@Brandon71286 That is all I could find at the time, and needed to get it in. Plus in another 40 years, I'll probably be dead, and the cheap skate developer built tract house will probably be gone too.
This was the perfect solution to my problem. Because of the old plumbing, even when you turn the water off, it doesn't turn off completely, which made it hard to to fix. With the cartridge stuck in the pipe and the two prongs broke off AND the rubber seals on the cartridges rotting, we couldn't shut off the water completely after we shower. Thanks to your idea and demonstration, I sit here typing this knowing the faucet isn't leaking anymore. Thank you so much!!!!!!!!
Decent trick take an old cartridge and gut the stem out and use the stem housing as a removal tool .but i did enjoy watching you crank down on the ratchet like that .the sound of a compression nut and sleeve seating is the same !!!!! Music to my ears
Ok so here we are taking extreme measure to do a job that should be easy. Who's fault is that? Moens. The"engineer" that designed this needs to find some common sense.
I just had this problem and I sprayed the cartridge with extra strenth vinegar alternating with WD40 several times while rotating the cartridge using the plastic tool. It came right out!
@chicagirl51 You lucked out. Of the 4 cartridges I've replaced, only one came out relatively easy. The rest needed to be forced out by extreme measures. REMINDER TO ALL: You need to try all the less drastic methods first, before doing what's demonstated in this or the redux video!
Hey folks. I was one of the lucky ones on this endeavor. After reading about the crappy plastic removal tool that comes with the cartridge always breaking, my approach was to GENTLY apply pressure to the right for about 15-30 seconds, then to the left. You can sort of tell when the plastic is about to crack so just go slow with it. I sprayed CLR in the cartridge and pulled the valve back and forth. After about 3-5 min of this, it started to come free. I spun it about 20-30 times before pulling
Im laughing alread about him gonna tear the faucet outta the wall. But hes right. This is a crazy ordeal. Im letting penetrant sprayed on. the contraption overnight. Hope it pulls out in the morning. My back is hurting already from wrestling with it...
Im havin the same problems. A stuck cartridge. After seeing this video Im almost convinced to call and pay a plumber at this point. I sprayed around the cartridge with liquid wrench and gonna let it sit overnight. If it still wont come out im gonna call the plumber. Its crazy to have to go to such extremes as in this video!!!
This video was a godsend! I was trying to chisel the outer cartridge out with a screwdriver and a hammer after the core came out and left the outer part stuck in there. I too bought all those tools from Home Depot and just sheared the copper off. My wife found your video and it worked tremendously. Thank you once again!
I don't know if anyone else posted a comment on your tapping method, but you are supposed to go no more than 1/2 turn forward and then always 1/4 turn back to break the chip, otherwise, you are just loading up the tap. It doesn't matter whether you are tapping steel, brass, aluminum, always the same method. 1/2 forward, 1/4 back, 1/2 forward, 1/4 back, etc. Otherwise, thanks, and I hope you don't mind the input.
@uk7769 i wish i saw your video first. i used a no.6 easy out and it only spinned. I cant get it to pull out. it wont move past the point where the slot for the holding fork is. Its is damaged and put the core pin back with plumbers grease and its leaking out the faucet. do you have any ideas???? I can really use some right now THANKS
@stallion78 Did you remove the retaining clip? Is it being held by something else? Not sure. If the cartridge is spinning freely, you may have to pull hard, or pull and twist and the same time. Be careful not to damage the faucet body or damage the pipes. Did you see my other REDUX video on rigging a socket and using it as a puller? Works best.
@uk7769 Yes i removed the clip. I cant figure it out either but i need to get it out. Ill look for you video you mentioned. thanks. If you think of anything please let me know
@uk7769 I got a cartridge puller made by Danco that has a spring loaded knob that sits inside the hole at the back of the cartridge. And if you dont get the cartridge out, the tool wont come out. But after an hour and a half of pulling and spraying wd40 on it. i finally pulled it out. If you run across this problem I highly recommend it. Its brass and is tee shaped. Thanks for you vids
Amazing video, especially the retaining clip. If you don't know it's there it's really a problem. That part of the video was invaluable to me. Thanks so much for posting this. Cost me under $25 (including a new clip, which we broke, for $3.99. Quite a savings from what a plumber would have cost.
Thanks , Good instructions, and as you said last resort. This was well done, and I appreciate your help. I love youtube instructional videos they have helped me so many times. This was one of the better done one, so are pretty bad, and some are comic relief.
This is not your average cartridge problem on a moen faucet. Many of the faucets today are made of plastic.The brass cartridge is the older style and moen has changed the cartridge to plastic.I would not suggest attempting this for the average homeowner.When they said they would flip it around if the cold was on the left...all that is required is to turn the centre brass piece 180 degrees with a pair of pliers or crescent wrench...no need to shut the water off to do so.i have 30 plus yrs at this
I had an great experience changing the cartridge. I guess I didn't completely drain the water from the pipes so when I removed the cotter style top pin the old cartridge just came shooting out! I got a bit wet but hey!...I had a good laugh too!
IM going to be as nice as possibe but this guy is giving wrong advised take a from a service plumber when this enter stem breaks out there is a special tool that gets it out in seconds do it all the time it looks like a tee handle tool that at the end haS a spring looded notch that you push in and slide it into the reminder body of the moen cartridge all the way in and you turn and notch locks into body of old cartridge the you pull out left to right and comes right out....
@nathan12203 Appreciate the comment. Yes, everyone should attempt all less drastic measures BEFORE using the technique in this video. The T-tool you mention, and the special Moen puller tool did not work for 3 of the 4 cartridges I've replaced. The T-tool broke off, leaving pieces of the tool broken inside the cartridge. I was lucky to get the broken tool pieces out. This video is a LAST RESORT when all other methods have failed.
