ya know what it dosent matter what class you are someone will alway QQ about how op they are and the only reson they are op to that one person is because they dont have any skill and always get pwned by that class.
Funny how everybody QQ's bout ret pallys now. But back in BC when we were LOLRET nobody cried. Now that they can compete with all the OP class *cough* Rogues, *cough* Mages, all you hear is people complain. OH NOES! The ret pally wtf pawned me! Blizz nerf nerf them plz! Just shut the hell up and live with it. Maybe even take time out to try and learn how to beat a ret pally now that they don't just lay down and die for you. Its called plotting lil bit of strategy and having a lil bit of skill.
ummmmm lol, ret palas have always been op, well shammies were more pre TBC but in BC they were op, crusader strike judgment of light, heal! ohes noes only 1/4 of my hp left!!!! better bubble and heal!, dont tell me they werent op
1: Make Stun #1 Crusader strike #2 Divine Storm #3 Judgement of anything #4 and go 1,2,3,4,2,3,4,2,3,4,2,3,4 and then roll your face on the keyboard and hit 2200
I play a holyadin retadin and protadin. I have 2500 2s running ret ret. so faceroll I love the people who gave me thumbs down. such retards. I am not QQ'ing but it's sooo true
ok i play ret with my frost mage buddy and we do 9-1 avrage unless we face a team with DK only DK combo we have been able to bea is DK/Rogue how the hell do you kill them??
i seemed to have a similar problem with dk, rogue because they cant be beaten in an endurance fight, best way me and my partner beat them was to bury the rogue first and keep the dk constantly slowed down, frozen, stunned and we took out his pet first
never try to nuke an unholy dk first cause his bone shield with frost pressence will make you do 0 dmg
I play a warlock a nd druid! Warlock 75 and druid is 72! I got to say that the Dks are the most OP class at the moment! They have too many tools, too much dps and they have plate!
too bad ret pally is going to get nerfed, everyone knows it, even 70 paladins on my server say there was never a chance of it following through in lich king
We are receiving PvP compensation, however, likely as the 11 pt Prot talent, and hopefully before the end of beta so I can test it out.
And I know I haven't been making many videos lately; frankly, nothing interesting has happened, except for a crappy Naxx run I did which was so bad I decided to delete the videos.
If there are no more updates, assuming I'm at home and awake for it, I will record the finale for the beta event.
I can still beat rets, but now it's extremely hard and no mistakes can be made, while the ret is still allowed to make mistakes and win because of the amazing burst and anti stunlock abilities. The mana regeneration is also amazing, but it's getting nerfed in 3.03.
Burst is not amazing, it's similar if not less than other classes. Our mana regeneration is extremely horrible now. In PvP, I don't know how you can do anything but DPS. Against mana burners, I don't see how you can do anything. Retribution cannot stunlock.
Rofl mana burners. That stuff doesn't work now because you can regenerate 100% of your mana in 10 seconds. It's a good thing blizzard is nerfing it in 3.03. Maybe you specced like a retard and didn't pick up judgement of the wise. At 80, with the right talents, HoJ is a 20 second cooldown. You're doing something terribly wrong if you are getting outbursted by anything except a mutilate rogue, which has nearly no mobility. You have ranged gouge, judgement of justice, and Hand of Freedom.
Uh, no it doesn't, it only returns 15% base mana, which is actually a net gain of 10% base mana because Judgements cost 5% base mana.
Stop playing on live, play a Paladin, then speak. Til then, shut up because you don't know what you're talking about. I wouldn't defend an overpowered class.
Just to let you know that I play every class at, near, or above 70 besides a Druid and Warlock.
oo, an unholy Death Knight haha, the look funny in goul form XD but one question, when they die and become an ghoul, will that mean they are undead and able to be feared with Turn Evil (i'm a holy paladin and am gonna make an unholy DK...talk about bein on both ends of the spectrum)
Yes they are overpowered. Yes I do play the beta. I play as a S4 geared rogue and am in a guild called BRUTL GLAD KILLRS. I have specced mutilate and shadow dance. I was dueling someone who was my partner in 2s in Season 3(ShS Rogue + Ret paladin). I can tell you, his burst has gone up a ton (3k crits some of the time), he is still able to burst me when he is dismantled and he has a 12 second bubble, which makes it hell for me because I can't use most of my cooldowns before the bubble. Idiot
That's because Rogues are shit and Retribution is the anti-rogue. Look at Eye for an Eye and Retribution Aura, and especially Divine Purpose with Blessing of Freedom.
