PA34 SENECA - LANDING AT BIGGIN HILL - GEAR FAILURE

[duyan2211]

Congratulation!

[Boss1186]

how much time can you fly with this??at which speed??

[davetherave7]

Enjoyed this video, especially the "Trying to shake it loose" manouver. Glad all ended well and not often a steady position found for the camera AND quality picture.

[zanfozanfani]

AHAHAHA did you drive with gloves?? ahahahahah

[airukvirtual]

Lol "attempting to shake it loose" (when in doubt, shake it)

[titanious3]

Awsome vid. These videos teach us alot about handeling cases like thise.

[taylormadejoe]

Textbook!

[blink882]

is that the stall horn goin off whill ur bankin like a mad thing?

[CaptainBergs]

@blink882 yes, it is, in a piper, the gears are held up via hydraulic pressure. in regular gear deployment, that pressure is reduced so the gears drop gently, in this case, its not workin, so at low air speeds(best chance for a proper gear deployment) it will be easier to shake the gear into proper position or if needed, dump the hydraulic pressure(if it has a emergency gear extender), and the gears will freefall and lock into position.

[globalste]

gloves is a Royal Air Force thing

[danmack6872]

Good video. Interesting thing is I flew a Seneca a few days ago and encountered the same exact problem. Noticed on base that there were not 3 green and the gear unsafe light was on. The Seneca a fly has a mirrir by the left engine naecelle, so you can see if the nose gear is down, which it was not extended. Checked circuit breakers, all were pushed in, then pitched and yawed the aircraft for a few seconds while on final and gear came right down.

[CaptainBergs]

@danmack6872 did u try to put the gear down at a too high of an airspeed? or figure out what was wrong?

[danmack6872]

@CaptainBergs I was doing about 115 or 120 MPH when I tried extending the 1st time, which is belwo the max speed for gear extension. It was a pretty cold day when I flew and rthought maybe the uplocks were frozn or something. Maintenance checked into it the next morning and turns out the hydraulic fluid was low. You raised an interesting question to me about being too fast. I wasn't aware the gear in the Seneca would not extend due to being too fast..maybe snap off

[CaptainBergs]

@danmack6872 idk if itl snap off, u could damage it i guess, depends on how much faster than the gear extend speed you would be if u tried it. in the arrow its 130 or below for deployment, 109 or below for retract, 130 probly just cuz the greatly increase in drag, and 109 cuz any faster could slam the nose gear up too fast and damage it. up locks? arent they held up by hudraulic pressure, then when deployed they lock down via the "down locks"? maybe there are up locks as well, idk for sure.

[howdycaptain63]

Interesting vid. But two questions...why the gloves and why wasnt the mixture on full?

[macsolly]

The mixture is fully rich, you can see the pilot check twice before the go-around. As for the gloves, I don't know. I have flown with a number of pilots who like to wear gloves.

[Cat10980]

@macsolly Gloves for a few reasons which differ from pilot to pilot. Personally I wear them in winter to stop my hands getting too cold-the heating in light aircraft isn't always great. Some people wear them because they offer protection in case of a cockpit fire so that you can still control the aircraft. Some wear them so they don't have to touch controls everyone else has touched-diseases and all that. Others so they are not sweating onto the controls in summer-it varies.

[ChrizRockster]

@howdycaptain63

Because AvGas stinks lol! 8o) A windy fuel drain check and you stink for the whole flight! lol.

[gilz16]

very nice.

[pappy10001]

That sure is a scary feeling huh?

[ukv1290]

Good job!

[maelcall]

Very nice vid..glad it turned out ok.