Hey uk , i am so glad i saw your video , i just had the EXACT same faucet . I went to Home Depot and bought the same puller you did and all it did was pull out the center piece . I had prevously gone to a plumbing store and the guy told me , instead of tapping it out , use and eas out tool if i had one big enough . I did and it worked PERFECTLY , oh and i also had sprayed some penetrating oil in there and let it sit for a while . I am done now , worked great , thanks so much !!
Thanks, my 1225B wasn't stuck but you gave some solid advice for someone that had only seen this done years ago. You saved my son and wife from a waterless morning! Cheers!
I found myself in this dilema yesterday. Stem came out - cartridge stayed in.
I sprayed the whole assembly with vinegar from a spray bottle. Let it soak an hour, threaded the 12mm x 1.75 tap in the cartridge. Threaded bolt and after the squeaks and squawks of the wrench the cartridge spun and was removed.
It took me longer to find a 12mm tap than it took to remove the stuck cartridge.
Thanks for this tip. It saved me a lot of heartache (and money).
My local hardware store (Dale Hardware, Fremont CA) makes a kit out of a tap and a wooden dowel peg. You place the peg down the hole insert the tap and twist. The action allows the wooden peg to place pressure at the base of the cartridge and it forces the cartridge out. Worked perfectly for me. A local plumber told me what I needed to get.
@ boardskin The $750.00 was an "ESTIMATE" to replace the entire valve system and tear away the wall. your mind is the only thing "simple" here. The plumber worked his ass off trying to correct this problem. Nowlifestarts has it right, ""cranking on the bolt with major torque to get it to twist is a bad idea." The bolt broke inside the cartridge, hence the five hour job. Besides, it's more the jackass who forgot to lubricate the cartridge when originally putting it in.
Boardskin, your the illiterate "ass-hat" The plumber was actually here for almost five hours. It would have been an hour if I had not followed this jackass technique.
Get a 1/2" tap. Tap it about an inch deep. Get a 3"x1/2" bolt. Put a socket over the bolt to make it work like a puller. I used a 21mm 3/4" drive socket I believe. Just use a size that will contact the outer portion of the brass pipe but allow the cartridge to fit in the inside of the socket .Put the bolt with socket over the shaft and screw it in. It will pull the cartridge out with little effort.. This cranking on the bolt with major torque to get it to twist is a bad idea.
Great video with solid directions and useful information. Thank you for posting. My local Home Depot did not have a 12 mm tap so I ended up finding it at an Autozone. Total repair ended up being ~$25 and 2 hours (excluding the time traveling back and forth to the stores).
Thanks, I am now screwed, no pund intended. I tried this process and the bolt is now broken in my faucet. I have received one estimate for $750.00 and am seeking another. Last time I'll trust a DIY video on youtube.
@mynameischet You didn't read the warning in the description, or listen to me when I said this is a LAST RESORT before having to replace the entire faucet? Your cartridge was stuck to begin with, so you are simply in the same boat as before, and haven't lost anything.
ALAS! I have the exact same issue from my 1979 built condo. The reason I need to replace it is b/c when I press the faucet in to shut off the shower or tub there is always some residual water still coming out. Cant quite get the tap to close. So I am going to try to remove the stem and clean it. If that doesn't work I will try to remove the whole cartridge and replace. Can someone tell me the type of stem or cartridge I need to buy? Home Depot or specialty plumbing store?
So glad i found this video. Although i haven't been able to acheive getting the stem out 1st. I've got 2 of those core pullers, but nothing will come out after pullin' on it. Roto Rooter wants $290 for cartridge replacement and $700 for valve replacement! Any advice on step one, just getn' the stem out? Pls help.
@Airwrek1 Hmm. I'm not sure. Of the two replacements I've done, the stem just pulled out easily with a pair of pliers. Can you adapt the core puller to pull against the faucet body, then use the the stem screw thread that the faucet handle attaches to? Or maybe put a small washer on using the faucet handle screw. Try holding some wood boards against the wall, enough to be about level with the stem/washer. Then use a hammer/nail puller to yank out the stem like you are pulling a nail out. ???
Did exactly what you said to do in the video. Had a catridge that was in there for 30 years. Once I tapped it and screwed in the bolt it turned in 4 rotations. Thanks!
great way of thinking outside of the box to get that cartridge out. i had a heck of a time pulling out my cartridge in my kitchen sink faucet, sometimes these how to videos make it look too easy when its because they are demonstrating on new piping, etc. which is not usually the case for everybody else. Nice to see someone working really hard to fix a realistic aged scenario of plumbing problems.
Thanks for reply. I did take the stem out. The inner diameter of the remaining part is far bigger than the tap and12 mm bolt I got. Is it possible that mine would be twice the inner diameter even though it looks just like the one you have in the vid?
Is the tap used to thread the hole at the end of the cartridge or the entire inside of the inner wall? My cartridge does not appear to have a hole at the end. Should I drill a hole in the end and then thread it?
@wkstewart I think you need to pull the stem out of the cartridge first. Then, that is the hole you tap. It's the inner wall of the cartridge. I tried to tap threads about an inch deep, but not all the way down the cartridge.
@fishermangc The first cartridge I replaced is still working great at one year with the Magic Lube. The one in the video is near a year old also, still working great. It certainly is optional to add more lube, just don't put too much. Very thin coating, and it shouldn't gum up. Can you elaborate on your experience?... if not Magic Lube, what would you recommend if anything?
Im a novice, so pardon if this is a dumb question: Why would my cold water pour out full blast but my hot water drip? I tested the hot water in the sink just to the left of the shower and it works. So, I am guessing that it has something to do with the Moen valve, possibly the pin.