AMS/Z makes all magic damage do nothing, lots of parry makes melee attacks hit less, plate armor makes all physical damage do less, they still have a lot of burst, a lot of overall DPS, spell interrupts making healing difficult as Retribution, HoT removing abilities so Sheath of Light can be removed easily, etc.
This video is very old, and Retribution Paladins have been nerfed quite incredibly since then, not to mention there were a few damage bugs with Paladins at this point.
By "quite incredibly" you mean a little bit. Ret DPS is still overpowered because the do mage dps and wear plate, not to mention have bubble... they just recieved an isntant aoe attack, and it SHOULD share a cooldown with crusader strike like the shaman shocks... that would even their damage out given the recent buffs to retribution aura.
That's like saying Shamans should have Lightning Bolt, Chain Lightning, all their Shocks, and any other damaging spell (especially the ones you have to spec for) on a shared cooldown.
Crusader Strike, Divine Storm and Judgement are a huge portion of our damage, and if they were on shared cooldowns, our DPS would drop tremendously.
The equivalent to a Shaman's Shocks for a Paladin is their 3 Judgements, if you want to look at it that way.
whoa. about the cooldown. dont forget that (assuming were speaking ret here) paladins do physical damage mitigated by armor and have to be in close range. when DS was holy it way OP since it was pretty much an instant spell. they made it physical now (a cheap copy of whirl wind -.- but more dps xD). u wanna compare ret and shammies, fine. but compare ret to enhancement shams since they are similar
love this arena because u can better play with melees (not so much range between teams). And the new Death&Decay animation look pretty much better then thatone, which had some hads grabbing after you :)
Best pvp paladin in the world is Orgrimmar eonar server.
DARKSTAR13SPENCER 2 years ago
Really annoying when you think about all the ret palas being so bad in BC and classic now that they compete with all other classes everyone cries
JohanAtheist 2 years ago
Dude ur gear if fuckd up Repair it :P
TheBringerOfFear 2 years ago
lol ur highest crit is my lvl 70 pally's crusader strike at 3.2.0
Bhaveshmodern 2 years ago
you have probably never heard of resilience?
benaasi 2 years ago 2
that arene looks like a arena shall look like ogrimmar has the coolest arena
CJ1209 2 years ago
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For the HORDE!
gerillamotherf 2 years ago
lol i hate the wow sound xD
PafelThereal 2 years ago
ya know what it dosent matter what class you are someone will alway QQ about how op they are and the only reson they are op to that one person is because they dont have any skill and always get pwned by that class.
jeff21094 2 years ago
timeeeeeee for a faceroll!!!!
lol i have a 2s team with a ret pally... im like.. you ever get bored of facerolling? and he said no, but it does hurt your nose
i laughed so hard
NoRtHoVeR32 2 years ago
Dwarf=win.
vGRIMMv 2 years ago
Funny how everybody QQ's bout ret pallys now. But back in BC when we were LOLRET nobody cried. Now that they can compete with all the OP class *cough* Rogues, *cough* Mages, all you hear is people complain. OH NOES! The ret pally wtf pawned me! Blizz nerf nerf them plz! Just shut the hell up and live with it. Maybe even take time out to try and learn how to beat a ret pally now that they don't just lay down and die for you. Its called plotting lil bit of strategy and having a lil bit of skill.
Darkangeles 2 years ago 2
ummmmm lol, ret palas have always been op, well shammies were more pre TBC but in BC they were op, crusader strike judgment of light, heal! ohes noes only 1/4 of my hp left!!!! better bubble and heal!, dont tell me they werent op
WoWSandrake 2 years ago
so your saying,,,, every paladin has skill?
