of Tchaikovsky's Piano Concerto No. 2 is also more difficult than Rachmaninov's 3rd. Regarding concerti outside of the common (or quasi-common) repertoire, there are plenty that are more difficult than any of the ones listed above, as well.
@tcombs85 Disagreed. Imagine, the cadenza in the first movement is not a cadenza actually... This concerto has captured a technique so demanding, and though it describes the image it wants to... So deeply inner it is, speaking of a suicide, so simple the three-note theme is on the contrary of the Rach 3, which is also one of my very favourite. No one is "Better", but they present different images in front of our eyes. I would say the same for Scriabin Concerto. Inner is the word.
The theme in the 1st movement is fantastic. That combined with the performance of a so gifted piano player, enchants you, so that you cannot help watch it. He plays the piece perfect. If I should compare this concerto with the other 4, I wouldn't hesitate saying, this is the best of them.
@tjtheplay Yes ! Don't get me wrong...the cadenza is extremely difficult...but a lot of the concerto is even more difficult I think. The 2nd movement is very very tough, and the last movement is full of huge leaps. There are some passages that are easier but not many. Of course it all depends what a pianist finds difficult or not...
slightly fast for my taste, yet still played with such clarity and precision, so I'm not complaining! Please check out my performance of this piece on my channel if you have a chance!!
This is often known as the twice written concerto... First performed in 1916, the score was lost in a fire, so Prokofiev had to re-write it from memory for its second premiere under Sergei Koussevitsky in 1924...The problem was that many in the audience who had seen the 1916 premiere swore that this was an entirely different concerto...It would be great if we could recover the 1916 score, but unfortunately it seems that it is irretrievably lost...
cheradinine8 2 days ago
I don't understand. That is all.
radudeATL 3 weeks ago
I just heard Gutierrez play. He is really incredible. Thanks
vortex481 1 month ago
@tcombs85, mostly it has to do with personal preference but the facts are that 1) it is the most difficult concerto technically, just compare how many performers played this and Rach's 3rd and you have the answer, especially the cadenza is ridiculous and you are there "naked" in front of the audience without an orchestra to cover any mistakes
georgypapa28 2 months ago
2) ranking behind? Why?
Because you might not be used to his sound? It was composed having in mind a friend who suicided. Probably having this in mind you might appreciate it and understand the concerto which (in my opinion) is the masterpiece of the 20th century's concertos
georgypapa28 2 months ago 6
The orchestra in Prokofiev concerto's is also very important and does not just acompany the performer, and finally (trust me) the more you listen to it the more you will enjoy it and appreciate.
georgypapa28 2 months ago
@georgypapa28 100% agree......this concerto is an absolute masterpiece....every time i hear it i discover something new......i think Rach piano concertos are all nursery tunes in comparison to this.....technically and emotionally unmatched....
mmaazz2 2 days ago
Just fantastic!
ars83yt 2 months ago
what the fuck man? this is fucking crazy
def3mno62 2 months ago
@def3mno62 Look in the mirror.The fuck man will be reflected in there.
0saki1siki 2 months ago
@0saki1siki uh what?
def3mno62 2 months ago
@0saki1siki LOL that is histerical
mikejr41387 2 months ago
At 3 past midnight it is VERY impressively
z3139720 3 months ago
This seems like the utmost demanding technical piece. However, it lacks the beauty, control, and otherworldy feeling that Rach 3 captures. It is pretty and at times exquisite but its theme is much less appealing that R3 and seems like it is tangential at times. All that said, this is definitely one of the most rediculously awesome pieces of music and performances of all time. IMHO, Id say this is the most difficult piece, but ranking behind Rach 3 and many other piano concertos overall.
tcombs85 3 months ago
@tcombs85 Remember, that is very subjective, and som think this is more appeling, like myself, even if I overall prefer Rachmaninovs music over prokofievs =)
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Ginastera's Piano Concerto No. 1 and Bartok's Piano Concerto No. 2 are considerably more difficult than either the Rachmaninov 3 or Prokofiev 2, so it's a bit moot. In fact, the expanded version of Tchaikovsky's Piano Concerto No. 2 is also more difficult than Rachmaninov's 3rd. Regarding concerti outside of the common (or quasi-common) repertoire, there are plenty that are more difficult than any of the ones listed above, as well.