@jmvoorhies I'm not sure. Have you removed the cartridge yet? I'd turn the water back off, and check the cartridge. Maybe turn it 180 degrees and put it back in. Then if the problem reverses, (hot water but no cold) you know its the cartridge. But again, I'm not a plumber. ???
@jmvoorhies Yea some times you can get a little trash stuck on the hot or cold side, but in some cases. The washer on the hot side will swell if the water heater is up to high and get stuck in on the hot side port. You will need to remove the cartridge to clean it out and get the rest of the washer out of the hole on the side left side of course. Good Luck PlumberX
Yea some times you can get a little trash stuck on the hot or cold side, but in some cases. The washer on the hot side will swell if the water heater is up to high and get stuck in on the hot side port. You will need to remove the cartridge to clean it out and get the rest of the washer out of the hole on the side left side of course. Good Luck PlumberX
Great Video. I had the same problem but was able to get the cartridge out by grabbing the ip of it with vice grips and yanking it straight out. Try that before going with the tap.
Fantastic tip. I was almost at this point and took my heat gun to it and it worked!!!! I might of got lucky but looks like the brass might of expanded just enough to allow me to pull out the cartridge.
Don't even try wd40 it will not get passed the front seal.
I just reattached the plastic handle and pulled the stem out and along came the cartridge...thing is I wasn't expecting this so a steady stream of water was flowing until I could run to the basement and close the valves. Informative video, just wish I found it last night!
There is actually a dedicated tool for this job which will be far easier for the novice. You'll probably have to go to a local plumbing supply house, as you won't find it at Depot or OSH. It's a Lincoln Products Cartridge Puller #107780; it's specifically made for Moen cartridges. It's a 2-way tool; the handle is notched for the front of the cartridge to turn it, and the extension has a pin that pops into the hole in the rear of the cartridge for pulling it out. <$20 for the tool.
@Moenboy1 Hey thanks for the info. I think that is the puller that I broke off inside the cartridge. When I returned it, I told the clerk, you may not want to put this back on the shelf. It was in pieces. :D
you saved me a lot of money and i love what you done for me, without this video i would have been so lost and out of money i didn't have. again thank you and god bless you
I was at my wits end trying to figure out what to do with this darn leaking faucet. I tried all sorts of things to get the guts out of the faucet. I pulled and pulled and pulled and finally the inner part came out. I got so mad that I put it back together and It stopped leaking but i want to put the new catridge that I bought into place. I am going to try it one lasttime tomorrow before I use the tap and use your technique. I really appreciate the help. You saved a plumbing bill.
Thank you for the great video. I was getting a drip from my 35+ year old shower faucet and followed your lead. Worked great. I used a 1/2 tap with course threads. Hardest part was getting the tap to start, so I ran the fine thread tap into the hole for one turn first. Then, the course thread worked like a charm. Ace had both the plastic and the brass replacement cartridge, I bought both, ended up using the brass one. Mine came loose a little easier than yours. Thanks again.
And the valve stem on my shower faucet won't come out either. I sprayed some penetrating oil in it and still nothing. I saw some other videos where they would take a pair of pliers and just pull on the stem and it would just slide right out. I already removed the C-clip. Should I just pull as hard as I can til it comes out? I don't want to break anything though... In order to do the tap method you used I need to get that stupid little thing out of there.
Yes, to cut the threads into the cartridge, you have to remove the inner stem first as seen in the video at about 0:30. For this faucet the stem came right out. For another one I repaired, the stem was very hard to pull out. But it did pull out using a pair of large pliers.
Great video. Having the same problem. What size tap did you use for this? I have the EXACT same faucet head. What size bolt would I need then to do everything exactly the way you did? I would appreciate any other advice you have. Thanks!
I used a 12mm/1.75 thread tap , and a matching 12mm diameter bolt, about 4 inches long. Other folks have had success using a 1/2 inch diameter tap and matching bolt.
This saved my bacon. He says 12 mm/1.75 tap size, but I used a 1/2"-13 tap-- fit perfect. Valve body actually started rotating before I finished tapping. Cost < $7.00 at Ace hardware. BEAUTIFUL!
That's great. Thanks for confirming the standard size works too. Now others will know that one too. For shits and giggles, I looked up the conversion 12mm = 0.4724409448824 inches. So about 3 hundredths of and inch or about 7 sheets of paper difference.
Great video - it helped me figure out what I was doing. However, my local Ace Hardware folks helped a great deal by loaning me a tool called an "easy out". The tool worked in about three minutes. Thanks - I couldn't do this without this video!
MIne wasn't stuck but I had never done a replacement on anything like this before. The video was very helpful at several stages, much more so than the pict-o-gram instructions that came with the new cartridge. Thanx much fellas.
SHIT !!!!!! Just do what my buddy did,,,,,....," steve lawson ".....with no commen sence >>>just use a sawzall to cut the WHOLE old stuck valve out & replace the tile an sweat anew $ 1200 valve kit in.....hhahahahahahah
LOL! Funny how those simple fix it jobs end up as complete remodelings. And you might like my idea for the next video: removing a stuck Moen cartridge with dynamite. hahaha!
now i'll be so thankful if anyone can help me to get a drain plug out of a waste and overflow tub drain ........ I remove the trip lever plate pull the overflow lever but the actual plug kept stuck in the T how can I pulled out... the drain is really old is hard to replace the waste and overflow ... back to back tubs........... thanks
no desrespect but there is a tool specially made for moen cartridges.......... made by plumbmaster ... is call una is a 4 piece tool kit ........ is a pulley and an expansion kit design to pull the cartridge slowly ... if it breaks the expansion tool goes inside the shaft you turn a bolt the tool expands inside the shatt creating friction against the brass and you turn back and forth slowly until you get it out check if out ........ i've been call to remove those cart.... after others fail
thanks for the comment. I tried several of the removal tools. Not sure the one you mentioned. The ones I tried all broke. If you have a link to the tool your are talking about, send it to me. I'd like to check it out.