Rendius 2 years ago
Pally PVP tips plz :)
Cwal90210 2 years ago
what kind of pally? prot holly? or ret?
kalekrug 2 years ago
read the title
GnomePuntingftw 2 years ago
...............
iluvluckystar 2 years ago
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Step 1) Stun
Step 2) Rollface
Step 3) Win
iymovies93 2 years ago
lol u must be noob or something?in arena almost everyone has pvp trinket or something to make u free from stuns,aint tht easy
zsterpin 2 years ago
Oh im sorry, theres some movement involved then.
iymovies93 2 years ago
1: Make Stun #1 Crusader strike #2 Divine Storm #3 Judgement of anything #4 and go 1,2,3,4,2,3,4,2,3,4,2,3,4 and then roll your face on the keyboard and hit 2200
LilDCBull 2 years ago
lmfao!
tang347 2 years ago
I play a holyadin retadin and protadin. I have 2500 2s running ret ret. so faceroll I love the people who gave me thumbs down. such retards. I am not QQ'ing but it's sooo true
LilDCBull 2 years ago
lol..i just have a lvl 70 ret pally lol..but that comment u left below was hillarious
tang347 2 years ago
I know. but even at 70 you know. it's so true. it's really freaking gay. I laugh at retadins. PATCH TODAY ZOMG YAY :D
LilDCBull 2 years ago
That druid wasn't too smart. He should have healed when the Paladin was bubbled and healing aswell.
campincarl345 2 years ago 2
nice 1
ZatanAndHesTeam 3 years ago
use hand of freedom in the begin
lavrijse 3 years ago
my pet got stuck under the fucking elevator 1 time -.-
madmikelo 3 years ago
Wow that druid sucked like majorly. no spot heals, no trinket.
Zieg86 3 years ago
ok i play ret with my frost mage buddy and we do 9-1 avrage unless we face a team with DK only DK combo we have been able to bea is DK/Rogue how the hell do you kill them??
weredracolith 3 years ago
i seemed to have a similar problem with dk, rogue because they cant be beaten in an endurance fight, best way me and my partner beat them was to bury the rogue first and keep the dk constantly slowed down, frozen, stunned and we took out his pet first
never try to nuke an unholy dk first cause his bone shield with frost pressence will make you do 0 dmg
rougeownsyou 3 years ago
I play a warlock a nd druid! Warlock 75 and druid is 72! I got to say that the Dks are the most OP class at the moment! They have too many tools, too much dps and they have plate!
Reaper7738 3 years ago
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Ret pala takes no skill is looking for a few good men!
Oriztomakilaz123 3 years ago
It kind of does, it takes the right timing to actually rape somebody.
that and u gotta use ur spells wisely
PyroeFTW 3 years ago
dude ..you are good../cheer for the paly
Pico310892 3 years ago
lol I love people argue
AngryJoint 3 years ago
unholy Death knight how did he make that lol and how do u know what spec he is u cant make a death knight untill WoTLK comes...
mikkizorr 3 years ago
First, I was able to make a Death Knight because I was in the beta.
The Death Knight I fought was obviously Unholy with Bone Shield.
KanaruWOTLKBeta 3 years ago
I dont see why nerf pally over the few weeks its been on pally has been taking there revenge back.Before ret pallys took a lot of shit
Warlock2Hater 3 years ago
fukin bm hunter and ret pally for 2's is easy sauce. the burst dps from the ret pally and constant from the hunter is guuuuuuhhhhhayyyyyyy...
leagalizeit69 3 years ago
too bad ret pally is going to get nerfed, everyone knows it, even 70 paladins on my server say there was never a chance of it following through in lich king
baller6262 3 years ago
Already nerfed, several times, consecutively.
We are receiving PvP compensation, however, likely as the 11 pt Prot talent, and hopefully before the end of beta so I can test it out.
And I know I haven't been making many videos lately; frankly, nothing interesting has happened, except for a crappy Naxx run I did which was so bad I decided to delete the videos.
If there are no more updates, assuming I'm at home and awake for it, I will record the finale for the beta event.
KanaruWOTLKBeta 3 years ago
correction we are nerfed... we still kick ass
wardancer400 3 years ago
Have you fought a Warlock, Hunter, or Mage that doesn't suck in PvP at 80?
KanaruWOTLKBeta 3 years ago
and i havent played on 80... but i win on lvl 70 from locks and hunters not mages tough
wardancer400 3 years ago
was that death knight?
loopper9 3 years ago
I can still beat rets, but now it's extremely hard and no mistakes can be made, while the ret is still allowed to make mistakes and win because of the amazing burst and anti stunlock abilities. The mana regeneration is also amazing, but it's getting nerfed in 3.03.