35171julie 3 months ago
@tcombs85 Disagreed. Imagine, the cadenza in the first movement is not a cadenza actually... This concerto has captured a technique so demanding, and though it describes the image it wants to... So deeply inner it is, speaking of a suicide, so simple the three-note theme is on the contrary of the Rach 3, which is also one of my very favourite. No one is "Better", but they present different images in front of our eyes. I would say the same for Scriabin Concerto. Inner is the word.
8JustGoodMusic8 2 months ago 2
Too good
jhoward1957 4 months ago in playlist jhoward1957's favorites
Grandioso!
wnaenni 4 months ago 2
Too fast...
SSSLAWWWA 5 months ago 2
@SSSLAWWWA Nah, too slow.
Tuck213 4 months ago
The theme in the 1st movement is fantastic. That combined with the performance of a so gifted piano player, enchants you, so that you cannot help watch it. He plays the piece perfect. If I should compare this concerto with the other 4, I wouldn't hesitate saying, this is the best of them.
niels2260 5 months ago 2
wow... just amazing... BRAVO, BRAVO!!!! I love his performance especially 1st mov. I wish I could make powerful and deep sounds like him.
rhdprimavera 5 months ago 2
I miss having a piano to play :(
metaldude18 6 months ago
What's "depressing" about this concerto (purely from a technical point of view) is that most of the concerto is even more difficult than the cadenza!
This concerto, Rach 3 and Brahms 2 are the concertos that sort out the men from the boys and the women from the girls.
ukdavepianoman 6 months ago 6
@ukdavepianoman Seriously the rest is harder than the Cadenza?!
tjtheplay 2 weeks ago
@tjtheplay Yes ! Don't get me wrong...the cadenza is extremely difficult...but a lot of the concerto is even more difficult I think. The 2nd movement is very very tough, and the last movement is full of huge leaps. There are some passages that are easier but not many. Of course it all depends what a pianist finds difficult or not...
ukdavepianoman 2 weeks ago
@ukdavepianoman Ooooh I thought you were just talking about the first movement!
But yeah, I think the second and fourth movement are harder than the cadenza.
tjtheplay 2 weeks ago
@ukdavepianoman hmm...what about Bartok piano concerto no.1 and 2?
MozartK365 1 week ago
@MozartK365 I was just talking about different movements of this piece.
Not got scores for Bartok 1 and 2 so can't say. But I've heard Bartok PC 2 and it is tough.
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slightly fast for my taste, yet still played with such clarity and precision, so I'm not complaining! Please check out my performance of this piece on my channel if you have a chance!!
StinehartMusic 6 months ago
gorgeous!!!
FonPacific 8 months ago
bravissimo!!! love this performance!!
rhdprimavera 8 months ago
the 1st movement cadenza is insane! and i thought rach 3 sounded hard...
dommboi69 8 months ago
@dommboi69 And that's only the first movement. ;) The others are ridiculous, too.
OrangeSodaKing 8 months ago
There was a Bronfman Prok2 and no one told me?!!
MrYou2ber 9 months ago
@MrYou2ber
He's recorded them too. Ill send you em if you send me your email. It's incredible. And surprisingly better.
TheKeenanBoy 9 months ago
@MrYou2ber I was thinking the same thing. I NEVER GOT THE MEMO
LetTheMusicFlow1 8 months ago
I love Prokofiev's piano concertos so much!
ngpiano72 9 months ago
Thank you so much.
TheKeenanBoy 9 months ago
I am just getting to know him as a performer, and I love his playing!
davidbaker03 10 months ago