Your video very helpful. Cartridge came out easily without tap. My cartridge looks exactly the same as the replacement one in the video. However, the only replacement I can find is a Moen 1225B which does not look like the one I am removing. ie like the one in your video. Why are they different.? and where can I get a cartridge just like yours. I went to Loews & the gave me the larger plactic one.. Thanks
I think they are interchangable. The Moen model 1200 brass cartridge I got at Home Depot for about $22. I think you can use the Moen 1225B plastic body cartridge but I haven't used it.
Thanks so much! I had a stuck moen shower cartridge that's probably been there at least 30 years! I watched your video -- Wow! What a public service! I did everything just like on your video, complete with squeeking sound effects as I turned the socket wrench! (The sound would have probably made me hesitate if I had not seen your video.) Great job on the video! Once again, thanks!
This was a huge help. I had a nearly identical cartridge that was stuck. Although I didn't use the same technique you did (the tool from the hardware store worked), I wouldn't have had any clue how to go about fixing my leaky faucet without your video. Thanks a lot for posting.
Very nice job guys, I am a plumber at a home center. You are going to make a lot of people very happy and over priced plumbers lonely. Again, great job!!
Fantastic tutorial. I searched all over the Internet for help fixing my old Moen Dialcet, and this was the best source. I relied on it to see what the cartridge looked like, and how to remove it. Nothing better than video and audio. Luckily, my cartridge came out whole. Thank you.
Thank you for posting this video. I just had the same problem......I was about to give up all hope and cave in and pay for a plumber to fix it......after I saw your video, I borrowed my neighbors "tap" and a bolt......5 minutes later...my old cartridge was out and new one in.......THANK YOU!!
So after all that trouble getting the 1200 cartridge out, you are going to reinstall another one, instead of the 1225...
Brandon71286 1 day ago
@Brandon71286 That is all I could find at the time, and needed to get it in. Plus in another 40 years, I'll probably be dead, and the cheap skate developer built tract house will probably be gone too.
uk7769 1 day ago
This was the perfect solution to my problem. Because of the old plumbing, even when you turn the water off, it doesn't turn off completely, which made it hard to to fix. With the cartridge stuck in the pipe and the two prongs broke off AND the rubber seals on the cartridges rotting, we couldn't shut off the water completely after we shower. Thanks to your idea and demonstration, I sit here typing this knowing the faucet isn't leaking anymore. Thank you so much!!!!!!!!
calicojackflag13 2 weeks ago
All the faucets in my home are Moen (7) and I have used the vinegar and WD40 method on all of them to remove the cartridges with no problems.
chicagirl51 2 months ago
Check out my tub drain removal digusting troll hair will make you laugh i bet!!!
Jupitermustangmike 2 months ago
Decent trick take an old cartridge and gut the stem out and use the stem housing as a removal tool .but i did enjoy watching you crank down on the ratchet like that .the sound of a compression nut and sleeve seating is the same !!!!! Music to my ears
Jupitermustangmike 2 months ago
Ok so here we are taking extreme measure to do a job that should be easy. Who's fault is that? Moens. The"engineer" that designed this needs to find some common sense.
armp1tha1r 2 months ago
I just had this problem and I sprayed the cartridge with extra strenth vinegar alternating with WD40 several times while rotating the cartridge using the plastic tool. It came right out!
chicagirl51 2 months ago
@chicagirl51 You lucked out. Of the 4 cartridges I've replaced, only one came out relatively easy. The rest needed to be forced out by extreme measures. REMINDER TO ALL: You need to try all the less drastic methods first, before doing what's demonstated in this or the redux video!
uk7769 2 months ago
Hey folks. I was one of the lucky ones on this endeavor. After reading about the crappy plastic removal tool that comes with the cartridge always breaking, my approach was to GENTLY apply pressure to the right for about 15-30 seconds, then to the left. You can sort of tell when the plastic is about to crack so just go slow with it. I sprayed CLR in the cartridge and pulled the valve back and forth. After about 3-5 min of this, it started to come free. I spun it about 20-30 times before pulling
silo6media 3 months ago
Im laughing alread about him gonna tear the faucet outta the wall. But hes right. This is a crazy ordeal. Im letting penetrant sprayed on. the contraption overnight. Hope it pulls out in the morning. My back is hurting already from wrestling with it...
TheKerryzzz 3 months ago
Im havin the same problems. A stuck cartridge. After seeing this video Im almost convinced to call and pay a plumber at this point. I sprayed around the cartridge with liquid wrench and gonna let it sit overnight. If it still wont come out im gonna call the plumber. Its crazy to have to go to such extremes as in this video!!!
TheKerryzzz 3 months ago
This video was a godsend! I was trying to chisel the outer cartridge out with a screwdriver and a hammer after the core came out and left the outer part stuck in there. I too bought all those tools from Home Depot and just sheared the copper off. My wife found your video and it worked tremendously. Thank you once again!
aangrydad742 6 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
I don't know if anyone else posted a comment on your tapping method, but you are supposed to go no more than 1/2 turn forward and then always 1/4 turn back to break the chip, otherwise, you are just loading up the tap. It doesn't matter whether you are tapping steel, brass, aluminum, always the same method. 1/2 forward, 1/4 back, 1/2 forward, 1/4 back, etc. Otherwise, thanks, and I hope you don't mind the input.