NXiDont 3 years ago
Burst is not amazing, it's similar if not less than other classes. Our mana regeneration is extremely horrible now. In PvP, I don't know how you can do anything but DPS. Against mana burners, I don't see how you can do anything. Retribution cannot stunlock.
KanaruWOTLKBeta 3 years ago
Rofl mana burners. That stuff doesn't work now because you can regenerate 100% of your mana in 10 seconds. It's a good thing blizzard is nerfing it in 3.03. Maybe you specced like a retard and didn't pick up judgement of the wise. At 80, with the right talents, HoJ is a 20 second cooldown. You're doing something terribly wrong if you are getting outbursted by anything except a mutilate rogue, which has nearly no mobility. You have ranged gouge, judgement of justice, and Hand of Freedom.
NXiDont 3 years ago
Uh, no it doesn't, it only returns 15% base mana, which is actually a net gain of 10% base mana because Judgements cost 5% base mana.
Stop playing on live, play a Paladin, then speak. Til then, shut up because you don't know what you're talking about. I wouldn't defend an overpowered class.
Just to let you know that I play every class at, near, or above 70 besides a Druid and Warlock.
KanaruWOTLKBeta 3 years ago
are u using a set of armor or just random armor?
Zalcon88 3 years ago
I have mostly Season 3 gear and some Northrend stuff I picked up.
KanaruWOTLKBeta 3 years ago
Blizz has forsaken warriors.. All they wants warriors to do is tanking or jumping with 2x 2h weaps.
Waroler 3 years ago
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LOL
NERF RETARDIN !!!
danielcatata 3 years ago
oo, an unholy Death Knight haha, the look funny in goul form XD but one question, when they die and become an ghoul, will that mean they are undead and able to be feared with Turn Evil (i'm a holy paladin and am gonna make an unholy DK...talk about bein on both ends of the spectrum)
Kamakazi025 3 years ago
that was uber!
thatsnotreal94 3 years ago
lol damn they get smoked.
So whats your opinion mate, is ret op'ed? or not
KyuubiMozen 3 years ago
i got a ret from the patch today
i think they are wellbalanced actually
the only thing that is OP is how rets can heal 5 man outlands trash mobs with the new talents
thats a bit OP
my hardest fights are against arms warrs
they do charge and bladestorm
that kills almost anyone
weroberts8 3 years ago
They're not any more overpowered then warlocks rogues or druids use too be.
Razluclur 3 years ago
hell yes they are
NXiDont 3 years ago
No they're not.
Especially with the most recent changes.
I don't think you guys play beta.
KanaruWOTLKBeta 3 years ago
Yes they are overpowered. Yes I do play the beta. I play as a S4 geared rogue and am in a guild called BRUTL GLAD KILLRS. I have specced mutilate and shadow dance. I was dueling someone who was my partner in 2s in Season 3(ShS Rogue + Ret paladin). I can tell you, his burst has gone up a ton (3k crits some of the time), he is still able to burst me when he is dismantled and he has a 12 second bubble, which makes it hell for me because I can't use most of my cooldowns before the bubble. Idiot
NXiDont 3 years ago
That's because Rogues are shit and Retribution is the anti-rogue. Look at Eye for an Eye and Retribution Aura, and especially Divine Purpose with Blessing of Freedom.
KanaruWOTLKBeta 3 years ago
Yes rets currently counter everything. Your skill did not suddenly go up.
NXiDont 3 years ago
except mages
NXiDont 3 years ago
What in the hell are you talking about?
There is no way in hell you play beta. Retribution is not this way at 80 with 80 gear, especially after the recent nerfs.
Next retarded comment you make and I'm blocking you and deleting your persistent comments.
KanaruWOTLKBeta 3 years ago
Death Knights counter everything, by the way. Tell me one class that counters them.
KanaruWOTLKBeta 3 years ago
pally
wardancer400 3 years ago
Not really...
AMS/Z makes all magic damage do nothing, lots of parry makes melee attacks hit less, plate armor makes all physical damage do less, they still have a lot of burst, a lot of overall DPS, spell interrupts making healing difficult as Retribution, HoT removing abilities so Sheath of Light can be removed easily, etc.