gmyatko 6 months ago
Comment removed
gmyatko 6 months ago
Thank you, very helpful
ScoobyDaBez14 7 months ago
@uk7769 i wish i saw your video first. i used a no.6 easy out and it only spinned. I cant get it to pull out. it wont move past the point where the slot for the holding fork is. Its is damaged and put the core pin back with plumbers grease and its leaking out the faucet. do you have any ideas???? I can really use some right now THANKS
stallion78 7 months ago
@stallion78 Did you remove the retaining clip? Is it being held by something else? Not sure. If the cartridge is spinning freely, you may have to pull hard, or pull and twist and the same time. Be careful not to damage the faucet body or damage the pipes. Did you see my other REDUX video on rigging a socket and using it as a puller? Works best.
uk7769 7 months ago
@uk7769 Yes i removed the clip. I cant figure it out either but i need to get it out. Ill look for you video you mentioned. thanks. If you think of anything please let me know
stallion78 7 months ago
@uk7769 I got a cartridge puller made by Danco that has a spring loaded knob that sits inside the hole at the back of the cartridge. And if you dont get the cartridge out, the tool wont come out. But after an hour and a half of pulling and spraying wd40 on it. i finally pulled it out. If you run across this problem I highly recommend it. Its brass and is tee shaped. Thanks for you vids
stallion78 7 months ago
@stallion78 I just did this and it worked like a champ! Thanks for the tip.
bobnewell907 3 months ago
Amazing video, especially the retaining clip. If you don't know it's there it's really a problem. That part of the video was invaluable to me. Thanks so much for posting this. Cost me under $25 (including a new clip, which we broke, for $3.99. Quite a savings from what a plumber would have cost.
Suzann11111 7 months ago
Thanks , Good instructions, and as you said last resort. This was well done, and I appreciate your help. I love youtube instructional videos they have helped me so many times. This was one of the better done one, so are pretty bad, and some are comic relief.
genelawdog 9 months ago
good video, but to long. This could have been shorteened by 4 min with good editing
vikings844 11 months ago
OMG! THANK YOU SO MUCH for making this video!!!! Helped us out TREMENDOUSLY! You rock man!
kshufe01 11 months ago
This is not your average cartridge problem on a moen faucet. Many of the faucets today are made of plastic.The brass cartridge is the older style and moen has changed the cartridge to plastic.I would not suggest attempting this for the average homeowner.When they said they would flip it around if the cold was on the left...all that is required is to turn the centre brass piece 180 degrees with a pair of pliers or crescent wrench...no need to shut the water off to do so.i have 30 plus yrs at this
TheOldkid888 1 year ago
thank you uk7769 your video helped me with my shower repair !
2Haloandback 1 year ago
I had an great experience changing the cartridge. I guess I didn't completely drain the water from the pipes so when I removed the cotter style top pin the old cartridge just came shooting out! I got a bit wet but hey!...I had a good laugh too!
hankette100 1 year ago
The cartridge on our faucet isn't stuck but, since I've never changed one, your video was really helpful on getting an idea. Thanks for the vid post.
cman6983 1 year ago
Thanks killer video!
Jamieinchains 1 year ago
After all the attempts, including the T tool, I used this method and it worked like a charm!!!! THANK YOU
Pescado1956 1 year ago
IM going to be as nice as possibe but this guy is giving wrong advised take a from a service plumber when this enter stem breaks out there is a special tool that gets it out in seconds do it all the time it looks like a tee handle tool that at the end haS a spring looded notch that you push in and slide it into the reminder body of the moen cartridge all the way in and you turn and notch locks into body of old cartridge the you pull out left to right and comes right out....
nathan12203 1 year ago
@nathan12203 Appreciate the comment. Yes, everyone should attempt all less drastic measures BEFORE using the technique in this video. The T-tool you mention, and the special Moen puller tool did not work for 3 of the 4 cartridges I've replaced. The T-tool broke off, leaving pieces of the tool broken inside the cartridge. I was lucky to get the broken tool pieces out. This video is a LAST RESORT when all other methods have failed.
uk7769 6 months ago
Hey uk , i am so glad i saw your video , i just had the EXACT same faucet . I went to Home Depot and bought the same puller you did and all it did was pull out the center piece . I had prevously gone to a plumbing store and the guy told me , instead of tapping it out , use and eas out tool if i had one big enough . I did and it worked PERFECTLY , oh and i also had sprayed some penetrating oil in there and let it sit for a while . I am done now , worked great , thanks so much !!
Dudelift
dudelift 1 year ago
@dudelift Nice. I've had other comments saying the easy out works too. But have to find one big enough like you said.
uk7769 1 year ago
Thanks, my 1225B wasn't stuck but you gave some solid advice for someone that had only seen this done years ago. You saved my son and wife from a waterless morning! Cheers!
TorontoSwede 1 year ago
I found myself in this dilema yesterday. Stem came out - cartridge stayed in.
I sprayed the whole assembly with vinegar from a spray bottle. Let it soak an hour, threaded the 12mm x 1.75 tap in the cartridge. Threaded bolt and after the squeaks and squawks of the wrench the cartridge spun and was removed.
It took me longer to find a 12mm tap than it took to remove the stuck cartridge.
Thanks for this tip. It saved me a lot of heartache (and money).
rdodoc 1 year ago
My local hardware store (Dale Hardware, Fremont CA) makes a kit out of a tap and a wooden dowel peg. You place the peg down the hole insert the tap and twist. The action allows the wooden peg to place pressure at the base of the cartridge and it forces the cartridge out. Worked perfectly for me. A local plumber told me what I needed to get.
bjensen5 1 year ago
YOU da MAN!
skin2skin821 1 year ago
@ boardskin The $750.00 was an "ESTIMATE" to replace the entire valve system and tear away the wall. your mind is the only thing "simple" here. The plumber worked his ass off trying to correct this problem. Nowlifestarts has it right, ""cranking on the bolt with major torque to get it to twist is a bad idea." The bolt broke inside the cartridge, hence the five hour job. Besides, it's more the jackass who forgot to lubricate the cartridge when originally putting it in.
mynameischet 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Boardskin, your the illiterate "ass-hat" The plumber was actually here for almost five hours. It would have been an hour if I had not followed this jackass technique.
mynameischet 1 year ago
Comment removed
mynameischet 1 year ago
you really are my hero. thanks for posting this video! MAN you saved me!!!!!!! you rock!!!
alatin04u 1 year ago
Get a 1/2" tap. Tap it about an inch deep. Get a 3"x1/2" bolt. Put a socket over the bolt to make it work like a puller. I used a 21mm 3/4" drive socket I believe. Just use a size that will contact the outer portion of the brass pipe but allow the cartridge to fit in the inside of the socket .Put the bolt with socket over the shaft and screw it in. It will pull the cartridge out with little effort.. This cranking on the bolt with major torque to get it to twist is a bad idea.
NowLifeStarts 1 year ago 5
@NowLifeStarts You are absolutely right. I created a new video using your idea. Much better and easier. Thanks!
uk7769 1 year ago
Great video with solid directions and useful information. Thank you for posting. My local Home Depot did not have a 12 mm tap so I ended up finding it at an Autozone. Total repair ended up being ~$25 and 2 hours (excluding the time traveling back and forth to the stores).
suitohair 1 year ago
Thanks, I am now screwed, no pund intended. I tried this process and the bolt is now broken in my faucet. I have received one estimate for $750.00 and am seeking another. Last time I'll trust a DIY video on youtube.
mynameischet 1 year ago
@mynameischet You didn't read the warning in the description, or listen to me when I said this is a LAST RESORT before having to replace the entire faucet? Your cartridge was stuck to begin with, so you are simply in the same boat as before, and haven't lost anything.
uk7769 1 year ago 7
@mynameischet You're an ass-hat if you pay a plumber $750.00 for a simple one hour job!!!!
boardskins 1 year ago
another great product to check out is the speedyvalve by floodmaster. It makes jobs real easy. I think they have a video on you tube
SuperMichaelblake 1 year ago
ALAS! I have the exact same issue from my 1979 built condo. The reason I need to replace it is b/c when I press the faucet in to shut off the shower or tub there is always some residual water still coming out. Cant quite get the tap to close. So I am going to try to remove the stem and clean it. If that doesn't work I will try to remove the whole cartridge and replace. Can someone tell me the type of stem or cartridge I need to buy? Home Depot or specialty plumbing store?
drjsteinberg 1 year ago
So glad i found this video. Although i haven't been able to acheive getting the stem out 1st. I've got 2 of those core pullers, but nothing will come out after pullin' on it. Roto Rooter wants $290 for cartridge replacement and $700 for valve replacement! Any advice on step one, just getn' the stem out? Pls help.
Airwrek1 1 year ago
@Airwrek1 Hmm. I'm not sure. Of the two replacements I've done, the stem just pulled out easily with a pair of pliers. Can you adapt the core puller to pull against the faucet body, then use the the stem screw thread that the faucet handle attaches to? Or maybe put a small washer on using the faucet handle screw. Try holding some wood boards against the wall, enough to be about level with the stem/washer. Then use a hammer/nail puller to yank out the stem like you are pulling a nail out. ???
uk7769 1 year ago
Did exactly what you said to do in the video. Had a catridge that was in there for 30 years. Once I tapped it and screwed in the bolt it turned in 4 rotations. Thanks!
JerrelGuerra 1 year ago
great way of thinking outside of the box to get that cartridge out. i had a heck of a time pulling out my cartridge in my kitchen sink faucet, sometimes these how to videos make it look too easy when its because they are demonstrating on new piping, etc. which is not usually the case for everybody else. Nice to see someone working really hard to fix a realistic aged scenario of plumbing problems.
FANtomCore 1 year ago
Thanks for reply. I did take the stem out. The inner diameter of the remaining part is far bigger than the tap and12 mm bolt I got. Is it possible that mine would be twice the inner diameter even though it looks just like the one you have in the vid?
wkstewart 1 year ago
My faucet only allows hot water when I turn it on. Can anyone help me to figure out what is wrong and to fix it???
rohawk1956 1 year ago
Is the tap used to thread the hole at the end of the cartridge or the entire inside of the inner wall? My cartridge does not appear to have a hole at the end. Should I drill a hole in the end and then thread it?
wkstewart 1 year ago
@wkstewart I think you need to pull the stem out of the cartridge first. Then, that is the hole you tap. It's the inner wall of the cartridge. I tried to tap threads about an inch deep, but not all the way down the cartridge.
uk7769 1 year ago
Do not use Magic Lube. Over a short time the cartridge will gum up and the handle will be hard to move.
fishermangc 1 year ago
@fishermangc The first cartridge I replaced is still working great at one year with the Magic Lube. The one in the video is near a year old also, still working great. It certainly is optional to add more lube, just don't put too much. Very thin coating, and it shouldn't gum up. Can you elaborate on your experience?... if not Magic Lube, what would you recommend if anything?
uk7769 1 year ago
Very good video. Great job.
plumberx 1 year ago
Very good video. Great job.
plumberx 1 year ago
good job, most mortals would have called the plumber and wrote a very big check
snelsonxxx 1 year ago
Im a novice, so pardon if this is a dumb question: Why would my cold water pour out full blast but my hot water drip? I tested the hot water in the sink just to the left of the shower and it works. So, I am guessing that it has something to do with the Moen valve, possibly the pin.
jmvoorhies 1 year ago
@jmvoorhies I'm not sure. Have you removed the cartridge yet? I'd turn the water back off, and check the cartridge. Maybe turn it 180 degrees and put it back in. Then if the problem reverses, (hot water but no cold) you know its the cartridge. But again, I'm not a plumber. ???