KanaruWOTLKBeta 3 years ago
but you killed it.. and what i read makes it sound that its impossible to kill :p
still nice tough
wardancer400 3 years ago
This video is very old, and Retribution Paladins have been nerfed quite incredibly since then, not to mention there were a few damage bugs with Paladins at this point.
KanaruWOTLKBeta 3 years ago
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By "quite incredibly" you mean a little bit. Ret DPS is still overpowered because the do mage dps and wear plate, not to mention have bubble... they just recieved an isntant aoe attack, and it SHOULD share a cooldown with crusader strike like the shaman shocks... that would even their damage out given the recent buffs to retribution aura.
Goatmaniso 3 years ago
I am purely certain you haven't played PvP at 80.
Especially in arenas.
Paladins are actually quite underpowered because they lack tools, and have similar if not less burst than a Warrior of equal gear.
KanaruWOTLKBeta 3 years ago
@KanaruWOTLKBeta LOL WAT? i hope this was b4 beta release because damn what a scrub comment
akfool49 1 year ago
Goatmaniso thats a retarded idea
if your know anything about wow realise that shamans dont spec to get there shocks which is why you have a global cd
where as pally have to spec for crusader strike and divine storm
rougeownsyou 3 years ago
He isn't talking about the global cooldown. He is talking about the shock CD's.
The CD shared by shocks evens out shamans burst fairly well, and the same should be done with pallies.
tharpoon 3 years ago
That's like saying Shamans should have Lightning Bolt, Chain Lightning, all their Shocks, and any other damaging spell (especially the ones you have to spec for) on a shared cooldown.
Crusader Strike, Divine Storm and Judgement are a huge portion of our damage, and if they were on shared cooldowns, our DPS would drop tremendously.
The equivalent to a Shaman's Shocks for a Paladin is their 3 Judgements, if you want to look at it that way.
KanaruWOTLKBeta 3 years ago
Please do not put a shaman in the same sentence as a paladin because they are on two completely different levels.
Shamans are at the bottom of PvP and Paladins are at the top. Comparing them to something similar is like comparing an aircraft to a carrot.
bladerocker 3 years ago
Holy Paladins are on top, yes. Not Retribution.
KanaruWOTLKBeta 3 years ago
you know how hard it is to kill a resto shammy ? yeah were not on bottom
MJMpictures 3 years ago
@bladerocker shammy are not bottom, and ret sucks arse anyway
TriggerHappyGamiing 1 year ago
whoa. about the cooldown. dont forget that (assuming were speaking ret here) paladins do physical damage mitigated by armor and have to be in close range. when DS was holy it way OP since it was pretty much an instant spell. they made it physical now (a cheap copy of whirl wind -.- but more dps xD). u wanna compare ret and shammies, fine. but compare ret to enhancement shams since they are similar
okodi 3 years ago 3
Frost mage that isn't retarded counters DK. If you disagree you have absolutely no clue what you're talking about. The end.
ilobez 3 years ago
ahhh, its so nice to see a boomkin get owned XD
jaxcollins23 3 years ago 2
no :[
myth1c 3 years ago
*edit* the boomkin getting owned thing.. i luv my boomchicken :]
myth1c 3 years ago
We prefer the term lazur turkey
Trace284 3 years ago
OMG THAT WAS HAWT
Ranma1224 3 years ago 6
hey since its beta that mean that theres no seperate pvp gear yet?
craigishot 3 years ago
There is separate PvP gear. However, I'm only level 74, so the PvP gear I have is from 70. There's plenty of new gear at 80.
KanaruWOTLKBeta 3 years ago
k thanks [= ima big fan of good pvpers[x
craigishot 3 years ago 2
that start is epic, like bein in the movie Gladiator in the collosseum!
not good for my mage tho :(
gotmilkyes1d0 3 years ago 7
love this arena because u can better play with melees (not so much range between teams). And the new Death&Decay animation look pretty much better then thatone, which had some hads grabbing after you :)
MaxXximumVoltage 3 years ago 2
The hand grabbing, and what you see in this video, is Desecration, not Death and Decay. :p
KanaruWOTLKBeta 3 years ago
At least, if I'm mistaken, you may slap me through the internetz.
KanaruWOTLKBeta 3 years ago
nice video man thanks for some PVP woo!
gulius112 3 years ago 3
u is awesome
brunesgoth 3 years ago 2