uk7769 1 year ago
@jmvoorhies Yea some times you can get a little trash stuck on the hot or cold side, but in some cases. The washer on the hot side will swell if the water heater is up to high and get stuck in on the hot side port. You will need to remove the cartridge to clean it out and get the rest of the washer out of the hole on the side left side of course. Good Luck PlumberX
plumberx 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Yea some times you can get a little trash stuck on the hot or cold side, but in some cases. The washer on the hot side will swell if the water heater is up to high and get stuck in on the hot side port. You will need to remove the cartridge to clean it out and get the rest of the washer out of the hole on the side left side of course. Good Luck PlumberX
plumberx 1 year ago
Great Video. I had the same problem but was able to get the cartridge out by grabbing the ip of it with vice grips and yanking it straight out. Try that before going with the tap.
waxward 1 year ago
@waxward Good point. Absolutely try all other methods before using the destructive and potentially disastrous 'tap method'.
uk7769 1 year ago
Now, I know what to do when the piece gets stuck or breaks! if only it could be as easy as the one in the video.
jimmyjamzit1 1 year ago
Fantastic tip. I was almost at this point and took my heat gun to it and it worked!!!! I might of got lucky but looks like the brass might of expanded just enough to allow me to pull out the cartridge.
Don't even try wd40 it will not get passed the front seal.
ballafishxxx 1 year ago
Thank you for taking the time to make this video. I found it extremely helpful.
Understanding what was involvled made this a very easy process!
A+++++
IndyMotoBoy 1 year ago
I just reattached the plastic handle and pulled the stem out and along came the cartridge...thing is I wasn't expecting this so a steady stream of water was flowing until I could run to the basement and close the valves. Informative video, just wish I found it last night!
TheSmokin234 1 year ago
There is actually a dedicated tool for this job which will be far easier for the novice. You'll probably have to go to a local plumbing supply house, as you won't find it at Depot or OSH. It's a Lincoln Products Cartridge Puller #107780; it's specifically made for Moen cartridges. It's a 2-way tool; the handle is notched for the front of the cartridge to turn it, and the extension has a pin that pops into the hole in the rear of the cartridge for pulling it out. <$20 for the tool.
Moenboy1 1 year ago
@Moenboy1 Hey thanks for the info. I think that is the puller that I broke off inside the cartridge. When I returned it, I told the clerk, you may not want to put this back on the shelf. It was in pieces. :D
uk7769 1 year ago
you saved me a lot of money and i love what you done for me, without this video i would have been so lost and out of money i didn't have. again thank you and god bless you
weepee64 1 year ago
@weepee64 I'm so glad this helped you and all my trouble and frustration wasn't for nothing. Glad you save the cash too. Hang in there.
uk7769 1 year ago
Worked like a charm. Thanks for the tip!!!
mronp 1 year ago
wow thats a lot of work to replace a cartilage I think I am going to stick with a leaking bath tub faucet. lol
cpv6 1 year ago
ive had many of those moments 6:46 whew!!!!!!!!!!
roberge32 1 year ago
big thanks,my faucet is 4yrs and already no hot water.
PAMAROSHOUSE 1 year ago
THANK YOU!!! I would have never thought of the tap/bolt idea! 5 STARS!!!!
DerthDeboblo 1 year ago
I was at my wits end trying to figure out what to do with this darn leaking faucet. I tried all sorts of things to get the guts out of the faucet. I pulled and pulled and pulled and finally the inner part came out. I got so mad that I put it back together and It stopped leaking but i want to put the new catridge that I bought into place. I am going to try it one lasttime tomorrow before I use the tap and use your technique. I really appreciate the help. You saved a plumbing bill.
Touchdown1212 1 year ago
Thank you for the great video. I was getting a drip from my 35+ year old shower faucet and followed your lead. Worked great. I used a 1/2 tap with course threads. Hardest part was getting the tap to start, so I ran the fine thread tap into the hole for one turn first. Then, the course thread worked like a charm. Ace had both the plastic and the brass replacement cartridge, I bought both, ended up using the brass one. Mine came loose a little easier than yours. Thanks again.
klanker70 1 year ago
And the valve stem on my shower faucet won't come out either. I sprayed some penetrating oil in it and still nothing. I saw some other videos where they would take a pair of pliers and just pull on the stem and it would just slide right out. I already removed the C-clip. Should I just pull as hard as I can til it comes out? I don't want to break anything though... In order to do the tap method you used I need to get that stupid little thing out of there.
joshgrami 1 year ago
Yes, to cut the threads into the cartridge, you have to remove the inner stem first as seen in the video at about 0:30. For this faucet the stem came right out. For another one I repaired, the stem was very hard to pull out. But it did pull out using a pair of large pliers.
uk7769 1 year ago
I took a heat gun to mine and it worked fine! I might of got lucky but you might want to give it a try before the tap procedure.
ballafishxxx 1 year ago
Great video. Having the same problem. What size tap did you use for this? I have the EXACT same faucet head. What size bolt would I need then to do everything exactly the way you did? I would appreciate any other advice you have. Thanks!
joshgrami 1 year ago
I used a 12mm/1.75 thread tap , and a matching 12mm diameter bolt, about 4 inches long. Other folks have had success using a 1/2 inch diameter tap and matching bolt.
uk7769 1 year ago
Thanks for video. It was very good and detailed. You save from calling a plumber
DJ050298 2 years ago
The Ace Hardware guys helped me out by letting me borrow a #6 Easy Out bit.
TheTessTube 2 years ago
This saved my bacon. He says 12 mm/1.75 tap size, but I used a 1/2"-13 tap-- fit perfect. Valve body actually started rotating before I finished tapping. Cost < $7.00 at Ace hardware. BEAUTIFUL!
tedban1 2 years ago
That's great. Thanks for confirming the standard size works too. Now others will know that one too. For shits and giggles, I looked up the conversion 12mm = 0.4724409448824 inches. So about 3 hundredths of and inch or about 7 sheets of paper difference.
uk7769 2 years ago
Great video - it helped me figure out what I was doing. However, my local Ace Hardware folks helped a great deal by loaning me a tool called an "easy out". The tool worked in about three minutes. Thanks - I couldn't do this without this video!
TheTessTube 2 years ago
That's cool that Ace loaned you an easy out. Do you remember what number/size it was you used?
uk7769 2 years ago
This worked perfect for me and I am not handy in the least bit.
DJNMusicStudio 2 years ago
I have a tip to add. Cover the drain until the job is done. The little clip or other small parts can fall in the drain hole.
elvisjonesus 2 years ago
That is a good tip. I do just that by habit, so I didn't even think to mention it.
uk7769 2 years ago
MIne wasn't stuck but I had never done a replacement on anything like this before. The video was very helpful at several stages, much more so than the pict-o-gram instructions that came with the new cartridge. Thanx much fellas.
doctortabby 2 years ago
SHIT !!!!!! Just do what my buddy did,,,,,....," steve lawson ".....with no commen sence >>>just use a sawzall to cut the WHOLE old stuck valve out & replace the tile an sweat anew $ 1200 valve kit in.....hhahahahahahah
f1rusher 2 years ago
LOL! Funny how those simple fix it jobs end up as complete remodelings. And you might like my idea for the next video: removing a stuck Moen cartridge with dynamite. hahaha!
uk7769 2 years ago
Just wondering I have frozen handles is there a way to get the frozen handles off with out breaking the pipe??
Great video's
scaryfrogs2u2 2 years ago
just had the same problem.. good thing i got it 2 come out without resorting 2 that
Watchaknow702 2 years ago
can you weld the bolt to a slide hammer adapter? Then you could heat the valve body and start "tapping" on the slide hammer....
easyhec 2 years ago
OMG people thank u so much !!! U BEST !!!!
AvA26REG 2 years ago
I did exactly what you guy's did in the video
and everything worked out as it showed. Thank you for posting that video.. You guy's are life saver
85rammer 2 years ago
Thanks Guy's
This video was very helpful and informative.
Awesome Job! couldn't done it without your video
85rammer 2 years ago
now i'll be so thankful if anyone can help me to get a drain plug out of a waste and overflow tub drain ........ I remove the trip lever plate pull the overflow lever but the actual plug kept stuck in the T how can I pulled out... the drain is really old is hard to replace the waste and overflow ... back to back tubs........... thanks
noloseya 2 years ago
no desrespect but there is a tool specially made for moen cartridges.......... made by plumbmaster ... is call una is a 4 piece tool kit ........ is a pulley and an expansion kit design to pull the cartridge slowly ... if it breaks the expansion tool goes inside the shaft you turn a bolt the tool expands inside the shatt creating friction against the brass and you turn back and forth slowly until you get it out check if out ........ i've been call to remove those cart.... after others fail
noloseya 2 years ago
thanks for the comment. I tried several of the removal tools. Not sure the one you mentioned. The ones I tried all broke. If you have a link to the tool your are talking about, send it to me. I'd like to check it out.
uk7769 2 years ago
Thanks for posting this I know it will be helpful to many folks.
yakdung 2 years ago
Great video UK!! Sounds like a Velociraptor from Jurrassic Park when you're torquing the bolt to get the cartridge to move.
WHVN3S 2 years ago
thanks this helped and actually worked
hiimhop 2 years ago
Your video very helpful. Cartridge came out easily without tap. My cartridge looks exactly the same as the replacement one in the video. However, the only replacement I can find is a Moen 1225B which does not look like the one I am removing. ie like the one in your video. Why are they different.? and where can I get a cartridge just like yours. I went to Loews & the gave me the larger plactic one.. Thanks
honaw1 2 years ago
I think they are interchangable. The Moen model 1200 brass cartridge I got at Home Depot for about $22. I think you can use the Moen 1225B plastic body cartridge but I haven't used it.
uk7769 2 years ago
Thanks so much! I had a stuck moen shower cartridge that's probably been there at least 30 years! I watched your video -- Wow! What a public service! I did everything just like on your video, complete with squeeking sound effects as I turned the socket wrench! (The sound would have probably made me hesitate if I had not seen your video.) Great job on the video! Once again, thanks!
jim760 2 years ago
This was a huge help. I had a nearly identical cartridge that was stuck. Although I didn't use the same technique you did (the tool from the hardware store worked), I wouldn't have had any clue how to go about fixing my leaky faucet without your video. Thanks a lot for posting.
flopperstopper406 2 years ago
Thanks ! Glad you got-er-done.
uk7769 2 years ago
Very nice job guys, I am a plumber at a home center. You are going to make a lot of people very happy and over priced plumbers lonely. Again, great job!!
gcm2319 2 years ago
Fantastic tutorial. I searched all over the Internet for help fixing my old Moen Dialcet, and this was the best source. I relied on it to see what the cartridge looked like, and how to remove it. Nothing better than video and audio. Luckily, my cartridge came out whole. Thank you.
oaklandrob 2 years ago
Thanks for the comment.
uk7769 2 years ago
Thank you for posting this video. I just had the same problem......I was about to give up all hope and cave in and pay for a plumber to fix it......after I saw your video, I borrowed my neighbors "tap" and a bolt......5 minutes later...my old cartridge was out and new one in.......THANK YOU!!
aaronpf1984 2 years ago
Thanks for commenting! Glad it worked for you too.
uk7769 2 years ago